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How Marvel Can Bring The Fantastic Four Into The MCU






With the big news at the moment being the potential purchase of Fox by Disney, it’s pretty obvious that fans like us are thinking primarily about the Marvel properties coming back under one banner. Both the X Men and Fantastic Four universes would then be good to go for the MCU if they choose to use them, surely they would?
The only wrinkle in the plan could be that Constantin apparently actually still (at least partially) owns rights on Fantastic Four and were in partnership with Fox. We would hope that does not prove a massive hurdle for the House of Mouse, but we’ll have to wait and see.
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But let’s, for a moment, assume that they will head over to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. How would it accomplish that, and how could the MCU possibly justify the Fantastic Four not being around?
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We at LRM are fans too and we talk about the dreams we have and the movie ideas we wish they would make. Well, I have been dreaming up this Fantastic Four idea in my head for years and we thought it would be fun to share a bird’s eye view of it for your readers, also we’d love to hear your own ideas and thoughts for re-introducing these characters back into the MCU.
We have no inside knowledge here, it is just a bit of fun.
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Anyway here is a summary of LRM‘s Fantastic Four pitch. Feel free to ridicule it as you wish, we won’t be precious. I have, I must admit, written a full treatment for this movie, but I won’t bore you all with the minute details.
The key thing I always wanted to look at with the Fantastic Four is going back to those early comics and how the family dynamics were so different back then from what we would consider the norm in 2017.
Fantastic Four: Family Out Of Time



We would set the movie initially in the late ’60s. The Fantastic Fourare already established in secret working for SHIELD and they are intercepting a package bound for Latveria and meant for one Dr Victor Von Doom. The period would allow Marvel to have some fun exploring the origin of these characters as they were in the comics and modernising them for the 21st Century as part of the movies character arcs.It also explains their absence from the MCU so far.
Explore the family dynamics as they would have been in the ’60s. Reed taking Sue for granted, Sue feeling repressed and undervalued as a woman in those days, Ben having to stay hidden away at all time. Johnny can be cocky and cool, but for the ’60s, which is not very cool in the modern day times.
Doom can be a former friend and colleague who was responsible for accident in space. This could be done as a flashback and with Dooms origin alongside the Fantastic Four it would also allow them to introduce this threat into the MCU organically.
Don’t Mess Up Dr Doom!


Dr Doom is one of Marvel’s aces in the hole, probably their most recognisable and complex villain. Dr Doom was the Darth Vader of the comics and a threat to all Marvel heroes at times. Fox dropped the ball on him big time (more than once) and this could be the chance for Marvel to really explore a villain who can keep showing up in other stories.
Give him a great backstory! After all, Marvel do need more compelling villains in the MCU. Doom would not be a one and done kind of villain, but a growing threat.
Here is a backstory idea that’s keeping with his comic heritage. Doom is heir to the royal throne in Latveria, which neighbours Sokovia (MCU). Latveria went through a Military Coup in the 1930’s where his parents were killed as part of the revolution, Victor was smuggled by loyalists to America where he grew up. Doom genuinely cares for his people and truly believes the only way to save them from poverty and war is to finance another revolution to establish himself as the Monarch once more. Doom would aim to be a benevolent dictator and make Latveria strong enough to repel any invasions or internal coup’s again.
Motivations

Doom should not be shown as a true sociopath. He does care for people, but he just thinks that he is the person best suited to run things and distrusts politicians and democracy due to the corruption he witnessed in America. Doom and Richards while both geniuses have very different views about what to do with the discoveries they made. Victor wanted to profit from it and use the money to free his people, Reed was much more altruistic and wanted to give the world their knowledge and let them do with it as they pleased. Initially friends they became opposed to one another’s world views. Doom also thinks that Reed doesn’t deserve Sue and doesn’t treat her with the respect she deserves. That brings in that personal connection to The Fantastic Four from the comics.
To The Present & Into The Modern MCU!


To get the team back into the modern world, we could use the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) as a MacGuffin. It links in with the Dr Strange movie, and provides a natural way for the team to suddenly appear in 2020 with Dr Doom, who would be using it for his own plans back in the ’60s. You could even have a scene where The Ancient One appears through a portal and picks it up, after they have been sent through time and again linking them into the existing universe.
The family reappear in 2020 and have to learn to adjust to the modern world of the MCU. Reed has his views changed through seeing what the world has done with scientific discoveries. Sue learns about a world where she can finally come out of her shell, and the two need to explore this change in their relationship. Johnny feels like an old man out of touch with the modern world. Ben initially thinks that this world will be far more accepting of his condition, and then discovers people are still as prejudiced as they were….till he meets Alicia.
Doom has also been transported forwards through time, though 10 years prior to the Fantastic Four. The Fantastic Four find him already established as ruler of Latveria with Iron Man-like drones defending his country’s borders that he calls Doom Bots. This is important because it allows Dr Doom a head start to have been building up his power base, in order that he be a credible threat to any MCU hero.
Doom attacks The Avengers unexpectedly and the Fantastic Four provide assistance, this shows that Doom is confident enough to combat the entire Avengers if need be, though his motives remain hidden. It also brings in other MCU character for the Fantastic Four to befriend and instantly puts Doom on the radar of The Avengers.
The team help to repel Doom and find their place in this modern world, they decline offer of joining The Avengers, because Reed wants to use his scientific discoveries to finally change the world for the better and his friends want to help him. They are a family after all and it still enables them to team up as Marvel wish. Throw in a couple of Easter Eggs showing where they might end up, like The Negative Zone or Atlantis.
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Mid-Credit Scene

Dr Doom we see has been testing the various strengths and weakness of the Avengers, he knows now that he must get the help of the Fantastic Four. They are the only heroes he can really trust, as they are the only ones he can be 100% sure are not Skrull imposters!!
Post-Credits Scene

We see an alien planet as the life force is sucked from it, leaving it a barren rock, a voice commands his Herald to find a new world to feed on as Silver Surfer flies across past the camera. That could be an event to match Avengers: Infinity War.
Do you like this idea of a family out of time? What would you do instead, if you were running Marvel? Even if this deal does not happen (We think that’s unlikely), they can’t stop us fans from dreaming, right?
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Fantastic Four Director Wants To Erase The 2015 Movie






Filmmaker Josh Trank says he would "gladly" donate to a GoFundMe campaign to erase his infamous Fantastic Four movie reboot from existence - if such a campaign were possible, of course.


Fantastic Four was the source of constant rumors about behind-the-scenes problems throughout the entirety of its production, with Trank being at the center of many of the issues that were said to plague the film. The rumors included conflicts on the set between Trank and Miles Teller and Trank's supposed behavior costing him the director's chair of the Star Wars anthology film about Boba Fett. The resulting movie was so widely derided that it won the Razzie for "Worst Picture" of 2015 and the actors who have worked on the film have been outspoken about its shortcomings.


Trank has also been vocal about his dislike for Fantastic Four, due to how his vision for the story was altered by executive veto and how his version of the movie would have been far superior if he had been allowed to make the movie that he had signed on for. Trank recently made a comment on Twitter that was responding to a post about a Kickstarter that wants to remove the rat from the end of The Departed, where he defended Martin Scorsese's choice to use the rat in the film. When another Twitter user made a joke about Trank following their GoFundMe to erase the Fantastic Four movie from existence, Trank responded accordingly.





Twitterisn't the only place where Josh Trank has publically disavowed his association with Fantastic Four, as he had previously redacted the movie from his Instagram page, leaving only a line of asterisks in place of the original name.
The Fantastic Four might be the first family of Marvel Comics, but they have had terrible luck when it comes to screen adaptations, with the first Fantastic Four movie existing only to keep hold of a license agreement, while the two Fantastic Four movies from the mid-'00s were criticized for their poor quality and for failing to launch the characters into mainstream success in the same way that the Spider-Man and X-Men movies had done during the same time period.

The Disney-Fox deal is due to be completed in 2019, which means that it will be possible for the Fantastic Four to enter the MCU and that the burden of making a good movie based on the team will fall to Kevin Feige - assuming that the higher-ups at Disney won't just ignore the team altogether.
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Unused Fantastic Four Movie Script Details Revealed



It took 20th Century Fox over a decade, and despite three separate attempts to make it work, the studio just couldn't crack the Fantastic Four franchise. The latest misstep came in 2015 when director Josh Trank attempted to tackle the property in a widely lambasted film plagued with behind the scenes controversy. But it almost didn't go down that way, according to screenwriter Zack Stentz.
While appearing on Kevin Smith's Fatman Beyond podcast, Stentz revealed that he was originally brought on to handle the script for Trank's movie, but that Trank himself had no idea Stentz was involved.


"The other thing that's never going to happen is the version that [Ashley Miller] and I did of the Fantastic Four," Stentz said on the show. "Josh Trank, who ended up doing the Fantastic Four that we saw in the theaters, we were supposed to be writing the script for him but nobody told him that we were doing it. So, when he officially signed on he was like, 'Why are you imposing these other writers on me? I want to use my own writer. I wanna do my own script.' And he did his version instead."


Stentz added, "It was one of those hammer blows to our career at the time, even though we had gotten paid, because I was so freakin' proud of that script. It was how the Fantastic Four were almost the Fantastic Five except a young man named Victor von Doom was just too damaged and f---ed up to be part of them. It was a script I was very proud of. Josh Trank didn't wanna do it."
Stentz went on to explain that he and Trank have since buried the hatchet over the writer's negative comments. He also revealed that he wrote a secret project for Fox, a crossover of many of their popular Marvel characters including Deadpool, the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, and Daredevil.


"[Ashley Miller] and I, when we were working at Fox and we were working on X-Men: First Class, we did a secret movie for them that, I can't tell you what the plot was, but I can tell you that it used all of the characters, all of the Marvel characters that Fox had at the time in 2011. It used the X-Men. It used the Fantastic Four. It used Daredevil. It used Deadpool. Daredevil was still at Fox at the time. We almost had Paul Greengrass directing it which would've been so cool but he had another project to do instead. It didn't end up going but it was a script I was really proud of and it would've been really good."
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