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The next standard for wireless connectivity has been in development by the 3GPP cellular standards group for some time now, and won't be ready for a while yet - at least not until 2018. But now the group has officially adopted "5G" as the name going forward, and created the above logo for it.
Why is this important, you ask? Mostly because it's called 5G, and not another iteration of the existing 4G LTE branding. This should make it easier for general consumers to understand, as opposed to the recent LTE Advanced and LTE Advanced Pro standards.
The technology itself is still years away from rolling out, with the 5G Phase 1 specifications due sometime in late 2018. While the exact definition has not been finalized, 5G is expected to focus more on higher capacity than the faster speeds 4G introduced. This should help tremendously, especially with smartphones becoming more accessible and the Internet of Things trend taking off.
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I'm sure Sprint will be the first to roll it out, and the "5G" speeds will be comparable to Verizon and AT&T's 3g speeds.
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My job keeps tell my coworkers and I that 5G is coming and we should kiss our families good bye as we will be busy as all get out. Haven't heard anything else.
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The first real 5G wireless standard is official


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Every carrier is clamoring to roll out a 5G network, or at least something they can reasonably market as 5G. After a long, long development period, the 3GPP wireless governance organization has released the first official 5G standard, known as 5G NR. Formalizing the 5G standard gives carriers and hardware makers the pieces they need to begin moving full speed ahead toward a 5G future. Maybe we can get this transition done without anyone re-branding their 4G service as 5G.

The final technical details of the 5G NR will be available later this week when the full standard specifications are released (the documents will be available on the 3GPP portal). For now, we know it will cover wireless bands from 600MHz all the way up to millimeter wave signals in the 50GHz range. Sprint is making sure everyone knows its 2.5GHz band is included in 5G NR, which makes it the largest holder of sub-6GHz 5G spectrum.
It's up to carriers and hardware makers to get 5G support up and running. Some carriers have already announced intentions to roll out 5G networks in the next year or two, but consumer implementations will take time. Even when we do get 5G hardware, it probably won't live up to the hype right away. 4G was supposed to allow for 100Mbps when moving and 1Gbps when stationary, and that still hasn't happened. 5G is expected to support theoretical speeds in the tens of gigabits per second. It may even become a viable replacement for wireline home internet service.
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[Update: Ajit Pai responds] White House security document proposes a nationalized 5G wireless network




Billions of devices, from phones and tablets to self-driving cars and connected dishwashers, are thirstily awaiting the rise of 5G wireless connectivity, and the big wireless carriers are scrambling to bring these powerful new networks to market. According to documents obtained by Axios, however, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile might be nudged out of the race to 5G—not by an industry competitor, but by the U.S. government.
The National Security Council has circulated a proposal to nationalize the country's 5G wireless capacity into a single network in order to protect U.S. digital infrastructure from foreign security threats and to keep pace with China's rate of wireless network development.
The big wireless carriers would not be entirely left in the dust. If 5G connectivity were nationalized, the carriers would then be able to "rent" access to the network, and then compete over other aspects of their services. Axios reports that the carriers' reactions to the idea have been "mixed," though T-Mobile, being very un-carrier-y, leans more in favor of nationalization due to their desire to see a "level playing field." This assumes that everyone gets charged the same for access, which is by no means guaranteed.
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The proposal also weighs the benefits of allowing the carriers to continue with their own 5G rollouts in order to keep from unnecessarily disrupting the existing market, but the concern is that this path would take too long and cost too much.
A page scanned from the NSC proposal.

The "G" in 5G is for "government"?

There are a lot of hand-wavy elements to this proposal, which is less a detailed plan-of-action than an informed musing on a big idea ("hey guys, what if we..."). It includes some guesswork about how much all this new infrastructure would cost ($200 billion for fiber? Maybe?), as well as speculation as to how this would be deployed. It posits ideas such as giving early preference to rural communities for an assumed "revenue stream" and new "air and space" layers for remote locations and emergency access.
The impact on consumers is addressed primarily in terms of what 5G enables—what the NSC document is calling the "Massive Internet of Things"—but there's no discussion of what consumers will actually be paying for or how. Three years from now, when you go into a carrier store to buy the Samsung Galaxy S12 Plus Quad-Folding VR Holo-Phone, will you also be paying for a data plan, or will it be just another public utility? (All those VR Holo-Phone selfies will eat up a lot of data.)
There is a fixation on China in the proposal, both as a competitor and as the "dominant malicious actor in the Information Domain," and, tellingly, there is no mention of Russia's incursion during the last election. The document makes the odd claim that "telecommunications manufacturers have all but disappeared," and foresees Chinese companies Huawei and ZTE to be the only manufacturers of radios to avoid a decline in the coming years.
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Can this achieve liftoff?

As it says in the proposal, nationalizing American 5G is a "moonshot." It's significant that there's any serious discussion about turning the Information Superhighway (ask your parents) into the National Highway System (ask your grandparents). But just like the highway system, we'd all be relying on the government to keep the network running at peak performance.
It also seems politically infeasible. Republicans would likely revolt over the idea of the nationalization of anything whatsoever, while progressives and Democrats might bristle at the idea of the state having so much more power over Americans' communications than they already do.
And frankly, if the carriers aren't all in favor of nationalization, then it's likely that a majority on the Federal Communications Commission wouldn't be either, and it's the FCC that's calling the shots on wireless spectrum. It's a moonshot that could crash and burn on Ajit Pai's desk.
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We are doing a lot of sprint 2.5’s at work right now. Don’t think any of them are on air yet as they’ve just been put up. But we have about 100 to do. I believe there are 2 other contractors installing as well.
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Sounds pretty damn socialist for the gov't to control the wireless network!

I don't mind the idea, and it could potentially drop rates (potentially). it should give us a much more regular, stable connection. My issues would be two fold:

1. maintenance. Do we leave it up to the states? We see how roads are between states and it would be less than optimal for wireless networks that need to communicate down pipelines crossing state boarders if a state is broke AF and lets the infrastructure decay

2. Big Brother. The government controlling the data transfer infrastructure gives the NSA even more spooky power in recording everything we're doing... at least in regards to wireless communications.
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FCC Commissioner Wants To Free Mid-Band Spectrum For 5G


FCC Commissioner Michael O’Rielly, current leader of Consumers Broadband Radio Service efforts in the United States, announced that he is working on freeing up a large amount of mid-band spectrum, and hopes to have enough up for use in the next two years to create a full 5G network. Specifically, O’Rielly is looking to free up around 150MHz of spectrum, all in the commonly-used 3.5GHz band. This band is already in use in preliminary 5G networks and tests, and lies within the purview of the CBRS. Thus far, neither O’Rielly or the FCC have issued any word on what the plan is to free up this spectrum.

The FCC is reportedly also looking into freeing both licensed and unlicensed spectrum in the 5.9GHz and 6GHz bands, with likewise little insight given into how this will happen. 4.9GHz is also included in the plans, and things are a bit more concrete here; most 4.9GHz spectrum out right now is unlicensed and mostly unused. What is licensed and in active use only accounts for about 3% of what’s available in that band area. This means that the FCC could easily issue licenses for this area without much of any consequence, so long as it stays away from spectrum used for emergency services. Also included in the FCC’s near-future plans is a hard look at cities and states that are blocking off 5G deployment by imposing unreasonable fees on small cell deployment, moving too slowly on legal matters, or otherwise holding things up. If the FCC manages to liberate the planned spectrum, it will have to decide whether to issue wide or narrow geographical licenses, and who to issue those to.
The CBRS has long promised to make it easy for companies to build out IoT and other niche services that will run on and alongside mobile providers’ 5G deployments, and the FCC’s plans for 3.5GHz seem to back that up. Plans to expand spectrum availability in a wider part of the mid-band range, meanwhile, back up O’Rielly’s own assertion that the FCC is looking to prevent other countries from pulling ahead of the United States in 5G adoption and deployment.
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So how about maybe getting LTE to pull the real speeds first? Or was LTE an experiment for 5g? How about some cell towers in mission hills/prairie village? Can’t get any speed or signal in a lot o places. So many dead zones around all over the KC area and for that matter, a lot of dead zones in the USA.

I’m fine with technology progress but it’s ridiculous when I’m in a major metro area and I get 1.5mb down and 700kb up on a Verizon lte tower in olathe with full signal strength. I can name plenty of towers around the metro on Verizon that are like that. LTE promised blazing fast end all be all speeds but we got a tiny fraction of it.
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So how about maybe getting LTE to pull the real speeds first? Or was LTE an experiment for 5g? How about some cell towers in mission hills/prairie village? Can’t get any speed or signal in a lot o places. So many dead zones around all over the KC area and for that matter, a lot of dead zones in the USA.

I’m fine with technology progress but it’s ridiculous when I’m in a major metro area and I get 1.5mb down and 700kb up on a Verizon lte tower in olathe with full signal strength. I can name plenty of towers around the metro on Verizon that are like that. LTE promised blazing fast end all be all speeds but we got a tiny fraction of it.
I don't think it was viewed as an experiment, I also think calling the next iteration of wireless "5G" since they have said it shouldn't even be named that based on 'speed expectations"

When you talk about spotty coverage which carriers? AT&T/VZW/TMO/Sprint?

LTE just like 4G (is based on freqs) and then freqs are assigned to carriers etc.. and they are the only ones allowed to operate within their freq sets ... lots of things come into play for that.
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Mobile World Congress Americas Will Highlight 5G's Potential To Power Self-driving Cars



The future of autonomous vehicles rests on the global rollout of the 5G network. Without reliable hyper-speed connectivity, cars can't talk to one another, advertisers can't stream content straight to your eyeballs, and you certainly can't sit back and download a full-length movie as your car whisks you from Point A to Point B. The 4G (fourth-generation) technology may have enabled the rise of YouTube and mobile video, but 5G is the next frontier for the automotive industry, enabling the artificial intelligence, entertainment and infrastructure powering self-driving cars.
When the second annual Mobile World Congress Americas comes to the Los Angeles Convention Center September 12 through 14, automakers will showcase the next-generation cellular network’s potential to bring self-driving cars to reality.

Forbes sat down with Reed Peterson, head of Mobile World Congress Americas, in Los Angeles to discuss why autonomous vehicles need a 5G network, the barriers to delivering it, and when it might arrive.
Why is the rollout of 5G important to developing autonomous vehicles?

I think 5G is going to be a game changer. It changes the speed, the latency, and the availability of the connection. When things went from 2G to 3G, nobody could have envisioned a world where instead of just texting or using your voice, you're suddenly using data for all different purposes. I think the transition from 4G to 5G is going to be similar. The things that you're going to be doing on that device, you can't even contemplate now. From an automotive perspective, it opens up a completely different world. Let’s say you're in your car, and you want to watch Netflix but it takes a couple of minutes to download. With 5G, it will be instantaneous, anywhere from 20 times to 1,000 times faster than 4G networks. The 5G network can be much more targeted and specific.

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Nokia, T-Mobile Celebrate First U.S. Bidirectional 5G Test


Nokia and T-Mobile on Thursday celebrated the successful completion of the country’s first bi-directional 5G transmission based on a 3GPP-compliant 5G New Radio system. The test that led to the achievement took place in T-Mobile’s Bellevue, Washington-lab, having leveraged Nokia-made network equipment communicating in the 28GHz band and a “user equipment simulator” which mimicked smartphone data traffic. The significance of the milestone stems from the fact that Nokia and T-Mobile demonstrated a 5G solution based on the latest wireless technologies which can already handle mobile traffic and will hence be part of the wireless carrier’s commercial network.

The 5G transmission was relayed with Nokia’s AirScale radio and baseband, Cloud RAN with 3GPP-compliant software, and AirFrame server. The same platform was previously tested by T-Mobile in a variety of other scenarios and is expected to continue serving as a backbone of the company’s 5G experiments. T-Mobile is presently targeting early 2019 for the beginning of its commercial 5G deployment, having previously pledged to offer nationwide coverage by 2020. Its wireless plans changed following the announcement of its proposed merger with Sprint as the duo is now claiming it can only be competitive in the 5G space if allowed to combine, though both are still pursuing individual deployment with the hope that stateside regulators will greenlight the consolidation by the end of the first half of 2019, a timeline that many industry analysts deem optimistic and premature.
The fifth generation of mobile networks should deliver an improvement in wireless speeds, latencies, and capacities that’s significant to the point of enabling entirely new technologies and businesses, hence being expected to lead to job creation and large-scale economic growth. Augmented and virtual reality systems, 4K game streaming, and new Internet of Things applications are just some 5G use cases that are likely to change a broad range of industries in the future.
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