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I'll be co-driving the M Coupe again on Sunday.
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I plan on heading out there to take photos.

Weather is supposed to be ungodly hot. Ugh.
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I haven't talked to you in years, Brian. It will be nice to see you again. If I don't see you first, please hunt me down in the borrowed black M Coupe (heat 2 #32).

And yes, it looks like it's going to be hot as balls out there on Sunday. Hopefully the humidity level stays somewhat low.
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We'll be there Saturday and Sunday. I hope I live through the weekend.
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I haven't talked to you in years, Brian. It will be nice to see you again. If I don't see you first, please hunt me down in the borrowed black M Coupe (heat 2 #32).

And yes, it looks like it's going to be hot as balls out there on Sunday. Hopefully the humidity level stays somewhat low.
Yeah, I'll track you down. And of course, try to get some driving shots.

If anyone else wants to come say hey, I'll be one of the goons with a camera.
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Didn't get registered in time, and I have a metric crapton of stuff to get done this weekend.

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LOVED the course today! I had such a blast trying to figure it out. I think I took the wrong way through the slalom (left and left) but it was still a blast. I loved figuring out the Si too, although there wasn't much to figure out. Boatloads of understeer into the corner, give it a tap on the brakes to get the rear end to rotate, mash the gas. I was pathetically slow (I think I ran in the 65's) but I'm not shooting for wins so it's all good.
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Dammit!!!

We will battle it out next event Ryan.

How was attendance with the heat?
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LOVED the course today! I had such a blast trying to figure it out. I think I took the wrong way through the slalom (left and left) but it was still a blast. I loved figuring out the Si too, although there wasn't much to figure out. Boatloads of understeer into the corner, give it a tap on the brakes to get the rear end to rotate, mash the gas. I was pathetically slow (I think I ran in the 65's) but I'm not shooting for wins so it's all good.
There were lots of be-patient late-apex elements of this course. It looked like it was going to suck while walking it, but it didn't turn out that bad at all. I think my best was 60.7 in the M Coupe. I ran a 60.3 but someone called in a cone. My co-driver (owner of the car) never saw anyone picking up cones during my run, so we're a bit confused on that one. I was trying hard for a 59.xx in the last run but got too loose in the 2nd slalom. I was going left/right in the slalom. If you went left in the 2nd slalom, the initial thought is that it sets you up nicely for the last sweeper but the tradeoff of adding all that distance wasn't worth it.
Edit: Besides, you could only go so fast through that last sweeper and coming out left still enabled you to carry plenty speed through there.

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We will battle it out next event Ryan.

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I thought the turnout was still pretty good. I would guestimate at least 70 drivers. Hopefully the results will be up tonight. I want to see how I did in the street tire class. If that 60.3 would have gotten me the win, it will be even more frustrating.

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The turnout was absolutely fantastic I thought!

Mike: The way they released cars played a bit of havoc out on the course IMO. If you worked in corners 1 or 5 it basically meant that you had to watch two cars at nearly the same time in areas where cone hits were rather common. Actually, there wasn't an area of the course where cone hits weren't common now that I think about it. I can see how cone calls would have been messed up between cars unfortunately. I kind of figured that was going to be the case so I made sure to watch the corner 1 area as well as the first hairpin in corner 5 (the area I was captain of) to make sure there was a zero percent chance of it happening in our area.

I can find time in my videos I took of my runs (at least a second), but I can't find 5 seconds. Absolutely no way. I was just blown away at those getting into the low 60's on street tires. You were fantastic out there Mike!

(Side note: I really wanted to come up and say hello, but helping my wife in the first heat, going in the second, and then working the third made it pretty much impossible to leave the grid.)

You're absolutely right about patience. I learned that rather quickly on my first run when I plowed half the course and damn near went into the grass at another point. Run two I still was having trouble with corner entry and exit. Run three I finally convinced myself to go the slow is fast route and immediately improved by a second or two. I think my last run I picked up another tenth or two but that was a battle.
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How was attendance with the heat?
Shit man, I'm out-classed against your car.
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Shit man, I'm out-classed against your car.
2 liter versus 2 liter.
street tires versus street tires
LSD versus LSD.
Ham fisted noob versus returning veteran.

Don't worry about that pesky weight difference.



Was this your first event with the Si? I feel so out of the loop.

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Ham fisted noob versus returning veteran.

Don't worry about that pesky weight difference.



Was this your first event with the Si? I feel so out of the loop.

ROFL, trust me I'm not a veteran.

Yes, this was event #1 in the Si. I'm *hoping* but the next it'll have an HFP suspension on it, a rear sway, and a Hondata reflash so I don't have to worry about revlimiter as much.

There needs to be another test and tune. I'm itching to drive your car again. It was just too much freaking fun!
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Returning ham fisted noob then?

Were you actually bouncing it off the limiter?

Rear sway bar at the very least. Doooo eettttt.

How did the wifey do? Is she still enjoying the mayhem?

Lol! If I stay all day next time and there are fun runs, you are more than welcome to take the turd out for a a few laps.

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The turnout was absolutely fantastic I thought!

Mike: The way they released cars played a bit of havoc out on the course IMO. If you worked in corners 1 or 5 it basically meant that you had to watch two cars at nearly the same time in areas where cone hits were rather common. Actually, there wasn't an area of the course where cone hits weren't common now that I think about it. I can see how cone calls would have been messed up between cars unfortunately. I kind of figured that was going to be the case so I made sure to watch the corner 1 area as well as the first hairpin in corner 5 (the area I was captain of) to make sure there was a zero percent chance of it happening in our area.

I can find time in my videos I took of my runs (at least a second), but I can't find 5 seconds. Absolutely no way. I was just blown away at those getting into the low 60's on street tires. You were fantastic out there Mike!

(Side note: I really wanted to come up and say hello, but helping my wife in the first heat, going in the second, and then working the third made it pretty much impossible to leave the grid.)

You're absolutely right about patience. I learned that rather quickly on my first run when I plowed half the course and damn near went into the grass at another point. Run two I still was having trouble with corner entry and exit. Run three I finally convinced myself to go the slow is fast route and immediately improved by a second or two. I think my last run I picked up another tenth or two but that was a battle.
Go slower to go faster is probably the toughest thing to learn at these events, especially at the MCC PDC where the courses usually have tight spots.

Thanks for the compliment! Christian installed a set of Koni singles and Dunlop Star Specs and that has really improved the car. The results are out if you didn't notice...

http://mokanmotorsports.com/forums/v...751476541c4b81

108 drivers is a hell of a turnout for how insanely hot it was.
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Returning ham fisted noob then?

Were you actually bouncing it off the limiter?

Rear sway bar at the very least. Doooo eettttt.

How did the wifey do? Is she still enjoying the mayhem?

Lol! If I stay all day next time and there are fun runs, you are more than welcome to take the turd out for a a few laps.

Oh yeah. Second gear tops out at 58mph in the Si. I hit it in 3 different areas of the course.

I need a front camber kit too. I can deal with the -1.5 in back, but 0 up front sucks dick. Rear sways really wake these cars up so it's definitely happening.

Wifey did good. She loves doing it. Her problem is she has never driven cars in anger before so she doesn't like flooring it and doesn't like slamming on the brakes. She also doesn't know about racing lines, and can't really feel out what a car is doing so she struggles there as well. You know, just a few things.

I've got her playing GT5 now just so she can learn about racing lines and learning how to approach a corner as well as leave it with brakes/gas. It won't magically make her an amazing driver, but I think it'll help her out quite a bit in terms of understanding why she's being told to enter here, brake there, gas here, etc.
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I am brand new to this but I will be attending the solo school on the 8th of June. I am SUPER excited about it. I am really curious what to expect and how to prepare and what all I need to bring. I also have a bunch of questions about my car and gear. I'm driving a 74 MGB GT. I have been working on the car for a while and I think its ready to toss around the course. Cant wait! here is my car
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This thread revival confused me. I was asked to instruct June 8th but told him I couldn't make it, and then saw that I posted in this thread that I was going. Then realized it was a year old.

Jon, you will have a blast at the school. Lots of seat time, and lots of great instruction for a low price (compared to the pricey national schools). Your car will need to pass a safety inspection. The most common failure item that I've seen is a battery that isn't secured properly, so make sure you have that secured well. They will also check to ensure your throttle isn't sticky, brake pedal feels ok, and no wheel movement (good wheel bearings). Do you have a helmet? If it's Snell M2000 or newer, bring it. It must have the Snell label behind the inside flap. Sometimes it's hard to find. Besides the inspection, upon arrival, you'll also need to stop by the registration trailer (do this first) and will also walk the course. I imagine since it's a school, you'll go on a guided coursewalk. There are plenty people that will help you with what to do, so feel free to ask someone.

Have you found your way to the autox discussion boards? Check out http://mokanmotorsports.com/forums/ . I won't be there unfortunately, but have fun!
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