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And this is how you lose the respect of anyone in the middle, or even people that might support your basic idea. I win gun control arguments because the facts are on my side. You and others supporting this travel ban will lose with the majority of whom you speak with, because the data and facts don't back up your fearful position.
What I am saying is that it doesn't matter what the data shows, the President has the authority to ban whomever he feels is a threat to the country. He doesn't have to prove they are a threat, it is at his discretion.

How people feel about that is up to them.
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I don't like being blatantly lied to by our president and his staff. I do thoroughly enjoy watching him slowly get torn a part, his support dwindle, his ideas and orders getting squashed by the judicial system, and him simply being put in his place. It is enjoyable for me to see reality smack him across the face as he comes to terms with the fact that you cannot run a country like business or flat out lie in order to get your way. And no, it doesn't keep me up and night and I don't talk about him much to my friends/family unless we're having fun, which is so damn easy at his expense. I mean come on, he gives us material every freaking day.
I've got a newsflash, all his presidency has done is move the country further right.
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Nice, shook the King of Saudi Arabia's hand but is too good to shake Merkel's... and Obama was supposedly the one who was "isolating America from its allies."
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Nice, shook the King of Saudi Arabia's hand but is too good to shake Merkel's... and Obama was supposedly the one who was "isolating America from its allies."
He loves Saudi Arabia because they buy his hotels. He's said so himself.
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What I am saying is that it doesn't matter what the data shows, the President has the authority to ban whomever he feels is a threat to the country. He doesn't have to prove they are a threat, it is at his discretion.

How people feel about that is up to them.
Please show us what law allows the President to do this. Please also show how doing this doesn't violate existing immigration laws or The Constitution
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Please show us what law allows the President to do this. Please also show how doing this doesn't violate existing immigration laws or The Constitution
Show me how it does.
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The 14th amendment offers constitutional protections for any citizen or noncitizen on US soil. It also extends to visa holders. Once you consider that, due process, habeus corpus, the first amendment, family unification rights all become legal hurdles
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Federal immigration law also includes Section 1182(f), which states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate” (emphasis added).
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LOL. There's a lot more to this than just that little citation. You need to familiarize yourself with the legal process.
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LOL. There's a lot more to this than just that little citation. You need to familiarize yourself with the legal process.
Typical obfuscation from the left, lets not read what the law says, let's create a bunch of BS and try to make our own interpretation of the law.

I know it works in court and I know the left has been doing it for decades, that's why we are in the mess we are.
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as opposed to cherry picking parts that fit your opinion but leaving out the rest that may not fit....
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Confirmed FBI investigation into the Trump campaign. Where are the "Lock him up!" chants?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...russia-n735696
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Confirmed FBI investigation into the Trump campaign. Where are the "Lock him up!" chants?

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It means no one has any information or evidence to confirm Trump's claim of wiretapping Trump tower.

Which translates to, he's full of shit.
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Wallace said it well.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/2...mp-white-house
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It means no one has any information or evidence to confirm Trump's claim of wiretapping Trump tower.

Which translates to, he's full of shit.
Same as claims of Russian Hacking of the election.
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Same as claims of Russian Hacking of the election.
Well except they haven't come out and said that yet like they have about the wiretapping claims. The Russian hacking and possible ties to the Trump administration is under investigation by the FBI. I wouldn't count your chickens before they're hatched.
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Well except they haven't come out and said that yet like they have about the wiretapping claims. The Russian hacking and possible ties to the Trump administration is under investigation by the FBI. I wouldn't count your chickens before they're hatched.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "Russian hacking". Comey and Rogers both stated yesterday that there is no evidence that Russia interfered with our voting process. At this point there is no evidence that votes were changed or the machines were tampered with.

Or am I misunderstanding you?
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Oh hey, no evidence of Russian hacking the election.

What's the next bullshit item for the left?
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are you guys mentally deficient? Nobody has claimed that Russia "hacked the votes." They are claiming that they meddled in the election process in order to influence it in a certain direction.
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are you guys mentally deficient? Nobody has claimed that Russia "hacked the votes." They are claiming that they meddled in the election process in order to influence it in a certain direction.
Show me the money!
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Show me the money!
You mean, like consensus among all of the prominent intelligence agencies and confirmation from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.3cba04533c0f

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[QUOTE=ForcFed93;2415135]You mean, like consensus among all of the prominent intelligence agencies and confirmation from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.3cba04533c0f

[url]http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/lindsey-graham-trump

Lolz at Lindsey Graham. That dude would eat double dick sammich on live tv to stay relevant.

As far as Russia influencing the election, by what? Releasing DNC corrupt emails? I've got no problem that they were getting closed. People need to see that they are being herded like sheep by the left.
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are you guys mentally deficient? Nobody has claimed that Russia "hacked the votes." They are claiming that they meddled in the election process in order to influence it in a certain direction.
Isn't that was DIY was referring too? He was pretty specific "Russian hacking of the election."
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Isn't that was DIY was referring too? He was pretty specific "Russian hacking of the election."
No, Shaun Y is just "moving the goal posts" as ol ryan Stewart likes to put it.
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