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Looks like Pelosi simply can't ignore what nearly 150 members of her party are asking for. So here it comes. The Dems wanted it, the GOP laughed at it. Either way, we're going to get it and finally put it to bed.

In editorial I predicted it happening after the midterm elections, though I figured if it was going to happen it would have a while back.

Figure I will cite a Fox News source that way we know it's not fake.

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When there is no conviction, this will literally be handing the Donald another term.
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When there is no conviction, this will literally be handing the Donald another term.
That could happen if that mimics the Clinton impeachment. Always the risk I suppose.
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When there is no conviction, this will literally be handing the Donald another term.
he'll be impeached, he won't be convicted. the question becomes whether independents see the Senate Republicans lack of interest in Trump's rather easily verifiable crimes as an abduction of their responsibility as US citizens or if the GOP can successfully frame it as Democratic overreach...

the difference in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin was that Democrats didn't vote. Trump actually got fewer votes than Romney did, but Dems didn't show up to vote for Hillary and third party candidates did much better than expected. it we assume a relatively static electorate, Dems just need to turn out their voters and the independents that dislike Trump, simply need to keep disliking him which is what the current polls show.

hopefully, the Dems insistence on the rule of law being recognized (or at least fought for) doesn't hurt them in 2020.
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For him to be impeached, the Senate will have to vote for that. I doubt they will.
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For him to be impeached, the Senate will have to vote for that. I doubt they will.
no. per the usual, you don't know what the words you're using mean.

the House impeaches and refers to the Senate. the Senate convicts (or not).
Clinton was impeached but was not convicted. Trump will be impeached but almost certainly not convicted.
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For him to be impeached, the Senate will have to vote for that. I doubt they will.
I love how this proves just how little of a clue you have of how the government works. No wonder you're such a failure.

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I poll released today from Quinnipiac University (known for it's lack of left or right bias) shows 55% of registered voters polled approve of the House inquiry.

48% of registered voters feel Trump should be removed from office.
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48% of registered voters feel Trump should be removed from office.
Not bad when 50% of the people polled were Dems.
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Not bad when 50% of the people polled were Dems.
try again. I understand that you think everyone that's not a Trump supporter is a dyed-in-the-wool-Democrat but that's not how the world works to people who deal in reality:
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try again. I understand that you think everyone that's not a Trump supporter is a dyed-in-the-wool-Democrat but that's not how the world works to people who deal in reality:
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-new-high-poll
It's fun to watch DIY pass his own opinions off as some kind of facts only to repeatedly watching him be wrong. Then rather than simply admitting he made a mistake or was wrong, he either doubles down or deflects by bringing up the Clintons. Shit is so predictable I'm going to make at DIY drinking game. Stay tuned for the rules.
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You just proved my point, most of the people who what him impeached are Libs = (Dems and Ind) and you still didn't reach 50%.
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You just proved my point, most of the people who what him impeached are Libs = (Dems and Ind) and you still didn't reach 50%.
independents aren't liberals. they don't identify as democrats (some of which are "liberals" but not all, but all of which are "Dems" which is the word you did use...) nor do they ID themselves as republicans. that's kind of the point of using a different word for them.

you don't have a point. you are pointless.
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You just proved my point, most of the people who what him impeached are Libs = (Dems and Ind) and you still didn't reach 50%.
I don't think (actually I know) you don't understand what a Liberal (or likely what a Conservative) is by actual definition. Instead you see the word Liberal as a put down used to describe anyone who opposes Trump. That's the incorrect usage of the word. You've been told this before, yet you continue to double down that your usage is the correct one. This reflects poorly on your intelligence and is one of the many things that lends to our inability to take you seriously.
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You just proved my point, most of the people who what him impeached are Libs = (Dems and Ind) and you still didn't reach 50%.
And its hard to swing the "Republicans" since ALL OF THEM are right-winged racist neo-nazis. At least that is how your logic works.
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^^ I'm sure that's what you and the rest of the Libs think of Republicans.
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Im literally just using your own retarded logic of a failed businessman that all dems and independents are liberal.
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Trump just gave us another reason to impeach him. He just killed the Austere Religious Scholar al-Baghdadi.

Nancy can just ad this to her list of impeachment crimes.
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Trump just gave us another reason to impeach him. He just killed the Austere Religious Scholar al-Baghdadi.

Nancy can just ad this to her list of impeachment crimes.
Jump, just killed him himself. Give me a fucking break. This was a multi-year long, military effort. Do I get to claim that Obama killed Bin Laden?

I love how Trump turned this into a contest too. Claiming Bin Laden wasn't that bad of a guy compared to al-Baghdadi, etc. It's amazing how everything that happens in Trump's breadth is perfect, the greatest, the best, the biggest, etc. Like he's a shining example of humanity.
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The president’s instincts nearly bungled an already-complicated operation.

In the end, it worked: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in a U.S. special forces raid in Syria, ridding the world of the brutal Islamic State leader and delivering Donald Trump a military victory. But the success of the mission was, it seems, no thanks to the president himself, whose abrupt decision to pull American troops out of Syria complicated the already-complex operation. “Mr. al-Baghdadi’s death in the raid on Saturday...occurred largely in spite of, and not because of, Mr. Trump’s actions,” the New York Times reported Sunday, citing military and counterintelligence officials familiar with the mission.

According to the Times, Trump’s withdrawal from Syria earlier this month threw a wrench into plans targeting al-Baghdadi, forcing military officials to speed up the mission aimed at taking out the ISIS leader. The Pentagon had reportedly been homing in on al-Baghdadi for months, thanks in part to intelligence provided by the Kurds Trump abandoned with his early October pull-out. But Trump’s announcement that the U.S. would clear out of Northern Syria, paving the way for a deadly Turkish incursion, put a ticking clock on the operation before “their ability to control troops, spies and reconnaissance aircraft disappeared.”

In spite of the challenges, the raid was successful. As Trump recounted in gory detail Sunday morning, U.S. forces entered the compound where the ISIS leader was hiding, pursuing him into an underground tunnel where he detonated an explosive vest he was wearing, killing himself and three of his children. Trump took credit for the raid, relishing in its morbid details and bragging that the terrorist eliminated under his watch was more important than the one taken out under Barack Obama. (Osama bin Laden only “became big with the World Trade Center,” Trump said of the 9/11 mastermind Sunday.) “He died like a dog,” Trump said of al-Baghdadi. “He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place.”

The military victory is likely to win Trump some pats on the back from his Republican supporters; Lindsey Graham, who’d been critical of his decision to withdraw from Syria, has already said that the president deserves a “great deal of credit” for the operation. In actuality, though, Trump’s instincts created obstacles to carrying out the mission. As Axios noted Monday, the raid “relied on many tools President Trump has spurned”—namely, a presence on the ground in the Middle East that Trump has decried and the Kurdish allies he hung out to dry in Northern Syria. The successful operation may temporarily quell criticisms of his decision-making. But when the dust settles, concerns about his approach to foreign policy will return.
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The reddit threads have some gold in them...

Including speculation he was on the golf course when it happened - and then there’s his admission they told Russia.... but decided not to tell Congress..

The golf course speculation also wonders if tat was planned. They might have been worried he would live tweet it...
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Looks like the House is set to vote this week on formal Impeachment Inquiry Proceedings.
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Including speculation he was on the golf course when it happened - and then there’s his admission they told Russia.... but decided not to tell Congress..

The golf course speculation also wonders if tat was planned. They might have been worried he would live tweet it...
Nope, that was Obama who was on the Golf Course, they had to drag him into the room when Bin Ladin was killed.

Trumps pull out from Syria was a tactic to put Bagdadi at ease and make the mission easier and more likely successful.
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I hope it gets to the Senate so we can get info from the defense rather than just fake info from the prosecution.
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