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How is Fremont,CA < 50 miles from KC? That's what I don't understand.
Have you ever done a speedtest on a Clearwire device? For some reason for them Chicago is really close to KC. I think it has to do with where the main hub is?
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Have you ever done a speedtest on a Clearwire device? For some reason for them Chicago is really close to KC. I think it has to do with where the main hub is?
Either way it's a simple solution for someone who's looking to write a biased article bashing Google Fiber before it's even rolled out. News media in this country are stooping to all time lows.
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Either way it's a simple solution for someone who's looking to write a biased article bashing Google Fiber before it's even rolled out. News media in this country are stooping to all time lows.
Just trying to shed a little light on the subject. I will go back into my dark corner.
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fwiw Fremont is a shit hole but anyway


So much for "getting close to JOCO"

Fiber for more communities
We’ve been so excited about the number of pre-registrations, visitors to our Fiber Space, and amount of feedback that we’ve seen over the first week of the Google Fiber rally. Your enthusiasm is contagious—and we’re going to help it spread.
Next week, we hope to welcome three more communities in Kansas into our Google Fiber service area. We’re happy to announce that we’ve reached a tentative agreement to bring Fiber to the cities of Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods, Kan. Pending approval from each of the three City Councils, we plan to include these communities in a future rally for Google Fiber (timing to be announced, so stay tuned).

Our new Fiber communities: Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods, Kan.
To be clear, this does not change the construction schedule for eligible homes in Kansas City, Kan. and Central Kansas City, Mo. And homes in North and South Kansas City, Mo. will still be able to pre-register for Fiber in our second rally. Today we are simply adding three new Google Fiber communities for a future rally.
To our new communities, welcome! And to Kansas City, Kan. and Kansas City, Mo., keep the pre-registration going. We can't wait to bring a gig to your fiberhoods soon.
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So much for "getting close to JOCO"

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We’ve been so excited about the number of pre-registrations, visitors to our Fiber Space, and amount of feedback that we’ve seen over the first week of the Google Fiber rally. Your enthusiasm is contagious—and we’re going to help it spread.
Next week, we hope to welcome three more communities in Kansas into our Google Fiber service area. We’re happy to announce that we’ve reached a tentative agreement to bring Fiber to the cities of Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods, Kan. Pending approval from each of the three City Councils, we plan to include these communities in a future rally for Google Fiber (timing to be announced, so stay tuned).

Our new Fiber communities: Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods, Kan.
To be clear, this does not change the construction schedule for eligible homes in Kansas City, Kan. and Central Kansas City, Mo. And homes in North and South Kansas City, Mo. will still be able to pre-register for Fiber in our second rally. Today we are simply adding three new Google Fiber communities for a future rally.
To our new communities, welcome! And to Kansas City, Kan. and Kansas City, Mo., keep the pre-registration going. We can't wait to bring a gig to your fiberhoods soon.
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I know it is and people are worried about it getting closer to OP/Olathe ...
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So I noticed today that AT&T was marked outside of my house today in orange paint and then there was yellow paint marking something unknown???

I also noticed down the street someone has the Google Fiber bunny in their front yard. Does anyone know what this is all about?
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So I noticed today that AT&T was marked outside of my house today in orange paint and then there was yellow paint marking something unknown???

I also noticed down the street someone has the Google Fiber bunny in their front yard. Does anyone know what this is all about?

Could mean they are getting fiber? ..I'd go ask
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There's a google ice cream truck running around town and they have those bunnies to give out as well. That's what a fiber space employee told me.
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News Corp.’s Carey open to Google Fiber


CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- News Corp. Chief Operating Officer Chase Carey said Wednesday he’s open to letting Google Inc.’s new Internet-TV service carry the media conglomerate’s channels, provided they can reach financial terms and agreement on issues such as piracy.



Google GOOG -0.66% is preparing to launch Google Fiber TV, a video service designed to compete with traditional cable and satellite, which will be bundled with a high-speed Internet service and a 2-terabyte digital video recorder. The service is being introduced in Kansas City.


When the service’s premiere lineup was revealed last month, it included channels owned by Viacom Inc. VIAB -0.78% , NBC Universal CMCSA -0.03% , Discovery Communications DISCA +0.61% , Liberty Media LINTA -7.80% and other large media entities, but those of News Corp., Walt Disney Co. DIS -1.18% and Time Warner Inc.’s channels were conspicuously absent. Google Fiber’s ability to attract the biggest and most popular networks is one of the primary keys to its survival.

Speaking during a conference call following News Corp.’s release of fiscal fourth-quarter results, Carey said Google is building “a next-generation cable system.”

“If we can reach the right terms, then we’ll do business,” he said. “We want to make sure it’s with people who respect issues that are important to us around piracy and everything else.”

Carey indicated that he remains skeptical about the idea of a so-called virtual multichannel video program distributor provider (MVPD), which would operate just as cable operators do without setting up the costly infrastructure of those companies.

That’s a concept that has intrigued analysts and other observers since the emergence of online video streaming as a viable source of movies and TV shows in many U.S. households with the growth of Netflix NFLX +3.72% , Hulu and other services, especially in an economic climate that has forced many consumers to at least consider cutting back on household expenses.

However Carey suggested that Google’s effort stands out because of the search giant’s size and scale.

Carey said. “I don’t think [the concept of a digital MVPD] has really evolved far enough to get a clear picture of who’s doing what. There are a lot of people talking, but Google Fiber is much clearer.”
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Johnson County cities give high-speed OKs for Google Fiber



Three Johnson County cities will get a shot at access to Google Inc.’s incoming ultra-fast Internet network.
They just don’t know when.


On Aug. 3, Google said it planned to extend its network to the cities of Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods — the first time the company has publicly disclosed network plans outside the city limits of Kansas City, Mo., and Kansas City, Kan.
Google had reached tentative agreements with the cities that required approval from each city council before the company could proceed.
Westwood was the last city to sign off on the deal Thursday night in a 4-0 vote, authorizing its mayor to sign a joint development agreement with Google and the cities of Mission Woods and Westwood Hills for the deployment and operation of a high-speed fiber project. Westwood Hills and Mission Woods approved the Google plan Aug. 6 and Aug. 7, respectively.
The agreement allows Google to access certain rights of way and infrastructure, and it waives permitting fees. The company aims to offer consumers ultra-fast Internet and TV service.
“The three communities will be included in a future Google Fiber rally, on a date to be determined, to gauge the commitment of residents for Google Fiber services,” Westwood City Clerk Fred Sherman said.
By mid-day Monday, more than 60 neighborhoods in Kansas City and KCK had reached online pre-registration goals for the 1-gigabit network. Google has said it will connect the network to areas, or “fiberhoods,” that show enough interest by the end of a six-week marketing rally that ends Sept. 9.
Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods add more than 2,000 people to Google’s potential coverage area.
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I need to get one of these Fiber Bunnies. My wife is all into it.
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If Google (Nasdaq: GOOG)'s fiber experiment in the Kansas Cities goes badly or it simply wants to hand it over to someone else, it's got an out. Google can terminate its agreements two years after it started building the networks.
That's just one of several favorable clauses that are present in Google's sweetheart deal with the cities, according to franchise agreement documents obtained by Light Reading Cable. (See Google Fiber Bundles TV, Shuns Data Caps.)
Google, of course, has shown no signs that it intends to walk away, but it doesn't need much of a reason to do so.
"Google will have the right to terminate the Agreement for convenience at any time up to two (2) years after actual construction commences on the fiber network," the franchise agreement states.
If the deal is terminated after services are launched, Google and the city can create a new operating agreement "for the continued use of the existing fiber network, which could involve operation of the network by a third party."
Google's savvy deployment model, which requires that a certain number of homes in a given "fiberhood" (areas with 250 to 1,500 households) pre-register for the service for a $10 fee, is also baked into the deal. The city is allowing Google to "build the fiber network on a demand-driven basis, allowing the citizens of the City to determine where and when the Project will be deployed," according to the agreement. (See Google Fiber's Drive for Density and Who's Rallying for Google Fiber?)
While that's a clever way to stir up excitement about the project while adding in deployment efficiencies, it's not a model that franchise deals have historically allowed; they usually require the operator to make service available to all areas within a franchise region, and to get it done within a certain timeframe. The idea is to keep an operator from concentrating on affluent areas first while ignoring poorer neighborhoods -- a cherry-picking no-no called "redlining."
In fact, there is no hard deployment target mentioned in Google's agreement with Kansas City, Mo., the initial term of which is ten years (unless Google uses its two-year out), with the option for successive five-year terms.
But Google says it's committed to bringing services to all fiberhoods that qualify under its build-by-demand model. "We will build Google Fiber in the areas of Kansas City, KS and Kansas City, MO that meet their pre-registration goals," a spokeswoman says via email.
Google's first fiber "rally" is underway. At last check, 14 fiberhoods in Kansas and 49 in Missouri have already met their pre-registration goals, and there are 25 days remaining in the first round.
Google Fiber's also set its sights on Westwood, Westwood Hills and Mission Woods, Kan., as part of a phase II rollout that will apply the same model. It's just waiting for the three city councils to approve it. (See Google Fiber Sizes Up More Territory.)
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The early rally results show that there's plenty of interest in Google Fiber, but the franchise agreement's loose deployment targets and conditions likewise show how anxious the city was to win the Google Fiber competition, says Effros Communications President Steve Effros, a veteran cable lobbyist with a deep understanding of franchise rules.
"Google got an absolute sweetheart deal," Effros says. "They [the cities] wrote a franchise that no cable operator could have possibly gotten when franchises were being argued over and fought over in the 1990s and 2000s. The franchises operators have today are far more restrictive than this thing they've given to Google."
Google also represents new competition for the area's incumbent operators, so that's one reason Google was given some advantageous leeway. Still, other overbuilders typically did not receive nearly as much special treatment from franchise authorities.
Also, no part of Google Fiber's contract with the city requires it to operate its new network under an open access system that would let other ISPs jump on and sell services. Google promoted the open access idea in the early days of its fiber project, but "that disappeared before they even dug their first trench," Effros says.
Google, meanwhile, argues that it offers the best option. "We don't think anybody else can deliver a gig the way we can," Google Fiber Project Manager Kevin Lo told The Kansas City Star in July when asked why the open access idea was left behind.
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A day before it plans an event to mark new service for some of its first customers, Google Inc. announced in a blog post today it was adding a family of Fox channels to its TV and ultra-fast Internet service.

That shrinks significantly the programming hole in the Google Fiber offerings, leaving HBO and AMC as the notable missing pieces to its channel lineup.

Google Fiber’s product manager, Larry Yang, wrote in a blog post that the company will offer the popular conservative Fox News Channel and edgy entertainment programming of FX to it fare along with a number of sports networks.

The new channels include BabyTV, Big Ten Network, Fox Business Network, Fox College Sports Atlantic, Fox College Sports Central, Fox College Sports Pacific, Fox Deportes, Fox Movie Channel, Fox News Channel, Fox Soccer, Fox Soccer Plus FS Kansas City, Fuel TV, FX, HSN2, KPXEDT2 - Qubo, KPXEDT3 - ION Life, Nat Geo, Mundo, Nat Geo WILD, National Geographic Channel, Speed and Utilisima.

That followed an earlier signing of channels from Disney Corp. and its critical ESPN lineup.

Lining up content providers has proven a challenge for Google because it doesn’t have the traditional relationships of its new competitors in the cable television business.

In fact, it’s often stood at odds with the entertainment industry. News Corp., the owner of Fox, has in the past referred to Google and other online aggregators as “parasites” for the ways they facilitate pirating of copyrighted content. They took opposite sides over federal anti-piracy legislation earlier this year.

But now the two have cut a deal that makes Google Fiber’s programming significantly more competitive with Time Warner Cable and AT&T’s U-verse services.

Google has scheduled an event to highlight the start of service to a handful of homes in Kansas City, Kan., on Tuesday, nearly a year later than it had originally talked of bringing the cutting-edge package of high-definition video and fastest-in-the-country consumer Internet connections.

Google has not announced officially that Tuesday marks the start of its service. But at least one local organization has said it will be live-streaming coverage of the Google Fiber installation at 1 p.m. on Tuesday.

Meantime, Google quietly started service to some homes in late October.
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While Google Fiber is being implemented in Kansas City, Kan., and Kansas City, Mo., company officials aren’t saying when it might expand into Leavenworth County.
“We aren’t there yet in terms of our strategy,” said Rachel Hack, Google community manager for the Kansas City area.
Hack spoke Friday to the Fort Leavenworth Community Relations Group about Google Fiber, which is said to provide an internet connection that is 100 times faster than the average internet service.
Kansas City, Kan., was selected for the launch of Google Fiber with Kansas City, Mo., also being added as a launch city. Google Fiber, which also can be used for paid television service, launched earlier this year.
Hack said Google is focused on Kansas City, Kan., and Kansas City, Mo., right now. But the company has heard from mayors in other cities in the metropolitan area who’ve indicated they’re ready to talk when Google is.
She said three communities in northeast Johnson County have been included as areas that will receive Google Fiber service. She said this signaled the company is interested in expansion.
She said expanding to other communities requires separate agreements, and Google would have to work with the companies that control the utility poles.
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While Google Fiber is being implemented in Kansas City, Kan., and Kansas City, Mo., company officials aren’t saying when it might expand into Leavenworth County.
“We aren’t there yet in terms of our strategy,” said Rachel Hack, Google community manager for the Kansas City area.
Hack spoke Friday to the Fort Leavenworth Community Relations Group about Google Fiber, which is said to provide an internet connection that is 100 times faster than the average internet service.
Kansas City, Kan., was selected for the launch of Google Fiber with Kansas City, Mo., also being added as a launch city. Google Fiber, which also can be used for paid television service, launched earlier this year.
Hack said Google is focused on Kansas City, Kan., and Kansas City, Mo., right now. But the company has heard from mayors in other cities in the metropolitan area who’ve indicated they’re ready to talk when Google is.
She said three communities in northeast Johnson County have been included as areas that will receive Google Fiber service. She said this signaled the company is interested in expansion.
She said expanding to other communities requires separate agreements, and Google would have to work with the companies that control the utility poles.
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Google Fiber is being installed all over Kansa City right now and people are so happy about the blazing fast speed that they've posted pictures of their speed tests. It's ridiculous. People with Google Fiber can expect 700 Mbps down on ethernet and about 200 Mbps down on Wi-Fi. That's ISP heaven on Earth.
Mike Demarais, founder of Threedee, told Ars Technica:
"We just got it today and I've been stuck in front of my laptop for the last few hours... It's unbelievable. I'm probably not going to leave the house."
We wouldn't either. And for the first thing Demarais did when Google Fiber was up and running at his home? He BitTorrented Ubuntu. It took him two minutes. Bless his heart and bless Google Fiber. [Ars Technica]
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Im wondering if you have to give the tablet back if you ever cancel service.

Im assuming yes
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If a Gigabit + TV Service Subscriber cancels or switches service before the end of the 2 year contract, the Initial Price for the Storage Box, one included TV Box, and Nexus 7 Tablet will no longer be waived. Subscribers will have two options:

Return the Storage Box, the included TV Box with remote control, and the Nexus 7 Tablet to Google Fiber in good working order within 45 days of cancellation or change in Service; or
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I want fiber so bad but it will probably be years before it hits Colorado.
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Unread 2012-11-15, 06:42 PM   #174
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Supposedly they are supposed to start installing in homes in our fiber-hood starting tomorrow. They've already buried the cable at the curb, but not into our houses yet. I can't wait!
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Full U.S. Roll Out of Google Fiber Would Cost Google $140 Billion


According to Goldman Sachs, the best estimate for how much it would cost Google to have a complete Google Fiber roll out to the United States would cost roughly $140 billion. That’s $140,000,000,000. That’s a lot of zeros. Technically, Google’s yearly budget for such projects is $4.5 billion, which means we could be waiting quite some time before others outside of Kansas City experience 1Gbps download and upload speeds.

Other estimates were done to see how much the cost would amount to if they decided to only light up half of America, which still equaled to about $70 billion. That’s just $25 billion over the amount of cash that Google has on hand during any given day of the week.

Come on, Apple. Lend a helping hand?
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