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Unread 2012-07-18, 09:52 AM   #26
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New theory on Google’s fiber experiment - a utility revolution




Google has slowly but surely been making progress on its rollout of a gigabit fiber network in Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri. But while there is clear evidence that Google intends to test out its own TV service over the newly laid fiber, there’s very little information otherwise on what Google has planned for its high-bandwidth infrastructure.
Now, Canadian engineer and researcher Bill St. Arnaud has put forth a new theory. Maybe Google is planning to partner with a local utility company to push smart energy applications. The idea is that Google could work with an electric utility to manage peak energy usage and reduce energy costs. Instead of returning those savings to consumers directly - a presumably small amount per subscriber - Google could redirect that�new-found money into its fiber network, and toward the support of profit-making premium services.
The idea isn’t as strange as it sounds. As St. Arnaud points out, Google’s deployment activity suggests that it will drive fiber out to individual homes even before consumers subscribe to its broadband service. (St. Arnaud makes this assumption because of where Google is currently stringing its fiber on utility poles.) What if the company plans to offer the basic broadband service for free with a plan to make money only off of additional services delivered on top? TV alone wouldn’t cut it, but maybe TV combined with premium fee-based wireless services, and new smart energy programs would.
I asked independent telecom and energy tech analyst Cynthia Brumfield if she thought St. Arnaud’s theory was a viable one. She couldn’t say definitively yes or no, but she did have this comment:
Google has a history of using its substantial financial resources to mount experimental projects in highly concentrated networked industries, such as telecom, cable and electricity. Whether any of these projects prove to be profitable almost seems to be irrelevant; the experiments seem to be aimed at creating new ways for outsiders to participate in, or even compete with, capital-intensive entrenched infrastructure providers.
In other words, Google is perfectly happy to tilt at windmills. But in this version of the literary analogy, Don Quixote comes with the resources of a David, rather than a Goliath. Will Google revolutionize energy services and ultimately make a profit from combining gigabit fiber with smart grid technology? Who knows? But it certainly has the money and the moxie to try.
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FUUUUUUUUU i cant wait! Im going to drop Uverse internet so fast they wont know what happened.
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so this is just internet or internet and cable? Can you still have ATT uverse without the internet through them? I'm in south joco so I know it'll be awhile until it reaches me.
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so this is just internet or internet and cable? Can you still have ATT uverse without the internet through them? I'm in south joco so I know it'll be awhile until it reaches me.

All that I have been hearing is internet (fiber) I am not sure what that top set box will do or is capable of (if it is a bundle I am all in)
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I can already see ATT and TWC revamping their early termination fees to really fuck you over to combat the amount of cancellations they will see just for internet alone.
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ATT doesn't have a contract, it's month to month. If they move to a contract based service I will be dropping them entirely.
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ATT doesn't have a contract, it's month to month. If they move to a contract based service I will be dropping them entirely.
I've read/heard some stories of ATT trying to pull a fast one by saying people are "under contract" and charging them a prorate to cancel because they signed up during a promo or with a bundle package. Now with a big threat like Google, I can see that becoming even more of a problem.
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I've read/heard some stories of ATT trying to pull a fast one by saying people are "under contract" and charging them a prorate to cancel because they signed up during a promo or with a bundle package. Now with a big threat like Google, I can see that becoming even more of a problem.

This is what's going on (when/if) you call they tell you this is your price for the next 12 months
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This is what's going on (when/if) you call they tell you this is your price for the next 12 months

I called them yesterday to get my price set back where it was. It kicks over every 3 months and I have to call and have them add the discounts. I've never had them tell me it was a year deal. "your month to month is xxx.xx"
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I called them yesterday to get my price set back where it was. It kicks over every 3 months and I have to call and have them add the discounts. I've never had them tell me it was a year deal. "your month to month is xxx.xx"

Yeah that's not the verbiage they are using ( when I called to haggle out my deal iirc they said something about 12 months/year ) I don't recall the exact wording
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So can us JoCo folk tap dat ass?
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Please God let them provide service to the suburbs so I can get this. I will pay like...a million dollars a month to have this.
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So can us JoCo folk tap dat ass?

I hope the announcement is how far spread out they are going for the 1st run and/or upgrade plans
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I feel that I'm close enough to WyCo that I should at least have a shot at getting it out here.
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thats the verbage they used yesterday with me. I learned my lesson with comcast and making changes
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I wonder what TWC will have to say about this... thankfully under no contract .
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Since I have moved into my new home I have yet to get internet. Patience is a virtue...




FFUUUUUCCCKKKK!!! I am getting impatient.
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I have heard they are putting in the poorest neighborhood's first? Confirm deny?
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On google fiber in kc "Marc Brown 1 hour ago
I've been testing Google Fiber for the last 12 - 13 days. We are in Kansas City, Kansas. Maxing out a 20 connection usenet account, I can download 1080p 9GB file is a little over a minute. Amazing. It's insanely fast. I'm still just blown away."
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I've been testing Google Fiber for the last 12 - 13 days. We are in Kansas City, Kansas. Maxing out a 20 connection usenet account, I can download 1080p 9GB file is a little over a minute. Amazing. It's insanely fast. I'm still just blown away."
Jesus, that's going to be maxing out and probably going beyond what my write speed is to my hard drives. Insane!
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