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Im sure this is old news, but I installed a Nest thermostat a couple months ago and am in love. So nice to be able to keep my house colder during the day but turn the heat on when I start to head home after work so it's not still 57 degrees when I get home.

We went to Florida over Christmas, we left the house at 45 and it was below zero outside the day we were coming home, so it was super convenient to be able to raise the temp from a thousand miles away so that we got home to a toasty house but didn't have to waste gas and electricity that whole week. Our bills have definitely been better, and our electric utility gave us a $100 credit for installing it.
I don't know if it is a good idea to bring the temperature down all the way to 57 degrees. I would think it would take considerably more energy to raise it to 69-70 degrees from 57, than it would to maintain it at about 62-64 and simply raising it to 69-70. I don't know how you would measure this though unless you monitor each way for a couple of months to compare, but then, you would have to be able to see if the temperature outside had any say in determining the factors.
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Also something I should throw in there for those looking at doing in-wall switches. Ive worked with 3 brands so far.

Belkin - These are OK if you dont have a home controller. They work on wifi without a hub and work with Google I Know for sure. Being said they are very limited and kind of expensive, you're better off getting a smartthings hub and going z wave if you are doing more than a couple of switches.

Leviton - These are probably the caddilac as far as functionality is concerned. Really fast response to everything, even the fastest on pressing the button (ill talk about the GE/Jasco later). But they feel like shit. If you dont use the physical switch often or just dont care about how it feels then these are the guys for you. Im OCD and old school so I still often just use the switch like the olden days so these kind of annoy me. And to be clear, this is a PREFERNCE thing. The build quality is perfectly fine, its just they allowed a lot looser tolerances in making the switch. Their dimmers work quite well and I prefer their main dimmer design because it has a row of LEDs that tell you what level you are on, etc and let you pre-set the dimmed level and just turn on to that. But the dimmer part of the button pops off if you hit it too hard on the 3-4 way companion switches ONLY (this doesnt affect the main switch. Also the companion switch trigger a status update to smartthings.

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Lutron - Hated them. Caseta technically works with outsiders but not well and their switch design was stupid (they look like they are permanently off and you hit on for off). A shame since I love my maestro classic switches. They are also the only one I found that really reliably triggers a status update quickly, apparently they hold some sort of patent

GE by Jasco - Except for ONE THING these are easily the best. The build quality is up there with Lutron, switch is tight and feels really positive. Their dimmers are excellent in function even if they dont have anything to indicate dim level. I prefer their slow-fade on and off compared to Leviton. Its a really slow fade on and off and is PERFECT for the light in your bedroom. Far less harsh waking up to it than just instant-ON.

So that one thing? There is a slight delay from hitting the physical switch to the action happening. You push the button and a few hundred milliseconds later you can hear the relay and the light goes on/off. If you can tolerate that its the way to go, it slightly annoys me but Im going to slowly convert to theirs.

Another thing is their locator light is insanely bright, so mind that if you put it in your bedroom. Being said you can cut the little plastic fiber optic piece that channels the light to the front of the switch and its much better. I wouldn't knock it because its easily fixed or isnt a problem in a room that isnt a bedroom or you arent light sensitive.

Since its Jasco and apparently Jasco was one of the early adopters you also have tons of options. Ive used the switches in 4 way applications, smart dimmers, smart outlets (to control under-cabinet lighting), outdoor plug, fan controllers, two of the plug in outlets for things like christmas tree, and I have a motion switch on the way for the garage.
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I don't know if it is a good idea to bring the temperature down all the way to 57 degrees. I would think it would take considerably more energy to raise it to 69-70 degrees from 57, than it would to maintain it at about 62-64 and simply raising it to 69-70. I don't know how you would measure this though unless you monitor each way for a couple of months to compare, but then, you would have to be able to see if the temperature outside had any say in determining the factors.
Nest creates this report that actually includes all of that information. Also the power company, at least mine, will send you a report of use and includes temps of the day, etc, for comparison.

I dont go down to 57 but I did allow it to go to 65 or up to 85 (I use the range, so I never have to select heat/cold) when away. It rarely gets to either because my place is new and I doubled the insulation in the attic. I saw a reduction on both energy cost and run time for days of similar weather.

Now I just gotta get a benifactor so I can put in the blinds, have them close when I am away but open (but at an angle to shade the sun based on time/season) when I get home.

A little background on the misconception of it costing more to heat than to maintain: https://home.howstuffworks.com/home-...n-not-home.htm
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Since the weather was nice I decided to install the Sylvania Lightify Gardens pot Mini RGB set I got at Christmas. Was easy to install (I'm definitely going to add more) and integrated right in to SmartThings.

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