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The rear quarter shot reminds me of a 1 series trunk/rear and the doors remind me of a BMW, but that's about it.

MSRP on this 500hp monster?
No pricing has been released, rumors state on par with the M3/ATS-V/AMG etc....
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Photo Comparison: BMW F80 M3 vs Alfa Romeo Giulia QV - Photo Gallery




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Now that the Alfa is out of the hat, it’s time to see how it’s stacking up against its competitors. In this regard, the new Giulia QV will be going up against the likes of the Mercedes-AMG C63 S, the ATS-V and the BMW M3. As you figured it out already, we’re here to compare the Italian against the benchmark in the segment.

Looks will always be a subjective matter. Everyone has a different taste and what works for some, might not work for others. That’s why I won’t pass any kind of judgement in this respect and leave you to make up your mind about which one looks better.

However, some people have said that the new Giulia looks like it was made up of pre-existing parts that were simply glued together to bring out a new model. Even if that were the case, the designers should be praised because they did it perfectly.

We will discuss the most objective side of things, the performance and specs.

The F80 M3 uses a 3-liter biturbo inline 6-cylinder engine good for 431 HP and 550 Nm (406 lb-ft) of torque, developed by the M division. It will allow the car to run up to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.1 or 4.3 seconds depending on the gearbox.

That’s because the M3 is available with a manual 6-speed gearbox and a 7-speed dual-clutch DCT box that is the faster and more comfortable choice.

The M car also uses a lot of carbon fiber and that shows, the M3 losing nearly 200 kg (440 lbs) compared to its predecessor, tipping the scale at just over 1,500 kg (3,300 lbs) when equipped with the manual gearbox.

On the other hand, the Alfa Romeo brags with the same weight also due to carbon fiber usage but has even more impressive specs. Under the bonnet lies a Ferrari-developed twin-turbo 3-liter V6 that’s good for 510 HP.

Furthermore, the Giulia Qadrifoglio Verde will accelerate to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 seconds. Even though the Italians didn’t specify in what guise will it be able to do so, we’re assuming that’s the time for the two-pedal version.

As you can see, that’s the same level of power as the C63 AMG S model but that might not be as important as you might think. After all, the BMW held its own and even beat the Merc around a track in a recent comparison so you know that power isn’t everything. However, in the case of the Giulia, the weight difference is in her favor and that’s something to reckon with.

Until we get to see them both on a track though, we’ll have to make due with our own photo comparison. Enjoy!


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I would be interested in a wagon like this.



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Oh my, that wagon is awesome.

I'd still rather have a Vagon,but damn, that looks great.
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Opinion: will Alfa’s masterplan succeed?

We’ve seen the 503bhp Giulia, but will anyone actually buy it? Paul Horrell investigates

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So we've been shown the firework-hot version of the new Alfa Giulia. Its convincing looks are backed up by an equally convincing spec that begins with a horsepower number on the exciting side of 500. A good start to a revival.

And when we put it on the internet last night, you topgear.commers went mad. This place lit up with hits and comments. Another good sign.

But are enough people around the world actually ready to open their bank accounts and buy an Alfa? I'm not just talking about this rather rare-groove and expensive Giulia Quadrifoglio, but a whole range of Giulias and other cars and crossovers. They're supposed to take substantial chunks of business from the big-sellers from BMW, Audi et al. Can they?

Alfa's plan doesn't lack ambition. It means at least six cars by 2018, all (except the Alfa 4C) based on the Giulia's new platform.

There has been speculation that platform is not all-new, but related to Maserati's or Chrysler's. I asked Harald Wester, the chief executive.

"It's 100 percent new. Body and suspension. All our engines will be new and just for Alfa, though they will be made in the same factory as others [other Fiat and Chrysler Group engines] so they do share some basic engine dimensions."

The Giulia will be part of a range of cars and crossovers. That doesn't come cheap. "We are spending €5 billion on the structure,” Wester told me. “That means the factories and developing the cars."

The cars in question will start with the Giulia, which is the size of a 3-Series or Jaguar XE. By the end of 2018 there will also be another saloon one size bigger: think 5-Series or XF.

There will be another body variation from these, but an estate isn't a priority because they sell well only in a few parts of Europe and nowhere else, Wester says.

Importantly there will be two sporty crossovers, because that market is growing like crazy.

The current FWD Giulietta will be replaced, and that too will be on the same rear-drive/AWD architecture as the Giulia and others. Think about that: a RWD compact Alfa hatch at a time when even its BMW rival is going into front-drive.

And there will be a style-led coupe too, because people expect that as an Alfa core skill.

That line-up will have a full range of engines: four-cylinder and V6 petrols, all with turbos, in various ouputs from about 150bhp to over 500. And four-cylinder and V6 diesels. Hybrids aren't on the immediate roadmap.

The cars are light – a basic Giulia will be 1400kg, Wester says. All Alfas will have a carbon fibre propshaft, and aluminium doors and wings and suspension, says Wester, even though they won’t get the Giulia Quadrifoglio's carbon fibre roof and bonnet.

Wester's plan indicates Alfa will be selling cars at the rate of 400,000 a year by the end of 2018. Let's put that in context. BMW and Audi will probably be doing not far short of 2 million a year by then.

If you take the core BMWs that Alfa is aiming at (1-Series hatch, 3- and 5-Series saloons, X1, X3, 4-Series), that probably accounts for a million BMWs a year. Alfa wants to get to 40 percent of its rival's sales from pretty well a standing start.

It's a huge ask. For a start Alfa needs a global dealer network. Having links with Chrysler will help, but actually Wester expects many US dealers to be new, just as they were with Fiat when the 500 went on sale there. China will also get new dealers.

But there's the question of brand awareness. Wester claims huge on-line awareness, and the topgear.com response bears it out. Alfa was once among the two or three greatest car-makers on the planet – imagine today's McLaren and Rolls-Royce combined and you wouldn't be far off. But that was the 1930s.

In the 1960s it changed position to sell a lot more cars rather more cheaply. But they were about the best-engineered and sportiest cars normal people could buy: Alfa was better-regarded then than BMW is now.

After that it was all pretty much downhill for Alfa. Bankruptcy, a takeover by Fiat, years of struggle, neglect. The odd sign of hope, but really it was mostly broken promises.

And yet Wester has built his revival plan on the belief that people still know and love Alfa and can't wait to buy one. He says this is true in Europe and also America, where Alfa was absent for decades and was never big.

And even in China, Wester says, "People are very receptive to European luxury and to Italian-ness. They are open to new things." He gestures at the car: "They will fall in love."

Wester has another job, running Maserati, and that too has grown rapidly from a low base by leveraging the romance of its name and providing an Italian stylish alternative to colder German machinery.

But it's one thing for people to know Alfa, quite another to buy one, I say.

He answers: "The market size is huge in these sectors, and it's dominated by a couple of brands. There is loyalty to those brands but there's a limit after many years, when you give those buyers an exciting new stimulant. There's no mathematical equation to how many we'll sell, but the probability is high."

I say that people loved the Jaguar brand too, and the XF was a credible car when it launched, but it didn't make much of a dent on the 5-Series.

"I don't want to disrespect it, but the Jaguar brand isn't on the same level of the podium,” Wester answers. “The Alfa name is like Ferrari."

At the same time, Wester is acutely aware of Alfa’s previous broken promises. "If people come to you from the established brands, if you then disappoint them [his voice hardens] they will never come back. The 159 was an example. It had the aesthetic potential but in performance and quality, not."

Right then. The crux of the matter. Will the cars be any good? They have been engineered by a 'skunk works', a group of engineers put into an old bus factory, kept well away from the sclerotic processes and constraints of the big car company. There's purposefully very little synergy with the rest of the Fiat Chrysler Group because the cars are meant to be very different.

Wester says they will be unique because of how alive they feel to drive. "It's extremely difficult to describe or put into figures,” he says.

So he defaults to talking about what Alfas will not be. "In the current premium cars you are cocooned - the steering is light, there's little feedback from the road. It's like you're driving by-wire."

Alfas will make you feel "part of the machine,” he says, before quickly adding, in case he's alienating someone, "but not uncomfortable." Ah well, we'll just have to see. We will get to drive the Giulia towards the end of the year.

Why so long until it goes on sale? Because they wanted to show it yesterday, exactly the 105th anniversary of the founding of Alfa, and the day they re-opened their restored museum, which is chockablock with epic historical machinery.

But of course the delay until UK sales next year is nothing compared with the many many years of delay and reversals over replacing the 159. A Giulia was planned on the front-drive Giulietta architecture about eight years ago. Then that plan was binned when the financial crisis hit and Fiat bought Chrysler.

Next came a plan to relaunch Alfa out of Chrysler, using the RWD platform of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Challenger/Charger. But that didn't work either. The cars simply wouldn't have been good enough. One suspects in the past Fiat's top management would have blundered on anyway.

But this time they invested properly in this all-new platform. Speaking at the Giulia's launch, Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said that this was the first time the group had available the necessary money, the access to the necessary technology, and the necessary footprint to distribute the cars. That's why they had waited until now, he said. This investment is the sensible business decision, he told us, and it will make money.

And then Marchionne invoked the great moments of the brand's 105 years of history, and the historical figures responsible. "Giving a voice to the real Alfa Romeo was a moral imperative,” he stated.

You don't often hear that sort of emotional talk at car launches. But there was plenty of it around the Giulia. Even so, dewy-eyed optimism isn't enough on its own. They have to be brilliant cars, brilliantly made and marketed. There's absolutely no room for error.
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I'm a huge car guy and when I saw this Alfa, I didn't think 3 series. They're both good looking cars but hardly similar looking other than they've both got that leaned back, long hood design. Thank God they didn't do any of that cab forward shit.
Even if I didn't like bmw I'd still see all the 3 series styling cues in it. The back end straight on shot looks very similar. Sides, hood etc.

It doesn't look bad, I'm just not sold on new AR yet.
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Someone Opened Up Alfa's Giulia And Took A Shot Of The Interior!




While we've seen plenty of exterior photos and videos of the Alfa Romeo Giulia's exterior, our view of the interior has been limited to a single press pic, a few sketches and some shots from the outside with the windows closed.

Why, you ask? Well, automakers are always hesitant with the press and even the general public when it comes to pre-production samples like the Giulia QV sedans shown during the presentation in Turin, Italy, this week.

Being pre-production models, something may fall off, something might not look right; the gaps might be large enough to get your fingers stuck inside – things like that which can be gold in the wrong (internet) hands creating an unfair assessment based on a car that was never built to production standards. And that's why you see these kind of cars locked down.

Yet, somehow, someone was able to sneak their camera inside the Giulia and take the shot you see here…
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Alfa Romeo showcases the Active Aero Splitter on the Giulia Quadrifoglio [videos]

Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Active Aero Splitter

Alfa Romeo has released new two promotional videos which show the Giulia Quadrifoglio's Active Aero Splitter in action.
Designed to actively manage "downforce for higher performance and better grip," the active front splitter automatically extends and retracts to help the car reach its full potential.

The videos don't reveal much else but Alfa Romeo has already confirmed the Giulia Quadrifoglio will have a turbocharged six-cylinder engine that develops 510 PS (503 bhp / 375 kW). This will enable the sedan to accelerate from 0-100 km/h in just 3.9 seconds.


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Alfa Romeo Giulia reportedly has a top speed of 321 km/h

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0-100 km/h acceleration takes 3.9 second

Alfa Romeo still hasn’t revealed the official max speed of the new Giulia, but AlVolante has disclosed some juicy details about it.
According to our source, the Italian sedan in its range-topping QV version recorded a top speed of 321 km/h (200 mph) during a run from the final test phases on the Nardo track. Recently the vehicle was also tested on the Nurburgring and an official time is probably going to be revealed soon.

As a reminder, the Giulia Quadrifoglio has a 6-cylinder engine, generating 510 PS (375 kW) that enables the model to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 3.9 seconds. Power is sent to the rear wheels, but an all-wheel drive system will be optional.
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Alfa Romeo Giulia gets rendered in non-Quadrifoglio guise

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Our colleagues at Omniauto have created a rendering of what a more mainstream version of the Alfa Romeo Giulia could look like.
Using the Giulia Quadrifoglio as a base, their artists created a less aggressive model which loses the ventilated hood, massive alloy wheels and sporty side skirts. The car has also been equipped with a new front bumper and a revised grille that eschews the mesh inserts.
Alfa Romeo hasn't said much about the standard Giulia but is expected to debut early next year at either the North American International Auto Show or the Geneva Motor Show. Engine options also remain unconfirmed but speculation suggests there could be a turbocharged 2.0-liter petrol, a 2.2-liter diesel and a 3.0-liter six-cylinder turbodiesel with approximately 340 PS (250 kW).
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It only took 2.5 years to create the Alfa Romeo Giulia

Additional Engines Coming To Frankfurt





Automakers are capable of some remarkable things. Take Alfa Romeo, for example. A new vehicle generally takes four to five years to go from conception to production, but with the stunning new Giulia, the iconic Italian brand allegedly did it in less than three years. That's according Chief Engineer Philippe Krief, who spoke to Car about the, um, car.

"You ask every carmaker: doing a car in two years, everyone will tell you it's not possible," Krief told Car. "The industry standard says four, the longest say five years, everywhere in the world. We had to do it in two and a half years. [Sergio] Marchionne said – and he's right – the only way to achieve that is to be different."

Remarkably, this was done with just 11 people, handpicked by Krief. This so-called Skunkworks approach allowed for fast decision making and brainstorming, and consequently, stuff like the torque-vectoring system and active aerodynamics on the Quadrifoglio.

While we love talking about Alfa's notorious Cloverleaf trim, Krief also let some details slip on additional members of the Giulia family, beyond the 510-horsepower, 3.0-liter, twin-turbocharged V6 model. We can expect to see those in a few months time, at the 2015 Frankfurt Motor Show. And yes, that could include a four-cylinder model and a diesel V6.

"Probably," Krief said, when asked about a four-cylinder model. "And we are package-protected for V6 diesel, we can install it in the car and after we can decide whether to put it in or not."

So there you are. While the big news remains the Quadrifoglio, Alfa is set to expand the Giulia's engine range, and it'll do so very soon. Stay tuned.
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Alfa Romeo Giulia interior fully revealed in new photos

Alfa Romeo Giulia interior unofficial photo

Features a lot of carbon fiber details

The 2016 Alfa Romeo Giulia has returned with new interior photos, providing the first complete look at the cabin.
Shortly after the model’s official premiere, we shared unofficial pictures of the interior and now we have some more photos, revealing all the details. It’s easily notable that most of the interior is dominated by black leather and carbon fiber details. The sports seats, for example, feature a carbon fiber back covers and a combination of black and Alcantara leather with contrasting white stitching.

The center console comes with a large touchscreen display. At the lower part of the console the gear shifter is surrounded by carbon fiber panels and round controls for the suspension and the infotainment system. The climate system features two zones, controlled by round buttons below the center display.



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Alfa Romeo Giulia spied, could be a more mainstream variant

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Alfa Romeo unveiled the Giulia about a month ago but that hasn't stopped the automaker from continuing to test their upcoming sedan.
Believed to be a prototype for a mainstream variant, this particular Giulia has a Quadrifoglio front fascia but eschews the ventilated hood, front fender vents and aerodynamic side skirts. The rear skirt is also missing and reveals this prototype has a dual exhaust system.
Alfa Romeo has been tight-lipped about the non-Quadrifoglio variants but previous reports have suggested the standard Giulia will be unveiled at either the North American International Auto Show or the Geneva Motor Show. Engine options also remain unconfirmed but speculation suggests there could be a turbocharged 2.0-liter petrol, a 2.2-liter diesel and a 3.0-liter six-cylinder turbodiesel with approximately 340 PS (250 kW).


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Carbon and Chrysler: Alfa Romeo Giulia Interior Images Surface [Video]



Last month, Alfa Romeo unveiled its new BMW 3-series–fighting Giulia. For a few days, we hemmed, hawed, oohed, ahhed, and then refocused ourselves on more reality-based concerns, like how many cars have been recalled for Takata airbag issues. Now, as if to wake us from a stupor and remind us, that, yes, there is a new Alfa coming to take on the Jaguar XE and the Cadillac ATS, photos of the Giulia’s interior have surfaced (presumably of the hot Quadrifoglio version), conveniently edited into a video that makes heavy use of the Ken Burns Effect.

The start button is big, red, and mounted right there on the steering wheel where it can’t be missed when a hasty departure is of the essence. The steering wheel’s switchgear, on the other hand, looks Dart-grade. But look! It has carbon-fiber trim! The material is also used on the shells of the thin-back sporty-look bucket seats, as well as on the top of the console and as an accent on the shift knob. The infotainment knob in the center console also appears as if it might incorporate a touch-sensitive writing pad.


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Alfa Romeo to position Quadrifoglio Verde as a BMW M competitor

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Fiat Chrysler Automobiles Australia CEO Pat Dougherty has confirmed Alfa Romeo will position Quadrifoglio Verde as a rival to BMW M and Mercedes-AMG.
Speaking to CarAdvice, Dougherty said "The QV designation will soon be reserved for [the] Giulia and above, meaning it will come off the Giulietta and models at that end of the Alfa family." The executive went on to say QV will become "synonymous with the likes of BMW M, AMG, that sort of thing.”
While the high-performance versions of the Giulietta and MiTo will lose the Quadrifoglio Verde designations they're not going away entirely as previous reports have suggested they will simply be renamed with the Veloce suffix.
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Alfa Romeo Giulia QV roars its 510 PS bi-turbo V6 engine [video]

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"The sound of pure power is back"

Alfa Romeo has released a new promotional clip with the Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde (QV), this time allowing us to hear the engine's powerful and raspy soundtrack.
Alfa has been relatively quiet following the Giulia's unveiling last month, but now they are trying to make up for lost time by allowing us to hear the mighty 510 PS Ferrari-derived engine at full throttle. All that output is generated by a twin-turbo V6 2.9-liter engine which works as standard with a rear-wheel drive setup, but an optional all-wheel drive layout will be offered at an additional cost.
Developed to rival the M3, C63 and the RS4, this 200 mph QV version will boast a perfect 50:50 weight distribution and is going to tip the scales at around 1,500 kg (3,306 lbs) thanks to a lightweight construction mixing up aluminum with carbon fiber.
More details about the highly desirable sedan will be released in the weeks to come, ahead of a proper public debut set for mid-September at the Frankfurt Motor Show where Alfa will also bring the regular versions of the Giulia.



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Unread 2015-08-10, 11:18 AM   #69
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Alfa Romeo Giulia 2015: Built On An All-New, Rear-Wheel Drive Platform For U.S.


(Photo : Harold Cunningham Getty Images News) 2013 Geneva Auto Show
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163412791 Alf Romeo is back in America featuring its 4c pint-sized sports car after taking a haitus from U.S. production for 20 years. In addition, the Italian brand car has something for everyobody and is going mainstream. And it's called the Alfa Romeo Giulia 2015 sedan, NCnewspress reported.






With all eyes on the Alfa Roeo Giulia 2015 sedan, it's a significant vehicle for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, the parent company of Alfa. With the company moving in to carve out its peace of the pie of the American luxury auto market, which includes BMW.

Now that the BM-3 series sized car is available in the U.S. the FCA could make a competitive entry into the U.S., particularly with Alfa Romeo's cult following.

It's easy to tell that FCA put a lot of time into this car.

"Skunkworks of the best engineers, designers, and stylists within the company" put their effort into the new Giulia, said the auto firm?

The question that everyone is asking is, "What does this mean for the consumer? The model that was recently shown to the press was the top-of-the-line Quadrifolio edition.

The Alfa Romeo At is Ferrari inspired and is at the core of Giiulia Quadrifoglio. "It is an all-aluminum, turbocharged V6 engine producing a prodigious 510 horsepower," the Hullaballoo reported. "That means the Alfa is good for 0-60mph in just 3.9 seconds - on par with the best BMW's standard-bearing M3 can do. Although the Bimmer does it with considerably less horsepower.7

"Giulia built on an all-new, rear-wheel drive platform, upon which a series of new models will be based," according to Ncnp.com. "For those searching for a truly visceral driving experience, the Alfa's equipped with a performance-oriented sports suspension and a perfect 50/50 front/rear weight distribution. This should make the Quadrifoglio a dream to put through the corners."
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Watch the Alfa Romeo Giulia Testing at the Nurburgring


We are, it’s safe to say, extremely excited about the 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia. The tidy rear-drive sports sedan very clearly has BMW in its gunsights—particularly in 510-hp, twin-turbo V-6 Quadrifoglio spec. And from what we’ve heard so far, it’s got a scintillating soundtrack. This Nurburgring video of a lightly camouflaged example only confirms that.
Posted by Nurburgring maven and solid YouTube poster “cvdzijden,” what we have here is nearly two minutes of a dazzle-wrapped Giulia attacking the famous Green Hell. The car looks very well planted, with only brief moments at the ragged edge of traction. The engine sounds fierce and strong, and the brakes seem particularly powerful—at certain moments of braking leading into the ‘Ring’s tight corners, we see the car’s hazard lights flashing, a European-market safety feature activated by extremely hard braking.


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It’s becoming exceedingly clear that if Alfa Romeo wants to compete with the major automakers, it needs the Giulia to succeed. Judging by the way this preproduction example hustles around Germany’s most challenging race track, Alfa’s taking this challenge very seriously.
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Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio filmed at gas station near the ‘Ring [video]

Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio

Sounds brutal

Yet another Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio was seen at the Nurburgring, this time at the nearby gas station getting a refill.
While we are patiently waiting for Alfa to finally show more of the Giulia at next month's Frankfurt Motor Show, here is another video with a camouflaged near-production prototype of the flagship Quadrifoglio version. We get to check out up close and personal the menacing body and also hear the grunt provided by the Ferrari-derived bi-turbo V6 2.9-liter which will push out a beefy 510 PS.
Needless to say, the Giulia family will also have more mainstream versions, one of which has already been caught on camera. However, most people want to see more of the Quadrifoglio version which aims to be an M3, C63 S killer by promising to offer a 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h) sprint in 3.9 seconds and an estimated 200 mph (321 km/h).





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That is a beautiful car. Beautiful interior, clean and sanitary. I like it all.
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soooo much wantttt. hope our dealer gets one
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Are you a Maserati/Alfa designated dealer?
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Are you a Maserati/Alfa designated dealer?
Not Maserati, not yet at least. But we have rights to Alfa from what I gather at our Fiat dealership.
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