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Im looking forward to hearing about the double murder case shortly after these guys try to collect their $200 "take down fee" from a real felon instead of just DUI guys (which is all that shows up near my parents house).

Also I wonder the legality if a public record was cleared and they didnt remove it without charging a fee. Seems like they would be defaming an innocent person.
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What I find most interesting is the notification services. Canvassing a neighborhood with flyers of someone charged with a crime and thinking that an "innocent until proven guilty" disclaimer puts you on the right side of the law? This company will be hit with more than one lawsuit.

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I don't see what the big deal it about the mailing. Lawyers do it all the time. Last time I got a ticket for rolling a stop sign, I literally had 5 mailers within a week from attorneys.
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Also I wonder the legality if a public record was cleared and they didnt remove it without charging a fee. Seems like they would be defaming an innocent person.
Exactly. If I had something expunged and it was still on his site and I missed out on a job because of his site, I'd be filing a lawsuit the same day. It's not my job to call him and tell him to take it down. If you're going to search for me and post in on the web before I even go to court, you better keep your research up to date and take it down as soon as my lawyer proves I wasn't even in town at the time the crime was committed.
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The Domains by Proxy service is not a legal obligation, however, and registrant's personal information can be released in some cases, such as a legal subpoena or cease and desist[1][2], or for other reasons as deemed appropriate by DBP per its Domain Name Proxy Agreement [3] section 4, without limited requirements to notify the registrant about such disclosures (see section 5):"
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I don't see what the big deal it about the mailing. Lawyers do it all the time. Last time I got a ticket for rolling a stop sign, I literally had 5 mailers within a week from attorneys.
Did the said lawyers tell you that they pulled your public record and had it on a website for people to search and that you had to pay them $200 or they would put flyers in your neighborhood?
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this simply cant be legal... at least it shouldnt be. which makes the "purpose" of your site comically ironic. you're a criminal yourself trying to con people out of money. in my eyes what you're doing 10000000x more offensive than someone jailed for driving on a suspended license. you posing under the facade of doing the community a service makes it even more despicable. in short, you are a huge piece of shit.
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I don't see what the big deal it about the mailing. Lawyers do it all the time. Last time I got a ticket for rolling a stop sign, I literally had 5 mailers within a week from attorneys.
It's not the mailers but rather the posting of flyers about ones convictions.

Although I bet in order to make money, the mailers they send are worded in a fraudulent or deceiving way. They probably say something to the extent of "we will remove for your profile and record for $199 so it is not searchable or can be found". And leaving out or vaguely making the point that the removal is only from their site which was just copied from a public record and paying them $199+ is useless as it still can be found elsewhere, with probably more detail.
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I am not going to say if I agree or disagree with this, but if you don't break the law, then you have nothing to worry about.
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Not true. He is doing this to people arrested before any conviction takes place.
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I am not going to say if I agree or disagree with this, but if you don't break the law, then you have nothing to worry about.
People make mistakes, they learn from them, and they go through the legal channels to make sure the issue has been resolved and put it behind them.

They shouldn't then have to go out of their way to inform every person out there that it's been expunged.

That's the whole point of expunging it. You take care of it legally and it shouldn't be a problem that haunts you forever.
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Im looking forward to hearing about the double murder case shortly after these guys try to collect their $200 "take down fee" from a real felon instead of just DUI guys (which is all that shows up near my parents house).

Also I wonder the legality if a public record was cleared and they didnt remove it without charging a fee. Seems like they would be defaming an innocent person.
I was wondering this myself. If the person was proven innocent, then doesn't get a job because their employer came across the site, that could turn in to quite the lawsuit.

Like everyone else has said here, what a fuck-o.
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Did the said lawyers tell you that they pulled your public record and had it on a website for people to search and that you had to pay them $200 or they would put flyers in your neighborhood?
No, casenet takes care of that for me
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Whether I agree or not with such a business' choice of operations/practices, I will not comment; however, I would feel more comfortable with this idea if those posted on such pages were people who were convicted and their criminal cases resolved in one form or another. Posting people's mugshots and information when they are "innocent until proven guilty" is somewhat unfair. What if someone's info was posted on the site, an employer happened to see it, and the person (who was later found not guilty) misses out on a job opportunity because the site chose to publish this information before the criminal case was resolved?
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I am not going to say if I agree or disagree with this, but if you don't break the law, then you have nothing to worry about.
as Ryan pointed out, that is simply untrue. its untrue because this site requires action beyond your innocence being proven through the court system or charges being dropped.

its a shady business that is trying to monetize public shame/humiliation. like I said, this isn't illegal anymore than alot the paparazzi that are the dregs of human society because its essentially serving the same purpose while openly acknowledging that if you're willing to pay them, they will quietly "make it go away" (even though this is a lie as they are only stopping their own efforts to shame you not everyone else's)...
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Whether I agree or not with such a business' choice of operations/practices, I will not comment; however, I would feel more comfortable with this idea if those posted on such pages were people who were convicted and their criminal cases resolved in one form or another. Posting people's mugshots and information when they are "innocent until proven guilty" is somewhat unfair. What if someone's info was posted on the site, an employer happened to see it, and the person (who was later found not guilty) misses out on a job opportunity because the site chose to publish this information before the criminal case was resolved?
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Not true. He is doing this to people arrested before any conviction takes place.
I understand this, but there are things that you can do to give yourself better odds of never ending up on sites like this, and/or in jail. Except in some rare cases, you have to do something to be arrested. It can be anything from committing a crime to associated with people that do, but that is your choice.


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People make mistakes, they learn from them, and they go through the legal channels to make sure the issue has been resolved and put it behind them.

They shouldn't then have to go out of their way to inform every person out there that it's been expunged.

That's the whole point of expunging it. You take care of it legally and it shouldn't be a problem that haunts you forever.
I don't disagree with that, and it would be a PITA to deal with. It sounds like his site is not the only one that does this. I guess it is just one more thing for someone to consider before they do something illegal.
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as Ryan pointed out, that is simply untrue. its untrue because this site requires action beyond your innocence being proven through the court system or charges being dropped.

its a shady business that is trying to monetize public shame/humiliation. like I said, this isn't illegal anymore than alot the paparazzi that are the dregs of human society because its essentially serving the same purpose while openly acknowledging that if you're willing to pay them, they will quietly "make it go away" (even though this is a lie as they are only stopping their own efforts to shame you not everyone else's)...
I didn't say I agreed with the site at all, I just said that if you don't break the law, chances are you will never have to worry about being on that site.
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No, casenet takes care of that for me
but case.net doesn't offer to take down your name for $200 either. nor do they require any action on your part to update their listings with not guilties, pleaing down, etc.

I can almost guarantee that none of those lawyers threatened action on their part to publicly shame you for your alleged crimes unless you hired them. I know case.net doesn't do that.

its a whole different game when this company is trying to monetize humiliation and states (not threatens, mind you) that they will ratchet things up unless you pay them.
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Exactly. If I had something expunged and it was still on his site and I missed out on a job because of his site, I'd be filing a lawsuit the same day. It's not my job to call him and tell him to take it down. If you're going to search for me and post in on the web before I even go to court, you better keep your research up to date and take it down as soon as my lawyer proves I wasn't even in town at the time the crime was committed.
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