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Depends. As it sits you have an HTC phone and an LG phone, both using the styling of HTC. But as it sits they still havent built a phone, just commissioned one. The only thing they changed is the name and the price.
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Depends. As it sits you have an HTC phone and an LG phone, both using the styling of HTC. But as it sits they still havent built a phone, just commissioned one. The only thing they changed is the name and the price.
Yeah, it is hard to tell how/what will change. I have noticed that Nokia, OPO do similar things and contract their phones out but Google saw something w/ just that team at HTC maybe they need to find their Mr Ive and go from there.
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Leak: Huawei Mate 10 Pro Shipping With Moleskine’s Stylus?




Several Huawei Mate 10 variants are expected to land on October 16, and following a ton of rumors and leaks, @evleaks (aka Evan Blass) has just released yet another, rather interesting image. If you take a look at the image above the article, you will notice the Huawei Mate 10 Pro on the right, a phone that leaked several times already, an on the left you’ll see something really interesting, a stylus. The source did not exactly explain any of this, but that stylus seems quite familiar, read on.



You’re looking at the Moleskine Pen+ stylus here, or so it seems. Does this mean that Huawei partnered up with Moleskine for the Huawei Mate 10 (Pro) launch? Well, it is possible, but the Moleskine Pen+ works on the Moleskine’s Paper Tablet and N Moleskine Notebook, so… are the Huawei Mate 10 Pro users going to get all of that in the package, or? There are a lot of questions that are left after this, and unfortunately, we can only guess. In any case, this stylus is somewhat special, as you can write whatever you want in Moleskine’s Paper Tablet and N Moleskine Notebook, and the content will appear on your smartphone as well, though you’ll need to download the Moleskine Notes application from the Google Play Store in order for that to work. If Huawei is partnering up with Moleskine, and if the company will bundle in the Moleskine Pen+ with the device, then the app will almost certainly come pre-installed on it as well. It is even possible that the company will offer the Moleskine Pen+ and Moleskine Paper Tablet / N Moleskine Notebook as an extra, as in you’ll have to pay extra in order to get that as well. As already mentioned, we’re only guessing at this point.



The Huawei Mate 10 Pro will be made out of metal, while it will sport a dual camera setup on the back. A rear-facing fingerprint scanner will also be a part of this package, and the device will sport really thin bezels. Huawei’s logo will be placed below the phone’s display, and the phone will be fueled by the newly-announced Kirin 970 64-bit octa-core processor. The Huawei Mate 10 Pro will include 6GB or 8GB of RAM, and Leica’s lenses will be included on top of the phone’s camera sensors. Android 8.0 Oreo will come pre-installed on the Huawei Mate 10 Pro, and on top of it you’ll get the company’s Emotion UI (EMUI) skin, that is something that Huawei actually confirmed earlier today.
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Pure White Essential Phone can now be ordered at Essential.com



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The Essential Phone is already a gorgeous phone in its debut Moon Black, but us tech enthusiasts seem to have a thing for panda-themed phones (black front, white back). Just look at how many people went crazy over the 'Black & White' Pixel 2 XL. But before the Pixel 2 XL was even unveiled, Essential already had a Pure White version of the PH-1 in the works. And now, it's finally for sale.

Aside from the new color, there are no other changes to the Essential Phone. The back is still ceramic, and the frame still titanium. That's good, because the PH-1 is already one of the most well-designed phones on the market. This isn't even the last color variant Essential will be releasing; 'Stellar Gray' and 'Ocean Depths' still aren't out.
Essential claims that the Pure White PH-1 is now available from its site, Amazon, Best Buy, and Sprint, but the only place you can actually get one right now is essential.com. Amazon is showing it as shipping in one to two months, Best Buy is just showing it as 'coming soon' for both the unlocked and 'out of stock' for the Sprint models, and Sprint doesn't even show it as an option. Perhaps tomorrow we'll see those sites updated.
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Google drops the price of Type-C to headphone adapter from $20 to $9





I have bad news, and I have good news. The bad news is headphone jacks are dying, and Google is helping to kill them. That means you need adapters to keep using your existing audio devices with 3.5mm jacks. The good news is you can buy a Type-C adapter on the Google Store for much less money than you could a few days ago. Silver lining, and all that.

When Google launched the revamped store with all those new Pixel accessories, the "USB-C Digital to 3.5 mm headphone adapter" was priced at $20. The new Pixels do come with an adapter, but $20 is rather steep if you lose it or want a spare. Google has bowed to pressure, dropping the price to a much more reasonable $9.
This adapter works on the Pixel 2, but it might also be fine on other phones that need a digital (not analog) adapter. The price drop does not extend to the combo Type-C and 3.5mm adapter, which continues to cost $45.
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The Pixel 2 XL Has A Somewhat Hidden Notification LED Light





It appears that Google’s latest Pixel 2 XL flagship takes advantage of a feature that passed by unmentioned during its official unveiling event, specifically an LED notification light embedded inside its top bezel. This feature was discovered by one tech enthusiast from the U.K. who appears to have obtained the device early on, and much like in the case of the original Pixel devices, the notification LED seems to be disabled by default.
Indeed, the first Pixel series was also equipped with a notification LED and similarly, Google wasn’t in a rush to reveal this feature last year either. However, unlike last year when the notification LED was fitted behind the textile material covering the front-facing loudspeaker, this time around the Pixel 2 XL embeds the notification LED behind the front-facing glass covering the top bezel. In any case, the source only shared an image with the Pixel 2 XL and as such it’s not entirely clear if the standard Pixel 2 also takes advantage of a notification LED. But at least according to a 9to5Google reader who claims to have tested both smartphones in one of Verizon Wireless’ brick & mortar stores, the notification LED is available on both models, and much like last year, the function is disabled by default and can be enabled from the settings menu under the ‘Notifications’ section.
It’s worth noting that the new Pixel 2 series takes advantage of an always-on display thanks to the adoption of AMOLED technology, and as such both smartphones already have ways to notify users without having to rely on LEDs or lighting up the entire surface of their displays. Nevertheless, an additional option in the form of a notification light can be useful in some scenarios and it might actually be a noteworthy addition for some prospective customers looking forward to the Pixel 2’s market release. Speaking of which, the Pixel 2 series is distributed in the United States by Verizon Wireless alone – not counting Google’s own online store – and the carrier expects the first Pixel 2 orders to be shipped before October 19th. Shipping dates still vary depending on the model, storage options, and color choices, but the Pixel 2 series should start reaching customers within the next couple of weeks.
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Good because always on is a misnomer. It only flashes and then goes back to sleep. With an LED I can see I have a notification just walking by.
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Here's How Huawei's Latest Bevy of Smartphones Undercut Apple and Samsung

























China’s Huawei has unveiled a new line of smartphones that match or even improve on key features offered by Apple or Samsung while undercutting their rivals on price.
Huawei aims to distinguish itself through technological advances that will put it on a level playing field with the most coveted premium-priced devices, helping to boost profitability that has been undermined by heavy discounting in the chase for market share.
Monday’s product launch in Munich introduced Huawei’s new Mate 10 series, touting high-end cameras, screens, and batteries, but at prices 15-30% below more or less comparable Apple and Samsung smartphones.
Huawei was the world’s No.3 smartphone maker by shipments last year, temporarily overtaking Apple as No.2 in June as consumers awaited the new iPhone 8 and iPhone X lineup, data from Counterpoint Research shows.
With Apple’s latest models now on the market, Huawei has weighed in with the Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, featuring, respectively, 5.9-inch and 6-inch edge-to-edge displays, as well as fast-charging batteries that sustain two days of heavy use.
“The Mate 10 line ticks all the boxes in terms of screen size, high-quality camera, powerful processor and slick design – competing with rival products from Samsung and to some extent, Apple,” said CCS Insight mobile analyst Ben Wood.
Perhaps the most distinctive features of the Mate 10 series is its image recognition capability—an artificial intelligence feature that can tell the difference between people, flowers, or other objects in different light or weather conditions. The Mate 10 also boasts cameras with high-grade Leica f1.6 aperture lenses.
“We have the ability to start helping the novice become a professional-grade photographer,” Peter Gauden, a senior Huawei product marketing manager, said at an advance product briefing. “(It) is not only a smartphone, it is an intelligent machine.”
PRICING AND PROFITABILITY

In March, Huawei vowed to focus on profit margins and reduce spending this year after posting its slowest profit growth in five years in 2016.
Though it has become more focused on mid-tier and premium phones and reduced its appetite for market share at any cost, it still has a long way to go.
Apple (AAPL, +1.44%) captures nearly two thirds of the smartphone industry’s profits and Samsung accounts for almost a quarter while Huawei and Chinese rivals operate on meagre margins of about 4%, Counterpoint Research estimates.
Those modest margins put a cap on how far Huawei can go with further discounting.
China’s largest smartphone maker is looking to sustain its momentum in international markets such as Europe while also differentiating itself from fast-growing domestic rivals through technical advances.
“Today our product is getting better and better, but the challenge for us is our branding,” Huawei Consumer Business Group chief Richard Yu told Reuters last month. “Our brand, many people don’t know that, they don’t know Huawei.”
Huawei’s European growth exceeded 50% in the first half of 2017, outpacing other regions, Yu said, adding that European sales had helped to compensate for sluggish growth in emerging markets.
The Mate 10, priced at 699 euros ($825), will go on sale in 15 countries this month, ranging from Spain to the Gulf states, Australia and southeast Asia, Huawei said.
The slightly more feature-rich Mate 10 Pro will be priced at 799 euros and start to ship in mid-November to 20-plus countries, including Germany, France, Italy, as well as Asian and Middle East nations. The company also said it will offer a luxury Porsche Design edition at 1,395 euros.
Samsung’s comparable top-of-the-line phone, the Galaxy Note 8, is priced at 999 euros in Germany. Apple’s smaller-screened iPhone 8 starts at 799 euros while the iPhone 8 Plus is 909 euros and the iPhone X starts at 1,149 euros on the company’s German website.
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Essential Accused Of Stealing Trade Secrets In New Lawsuit





Essential is now reportedly the subject of a new lawsuit brought on by Keyssa, a company who specializes in wireless connector technology. According to a report out of Reuters which in turn cites the filing of a lawsuit today in the U.S. federal court in San Francisco. According to the details, the sum of the lawsuit revolves around Essential’s use of a chip (and its related technologies) which allows the Essential PH-1 (otherwise known as the ‘Essential Phone’) to connect to various accessories, such as Essential’s 360 camera and docking station.
While the chip used by Essential is not actually one that was provided by Keyssa, the report (and by association Keyssa itself) explains that it was in talks with Essential for over 10 months to include its version of the chip in the Essential PH-1. Following which, Essential chose to go with a chip manufactured by another company, but while doing so also included some of the Keyssa techniques that it was made privy to during those earlier negotiations. Technology and design talks which Keyssa states were had under a nondisclosure agreement between the two companies. Which is where the basis of the lawsuit resides with Keyssa effectively accusing Essential of stealing trade secrets (as well as not compensating Keyssa for the use of the tech) and using them to bring to market its debut smartphone and accessories.
While lawsuits to some degree have become common practice in the mobile industry, this one does come with an extra added element of drama due to a Google association between the two companies. As Keyssa is a company that is reportedly backed by Tony Fadell (who is also listed on the company’s site as an adviser), the co-founder of Nest, while Essential of course, was founded by a co-creator of Android, Andy Rubin. Although neither of the ex-Googlers were noted as directly part of, or listed in the recent court filings. Reuters did reach out to Essential for comment although one was not provided at the time with Essential stating that it has yet to be served with the lawsuit. While Keyssa stated in the same report that the lawsuit is the result of Keyssa having been unable to resolve the issue with Essential through other means.
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The Pixel 2 is hiding a secret chip that doesn’t do a single thing right now







Google made a big deal about the Pixel 2 phones a few weeks ago, but it forgot to unveil a feature that’s not available on any other device, including Apple’s recent iPhone 8 and iPhone X.
It’s unclear why Google kept its new “Pixel Visual Core” a secret until Tuesday. Maybe Google was afraid Pixel 2 teardowns would discover the custom chip Google built for the sole purpose of enhancing the phone’s camera. Or maybe Google just didn’t want to field questions when people found out that the chip currently doesn’t work.








The Pixel Visual Core is an octa-core system-on-a-chip (SoC) that joins the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 SoC, which runs the show. However, Google’s proprietary chip only handles photography, and it’s supposedly faster and more efficient than the main chip powering the phone:
With eight Google-designed custom cores, each with 512 arithmetic logic units (ALUs), the IPU delivers raw performance of more than 3 trillion operations per second on a mobile power budget. Using Pixel Visual Core, HDR+ can run 5x faster and at less than one-tenth the energy than running on the application processor (AP).
The Pixel 2 already received high praises for its cameras, and that’s before the Pixel Visual Core came into play. That’s right, the chip doesn’t actually work right now, and it won’t do a single thing until an upcoming software update brings it to life. Yes, it’s unfortunate. But others in the business have shipped features in beta or activated them well after a brand new device started shipping, so it’s not unprecedented. The difference, however, is that companies like Apple and Samsung didn’t keep those features secret.

Unlike that other Pixel 2 secret that you can’t really put to good use, this new camera chip seems to be far more exciting. Google plans to let third-party apps make use of the Pixel Visual Core in the future.
HDR+ will be the first application to run on Pixel Visual Core. Notably, because Pixel Visual Core is programmable, we’re already preparing the next set of applications.
The chip will be activated once Android Oreo 8.1 is released in the coming weeks.
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At $499, Essential Phone is worth considering







The smartphone market is tough to break into right now. It’s oversaturated with hundreds of options, and without much wiggle room to stray from the established “slab” design, even attempting to be innovative is risky. However, being “risky” doesn’t mean it’s impossible to succeed, especially if you have enough credentials behind your company or product before it even launches. Such is the case with the Essential Phone released earlier this year by Essential, a company started by one of the founders of Android, Andy Rubin.
It’s a solid enough start. Throw in Essential Phone’s excellent specs, mostly stock Android, and its bezel-less 5.8-inch display, things look pretty good for the device. Unfortunately, there were a few things standing in the way of Essential Phone’s success.
First and foremost, there’s the irony of being called the “Essential Phone” but not including what many consider to be an “essential” feature – the 3.5mm headphone jack. Although it’s curiously become a trend over the past year to omit it, the move hasn’t exactly been a hit among consumers. Unlike Apple, who is the sole manufacturer of iOS devices, Essential is ultimately a drop in the hat in the world of Android, so if the headphone jack was an important feature to somebody, they’re likely to look elsewhere.
There’s also the matter of Essential as a brand, which is that most people probably aren’t aware they exist. Sure, Andy Rubin might be heading the company, and yes, he’s been a prominent figurehead when it comes to Android’s development, but is Joe Schmoe going to know or care about any of that when he walks in to Sprint for his bi-annual upgrade? Probably not. That isn’t saying that Essential isn’t worth checking out, but a lot of people aren’t interested in taking risks when it comes to gadgets used daily like smartphones. They want to know they can trust the brand to keep a good thing going for the next year or two. In its first year, there are going to be a lot of people that overlook Essential because they don’t really have a reputation either way; it’s a risk to buy Essential, especially when the phone costs a whopping $699.
Or it did, anyway. And here’s where I think things might turn around for Essential, at least for its reputation. At $699, the Essential Phone was directly competing with phones like Apple’s iPhone and Samsung Galaxy S and Galaxy Note devices. Although the Essential Phone may have matched up quality-wise in many areas with those flagships, a big reason people are willing to pay higher prices for those devices is because of their branding and reputation… which Essential just doesn’t have. Yet. However, now that Essential Phone’s price dropped by $200, people will have more reasons to consider the device. In fact, Essential Phone “essentially” became one of the cheapest flagships of 2017 overnight.
For just $499, you get a flagship with a 5.8-inch bezel-less display, Snapdragon 835 processor, 4GB of RAM, 128GB of internal storage, dual 13-megapixel cameras, 8-megapixel front-facing camera, and a 3,040 mAh battery. That’s a pretty powerful phone for $500.
I do think that the Essential Phone is missing some important things that would truly make it an “essential” phone. The 3.5mm headphone jack was already mentioned, but the device is also lacking any sort of water resistance and integrated wireless charging. I’m a big fan of having a microSD card slot as well, but I will give credit to Essential for giving the device a generous 128GB of internal storage. These compromises are things that I wasn’t willing to overlook for a $699 price tag – especially the headphone jack and water resistance – but for $499 I’m willing to bet people would be more forgiving.
Essential picked a good time to drop the price of the Essential Phone considering Google also dropped the headphone jack in the Pixel 2 duo, and it appears that the Pixel 2 XL is having some significant burn-in issues. The price drop also comes just ahead of holiday shopping, so if you’ve been holding out for holiday sales then this couldn’t have come at a more convenient time.
Readers, what are your thoughts on this significant price drop? Are you more interested in Essential Phone now that it’s $200 cheaper?
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That actually makes that phone competitive, IMO. Especially considering the Pixel 2 XL's screen issues.
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need to watch their updating schedule and some longevity, one of the issues I have with OPO
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Yep, they're a start up, so if they go tits up in 6 months, you might be SOL and your phone could become a security risk, too.
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Ready for 2018 Google Pixel Codenames?






We believe that at least one of the 2018 Google Pixel codenames is currently “crosshatch,” according to a trusted source of ours, but that Google may also be working on devices codenamed “albacore” and “blueline.” Yes, I’m talking about next year’s Pixel devices, not the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL that we just got done reviewing and were only unveiled officially a few weeks back in San Francisco.
Our source, who has handed us very early and correct info on multiple occasions, including the first mention of “taimen” as a potential third Google phone earlier this year. As you all know now, “taimen” turned out to be the LG-made Pixel 2 XL.
This source adds that Google may end up simply referencing the trio of phones as A, B, and C to hide their identity some. We were also told that two of these devices will be considered “premium,” while the third will fit into the “high” end tier. What the difference is there is a mystery to us. Our source referred to them as “Pixel” devices, though.
We’ve been sitting on the info for some time as we worked to find an additional confirmation or a reference to any of the devices by Google. Today, that happened for “crosshatch” through a comment to an AOSP listing in reference to Pixel devices. The mention popped up here and can be seen below.
The reference to “crosshatch” is in the same breath as if it were a part of Google’s device line-up (or future line-up), specifically the Pixel line-up. The page discusses both “sailfish” and “marlin” on numerous occasions (those are the original Pixel and Pixel XL), plus the comment we care so much about says that “crosshatch” and the audio files under discussion were a part of “Pixel and Qualcomm code.” That’s certainly not definitive proof that “crosshatch” is a new Pixel phone, but it matches up to info provided to us.
On a related note, while “albacore” and “blueline” have avoided us thus far, you’ll notice that we underlined another mystery device above, “wahoo.” I have no idea what “wahoo” is, other than it’s another fish and we know that Google likes to look for obscure sea creatures when naming its hardware products. I also know that it’s being coupled in with other Pixel devices here, including “crosshatch.” We were told that “wahoo” may have been some sort of leftover from 2017 Google devices and is not necessarily in the 2018 group.
Also this went live for “wahoo” today, as well as “wahoo-kernel”:
Those repositories are empty, but they are public. Are they supposed to be public? If so, what device is it? There is only a single mention of it in AOSP that I can find – the one we included in the screenshot above.
We should point out that for 2017 we saw “muskie,” “walleye,” and “taimen” all exist at the same time, but that “muskie” was eventually given the boot. Since we’re reporting these names this early, don’t be surprised if things change as we get into 2018.
Either way, you now have some names to start hunting down or at least keep an eye on.
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Had to cancel pixel 2 XL order for now. Hopefully can get one in the near future.
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Had to cancel pixel 2 XL order for now. Hopefully can get one in the near future.
Related to the screen issues? Or other reasons?
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Unread 2017-10-24, 12:06 PM   #11018
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Related to the screen issues? Or other reasons?
Personal reasons. Don't want to expand too much but not related to screen or anything. Mkbhd's review I think sums up the phone well, and the screen issues from my perspective.
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No worries; I didn't mean to pry. I was just curious if that was a factor as I wonder how much that will hit their sales numbers.
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Oh I'm positive it is...people on Reddit are freaking out about it. Like...get real...a little graininess at super low light levels and blue shift is not a deal breaker.
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Oh I'm positive it is...people on Reddit are freaking out about it. Like...get real...a little graininess at super low light levels and blue shift is not a deal breaker.
I mean, I do find it pretty disappointing that an almost $1000 phone is having burn in issues, as well as blue shift and a grainy screen. The latter two things are less of a big deal to me, but I would be pretty upset if my two week old, top-tier phone had the home buttons burned onto the screen.
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The screen looked plenty good to me in the Verizon store and didn't seem to have a crazy blue shift.

To the point I wouldn't have noticed at all had I not read the internet hivemind on it.

Regardless I would get the non-XL, but I'm gonna hold onto my OG Pixel another year anyway.
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To me, the only issue with the screen is burn in. That shouldn't happen. Should have stuck with Samsung for the XL screen.
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Yeah seeing the burn in posts ...that's a deal breaker. I don't think I'll get one unless they can show they've managed to resolve it.
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To me, the only issue with the screen is burn in. That shouldn't happen. Should have stuck with Samsung for the XL screen.
I think they literally were unable to secure Samsung as a vendor for both phones due to Samsung's other (Apple) clients.

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Yeah seeing the burn in posts ...that's a deal breaker. I don't think I'll get one unless they can show they've managed to resolve it.
It seems it is an image retention issue and goes away, but still is an issue a phone that pricey shouldn't have.

My OG Pixel has very little burn-in, and I've done nothing preventative to combat it, OG XL and Pixel 2 seem to be the same, sucks they switched/had to switch to LG on the XL 2 as a vendor.
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