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Unread 2014-10-07, 02:01 PM   #1
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Over lunch today I saw numerous people getting busted around the College Blvd. / Mission Rd. area. I guess they want to meet their quotas early this month.
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Love the quota comment. Hilarious people still think that quotas actually exist.



Came in here originally to say how much I hate driving tax traps like that but couldn't resist laughing at the quota comment.

With Kansas though I pretty much see all of joco as one big speed trap. They love that revenue from speeding tickets. Ridiculous.
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Love the quota comment. Hilarious people still think that quotas actually exist.



Came in here originally to say how much I hate driving tax traps like that but couldn't resist laughing at the quota comment.

With Kansas though I pretty much see all of joco as one big speed trap. They love that revenue from speeding tickets. Ridiculous.
I don't know anything about quotas, but it was odd when I would drive ~35 miles across the metro to work and would see speed traps from rural Missouri, through KC North, KCK, Mission, Shawnee, Lenexa and into OP. Different states, counties and cities, as well you're talking Sheriff and HP mixed in with local.

Any idea why they all choose to be out on the same day, around the same time? I just figured it was the timing, since it seemed like it was around the end of the month when I would notice it but maybe they all coordinated or something? This probably happened 2-3 times a year for the 3 years I drove that route.
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Love the quota comment. Hilarious people still think that quotas actually exist.



Came in here originally to say how much I hate driving tax traps like that but couldn't resist laughing at the quota comment.
They certainly do still exist. Earlier this year some cops in Florida said just that:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...-ticket-quotas

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Five members of the Waldo Police Department told the City Council Tuesday night they were under a quota to write traffic tickets, which is a violation of Florida law. The officers outlined a long line of grievances they had against police department command staff and city administration.
Before a packed room, Officer Brandon Roberts told commissioners they were required by Chief Mike Szabo to write 12 speeding citations per 12-hour shift or face punishment. Roberts explained his claims with the help of an electronic presentation and printed emails as evidence.

Not local, and surely just an isolated incident. Right?

I stumbled across this while reading another article about crosswalk traps, and I just couldn't resist sharing it.
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I saw one running LIDAR around 103rd & Mission, then another around Ranchmart, confirming OP's post is accurate.
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Lots of troopers on I70 west today towards topeka
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In Kansas there was a state funded aggressive driving campaign for the Thanksgiving Holiday. The enforcement goals were DUI, seat belt, and things like speeding...basically everything but equipment.
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Oh look, another example of those non-existent quotas. This one is right down the road in the St. Louis area.

http://www.kmov.com/news/investigate...292117271.html

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ST. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOV.com) -- As a Bellefontaine Neighbors officer for a decade, Joe St. Clair was ordered to carry out a policy that he says required cops to issue a certain number of traffic tickets, and even traffic arrests. If they failed to do it, they could be fired.

“I believe the chief put an illegal mandate on his officers. I think it’s unfair to the community,” St. Clair told me.
The mandate was put in writing. It requires officers to take a specific number of “self-initiated activities” each month. St. Clair gave News 4 Investigates copies of spreadsheets used by the Bellefontaine Neighbors Police Department to track those activities. It identifies seven different activities that officers are required to do. Those include writing ordinance violations, traffic arrests, uniform traffic tickets, parking violations and traffic warnings.

St. Clair had to do 50 of them every month. The spreadsheet shows that Traffic Arrests represented up to 15 percent of the required activities for Bellfontaine Neighbors cops, an equivalent of up to 8 arrests per month, and that Uniform Traffic Tickets were up to 60 percent, or about 30 tickets per month.

St. Clair was threatened with “disciplinary action” in a notification letter because he failed to meet the 50 minimum required in September 2013. In the letter, he was told “you produced only 32 activities, which is less than 70 percent of your required minimum performance standard.” If he continued to fail to meet those minimum standards, he should “expect to be replaced, disciplined, or terminated.”

Despite his concerns, after getting that letter St. Clair started writing more tickets, and from that point on, he says, he always met the minimum required standard for "self-initiated activities."

“I wasn’t comfortable doing it, but I had to do it. I have a wife and 2 children I had to support,” said St. Clair.
Police Chief Robert Pruett insisted the policy “is not a quota system.” However, he admitted during an off-camera conversation that officers have been threatened with discipline and disciplined for not meeting the minimum numbers set for them. He told me that Mayor Robert Doerr had ordered him not to give us an interview.

So, News 4's Craig Cheatham went to talk with the mayor. During a brief off-camera discussion in his office, Bellefontaine Neighbors Mayor Robert Doerr repeatedly insisted the policy was legal and not a quota. He insisted the policy was needed because officers had been lazy and weren’t doing enough to protect the community. He claimed the policy was his idea.

Then, he told Cheatham that “if Joe St. Clair is going to drag us through the mud, then we’re going to drag him through the mud, too.” After that, the mayor asked me to leave. We tried to talk with him one last time on-camera in the parking lot, but he stuck his hand in front of his face and drove away.
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