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Default The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President

I found this to be an extremely interesting read this weekend. Way to much to copy paste, so you're going to have to click for yourself.

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One day last fall, I sat down to create a new Facebook account. I picked a forgettable name, snapped a profile pic with my face obscured, and clicked “Like” on the official pages of Donald Trump and his reelection campaign. Facebook’s algorithm prodded me to follow Ann Coulter, Fox Business, and a variety of fan pages with names like “In Trump We Trust.” I complied. I also gave my cellphone number to the Trump campaign, and joined a handful of private Facebook groups for MAGA diehards, one of which required an application that seemed designed to screen out interlopers.
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That article is insane.

I had no idea political ads were heavily spun to put some candidates in a positive light and their competition in a negative light.


Sometimes even at the same time.

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Sort of like the Billion Dollar Disinformation campaign to elect a Democrat Candidate for president.

Some of them are even being self funded by Multi Billionaires running for President.
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Sort of like the Billion Dollar Disinformation campaign to elect a Democrat Candidate for president.



Some of them are even being self funded by Multi Billionaires running for President.
This statement shows you've missed the entire point of the article. My guess is it had too many words for you.

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My guess is he didnt even read it just like he doesnt actually read anything that might go against what he already believes because a fact might pop up that he cant unsee or explain away and his fragile worldview could irreparably be damaged.
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Needs to funnnel some of that money to get someone to help him apply his bronzer (and maybe pick a color that doesnt make him look orange).

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That article is insane.

I had no idea political ads were heavily spun to put some candidates in a positive light and their competition in a negative light.


Sometimes even at the same time.

Oblique will never believe this.
If you read the whole article, it goes well beyond those bounds though.
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If you read the whole article, it goes well beyond those bounds though.

Both sides are spreading false information at an incredible rate. I ran across a post from an educated friend that I normally find to be intelligent and reasonable. The quote she posted was Trump saying "I've done more for Christians than Jesus", and then she and her friends started going on about how he just needs to go.

It takes 1min to fact check information before posting it, and most don't care to do that these days. It's all about getting the desired outcome, and I understand how they feel because the democrats controlling things scares the heck out of me to the point that I still support Trump.
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Both sides are spreading false information at an incredible rate. I ran across a post from an educated friend that I normally find to be intelligent and reasonable. The quote she posted was Trump saying "I've done more for Christians than Jesus", and then she and her friends started going on about how he just needs to go.

It takes 1min to fact check information before posting it, and most don't care to do that these days. It's all about getting the desired outcome, and I understand how they feel because the democrats controlling things scares the heck out of me to the point that I still support Trump.
Although that could be excused since that is quite on message since he always talks in absoloutes that are complete bullshit like the "landslide victory," his inauguration crowd, his "best economy in history, hurricane dorian, etc.

When he has a history of making stupid ass statements that sound like quotes from "The Onion" I could see people falling for satire easily.
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Both sides are spreading false information at an incredible rate. I ran across a post from an educated friend that I normally find to be intelligent and reasonable. The quote she posted was Trump saying "I've done more for Christians than Jesus", and then she and her friends started going on about how he just needs to go.

It takes 1min to fact check information before posting it, and most don't care to do that these days. It's all about getting the desired outcome, and I understand how they feel because the democrats controlling things scares the heck out of me to the point that I still support Trump.
Sounds like the same thing to me.
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This statement shows you've missed the entire point of the article. My guess is it had too many words for you.

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Read the whole article, still looks the same to me, typical campaign BS.
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I'm so excited about Bernie surging on the left. If Bernie wins and ends up running against Trump, we win!! We keep the Senate, gain seats in the house (at a minimum...if not take it back over), and Trump gets to KAG.


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And if Bernie wins, we'll get to see you all turn into the sore losing crybabies you accuse everyone else of being. The rigged election talks and claims of illegals voting will be off the charts as you all rush to explain why you lost.
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And if Bernie wins, we'll get to see you all turn into the sore losing crybabies you accuse everyone else of being. The rigged election talks and claims of illegals voting will be off the charts as you all rush to explain why you lost.

IlL mOve To cAnAdA!!!
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And if Bernie wins, we'll get to see you all turn into the sore losing crybabies you accuse everyone else of being. The rigged election talks and claims of illegals voting will be off the charts as you all rush to explain why you lost.
It’s amazing how you, like, predict the future and stuff.

Let me try.

The sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

The sun will set in the west.
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It’s amazing how you, like, predict the future and stuff.

Let me try.

The sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

The sun will set in the west.
I know you think this is some sort of witty awesome comeback, but lest we not forget, the sun rose and set all the same over Nazi concentration camps.

Make no mistake, I'm not attempting to equate these situations. But you can't help but think that many Germans and Jews probably felt the same as you in the run-up to the Holocaust.

What's the saying? “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
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I know you think this is some sort of witty awesome comeback, but lest we not forget, the sun rose and set all the same over Nazi concentration camps.

Make no mistake, I'm not attempting to equate these situations. But you can't help but think that many Germans and Jews probably felt the same as you in the run-up to the Holocaust.

What's the saying? “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”


Man.... I can't even take you seriously with moronic responses like that.


Get help.
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You can chew on this too.


Record voter turnout for an incumbent in NH.
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What's the saying? “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
That's why we have Trump, to keep the Fascist left at bay.
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That's why we have Trump, to keep the Fascist left at bay.
You do realize Trump has been on record praising authoritarians and dictators a shocking number of times, right?
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As opposed to the Dems who have praised authoritarians and dictators.

You do realize it was the Dems who were the original KKK, and those who opposed freeing the slaves.

They are also the ones who propose socialism and socialist policies. You know, just like the Soviet Union who killed people by the millions. Just like the German National Socialist party (NAZI).

The Dems are the Anti Semites in Congress.

FDR was the one who interned the Japanese during WW2.
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It’s amazing how you, like, predict the future and stuff.

Let me try.

The sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

The sun will set in the west.
I honestly don't understand the point of you constantly repeating this, which I can only guess is meant to be an insult to me. But according to the way analogies work, what your "insult" is implying is that the things I'm predicting are so blatantly obvious that it'd be like saying the sun is going to rise again tomorrow. Which within the context of the situation that caused you to start saying this little line over and over (and the one you're using it in now), it would actually just be an insult to you and your intelligence. Which is pretty fitting and hilarious actually.

It's just simple pattern recognition and recognizing those with a pathology that causes them to uncontrollably worship a cult leader will always do whatever it takes to defend him and will always follow his lead like the mindless drones they are. Their behavior is so predictable you can set your watch by it. No need for psychic abilities, you just need to have a functioning mind that isn't clouded by an orange dick in your mouth and your asshole simultaneously 24/7 like a spitroasted pig.

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On January 23, 2017, his first full day of work as president, Donald Trump hosted leaders of Congress at the White House. The expectation was that he would use the occasion, as previous presidents had, to lay out his policy agenda and jump-start his administration. But instead of focusing on his legislative priorities, the president launched into a diatribe about the race he’d just won, claiming without a shred of evidence that 3 million to 5 million illegal votes had been cast.

The lawmakers, not yet accustomed to the peculiar illogic of this White House, were still capable of being shocked. Maybe they shouldn’t have been surprised. During the 2016 campaign, perhaps assuming he would lose, Trump had insisted that the coming vote was “rigged.” (In a presidential debate, he refused to say he’d accept the results of the election if he lost to Hillary Clinton.) Winning didn’t dampen his conspiracy theorizing; he just transformed into the ultimate sore winner. Weeks after he won the election, Trump tweeted that the media were ignoring serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire, and California. (The media were indeed “ignoring” his claims—because there was no evidence for them.)

Continuing to make these assertions as his presidency got under way, in May 2017 Trump established a voter-fraud task force, installing as its de facto leader Kris Kobach, then the secretary of state of Kansas, who had long crusaded for more restrictive voting laws, citing widespread fraud he couldn’t prove. Trump disbanded the task force in January 2018, continuing to claim fraud but producing no evidence.

The initial spark for Trump’s claims seems to have been his insecurity about the fact that, although he won the Electoral College, he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. He has worked hard to sow doubt about that result. But questioning the legitimacy of elections serves his political goals as well. Claims of noncitizen voting complement Trump’s calls for stricter immigration enforcement. And even though overwhelming evidence shows that in-person voter fraud is extremely rare, Republicans across the country have spent years calling for harsher voting laws, which make it disproportionately harder for Democratic constituencies to vote (Trump’s electoral strategy hinges on maximizing white turnout and depressing minority votes.)

But no other mainstream GOP figure has been so willing to make the brazen claims Trump has about the integrity of American elections generally, or about the democratic process itself. Better to risk weakening the whole electoral system, the president seems to believe, than to concede that Hillary Clinton got more votes than he did in 2016; better to do all he can to stoke fears about immigration and fraudulent voting than to worry fussily about corroding the legitimacy of our political institutions.

Distance from the 2016 election has not quieted the president on these issues: As vote counting finished in 2018, he again declared that elections were being stolen. If Trump loses the 2020 presidential election, no one should any longer be surprised when he declares that the result is not valid, further shredding the political fabric he’s spent the past few years tearing.
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I honestly don't understand the point of you constantly repeating this, which I can only guess is meant to be an insult to me. But according to the way analogies work, what your "insult" is implying is that the things I'm predicting are so blatantly obvious that it'd be like saying the sun is going to rise again tomorrow. Which within the context of the situation that caused you to start saying this little line over and over (and the one you're using it in now), it would actually just be an insult to you and your intelligence. Which is pretty fitting and hilarious actually.

It's just simple pattern recognition and recognizing those with a pathology that causes them to uncontrollably worship a cult leader will always do whatever it takes to defend him and will always follow his lead like the mindless drones they are. Their behavior is so predictable you can set your watch by it. No need for psychic abilities, you just need to have a functioning mind that isn't clouded by an orange dick in your mouth and your asshole simultaneously 24/7 like a spitroasted pig.
I'm not sure if you've been following my posts, but I have called out exactly what was going to happen every single day. Much, much more specific than anything you've predicted.
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I know you think this is some sort of witty awesome comeback, but lest we not forget, the sun rose and set all the same over Nazi concentration camps.

Make no mistake, I'm not attempting to equate these situations. But you can't help but think that many Germans and Jews probably felt the same as you in the run-up to the Holocaust.

What's the saying? “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
No, I'm reading tea leaves and stars now.

I am simply predicting the future.
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And here I thought Mild was actually somewhat rational and not as morally bankrupt as all the others. Thats what I get for my little glimmer of naive optimism that has me deep down hoping I've been completely wrong about Trump, his supporters and where this country is going. You really find out who people are though when the chips are down. Should have known a (now former) buddy of mine who would admit Trump was a disaster but would always make excuses for him was a total psychopathic lying piece of shit. Supporting and/or excusing Trumps action directly represents that person's feelings about being held accountable for their own behavior which means they also will make any excuse they have to to justify the fucked up shit that they do, just like every other narcissist.
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