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North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un (2nd L) talks with soldiers of the Korean People's Army (KPA) taking part in the landing and anti-landing drills of KPA Large Combined Units 324 and 287 and KPA Navy Combined Unit 597, in the eastern sector of the front and the east coastal area on March 25, 2013, in this picture released by the North's KCNA news agency in Pyongyang March 26, 2013.
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SEOUL | Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:10pm EDT


SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea repeated threats on Tuesday to target U.S. military bases as Washington and its allies tightened economic sanctions against the isolated country by targeting Pyongyang's main foreign exchange bank with new measures.

The rhetoric from North Korea - which has threatened the United States with nuclear war and rehearsed drone attacks on South Korea - and Washington's hardening reaction, drew more concern from China, Pyongyang's only major ally, which said the situation was "sensitive".

Pyongyang says United Nations sanctions, agreed after North Korea carried out a third nuclear test in February, are part of a Washington-led plot to topple its leadership.

"From this moment, the Supreme Command of the Korean People's Army will be putting into combat duty posture No. 1 all field artillery units, including long-range artillery units and strategic rocket units, that will target all enemy objects in U.S. invasionary bases on its mainland, Hawaii and Guam," the North's KCNA news agency said.

The order was issued in a statement from the North Korea's military "supreme command."

The Pentagon condemned North Korea's rhetoric, saying it was designed to "raise tensions and intimidate others."

"They need to stop threatening peace on the peninsula. That doesn't help anyone ... and we stand ready to respond to any contingency," Pentagon spokesman George Little told reporters.

The Pentagon has declined to define the range of North Korea's rockets, saying it is classified. But Admiral James Winnefeld, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, acknowledged on March 15 that one type of North Korean missile likely had the range to reach the United States.

South Korea's defense ministry said it saw no sign of imminent military action by North Korea and most military analysts say Pyongyang will not risk a conflict with the United States that it would lose.

South Korea and the U.S. military are conducting military drills until the end of April, which they have stressed are strictly defensive in nature. The North accuses Washington of war preparations by using B-52 bombers which have flown over the Korean peninsula as part of the drills, and it has abrogated an armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

The Pentagon said there have been three such flights by U.S. B-52 bombers since March 8, with the most recent one on Monday.

BANK SANCTIONS?

Officials said Japan and Australia plan to sanction North Korea's Foreign Trade Bank as part of U.S.-led efforts targeting Pyongyang's funding for its nuclear program.

China again called on all parties to show restraint. "At present, the situation on the Korean peninsula remains complex and sensitive," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei.

Pyongyang's aggressive rhetoric appears to mark a further attempt to boost the military credentials of Kim Jong-un, who took power in December 2011 after the death of his father. He has cemented the role of the military and the North's nuclear weapons and missile ambitions with the nuclear test and two long-range rocket launches.

KCNA said on Tuesday that Kim had guided a landing operation by combined units including the North Korean navy.

"This is a mythmaking for the (military) commander," said Jeung Young-tae, a senior analyst at the Korea Institute of National Unification in Seoul.

South Korea marked the third anniversary on Tuesday of the sinking of a navy ship that killed 46 sailors that it and the United States have blamed on the North. Pyongyang denied the charge.

On March 22, South Korea and the United States signed a "counter-provocation plan" meant to fine tune joint reaction to any future North Korean military strikes. The Pentagon said details of the plan were classified.
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I'm pretty sure NK isn't going to go full retard and pull the trigger.
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What would the US actions be if they launched on US bases overseas? How would we retaliate, I know as soon as those N Korean missiles left the ground the US would be scrambling fighters and bombers. Invasion would be imminent, but does anyone think the US would launch nukes in retaliation? IMO that would be a really bad, bad deal, I think that maybe something that snaps the tightrope.

Does anyone think the US has some Top secret missile defense systems?
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I'm pretty sure NK isn't going to go full retard and pull the trigger.
Lets hope not, but from the looks of things as of late, it seems inevitable. He is a young leader, with no regard for his own people. Chest flexing only gets him so far in the eyes of his people/ military and advisors. I think its about to get real on the DMZ.
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What would the US actions be if they launched on US bases overseas? How would we retaliate, I know as soon as those N Korean missiles left the ground the US would be scrambling fighters and bombers. Invasion would be imminent, but does anyone think the US would launch nukes in retaliation? IMO that would be a really bad, bad deal, I think that maybe something that snaps the tightrope.

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I do not think we would retaliate with a nuclear response. We have more than enough conventional firepower to tackle the North. The biggest question is would China back NK militaristically if NK attacked first?
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Lets hope not, but from the looks of things as of late, it seems inevitable. He is a young leader, with no regard for his own people. Chest flexing only gets him so far in the eyes of his people/ military and advisors. I think its about to get real on the DMZ.
He's doing it to garner the support of his own army. Nothing more.
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I do not think we would retaliate with a nuclear response. We have more than enough conventional firepower to tackle the North. The biggest question is would China back NK militaristically if NK attacked first?
Would seem a tad 2-faced based on them backing the sactions that are in place
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North Korea 'burning with hatred' for US after stealth bomber missions

North Korea claimed its people were "burning with hatred" for the US after Washington confirmed it had flown B-2 stealth bomber "deterrence" missions over South Korea.

A U.S. airforce B-2 Spirit stealth bomber (L) flies over Pyeongtaek, south of Seoul, South Korea Photo: REUTERS/Sin Young-keun/Yonhap













The deployment of the stealth bombers was clearly meant to deliver a potent message to Pyongyang about the US commitment to defending South Korea against any aggression as military tensions on the Korean peninsula soar.

It came after the North severed its last-remaining military hotline with South Korea on Wednesday and put its rocket units on combat status with a threat to target US bases in the Pacific region.

It also emerged on Wednesday that North Korea had "Photoshopped" an image of a troop landing drill as part of Pyongyang's renewed military propaganda war.

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The two B-2s, from Whiteman Air Force base in Missouri, flew the 13,000 mile (20,800 kilometre) round-trip in a "single continuous mission", dropping dummy ordnance on a target range in the South, the US military said in a statement.

"This ... demonstrates the United States' ability to conduct long-range, precision strikes quickly and at will," the statement said.
The bombers were participating in South Korean-US military exercises that have incensed North Korea, which has threatened to unleash a second Korean War and launch pre-emptive nuclear strikes on South Korea and the US mainland.
"How can we pardon the Yankees who hatched even a sinister plot to defame the supreme dignity, which we regard dearer than our own lives, not content with staging madcap nuclear war drills?" Cha Ok Chol, a Korean People's Army officer said according to the Korean Central News Agency.
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un (Reuters)
An editorial put out by the KCNA described "hideous politically-motivated terrorism of the US and the South Korean puppet forces targeting the dignified social system in the DPRK".
North Korea also stated on Thursday it planned to "sweep away" America's Andersen Air Force Base on Guam, according to KCNA.
Earlier on Thursday, US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel told his South Korean counterpart that Seoul could rely on all the military protection the United States has to offer nuclear, conventional and missile defence.
The US and South Korean militaries signed a new pact last week, providing for a joint military response to even low-level provocation by North Korea.
While most analysts have dismissed the bulk of the North Korean threats as rhetorical bluster, there are concerns that even a minor incident could swiftly escalate in such a volatile environment.
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what are the odds that shit hits the fan?

Eventually someone is going to get sick of the north flexing their little ass muscles and take them out, just sucks it's always the US.
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what are the odds that shit hits the fan?

Eventually someone is going to get sick of the north flexing their little ass muscles and take them out, just sucks it's always the US.
We won't attack first. What willll happen is the sanctions will either force NK to attack, or they'll dismantle their nuclear program.

Or they'll just keep doing what they're doing. That's my bet.
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We won't attack first. What willll happen is the sanctions will either force NK to attack, or they'll dismantle their nuclear program.

Or they'll just keep doing what they're doing. That's my bet.
lol, you basically just said that it will happen or it won't.

I understand we aren't going to provoke them and start the attacks. I'm just wondering how real of a threat they are to actually striking or if it's the same old tough guy shit.
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lol, you basically just said that it will happen or it won't.

I understand we aren't going to provoke them and start the attacks. I'm just wondering how real of a threat they are to actually striking or if it's the same old tough guy shit.
Well, given the fact that we have the military prowess to basically level NK in a few days, and they know it, they aren't going to do anything.

It's the same tough guy act. The wildcard is China and I would only see them stepping in if we attacked first.
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lol, you basically just said that it will happen or it won't.

I understand we aren't going to provoke them and start the attacks. I'm just wondering how real of a threat they are to actually striking or if it's the same old tough guy shit.
maybe the parade of fake missles will continue ...
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North Korea Photoshopped Its Hovercraft Fleet To Make It Look Less Terrible and Sad

There's nothing like a little Photoshop touch-up to make your navy look like more toned, suppled, and fearsome than it ever really could be. First Iran used a little editing magic to put its jets "in the air" and now North Korea is getting in on the fun as well. A glamour shot of the nation's recent hovercraft exercise shows a couple of its models looking suspiciously similar.
The photo, handed out to the media by the Korean Central News Agency, looks pretty suspect according to a some sleuthing done by the Atlantic. Specifically, a pair of hovercrafts in the background and another pair in the foreground are pretty obvious copies. Here, see for yourself:

You can really see it if you take a closer look.

It should come as no surprise; North Korea's been known to do this sort of thing before. At first glance though, it's not a bad 'shop. But if you're going to go with photo-editing over building more military vehicles, you might want to put a little more time in. And you definitely don't want to stop at two.
You can hop over to The Atlantic for a in-depth look at the digital tomfoolery. Better luck next time! [The Atlantic via The Guardian]
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hovercrafts- been scaring people since.................... never.
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Cobra always feared my GI JOE hovercraft when I played with it as a child.

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Watched the B-2 fly over wile I was at work in Osan. The Wing King sent out a system message for everyone to take a break from their offices and go look at the flight line. There were people standing on buildings to see it.

I said it when I was stationed at Whiteman and I will say it again, that is one impressive aircraft. Also, helps it was being escorted by 5 F-16s lol. Pretty badass sight.
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(CNN) -- North Korea's leader approved a plan to prepare standby rockets to hit U.S. targets, state media said Friday, after American stealth bombers carried out a practice mission over South Korea.

In a meeting with military leaders early Friday, Kim Jong Un "said he has judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation," the state-run KCNA news agency reported.
The rockets are aimed at U.S. targets, including military bases in the Pacific and in South Korea, it said.

"If they make a reckless provocation with huge strategic forces, (we) should mercilessly strike the U.S. mainland, their stronghold, their military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea," KCNA reported.

North Korean state media carried a photo of Kim meeting with military officials Friday. In the photo, the young leader is seated, leafing through documents with four uniformed officers standing around him.

On the wall behind them, a map titled "Plan for the strategic forces to target mainland U.S." appears to show straight lines stretching across the Pacific to points on the continental United States.

South Korea and the United States are "monitoring any movements of North Korea's short, middle and middle- to long-range missiles," South Korean Defense Ministry Spokesman Kim Min-seok said Friday.

Kim's regime has unleashed a torrent of threats in the past few weeks, and U.S. officials have said they're concerned about the recent rhetoric.

"I think their very provocative actions and belligerent tone, it has ratcheted up the danger, and we have to understand that reality," Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Thursday at a news briefing.

Some observers have suggested that Washington is adding to tensions in the region by drawing attention to its displays of military strength on North Korea's doorstep, such as the flights by the B-2 stealth bombers.
Hagel argued against that assertion.

Threats of annihilation normal for South Koreans
"We, the United States and South Korea, have not been involved in provocating anything," he said. "We, over the years, have been engaged with South Korea on joint exercises. The B-2 flight was part of that."

Washington and its allies "are committed to a pathway to peace," Hagel said. "And the North Koreans seem to be headed in a different direction here."

But Pentagon spokesman George Little said it was important to remain calm and urged North Korea to "dial the temperature down."

"No one wants there to be war on the Korean Peninsula, let me make that very clear," he told CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" on Thursday.

Amid the uneasy situation, China, a key North Korean ally that expressed frustration about Pyongyang's latest nuclear test, also called for calm.

"We hope relevant parties can work together to turn around the tense situation in the region," Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei said Friday, describing peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula as "a joint responsibility."



Behind North Korea's heated words about missile strikes, one analyst said, there might not be much mettle.

"The fact is that despite the bombast, and unless there has been a miraculous turnaround among North Korea's strategic forces, there is little to no chance that it could successfully land a missile on Guam, Hawaii or anywhere else outside the Korean Peninsula that U.S. forces may be stationed," James Hardy, Asia-Pacific editor of IHS Jane's Defense Weekly, North Korea's latest threat Friday morning came after the United States said Thursday that it flew two stealth bombers over South Korea in annual military exercises.
The mission by the B-2 Spirit bombers, which can carry conventional and nuclear weapons, "demonstrates the United States' ability to conduct long-range, precision strikes quickly and at will," a statement from U.S. Forces Korea said.
The North Korean state news agency described the mission as "an ultimatum that they (the United States) will ignite a nuclear war at any cost on the Korean Peninsula."
The North has repeatedly claimed that the U.S.-South Korean military exercises are tantamount to threats of nuclear war against it.
The disclosure of the B-2 flights came a day after North Korea said it was cutting a key military hotline with South Korea, provoking fresh expressions of concern from U.S. officials about Pyongyang's recent rhetoric.

Tensions escalated on the Korean Peninsula after the North carried out a long-range rocket launch in December and an underground nuclear test last month, prompting the U.N. Security Council to step up sanctions on the secretive government.

Pyongyang has expressed fury about the sanctions and the annual U.S.-South Korean military exercises, due to continue until the end of April.

The deteriorating relations have killed hopes of reviving multilateral talks over North Korea's nuclear program for the foreseeable future. Indeed, Pyongyang has declared that the subject is no longer up for discussion.

While Kim appears to have spurned the prospect of dialogue with U.S. and South Korean officials, he met with Dennis Rodman during the U.S. basketball star's bizarre recent visit to North Korea.

Sharp increases in tensions on the Korean Peninsula have taken place during the drills in previous years. The last time the North cut off military communications with the South was during similar exercises in March 2009.

North Korea has gone through cycles of "provocative behavior" for decades, Little, the Pentagon spokesman, said Thursday.

"And we have to deal with them. We have to be sober, calm, cool, collected about these periods. That's what we're doing right now," he said. "And we are assuring our South Korean allies day to day that we stand with them in the face of these provocations."

The recent saber-rattling from Pyongyang has included threats of pre-emptive nuclear strikes against the United States and South Korea, as well as the declaration that the armistice that stopped the Korean War in 1953 is null and void.

On Tuesday, the North said it planned to place military units tasked with targeting U.S. bases under combat-ready status.

Most observers say North Korea is still years away from having the technology to deliver a nuclear warhead on a missile, but it does have plenty of conventional military firepower, including medium-range ballistic missiles that can carry high explosives for hundreds of miles.

Little said Thursday that the United States was keeping a close eye on North Korea's missile capabilities.

"The important thing is for us to stay out ahead of what we think the North Korean threat is, especially from their missile program," he said. "They've been testing more missiles, and they've been growing their capabilities and we have to stay out ahead."
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Blah Blah Blah... Mr. PotatoHead said he's gunna strike the U.S.... blah blah blah... Mr. PotatoHead got fatter... blah blah blah... his missiles still suck dick for breakfast and can't hold a candlestick to ours.... blah blah blah... Mr. PotatoHead's army marches like a bunch of stiff legged faggets.. blah blah blah....
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Does anyone really think they have the balls to fire on us? This won't end nicely for them.
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I am hoping he won't fire but if he were to everything that they have bragged about (1970's equipment) just totally backfires in his face and the regime deals with him or we do quickly
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I am hoping he won't fire but if he were to everything that they have bragged about (1970's equipment) just totally backfires in his face and the regime deals with him or we do quickly
Part of my wishes he would push the button just so we can be done with it. I'm tired of hearing about NK
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