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Had some dude and his buddy rev'ing at me at a light, which I ignored, then I heard him romp on the gas and his tires breaking once the light turned green so I let him have it. I think I had about 3 bus lengths on him before I hit 100 and looked to see where he was at. Then he cut across multiple lanes and jumped on the highway to avoid me at the next light. Rather disappointing coming from a newer BMW M3. If you're on here, and you got smoked by a Go Green Challenger, no hard feelings.
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BMWs are over-hyped shitboxes.



Supradriver ducked me like a little bitch for months, and then waited for me to post up a road cruise event I was attending instead of reporting to the literal dozens and dozens of posts about meet-ups where I was on tire and set to kill.

I guess that's what you have to do when you race a BMW.


I'd say good kill, but it's really child's play
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Yea it wasn't even close at all. He may as well have been driving a Kia.
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Mods on the challenger?
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Intake and exhaust. Headers are next. I just got it 3 weeks ago so it's nowhere near customized to my liking.
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Sounds like the M3 needs a tune and a little e85
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was it a v8 m3, or the newest one?
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was it a v8 m3, or the newest one?
It sounded like a V8 when he was reving at me.

I think the hp difference between the V8 and twin turbo is like 20hp (414 vs 425-444 per google).
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fwiw supradriver did not have a M car and the V8 M3 well is kind of a turd
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Clearly, I put a lot of distance on the guy. I think I'm in need of a ProCharger soon though. Need to step my game up a bit.
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I thought those v8 m3 were low 12 second cars?
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magazine tested : 12.7 sec @ 110.6 mph
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High 12's I believe.
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Ultimate driving machine my ass.
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Something something Nurburgring
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The 2017 SRT8 has what a 6.2Ltre V8 with 600 HP and you are bragging about beating a 414 HP car (is essentially the whole deal) it is also known that M cars are not a straight line car
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More like can't even beat a 20k cheaper Camaro around said ring
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Run what ya brung, and hope ya brung enough.
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More like can't even beat a 20k cheaper Camaro around said ring
Which Camaro? The only camaro I see on the list for the Ring is behind a BMW
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Here Is A List Of Cars That The 2017 Camaro ZL1 Beat Around The Nürburgring

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The 2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1, with 650 horsepower and 650 pound-feet of torque, just set a time of 7:29.6 on the Nürburgring. It sounds damn good, but to most people who don’t care about some random track in Germany, that’s sort of meaningless. So here’s a list of cars it just beat:

Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
Koenigsegg CCX
Ford Shelby GT350R
Porsche 911 GT2
Mercedes-AMG GT S
McLaren 650S Spider
Jaguar XJ220
Caterham R500 Superlight
Trabant

Here is a list of cars that are still faster than a Camaro:

Porsche 918
Lamborghini Aventador
Ferrari LaFerrari
Dodge Viper ACR
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
BMW M4 GTS
Radical SR8
Source: http://jalopnik.com/here-is-a-list-o...-nu-1788151856

Not that it matters; that's just a silly road with a bunch of turns and stuff. Not nearly as exciting as a straight line...
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and the V8 M3 well is kind of a turd
This. Pretty sure a bolt on 3v 4.6 is just as fast.
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Which Camaro? The only camaro I see on the list for the Ring is behind a BMW

My bad. I meant to say Laguna Seca.


I never said it would pull any BMW. M3 as mentioned above vs. SS 1LE is the Chevy all the way.....like by 5sec all the way


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2. Porsche RS Spyder (Evo) unknown 1:10.35 510 / 775
3. Acura ARX-01a unknown 1:10.91 558 / 825
4. Audi R10 TDI unknown 1:11.17 659 / 925
5. Porsche RS Spyder unknown 1:14.03 487 / 775
6. Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V) Randy Pobst 1:28.65 654 / 1541
7. Porsche 918 Spyder Randy Pobst 1:29.89 887 / 1665
8. McLaren P1 Randy Pobst 1:30.71 916 / 1490
9. Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V) unknown 1:31.58 654 / 1541
10. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7) Randy Pobst 1:33.05 659 / 1608
11. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) unknown 1:33.29 500 / 1426
12. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) Randy Pobst 1:33.29 500 / 1426
13. SRT Viper TA Randy Pobst 1:33.62 649 / 1520
14. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Randy Pobst 1:33.70 647 / 1530
15. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR Chris Winkler 1:33.92 608 / 1536
16. SRT Viper GTS Randy Pobst 1:34.23 649 / 1560
17. Audi R8 V10 Plus (Mk II) unknown 1:34.23 610 / 1631
18. Corvette Z06 Z07 Package unknown 1:34.43 512 / 1436
19. McLaren MP4-12C Randy Pobst 1:34.50 600 / 1434
20. McLaren 570S unknown 1:34.58 570 / 1462
21. SRT Viper Randy Pobst 1:34.63 649 / 1520
22. SLS AMG Black Series Randy Pobst 1:35.03 631 / 1620
23. Devon GTX unknown 1:35.07 659 / -
24. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S unknown 1:35.30 510 / 1674
25. Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 Randy Pobst 1:35.40 700 / 1721
26. Nissan GT-R Nismo (R35) Randy Pobst 1:35.51 600 / 1740
27. Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997) Johannes van Overbee 1:35.56 620 / 1385
28. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S Randy Pobst 1:35.57 510 / 1674
29. Porsche 911 Turbo S (991) Randy Pobst 1:35.62 560 / 1610
30. Ford Shelby Mustang GT350R unknown 1:36.11 - / -
31. Ferrari 458 Italia Randy Pobst 1:36.22 570 / 1497
32. Nissan GT-R (R35 530 PS) unknown 1:36.35 530 / 1736
33. Honda NSX (Mk II) unknown 1:36.36 581 / 1765
34. Lexus LFA unknown 1:36.39 560 / 1609
35. Audi R8 GT unknown 1:36.39 560 / 1550
36. Porsche 911 Carrera S unknown 1:36.44 420 / 1495
37. Nissan GT-R (R35 550 PS) Randy Pobst 1:36.63 550 / 1736
38. Porsche 911 GT3 RS unknown 1:36.77 450 / 1400
39. Nissan GT-R (R35 570PS) unknown 1:37.08 570 / 1791
40. Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) Randy Pobst 1:37.43 385 / 1340
41. BMW M4 GTS unknown 1:37.66 500 / 1599
42. Camaro SS 1LE Package unknown 1:37.78 461 / 1698
43. Porsche 911 Turbo unknown 1:37.80 500 / 1570
44. Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 Randy Pobst 1:37.82 507 / 1702
45. Ferrari F12 Berlinetta Randy Pobst 1:38.04 740 / 1699
46. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Randy Pobst 1:38.28 461 / 1577
47. Cadillac CTS-V (Mk III) Randy Pobst 1:38.52 649 / 1884
48. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 unknown 1:38.70 647 / 1530
49. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Randy Pobst 1:38.70 659 / 1750
50. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI Plus Randy Pobst 1:38.70 550 / 1570
51. Jaguar F-Type SVR unknown 1:38.75 575 / 1797
52. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG unknown 1:38.82 571 / 1670
53. C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series Randy Pobst 1:38.90 517 / 1748
54. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S (991) Randy Pobst 1:39.00 400 / 1465
55. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Randy Pobst 1:39.18 588 / 1838
56. Porsche 911 Carrera S (991) Randy Pobst 1:39.30 400 / 1415
57. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS unknown 1:39.50 443 / 1652
58. Porsche 911 GT3 (997) unknown 1:39.52 415 / 1395
59. Cadillac ATS-V Coupe Randy Pobst 1:39.65 470 / 1636
60. BMW M4 Randy Pobst 1:39.69 431 / 1545
61. Porsche 911 Turbo (997) unknown 1:39.89 480 / 1585
62. Porsche 911 Turbo S unknown 1:40.11 530 / 1585
63. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI (Mk I) unknown 1:40.20 525 / 1620
64. Nissan GT-R (R35) unknown 1:40.45 480 / 1740
65. Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG S Randy Pobst 1:40.50 510 / 1743
66. BMW M6 (F13) Randy Pobst 1:40.52 560 / 1896
67. Aston Martin AM 310 Vanquish Randy Pobst 1:40.71 573 / 1739
68. Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro (Mk I) unknown 1:40.75 420 / 1560
69. Jaguar F-Type V8 S Randy Pobst 1:40.81 495 / 1665
70. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) unknown 1:40.90 512 / 1437
71. Porsche Cayman S (981) Randy Pobst 1:41.26 325 / 1320
72. Porsche Cayman R (987) unknown 1:41.64 330 / 1320
73. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S unknown 1:41.77 573 / 1665
74. Jaguar F-Type R Coupe Randy Pobst 1:42.00 550 / 1665
75. E 63 AMG S T-Modell Randy Pobst 1:42.39 585 / -
76. Lotus Evora S unknown 1:42.49 351 / 1437
77. Jaguar XKR-S (550 PS) Randy Pobst 1:42.90 551 / 1843
78. BMW M3 (E92) unknown 1:42.96 420 / 1580
79. Audi RS5 (8T3 facelift) unknown 1:42.97 450 /
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Yeah manufacturers don't test against LS as much as the ring and even then a lot of them scoff at it now
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The cars he is comparing are also a decade apart
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And the GTS did LS faster just found the time
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