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From things I've read online, it seems more people are preferring the Eris over the Droid after getting hands-on with both devices.

edit: And HTC needs to step it up getting 2.0 out with the Sense UI. I feel like I'm stuck in the dark ages down here.
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From things I've read online, it seems more people are preferring the Eris over the Droid after getting hands-on with both devices.

edit: And HTC needs to step it up getting 2.0 out with the Sense UI. I feel like I'm stuck in the dark ages down here.
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Why the Droid won't save Motorola
Wall Street's excited about Motorola for the first time in awhile thanks to new smartphones. But the stock's more than doubled this year. It's time to hang up.


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Motorola is obviously hoping that, to twist a famous Obi-Wan Kenobi quote from "Star Wars," its heavily hyped new phone is the Droid people are looking for.

In case you weren't watching any of the World Series (Yay Yanks!) you may have missed the massive marketing blitz that Motorola (MOT, Fortune 500) has launched for its Droid smartphone, which officially goes on sale on Friday.

The Droid is meant to be Motorola's answer to Apple's (AAPL, Fortune 500) iPhone. Verizon Wireless (co-owned by Verizon (VZ, Fortune 500) and Vodafone) will be selling the phone, which is powered by Google's (GOOG, Fortune 500) Android operating system.

The reviews for Droid that have trickled in so far have been fairly decent. But Wall Street seems extremely excited about the Droid's prospects. Shares of Motorola, which was one of the hardest hit stocks in the S&P 500 last year, have more than doubled so far this year.

So can Droid live up to its promise?

Make no mistake. Motorola needs Droid to be a huge hit. It's been a long time since the company had a phone that was considered cool and relevant. The Razr was released in 2004, which might as well be the Paleozoic era in the world of gadgets.

And even though Motorola's stock has rebounded this year as the company has returned to profitability, earnings in the past two quarters have been fueled largely by cost cutting.

Last week, Motorola posted a surprise profit for the second consecutive quarter and also raised its earnings guidance for the fourth quarter. But sales fell 27% in the third quarter from the same period a year ago. Analysts are forecasting a 16% drop in sales for the fourth quarter as well.

Mark Sue, an analyst with RBC Capital Markets, wrote in a recent research report though that he is encouraged by Motorola's big push into smartphones.

He wrote that the company is "reconnecting with carriers who are eager for something different." Sue added that the Droid and other new smartphones it plans to introduce, such as the Cliq with T-Mobile, could help Motorola's mobile devices unit get back into the black by late 2010.Considering that the company's cell phone unit has suffered a string of operating losses that stretches back to the first quarter of 2007, a profitable quarter can not come too soon -- especially if the company wants to revisit the idea of spinning of its handset division from the rest of Motorola (Motorola also sells cable set-top boxes and communications equipment for businesses.)

But as a result of the stock's surge, Motorola now trades at about 28 times earnings estimates for 2010. By way of comparison, smartphone rivals Nokia (NOK) and BlackBerry maker Research in Motion (RIMM) each trade at only about 12 times estimated profits for 2010. Both companies have substantially higher market shares than Motorola.

Apple, which arguably deserves a premium to all of its competitors, is actually trading at a discount to Motorola. Its stock is valued at about 24 times calendar 2010 earnings estimates. (Apple's fiscal year ends in September while Motorola's ends in December so I used estimates for the calendar year in order to have an, uh, apples-to-apples comparison.)

Sure, Motorola may look cheap when looking at other valuation measures. Sue points out that Motorola's stock is trading well below its peers on a price-to-sales basis. But now that Motorola is profitable again, it seems fair to compare it to its rivals using earnings, not revenue.

And the jury's still out on just how successful the Droid and other Motorola phones will be.

Samuel Wilson, an analyst with JMP Securities, said that Motorola's reliance on Google could backfire. Wilson said that one reason Apple and RIMM have been able to do as well as they have is because they don't have to compromise.

"The problem with Android phones is this: How do you gain a competitive advantage when you rely on somebody else for a key piece of the system?" Wilson said. "Every successful smartphone vendor controls the hardware and software."

Sue conceded that competition is going to be tough and that Motorola also has to convince consumers to forget some of Motorola's flops from the past, such as the widely panned Rokr.

He wrote that although it's good news that Motorola has finally ended years of "bad habits of coloring products pink and neglecting the user interface," it's not going to be easy for the company to make a huge splash in the latest round of phone wars.

"It's a crowded space for smartphones, and consumer fickleness will mean short product cycles and Jabba the Hut like competition," he wrote.

That means that Motorola probably deserves to trade at a discount to the likes of Apple, RIMM and Nokia until it can prove that the Droid can be a huge hit. And Wall Street may be expecting the impossible.

"Expectations have radically changed for the company. At $4 a share, there were questions about whether Motorola was solvent," Wilson said. "At $9 a share, investors are expecting growth, but we have a wait and see attitude. The Street believes Droid is the new Razr and I don't think that is going to happen."
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Upgrade Path to Android 2.0 Uncertain

With this week's release of Verizon Wireless' Droid phone comes the first real test of the potential for fragmentation with Android.

The Droid will be the first phone to run Android 2.0. After it goes on sale Friday, there will be Android phones on the market running three different versions of the OS.

But operators and hardware manufacturers currently selling Android phones are coy about whether their devices will be upgraded to the new OS. If some phones continue to run old versions, issues could arise with application compatibility across the different OS versions.

Motorola, whose Cliq runs Android version 1.5, would not specifically say if users of that phone would be offered the 2.0 upgrade. "Cliq with Motoblur can be upgraded over-the-air and will evolve to support how people's needs change. However, Motorola hasn't announced any updates at this time," a representative with Motorola's public relations firm said.

Google gave an equally vague answer to questions about which phones might be upgraded and if any of them had hardware limitations that might prevent an upgrade. "Because Android is open source, all software updates we release are available for carriers and handset makers to take and update their current or future Android-powered devices," Katie Watson, a Google spokeswoman said via e-mail. She also pointed out that the updated OS hasn't been released so no devices can be updated yet.

T-Mobile said it is coordinating with Google to deliver Android 2.0, but it did not address specific questions about which Android phones it plans to update.

Samsung declined to comment about whether the Moment will be upgraded to Android 2.0. Most Android phones, except the Cliq, run version 1.6.

Hardware limitations could decide which phones get the update, said Carl Howe, an analyst with Yankee Group. "As systems get upgraded, they tend to want more memory," he said.

The HTC G1, the first Android phone on the market, has 192MB of RAM and 256MB of Flash ROM. Most of the other phones, including the MyTouch, Cliq and Droid, have 512MB Flash ROM, Howe said. Most, except for the MyTouch 3G, have 256MB or 288MB of RAM, he said.

Howe believes that the G1 will be upgradeable to Android 2.0 and pointed to an online report showing a developer who has ported the OS -- based only on the SDK (software developer's kit), not an official release -- to the G1.

"It will boot and run apps, the only question is, will you be happy with it," Howe said.

He suspects that the G1 will get the update as long as the user experience is good. "If I were [T-Mobile], I'd be testing it and seeing what the experience is like," he said.

Another analyst wondered about the effect custom user interfaces might have on the upgrade process. "If you're selling a phone like the Hero where there was work done by HTC, it's not clear if you can upgrade the OS without also upgrading HTC Sense on top of it," said Avi Greengart, an analyst with Current Analysis.

HTC built the Sense user interface on top of Android and it runs on the Hero, a phone sold by Sprint. Motorola similarly built an application called Motoblur used by the Cliq. Because those user interfaces might have to be updated along with upgrades of the OSes, Greengart wonders if the phones with the "vanilla software," meaning the OS without any added enhancements, will get updates faster.

Developers of the custom user interfaces may have to update their software, after the OS comes out, and would likely push the two updates out together, Howe said.

Until now, there have been few Android phones on the market so the differences between them didn't have much of an effect on end users. But as more and more phones hit the market, their differences become more apparent. They have different screen sizes and resolutions and different hardware components like trackballs.

In addition, Android 2.0 supports multitouch, even though Verizon's Droid doesn't use it.

If developers write applications that "obey all the rules and have no undocumented features and they're careful, it will work fine," Howe said. "But that's a lot of caveats. Programmers have been known to take shortcuts."

That means there is a chance that some applications in the Android Market, which is shared across all phones, may not work well on some devices.

"This is the first go around as to whether it's an issue. If there's a big flap about it, people will scramble and try to make things better," Howe said.

"It's certainly dangerous. The great thing about Android is this is a boon for handset manufacturers because they have ultimate flexibility. But the downside is, as somebody innovates, the platforms tend to diverge and you have to worry about application compatibility," he said.

The potential issue highlights the benefits to Apple's strategy with the iPhone. "It's one of Apple's great advantages," Howe said. "There's one screen size and one interaction mode. You write once and it runs pretty much on everything. That's not true on Android."
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Should Palm Drop WebOS for Android?

With the explosion of interest in the Android Operating System and the new influx of Android powered devices could it already be too late for WebOS to catch up? It is not without precedence for Palm to open up their devices to other operating systems (they have let Windows Mobile on earlier devices) – so why not do the same thing with Android?

Right now developers are faced with the choice to produce their applications for either the App Store, the Android Market, WebOS Market or for the Blackberry Market – at least so far as who to produce their application for first before potentially porting it over to another store. Obviously the App store has been given a head start, but with the controls Apple has placed on their market and with the continuing saturation of their market, more and more developers are turning their sights to the quickly growing Android OS. With the App Store and the Android Market dominating, WebOS appears to have become the loser in this equation. The solution would be to use their solid hardware but add Android to their devices.
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Google: “ISO Developers for App2SD”

You know that pesky “apps can’t install to SD card” problem you’re having to root your way around?

*Ahem, XDA*… Check this out:


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The actual thread is located here: http://groups.google.com/group/andro...0709c157451cd9

Basically, if implemented, it will do the following;
1) totally obsolete current hacker apps2sd approaches by allowing actual sdcard removal from device.
2) ultimately ship with devices stock (when in a state where it is easy to use, stable, and at least as secure for non-root users as internal storage currently is).
3) keep application data on the same device as the actual application with no side-effects (like internal apps being broken while waiting for second partition to mount).
4) allow MULTIPLE sdcards containing apps to be swapped on the same device.
5) allow sdcard containing apps to be swapped between DIFFERENT devices.

Note: 4 and 5 are not in the initial implementation, first proof of concept and working system, then enhancement with additional features. 4 and 5 are not requirements for inclusion in AOSP, but they are cool features that ultimately should be implemented.

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Several good developers, web storage w/source/patch management, etc.
Anyone interested, please read the thread to get an idea of the current state of thought, and please don’t pollute that thread with nonsense. There is a current state of organization, and though not set in stone, it should be considered as NOT open for major architectural changes (i.e., the google engineers don’t have any major problems with the proposal that we can’t work through). Minor glitches and implementation details will be handled along the way. If you must pollute a thread with nonsense, use this one.”
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Novosoft Releases Handy Backup For Android

Some of you may be familiar with the company Novosoft. Well, they have a product called Handy Backup which boasts a fair number of features. Encryption, on the fly compression, image backups, etc. You can read more about that if you like on their site. But what is relevant to US is that today they announced Handy Backup for Android. An excerpt:

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“While the application may look simple at the first sight, we actually developed the same architecture that we have in desktop version of Handy Backup,” said Mr. Prichalov. “Now it will be easy for us to extend the functionality with support for more data, various Android applications, capability to back up to network and FTP locations, and much more – just the way you can back up your PC with Handy Backup.”

Handy Backup for Android is free of charge and can be downloaded directly on your phone from the Android Market.
So as stated above – here is the official site for Handy Backup for Android. You can read more about it there but here’s a preview for ya:

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At the moment, we are finishing a module that will allow users to back up data to FTP servers. Handy Backup’s architecture makes creation of such modules relatively easy and fast task!

Below is the list of other features related to Android backup that we are going to create in the nearest future:

* Absolutely automatic backup. You will be able to schedule your Android backup tasks to take place automatically, for example each evening at midnight. To back up Android data to PC you will only need to make them see each other in the network.
* Backup compression and encryption. If your phone’s memory card contains data that takes a lot of space, or that you want to limit access to, you’ll be able to enable ZIP backup compression or backup encryption.
* Backup restoration options. At present, restoration procedure deletes all new contacts that appeared since the backup.
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a2sd will become obsolete with the new handsets coming out althoug i do digg the idea of a2sd on multiple phones EG taking my sd card with sweet apps and playing them on my friends android phone.

Im also getting quite sick of XDGAY and the freaking dumb n00bs that get on there that and stericson is being a nazi about warez and roms....wich im a lazy bum and dont feel like unzipping a rom adding my apps and resigning *still on a early RUU sense release i built *

there was an idea floating around for a single partition with a virtual filesystem but cyanogen said it was too slow to work.

The only reason i still use a2sd on my magic is because im sick of reinstalling all my apps after a flash and i flash my phone at least 5 times a day.

if your interested in android news man follow a couple of the fellow developers twitters

twitter.com/twistedumbrella
twitter.com/barakinflorida
twitter.com/cyangoen
twitter.com/eugene373
twitter.com/mlign
twitter.com/Site_unscene
twitter.com/maxisma


these are the currently most active devs in the ROMS that i follow and build on (sense UI based roms and 2.0 |eclair| and Sholes |moto droid| )


as for sense on 2.0 the tattoo port me jubeh eugene373 qteknology and twistedumbrella worked on is FAST and its only 1.6 firmware and it will put ANY sense build in the dirt in means of speed (the build just happens to have some visual bugs due to screen differences and nobody wants to spend 2 weeks of spare time resizing every png in the build)

cant wait for 2.0 to come out with sense (although im REALLY tired of sense by now haha)

as for the sholes ports floating around kinda sucks on my magic (but its a mash of emu dump of 2.0 and sholes so its not ready yet no bt wifi or gps or sound)


im glad to see local people into the android scene
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Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You

The Droid hits the streets today. After all of the hype around Verizon's marketing efforts, and generally favorable reviews of the Motorola Droid, users that rush out to get the new device may be in for a shock. The Droid does tethering (or at least it will very soon), but the cost will surprise people.

Verizon may squash the potential success of the Droid with oppressive pricing plansAt first glance, and based on initial reviews, the Droid seems to be a very capable device. It may or may not be an 'iPhone-killer', but it certainly seems to be the best phone Verizon has to offer as of today. The Android 2.0-based device will cost users $199.99 with a 2-year contract, with an additional $30 per month for the mandatory data plan to go with it.

That $30 a month buys you an 'unlimited' data plan that has a monthly cap of 5Gb. Clearly, we are using different dictionaries to define 'unlimited'. Something got lost in translation somewhere.

Droid users will soon be able to use the device to tether though, something the iPhone is not capable of. Tethering allows the mobile device and its data connection to be used as an Internet connection for another system like a laptop. Verizon has confirmed that tethering will cost you though--an additional $30 per month for an additional unlimited data plan that is also limited to 5Gb. So, if you want tethering you will pay $60 above and beyond the monthly contract for service for an 'unlimited' 10Gb of data per month.

Verizon isn't stopping there with the sticker shock either. It also announced that as of November 15 the early termination fee will be doubled for high-end devices like smartphones (a.k.a. the Droid). Users who cancel out of the agreement before the two years are up will be hit with a $350 bill.

But wait, there's more! That $30 a month data plan grants you the ability to use an 'unlimited' 5Gb of data...as long as that data doesn't come from a Microsoft Exchange email server. If you want the privilege of connecting with an Exchange email account you have to pay $45 a month for the 5Gb of unlimited data.

Verizon points out the many things lacking in the iPhone in the iDon't ad campaign. But, AT&T users can get an iPhone starting at $99 with a 2-year contract and a $30 per month data plan. The iPhone doesn't have tethering and AT&T hasn't announced any intention to add it any time soon. But, the $30 a month unlimited data plan actually doesn't have a limit (go figure).

Google has developed a capable operating system platform with Android. Motorola has built a solid device around that operating system with the Droid. The Verizon marketing department has captured the attention of the public and created a buzz with the 'There's a Map for That' and 'iDon't' ad campaigns.

All of those efforts combined point to a successful device launch capable of going head-to-head with AT&T and the Apple iPhone. But, Verizon seems to be doing everything it can to make the Droid as unappealing as possible by nickel and diming customers so that actually using it is not cost-effective.
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Free Adobe Photoshop App for Android

Photoshop! On Android! Adobe's free Photoshop app for Android is surprisingly just as slick as the iPhone's though it's missing all of the special effects, focusing on basics like saturation, exposure and cropping.Basics are fine—and we like what it does there—so our real gripe is that there's no adjustment for white balance, which is notoriously shitty on the G1. But hey, it's free in the Android Market right now.
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Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You

The Droid hits the streets today. After all of the hype around Verizon's marketing efforts, and generally favorable reviews of the Motorola Droid, users that rush out to get the new device may be in for a shock. The Droid does tethering (or at least it will very soon), but the cost will surprise people.

Verizon may squash the potential success of the Droid with oppressive pricing plansAt first glance, and based on initial reviews, the Droid seems to be a very capable device. It may or may not be an 'iPhone-killer', but it certainly seems to be the best phone Verizon has to offer as of today. The Android 2.0-based device will cost users $199.99 with a 2-year contract, with an additional $30 per month for the mandatory data plan to go with it.

That $30 a month buys you an 'unlimited' data plan that has a monthly cap of 5Gb. Clearly, we are using different dictionaries to define 'unlimited'. Something got lost in translation somewhere.

Droid users will soon be able to use the device to tether though, something the iPhone is not capable of. Tethering allows the mobile device and its data connection to be used as an Internet connection for another system like a laptop. Verizon has confirmed that tethering will cost you though--an additional $30 per month for an additional unlimited data plan that is also limited to 5Gb. So, if you want tethering you will pay $60 above and beyond the monthly contract for service for an 'unlimited' 10Gb of data per month.

Verizon isn't stopping there with the sticker shock either. It also announced that as of November 15 the early termination fee will be doubled for high-end devices like smartphones (a.k.a. the Droid). Users who cancel out of the agreement before the two years are up will be hit with a $350 bill.

But wait, there's more! That $30 a month data plan grants you the ability to use an 'unlimited' 5Gb of data...as long as that data doesn't come from a Microsoft Exchange email server. If you want the privilege of connecting with an Exchange email account you have to pay $45 a month for the 5Gb of unlimited data.

Verizon points out the many things lacking in the iPhone in the iDon't ad campaign. But, AT&T users can get an iPhone starting at $99 with a 2-year contract and a $30 per month data plan. The iPhone doesn't have tethering and AT&T hasn't announced any intention to add it any time soon. But, the $30 a month unlimited data plan actually doesn't have a limit (go figure).

Google has developed a capable operating system platform with Android. Motorola has built a solid device around that operating system with the Droid. The Verizon marketing department has captured the attention of the public and created a buzz with the 'There's a Map for That' and 'iDon't' ad campaigns.

All of those efforts combined point to a successful device launch capable of going head-to-head with AT&T and the Apple iPhone. But, Verizon seems to be doing everything it can to make the Droid as unappealing as possible by nickel and diming customers so that actually using it is not cost-effective.

Wow that is effin sad. I looked at the droid phone for verizon yesterday before they hit the streets and it looked awesome! i wanted to buy one but i knew there would be a hefty price tag but i didn't realize that if you want all the capable features of the phone that u would have to pay out the ass for them.
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Wow that is effin sad. I looked at the droid phone for verizon yesterday before they hit the streets and it looked awesome! i wanted to buy one but i knew there would be a hefty price tag but i didn't realize that if you want all the capable features of the phone that u would have to pay out the ass for them.
you make it sound like other phones just give you shit, which isn't the case..great argument
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i'm just saying that there are better smart phones out there right now that actually give you unlimited data and not have a 5gb cap. I have the motorola 9Qc and i like it, but with a cracked screen i kind of wanted another smart phone but i don't want to pay extra a month for features on a new phone. I can connect my phone to my laptop via usb cord and access the internet but i don't have to pay extra for that
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i'm just saying that there are better smart phones out there right now that actually give you unlimited data and not have a 5gb cap. I have the motorola 9Qc and i like it, but with a cracked screen i kind of wanted another smart phone but i don't want to pay extra a month for features on a new phone. I can connect my phone to my laptop via usb cord and access the internet but i don't have to pay extra for that
the term unlimited is not always what it says
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Google changes direction with Android Open Source Project

Everyone knows that Android is open source, right? Well that depends on who you talk with and their exact definition of open source. Some might claim Android is fully open and others might refer to it as fauxpen source.

Google originally created the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) so that the community had full visibility into platform evolution and decision-making. This allowed anyone who was interested in exploring and contributing to Android to use the Android Open Source Project resources.

A lot has changed between the release of Android 1.0 to 2.0. This is evident in recent changes that were made to the project roles page. In order to see the changes that were made, we must compare a cached page with the current page.




Do a Google search for the project roles page and click "cached".

The following sections were removed.

The Android Open Source Project has been structured to ensure that:

* The community has full visibility into platform evolution and decision-making.
* Contributions are recognized and rewarded.
* Android achieves commercial relevance.

The Core Technical Team is responsible for the following:


* Prepare roadmaps for Android open source releases.
* Approve the set up of new projects and select Project Leads as needed.
* Be the public face for the Android Open Source Project.

Google also removed a section near the bottom that listed the requirements of becoming a member for the Core Technical Team.
What does this mean?

I don’t claim to be an expert on open source development, but I will do my best to explain the situation based on the information I have gathered. (If someone wants to step in correct me, I welcome your input.)

From what I can tell, Android is not a community project in the sense that most other open source projects operate. Android (as I see it) is totally controlled and managed by Google.

Instead of everyday members of the “community” driving the platform, you have certain members of the OHA (Open Handset Alliance) like HTC and Motorola who make significant contributions. We know this based on recent statements from Motorola executives that told us their engineers were working closely with Google on Android 2.0.

Is it necessarily a bad thing that Google is the primary driver of Android? Not at all. Without Google, Android would be nowhere close to what it is today.
I’m still confused. What are you saying?

Parts of Android are open and others are not. A few pieces like the kernel are licensed under the GPL and made available when product ships. For example, Google just released the kernel for Droid (android-omap-2.6.29-eclair). Other parts of the Android framework are under the Apache License and can remain closed as long as Google likes.

This is the reason why the popular CyanogenMod has not been updated to Android 2.0. Google has yet to release the full source code for Eclair and there is no time frame for doing so.
Ok you totally lost me.

Android is developed behind closed doors, but anyone can still make contributions. The Verizon Droid was actually the first phone to receive a significant number of open source contributions from the community. However, Google has not released the full source code so it is hard to tell what those contributions were.

Google and select members of the OHA decide the roadmap for Android, but it will no longer be made public. The reason for this is because of commercial deadlines. Google does not want to publish a roadmap of features and then be criticized for failing to deliver when they have a product deadline to meet.

In order for Android to be a commercially viable product (and show up on all those new phones you love), parts of it must remain closed and be controlled by Google. That is just the way it is.
So when will Eclair source code be released?

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I have no clue when Android 2.0 source will be released. Your guess is as good as mine. The following quote comes from our favorite Android engineer Jean-Baptiste Queru over on the official Google Groups page.

There are a number of things that need to happen before any
Open-Source release can happen, and those haven’t all happened for
Eclair yet. For all I know all of those things will eventually happen.

The overall process for any such release routinely takes a few weeks,
depending of course on the size of the release, and Eclair is a big
release.

I’m afraid that’s about all I’m allowed to say at the moment. As a
technical person, I can’t make actual commitments or discuss specific
dates.
Until that happens, most of us will be stuck with Android 1.6 (Donut). He mentions it could be a few weeks, but I’m thinking it might be a few months. I would love to be wrong.
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The Android Wrap: The Skinny On Droid Lines; Reviews Galore; The Small Print On Pricing



Many are referring as this to Droid Day, the moment when Verizon Wireless (NYSE: VZ) starts selling the Motorola (NYSE: MOT) Droid, perhaps the most highly anticipated Google (NSDQ: GOOG) Android phone to date. So, did people turn out in droves to buy the shinny new phone? Is it better than the iPhone? What’s the difference between the Droid and the Droid Eris? And, what’s it all going to cost me? We have all those answers and more:

The lines: Verizon Wireless opened many of its stores early for the throngs of people expected to show up. Early on, that sounded like a smart move. Cnet reported that more than a hundred people were lined up at midnight (early Friday morning) in front of a store in midtown Manhattan. However, the momentum didn’t last. Engadget snapped a picture of one person in line in San Francisco. In Seattle, where Verizon Wireless experienced a line for the BlackBerry Storm when it launched, not a single person stood today. Still, sales seemed to be steady today, according to anecdotal evidence.

Droid Vs. Droid Eris: This may cause confusion, but late in the game Verizon decided to start selling both the Motorola Droid today, along with the HTC Droid Eris. So, what’s the difference? The Droid Eris, which sells as the HTC Hero elsewhere, lacks a physical keyboard, is cheaper and boosts a slightly older operating system, meaning it won’t come with free Google navigation. However, you must be warned that the Eris has a more polished, prettier user interface that HTC spent a long time developing—and we like it a lot. In contrast, the Droid looks like some of the earlier Android builds. If the Eris appeals to you, you may want to consider buying the HTC Hero with Sprint (NYSE: S), not the Eris from Verizon. Laptop Magazine breaks it down here: The HTC Eris may only cost $99 at Verizon, but it’s $651 more expensive than Sprint Hero because of the data plans and because Sprint includes a lot of software on the device for free (like navigation).

Is the Droid better than the iPhone?: As you may suspect this is a highly personal opinion that can easily be swayed by which device the person is currently using. Nonetheless, there’s plenty of reviews to point you to. The WSJ’s Walt Mossberg diplomatically concludes: “It’s the best super-smart phone Verizon offers, the best Motorola phone I’ve tested and the best hardware so far to run Android…Like the iPhone, the Droid is really a powerful hand-held computer that happens to make phone calls, and is a platform for numerous third-party programs, or apps.” TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington is less coy and pretty much tells everyone to run out and get it immediately: “It is as close as we’ve come to the Platonic ideal of a smartphone. Its very existence ensures that the next iPhone will be even better than it otherwise would have been.” If you are looking for more of a side-by-side comparison, MobileCrunch is the place to go and has a two part series that answers everything from ringer volume to photo quality to the browser. That’s here and here.

Ok, I’m sold. How much does it all cost?: See above for the Eris. As for the Motorola Droid, I’m afraid it’s not as straightforward. First, the phone: At the Verizon store, it will cost $200 after a $100 mail-in rebate and two-year contract. But Engadget is reporting that Sears has a better deal. It will be $150 and no mail-in rebate. Second, the plan: For $30 a month, you will get an ‘unlimited’ data plan capped at 5Gb, reports PC World. The sneaky part is that it’s not unlimited at all. Verizon has confirmed that if you’d like to use the phone as a modem and tether it to your PC, it will cost you an additional $30 a month—but that is also limited to 5Gb. Unfortunately, the fees don’t stop there. You’ll pay $45 for the basic data plan (rather than $30) if you want access to the Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) Exchange email server. That means $75 a month for data, Exchange and tethering (with consumption capped at 10 Gb).

Ok, screw that I’m waiting for the iPhone on Verizon: But wait, no one really has a clue as to when Verizon Wireless might have an iPhone or some other Apple (NSDQ: AAPL) device. If rumor is enough for you, however, it could be as soon as the third quarter 2010. Quoting a report from Taiwan sources, AppleInsider reported today that the new “worldmode” iPhone will be compatible with Verizon’s CDMA2000 networks and UMTS 3G networks using a new hybrid chip produced by Qualcomm (NSDQ: QCOM). According to OTR Global’s sources, this one phone will work on most networks by third quarter next year. Of course, that could mean it’s going to Sprint.
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Speedtest.net launches Android application

If there was one thing we learned from last week’s HSPA 7.2 rumors, it was Android needs a proper speed testing application. Many mobile sites provide inaccurate results and the limited selection of available apps have not been updated in months. Speedtest.net must have been reading our site because they finally ported their popular iPhone application to Android.

Speedtest.net for Android is the perfect application to test 3G speeds. The app was just released in the last 48 hours and has already been updated several times to fix some bugs. The service works just as one would expect it to. A settings page allows you to change servers, adjust speed measurements, and sort history.

If you have any problems finding the application in the Android Market, please post your carrier and device info. I noticed the app was not showing up on my T-Mobile Cliq, but had no issues on my other Android phones.

I have one suggestion to Speedtest.net: Please add a share option so users can email or Tweet their results. We would also love to see your new Pingtest.net service make its way to Android.

Side note: I’m still not really sure what to think about the recent T-Mobile HSPA 7.2 sightings. One of the reports was running a Nokia n900 and the other was using a G1 (which I have no way to confirm.) I would love to know how T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint’s 3G network compare so post some screen shots if you got them.
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If there was one thing we learned from last week’s HSPA 7.2 rumors, it was Android needs a proper speed testing application. Many mobile sites provide inaccurate results and the limited selection of available apps have not been updated in months. Speedtest.net must have been reading our site because they finally ported their popular iPhone application to Android.

Speedtest.net for Android is the perfect application to test 3G speeds. The app was just released in the last 48 hours and has already been updated several times to fix some bugs. The service works just as one would expect it to. A settings page allows you to change servers, adjust speed measurements, and sort history.

If you have any problems finding the application in the Android Market, please post your carrier and device info. I noticed the app was not showing up on my T-Mobile Cliq, but had no issues on my other Android phones.

I have one suggestion to Speedtest.net: Please add a share option so users can email or Tweet their results. We would also love to see your new Pingtest.net service make its way to Android.

Side note: I’m still not really sure what to think about the recent T-Mobile HSPA 7.2 sightings. One of the reports was running a Nokia n900 and the other was using a G1 (which I have no way to confirm.) I would love to know how T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint’s 3G network compare so post some screen shots if you got them.
Just ran one w/ the app. Speed (on Sprint) isn't too bad.

Download Speed: 1299.9 Kbps
Max Speed: 1338.7 Kbps

Upload Speed: 165 Kbps
Max Upload: 165 Kbps


edit: We need to add an updated App List.
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Vimeo videos coming to Android, iPhone

Vimeo announced today that they have added Android and iPhone playback for all the videos in its staff picks and HD video showcase sections and plan to add support soon for all Plus members (and their videos). Vimeo has quickly become a favorite in the online video space because of its high quality video options and its community features. Below you’ll find Vimeo’s announcement, via Twitter:



Fandango Android application in the works

Clark recently launched Droid Week which highlights a new Android application every Monday. Part of the site allows anyone to sound off on an app by tweeting your thoughts. This weeks’ entry was Flixster and I tweeted that I wanted Fandango support to buy tickets on my phone. It appears I am little behind the times because Fandango already released their own iPhone application back in March 2009.

Someone at Fandango saw our tweet and responded with the following message.




This is the first I have seen of Fandango actually talking about an Android app. Several readers have asked me if one was coming and I hope this news encourages you.

Looking at the iPhone version, we expect the Android app will include the following features.

Browse movies

* Find movies playing in your local theaters – search movies showing nearby, or view “Opening This Week” and “Top Box Office” lists
* Discover movies ‘Coming Soon’– check out our “In the Spotlight” titles or view upcoming movie scheduled to play near you
* Tap a movie poster to watch high-quality trailers
* View the most accurate showtimes; read fan ratings and reviews, genres, synopses, run times and director and cast lists

Find theaters

* Find theaters closest to you using phone’s core location feature
* Add theaters to a “Favorites” list for faster searching
* Discover theater amenities such as stadium seating and wheelchair accessibility
* Connect with Google Maps to find driving directions

Purchase tickets in a flash

* Purchase tickets seamlessly without leaving the app
* Buy tickets for more movie screens – 16,000 and counting! — than on any other app
* Sign into your Fandango account to purchase tickets with your credit card stored online
* Or securely store credit card information to your device – it’s your choice!
* View your purchase history to access ticket details
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T-Mobile HSPA 7.2 on all 3G nodes by year’s end

We have been all over the T-Mobile HSPA 7.2 story, but been able to produce a list of markets where the service was expected to launch in 2009. The reason we were unable to get a list of cities is because T-Mobile expects to have HSPA 7.2 deployed to all their 3G nodes by the end of this year. That means if you currently get T-Mobile’s 3G service, then you will have HSPA 7.2 sometime in the next 50 days. T-Mobile’s 3G network currently covers over 170 million people and is expected to reach 200 million by year’s end.

The devices on T-Mobile’s network which support HSPA 7.2 include:

* G1
* MyTouch 3G
* Cliq
* Behold 2 (November 18, 2009)
* Touch Pro 2 (Windows)
* Dash 3G (Windows)

AT&T is also expected to upgrade their 3G network to HSPA 7.2, but it’s not scheduled to be completed till 2011 (at which point they will only have 90% HSPA 7.2 on their 3G network). Sprint is currently rolling out their 4G WiMax network (powered by Clear), which is only expected to cover 120 million people by the end of 2010. This means T-Mobile will have the largest hi-speed 3G network in 2009.

Sometime in the next few weeks, T-Mobile will flip the switch and light up all their 3G markets with lightning fast HSPA 7.2 speed. We have been on the lookout for reports of the new speeds, but it appears only select cities might be testing the service now. At least we have a reliable speed test tool for when T-Mobile confirms the official rollout has begun.

I’m really loving T-Mobile with their new Even More Plus plans and faster 3G service. It should be an interesting year for them in 2010 when they are scheduled to release several Android 2.0 devices and continue their 3G upgrade to HSPA+ (21 Mbps).

I will admit I had thoughts about leaving T-Mobile over the last six months, but I never want to sign a contract again. Their new Even More Plus plans allow me to get the lowest monthly prices and be free of a contract at the same time. T-Mobile has proven their strong commitment to the Android platform and support for the development community. I don’t see any way I would ever jump to one of the big three carriers at this point. A high speed network will be crucial for Android 2.0 phones and I’m glad I stuck with T-Mobile.
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Clark recently launched Droid Week which highlights a new Android application every Monday. Part of the site allows anyone to sound off on an app by tweeting your thoughts. This weeks’ entry was Flixster and I tweeted that I wanted Fandango support to buy tickets on my phone. It appears I am little behind the times because Fandango already released their own iPhone application back in March 2009.

Someone at Fandango saw our tweet and responded with the following message.




This is the first I have seen of Fandango actually talking about an Android app. Several readers have asked me if one was coming and I hope this news encourages you.

Looking at the iPhone version, we expect the Android app will include the following features.

Browse movies

* Find movies playing in your local theaters – search movies showing nearby, or view “Opening This Week” and “Top Box Office” lists
* Discover movies ‘Coming Soon’– check out our “In the Spotlight” titles or view upcoming movie scheduled to play near you
* Tap a movie poster to watch high-quality trailers
* View the most accurate showtimes; read fan ratings and reviews, genres, synopses, run times and director and cast lists

Find theaters

* Find theaters closest to you using phone’s core location feature
* Add theaters to a “Favorites” list for faster searching
* Discover theater amenities such as stadium seating and wheelchair accessibility
* Connect with Google Maps to find driving directions

Purchase tickets in a flash

* Purchase tickets seamlessly without leaving the app
* Buy tickets for more movie screens – 16,000 and counting! — than on any other app
* Sign into your Fandango account to purchase tickets with your credit card stored online
* Or securely store credit card information to your device – it’s your choice!
* View your purchase history to access ticket details
The Flixster app that is already available isn't too bad.
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I like Flixster also. Can you purchase tickets through it?

Also how do you like the BoxWave screen protector, or did you get one? I bought the clear version, but havnt installed it. My InvisibleShields install went perfect so Im afraid to pull it off. I also think Im going to swap my phone out if they ever confirm that the dust under screen issue has been fixed. Ive got a little bit at the bottom that bothers me when Im in the sunlight.
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I like Flixster also. Can you purchase tickets through it?

Also how do you like the BoxWave screen protector, or did you get one? I bought the clear version, but havnt installed it. My InvisibleShields install went perfect so Im afraid to pull it off. I also think Im going to swap my phone out if they ever confirm that the dust under screen issue has been fixed. Ive got a little bit at the bottom that bothers me when Im in the sunlight.
No, can't buy tickets through the app. It does give the theater's phone number though. I haven't purchased the BoxWave screen protector yet. The purchase is still on my to-do list (may do it by this weekend).
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Dell unveils Android-based Mini 3 smartphone

Dell said Friday that it's ready to enter the smartphone business with the Android-based Mini 3.

Long rumored to have such a device in the works, Dell said that the first two carriers to sell the Mini 3 will be China Mobile and Brazil's Claro.

The Mini 3 will apparently use OPhone, China Mobile's customized version of Google's Android operating system. "We are excited for Dell to be among the first manufacturers to introduce new technology based on the OPhone platform," an unnamed China Mobile representative said in Dell's press release.

We've got a call out to Dell to seek clarification on the operating system software.




Dell did not provide technical specifications or pricing information for the phone, saying those would be revealed when the device arrives in stores--probably late November for China Mobile and by year's end for Claro. It also did not say when the phone would arrive in the U.S. or other markets.

Michael Tatelman, a Dell sales and marketing executive, told the Associated Press that the phone has a 3.5-inch high-definition touch screen. The Mini 3 sold in China won't have Wi-Fi at the start, but Tatelman said that would come later.

Similarly, Apple's iPhone just made its official debut in China sans Wi-Fi.




China Mobile has more than 500 million customers, and Claro serves more than 42 million people in Brazil as part of the America Movil network, Dell said.

Dell did tout its "existing agreements with other leading global telecom providers," including Vodafone in Europe; AT&T and Verizon in the U.S.; M1 and Starhub in Singapore; and Maxis in Malaysia.

The Texas-based PC maker also played up the Internet connectivity angle of small mobile gadgetry.

"Our entry into the smartphone category is a logical extension of Dell's consumer product evolution over the past two years," Ron Garriques, president of the Dell Global Consumer Group, said in a statement. "We are developing smaller and smarter mobile products that enable our customers to take their Internet experience out of the home and do the things they want to do whenever and wherever they want."

But does the world need a smartphone from Dell? The device will have plenty of company: Android phones have begun arriving on the market in larger numbers in recent months.

Most notably, U.S. carrier Verizon Wireless last week began selling the much-hyped Droid, made by Motorola, and the more modest Droid Eris, made by HTC.
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Verizon Won’t Offer Free Tethering, but Droid hackers might


n TV ads, Verizon is trying to sell its new Google-powered phone by highlighting everything the “Droid Does” that the iPhone doesn’t. But the Droid will be able to do much more than Verizon is telling you. For example: free tethering, iPhone-like multitouch and CPU overclocking.

Similar to the jailbreak community hacking the iPhone, there’s a group of Android developers determined to grant any Google-powered phone free access to every feature imaginable. And they’re able to accomplish this task more legitimately than underground iPhone hackers, since Android’s source code is completely open to developers.

That gives developers an end-run around carriers, like Verizon, that might have their own ideas — like charging a $15-$30 monthly fee for tethering.

The source code for Android 2.0, aka Eclair, hasn’t been released by Google yet, so a custom build for the Droid isn’t yet available. But customized versions of the OS already exist for previous Android phones, and given the open-source nature of Google Android, it’s inevitable a modified firmware bundle will arrive in the near future.

Ever since the birth of the Android platform, developers have been working on a process called “rooting,” which gains administrative rights to a device. That allows developers (and users) to have complete control and to utilize all the features found in the Android platform. Now independent developers bundle features such as tethering, overclocking and multitouch into custom OS builds that are available free for download. Firmware mods makes it easy for a regular Android user to have it all.

What exactly does that mean for Droid customers, or owners of any Android phone for that matter? You’ll be able to install modified firmware onto your smartphone and gain access to everything Android is capable of — without paying extra fees on top of your cellphone bill — so long as the hardware can technically support it. For example, you won’t have to pay $30 for Verizon’s official tethering plan so long as you install a free mod that includes the feature.

Earlier Android phones — the T-Mobile G1 and MyTouch 3G — have already been hacked to support Google Maps Navigation, which is supposed to be a Droid-exclusive feature. Thanks to the folks at the XDA Developer forums, all that G1 or MyTouch owners have to do is reinstall an updated version of Google Maps and change configuration settings.

Some manufacturers and carriers are already embracing the direction of open customization with all the available and upcoming Android devices that are hitting the market. For example, T-Mobile’s official development forum allows developers and consumers to discuss step-by-step directions on rooting an Android device. T-Mobile customers who have gone this route enjoy the perks of data tethering, for example, without an additional cost.

You can assume that Verizon, a company which just doubled its early-termination fee, won’t look as kindly on the idea of customers rooting their devices and getting tethering for free.

Of course, changing the way a device operates from a manufacturer’s specifications always comes with a risk, and an Android phone is no exception. There are warnings about “bricking” your phone, which renders a device unbootable, and this commonly happens after installing a custom build of Android. Although it is considered a rare occurrence, a quick Google search brings up many results of Android users asking for help or wondering if their phone is, in fact, bricked.

And don’t think a carrier or manufacturer will offer any assistance with any issues caused after modding their device, a clear violation of most Terms of Use. When someone discovers a way to root the Droid, Verizon doesn’t have to take the T-Mobile route of turning a blind eye to these changes. It could retaliate by terminating contracts and voiding warranties.

With all that said, just when can we expect a mod for the Droid, for those willing to take on the risks? Google has not announced when it would release Android 2.0’s source code, but Android engineer Jean-Baptiste Queru has said it’ll happen eventually.

“There are a number of things that need to happen before any Open-Source release can happen, and those haven’t all happened for Eclair yet,” Queru wrote on the official Google Groups page. “For all I know all of those things will eventually happen. The overall process for any such release routinely takes a few weeks depending of course on the size of the release, and Eclair is a big release.”
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