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What are you guys spinning these days? Any vinyl guys here?

My budget is about $400.00. I'm open to a $500 budget if the right vintage turntable comes along.

Requirements (in order of importance):

1) Belt Drive
2) Wooden base (red wood or gun stock type stain/coloration)
3) Everything Manual other than departure. (Want to have the ease of mind that it will return everytime with worry).
4) Speed: 33 1/3 and 45
5) Power 120V
6) Output: 2.5 mV/3 dB, 1 kHz at 13/32 ? (3.54 cm) /Sec.


Got my eye on this guy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RESTORED-TEC...oAAOSw-kdX0Vfv
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The fact that I used to be a dj, why do you like belt drive over direct drive? Belt drive is not consistent in speed. I still have my pair of technics 1200's from the early 90's
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The fact that I used to be a dj, why do you like belt drive over direct drive? Belt drive is not consistent in speed. I still have my pair of technics 1200's from the early 90's
Belt Drive is simpler in terms of how many moving parts and what can or cannot go wrong. Whenever dealing with vintage electronics I like knowing that it’s as simple as can be.

Direct drive tables have gotten better recently but that wasn't the case prior to the early 2000’s.

Also, belt drive is only inconsistent in speed if the belt is worn. If it's a new belt or adjusted properly it’s just as accurate. From my experience the belt usually has a life span. It doesn’t usually slowly become inconsistent. Usually I’ll just notice that it decided to quit randomly one day, is off and I’ll replace it. Starting and stoping the table wears the belt - simply spinning isn't wearing it at all because of momentum and whatnot. Call me crazy but I honestly think keeping the lid shut whenever possible extends the life of the belt - other than keeping everything dust free of course.

Being a DJ though you obviously stop and start the table more than I ever would so yeah, direct drive is probably the way to go. But for home audio use and for guys who like vintage stuff belt drive would be the direction I'd assume most would go.

Got any pics of your table?
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I guess I don't have anything to add but I listen to more records than most audiophiles (every night for years) and I couldn't really tell you the difference between my $100 LP60 and $300 LP120 with $100 cartridge. I even have had them wired into my 1950s Magnavox console in place of the original record player it contained that is missing pieces. They both sound phenomenal. If you are going for looks then good luck on finding the wooden one- if it's for sound I personally don't think anything makes a difference past the $100 price point, at least not enough to matter to me or that I even really notice.
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I guess I don't have anything to add but I listen to more records than most audiophiles (every night for years) and I couldn't really tell you the difference between my $100 LP60 and $300 LP120 with $100 cartridge. I even have had them wired into my 1950s Magnavox console in place of the original record player it contained that is missing pieces. They both sound phenomenal. If you are going for looks then good luck on finding the wooden one- if it's for sound I personally don't think anything makes a difference past the $100 price point, at least not enough to matter to me or that I even really notice.
The table alone has little to do with sound quality but they do impact it. Some high end turntables have built in pre-amps which make a huge difference with output. Some turntable overall weight can be over 24 pounds. The higher the weight the less distortion you'll hear. You won't be able to notice it unless you listened to your table vs. a higher end table but the difference can be drastic.

Further, depending on the model and options of the table - there can be quite the difference in price. Speed (rotational; speed settings), running voltage, manual departure of the arm vs. automatic, arrival (either manual or automatic of the arm), articulation of the stylus, rotation of the stylus, manual descending vs. automatic are all common options.

Lower end turntables will not have all of these.

Finally, the stylus makes the biggest difference. I think the stylus alone on my own Denon costs $225 retail. Some can be well over the $400+ mark. A portion of that price is due to the estimated life span (durability). The material of the stylus also can be a contributing factor and finally the design of the stylus. The majority of high end stylus will not fit on low end arms either.

High end stylus fit perfectly in to your vinyl with lower end stylus actually carving their own groove (path in you vinyl over time) which is not what you want.

Of course quality, appearance and design also plays a role as well.
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Video URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47psqXMB6jo

This is a video of the exact turntable I'm hoping to replace.
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