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Looks like T-Mobile could be using that $4 billion they acquired from AT&T to do more than just roll out a super high-speed LTE network. As it turns out, ‘ol Magenta will also be freeing up a vital part of their spectrum that could finally allow for AT&T customers — no longer on contract — to make the easy transition over to T-Mobile with their current AT&T device.
T-Mobile’s CTO Neville Ray spoke during a dinner event for CTIA saying the company plans to convert a good enough portion of its 1900MHz (2G) spectrum to 4G (although, technically 3G HSPA+), followed by an aggressive campaign to woo AT&T customers who have fulfilled their contract obligations. Normally, because of the way T-Mobile’s network is built, AT&T devices can only take advantage of their 2G “Edge” network. Once we hit the later part of this year, it looks like all of that could change. When asked if the upgraded 2G network had more to do with the absent iPhone on their network, Ray played coy.
This means, if you’ve been eyeballing that AT&T HTC One X — or just about any overseas device — come later this year, they’re all fair game. That is, if you’re willing to pay full retail for the device.


It was also announced that T-Mobile would be going with Ericsson and Nokia Simens Networks’ “Release 10″ hardware to help roll out their LTE network later this year and into 2013. When it comes to this year, T-Mobile will continue pushing out their blazing fast HSPA+ 42 network to new markets, which starting today include Little Rock AR, Lake Charles LA and Springfield, MO.
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T-Mobile To Have Unlocked iPhone Displays In Store Demonstrating Refarmed Network?



Our confidence level with this story is pretty high considering the sheer number of reports starting to come in regarding the idea that T-Mobile will have unlocked iPhone’s displayed in store running on T-Mobile’s 3G network. We’re pretty short on details but we do know that store managers were asked to activate a new microSIM before the end of August, but not told what device it would used with.

All the intel streaming in seems to point to a “bring your own iPhone” demonstration in store, which lines up perfectly with what T-Mobile’s been saying all along for their refarmed network. We’re also told that these in store displays all align with T-Mobile’s “selling against the iPhone” strategy in the hopes that customers will be enticed by bringing their own device, and pairing it with T-Mobile’s newly launched unlimited data plan.

There’s no telling when exactly these displays will start popping up in stores or how widespread they will be, but given that there’s plenty of iPhone response activity planned for the month of September in T-Mobile-land, I wouldn’t be surprised if they started showing up in the next few weeks.
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I would love to have an iphone on Tmobile
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Wish they would do that soon here in KC. My Android phone bit it a few weeks ago, so I have to use an old iPhone 3gs until my contract is up in December.
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Wish they would do that soon here in KC. My Android phone bit it a few weeks ago, so I have to use an old iPhone 3gs until my contract is up in December.
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NEW YORK (AP) -- T-Mobile USA, the only "Big 4" phone company that doesn't sell the iPhone, now wants to snag used ones from AT&T.

Starting Wednesday, when Apple is expected to reveal a new iPhone model, T-Mobile will start advertising that AT&T iPhone owners who are out of contract can switch to T-Mobile.

"We expect that consumers will start trading in older devices," said Harry Thomas, T-Mobile's director of marketing. "For every person waiting in line for the next model, a lot of them have to find a secondary market for that older device."

Apple Inc. hasn't said anything about a new iPhone, but it is expected to announce the iPhone 5 at an event it has scheduled in San Francisco on Wednesday. Sales would likely start later this month.

Signing an iPhone up for T-Mobile service has been possible for years, and the company says it has more than a million iPhones on its network. But they suffer a big penalty in data speeds, taking about 50 times longer to download files than on AT&T Inc.'s network.

This year, T-Mobile is reshuffling the frequencies on its network, which will let it match or even exceed AT&T's data speeds on iPhones. For now, that will be evident only in a few spots here and there in such cities as New York, Seattle, Las Vegas and Washington.

Sprint and Verizon iPhones of the "4'' model won't work on T-Mobile's network at all. The later iPhone 4S will work if it's been hacked, but that's not something T-Mobile wants to get into.

AT&T iPhones have to be unlocked using codes that AT&T will supply after the customer's contract is up.

T-Mobile, the U.S. cellphone business of Deutsche Telekom AG of Germany, has bought 3,000 iPhones and spread them out in its stores, so salespeople can demonstrate the iPhone working.

T-Mobile's pitch will center on its unlimited data plan, which it reintroduced last week. AT&T stopped signing up new customers to unlimited plans two years ago, and now slows down service drastically for the rest of the billing cycle once those still on old unlimited plans reach a certain level of data usage.

In Atlanta and New York, T-Mobile will be giving away $100 gift cards to customers who sign their iPhones up for two-year contracts.
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So we could bring in our unlocked iphones and have it legitimately on tmobile?
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that's what I am getting from this
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we have an upgrade in a week with Tmobile, hold out for iphone?
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we have an upgrade in a week with Tmobile, hold out for iphone?
You will need to have an Iphone (off AT&T) and they would unlock it (they already do this for the off contract phones)

is it worth holding out vs getting an upgrade vs the handsets that are avail on Tmo? Nope not in the slightest
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Every andriod phone I've had goes wanky 6 months after getting it. I'm suprised my g2 replacement hasn't crapped out yet. The only issues I see iphone people having are ones they cause themselves.
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Never had an issue if finding an off contract Iphone (with it unlocked) works, could try it out
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Awesome. I could finally use 3G. Lol. Though the other day I noticed my iPhone was getting a 3G signal. Haven't got it again since then.
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Oh fuck yes!

When I get back from Astan to Germany I was already planning on getting a 'new iPhone'. Now when I get it and then PCS back to the states I can bring it with me and get a micro sim for my still active stateside Tmo account, then BAM! new iPhone for cheaper than buying it outright.



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T-Mobile USA nano-SIM poses for the camera, may arrive in October



T-Mobile's American branch would really like to scoop up a few iPhone owners, and we're getting a better sense of just how far it's willing to go to lure refuseniks who'd otherwise go to AT&T. A product matrix leaked to TmoNews both shows the US carrier's specially branded nano-SIM cards and suggests they'll be available in October. And while there wasn't really any doubt, the cards should be in stores just for unlocked iPhone 5 models -- "no T-Mobile devices require this SIM card," the company tells its staff. The wait could be a pain, but the sighting at least provides some comfort to those who would only let their iPhone 5 run on Magenta's network.
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T-Mobile one city closer to nationwide 4G HSPA+ for unlocked and AT&T phones


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T-Mobile has the fastest 4G HSPA+ network in the US, but it runs on 1700 MHz AWS spectrum that is not compatible with most GSM phones. Unlocked GSM phones can still operate on T-Mobile, but they are limited to slow 2G EDGE speeds. Thankfully T-Mobile is in the middle of a massive $4 billion network upgrade, and they will support 4G HSPA+ speeds on AT&T compatible spectrum in major markets this year.
This week T-Mobile announced that 4G HSPA+ was available on the 1900 MHz band (compatible with AT&T and unlocked GSM phones) in Las Vegas. Benefits of the new network upgrade include:
  • Improved coverage: T-Mobile customers in Las Vegas will experience improved coverage and capacity on our 4G network in the vast majority of major hotels and casinos on the Strip, the Las Vegas Convention Center, Thomas and Mack Arena, as well as in surrounding cities such as Henderson and Summerlin.
  • Faster speeds on unlocked iPhones: Las Vegas customers who bring unlocked AT&T iPhones to T-Mobile will now experience a significant speed boost. In fact, our internal tests of unlocked iPhone 4S devices running over 4G on our 1900Mhz spectrum recorded on average 70% faster download speeds than iPhone 4S devices on AT&T’s network.
  • Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data: As America’s only nationwide 4G network with unlimited 4G data, T-Mobile offers consumers the best value in wireless. Customers who bring unlocked iPhones to T-Mobile can save up to $50 a month compared to AT&T.
Las Vegas joins the growing list of upgraded cities including Seattle, Washington D.C., Los Angeles and New York metro area. By the end of the year T-Mobile hopes to have 4G HSPA+ on the 1900 MHz band across 80 percent of their current HSPA+ footprint.
We don’t have the full details on the nationwide rollout, but it’s something you should pay attention to if you have considered switching to a pre-paid wireless plan. Currently, most unlocked Android phones will only see 4G HSPA+ speeds on AT&T’s network (on pre-paid plans like Straight Talk SIM), but soon they should soon see even faster speeds on T-Mobile and customers will have more pre-paid options like Simple Mobile or Solavei.
If you live in one of the upgraded T-Mobile markets and have an unlocked device, let us know if you have seen the faster speeds yet.
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i wonder if tmo is going to make a slow transition from 1700 to 1900 so they can get all the same phones at&t get's. also if they do, they can partner with at&t to have better roaming agreements for better coverage. i could see that helping both companys
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T-Mobile lights up 10 new metro areas with enhanced service



T-Mobile announced today that 10 more metro areas throughout the U.S. now have HSPA+ coverage. Customers on T-Mobile’s network in these areas with appropriate handsets can take advantage of T-Mobile’s Challenger initiative to eventually roll out service on the 1900MHz HSPA+ band nationwide. T-Mobile is also encouraging AT&T customers with unlocked phones to transfer their service to experience the benefits of T-Mobile’s network.
The locations announced today include:
  • Phoenix, including Tempe, Scottsdale, Glendale, Peoria, Paradise Valley, Surprise and Ahwatukee
  • Mesa, including Chandler and Gilbert
  • Tucson, including South Tucson, Marana, and Vail
  • Silicon Valley, including Cupertino, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, Santa Clara, San Jose
  • Oakland
  • San Francisco
  • Stockton
  • Modesto
  • Miami, including Coral Gables and Miami Beach
  • Fort Lauderdale, including Hollywood
These new areas join Baltimore, Houston, Kansas City, Las Vegas and Washington D.C. offering T-Mobile’s enhanced coverage.
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T-Mobile USA will finally carry Apple devices in 2013
Deutsche Telekom has announced an agreement with Apple, but no specifics yet.



T-Mobile, the only major US carrier without any official Apple offerings, will begin selling some products to subscribers in 2013. T-Mobile USA's parent company, Deutsche Telekom, said in a press conference on Thursday (hat tip to AllThingsD) that the company had entered into an agreement with Apple, but did not specify whether it involved iPhones, iPads, both, or something entirely new.

Before the original iPhone came out in 2007, it had been rumored that T-Mobile would be the carrier to first offer the device. That honor ended up going to AT&T, which remained the exclusive iPhone carrier until Apple added Verizon and Sprint last year. Since then, the iPhone has become available directly from a number of smaller regional carriers as well. AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint all carry versions of the iPad as well.

Poor T-Mobile, left out in the cold, has been relegated to supporting hordes of unlocked GSM iPhone users, who either brought their devices over from AT&T or purchased them unlocked from Apple.

Unlocked GSM iPhones should work on T-Mobile despite their unofficial support status, but there are still downsides—namely, the ability to use T-Mobile's 3G or upcoming LTE networks for data. Presumably, once T-Mobile carries the iPhone (and possibly the iPad) on an official basis, the devices will be able to function on the faster data networks, liberating iPhone-using T-Mobile subscribers from the chains of EDGE.

Deutsche Telekom has not provided a specific timeline for the rollout, so it's possible we won't see Apple products from the company until later in the year.
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Awesome. Hopefully it will roll out in time for my upgrade next year. Finally!
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T-Mobile's not skimping on the big announcements at its Capital Market Days conference: it's now declared that it plans to move entirely to its Value Plans in 2013. The carrier's current rate offering nets you a lower monthly tariff in exchange for an omitted device subsidy -- in other words, bring your own phone, and you'll pay less for service. The new strategy would make the company's voice and data lineup more competitive, particularly for subscribers who don't mind paying full sticker price for their handsets, bringing over an unlocked device from another carrier or financing your new phone for twenty months. (This may very well be a key strategy when it comes to its newfound relationship with Apple.) This likely won't be as drastic a move as it sounds, as the company briefly mentioned at today's conference that nearly 80 percent of all postpaid activations utilize the Value Plans already. During this afternoon's presentation, the company used the term "Un-carrier" to describe its new direction -- considering that Deutsche Telekom's Capital Market Days programming runs through tomorrow in Bonn, this move could turn out to be but one piece of T-Mobile's overall marketing plan for 2013.
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T-Mobile finalizes rollout of 1900MHz HSPA+ in 3 new markets


T-Mobile rolled out 10 new markets with 1900MHz HSPA+ service just two weeks ago, and now the nation's fourth-largest carrier is adding another three markets. Users with unlocked handsets that operate on the 1900MHz frequency for HSPA+ (like AT&T handsets) will start seeing much higher data speeds in Seattle, WA; Minneapolis, MN and Atlanta, GA. These new markets bring the nationwide total to 18, with some of the largest markets in the country being represented.

This comes at an interesting time, as we're just hearing of T-Mobile's official plans to sell Apple devices (read: iPhone) on its network. The iPhone has traditionally only worked on 1900MHz and not T-Mobile's usual 1700/2100MHz (AWS) frequencies, so it will be interesting to see if this announcement pushes the rollout even faster.

T-Mobile's rollout of 1900MHz is much bigger than just supporting the iPhone of course, as it frees up spectrum for the carrier's move to LTE and support for a whole host of unlocked devices sold worldwide.
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T-Mobile: $4 billion in spending cash, new 4G markets, LTE, and no more discounted devices




T-Mobile has been at the center of a many a headline today. After announcing that they would soon do the unthinkable and carry the iPhone at their stores, it seems that’s only the tip of the iceberg for 2013, which is shaping up to be their biggest year yet.
Lots ‘o money and network upgrades

First up, T-Mobile will be receiving a hefty sum of $4.7 billion from parent company Deutsche Telekom ($3 billion is also promised in both 2014 and 2015). This will help with the rollout of their upcoming LTE network, and in the refarming of their existing 2G network to 3G/4G. Speaking of refarming, Seattle, Minneapolis, and Atlanta are the latest cities to receive some of T-Mo’s network modernizing, bringing the official grand total to 18 markets in the US that have been upgraded.
While the focus of the 2G network upgrade has always been to snatch up existing iPhone users away from AT&T (of which there are supposedly already 1.7 million customers using iPhones on their network), there’s also a plethora of Android devices that will suddenly find themselves compatible on T-Mobile. AT&T exclusives like the HTC One X (or One X+) or even Verizon’s HTC Droid DNA, which works just fine on AT&T’s HSPA network thanks to its global roaming capabilities. T-Mobile’s merger with MetroPCS is also said to clear in 2013, a move that will help gain them even greater network coverage, along with better LTE penetration as well.
Bye, bye Classic

Probably the wildest news in all this is T-Mobile decision to kill off their Classic Plan, moving away from tried-and-true method of carrier subsidized handsets. You know, the way other carriers offer you a heavily discounted smartphone in exchange for a high monthly bill? Before you freak out — this doesn’t mean customers will have to shell out $600-$700 for the latest smartphones. Not upfront anyway. I mean, that would never fly with Americans, no matter how much they’d save in the long run.
Instead, T-Mobile will allow for customers to pay for their handsets in installment payments over the course of their 2-year agreement. These payments — anywhere between $15-$20 a month — would be tacked on top of their low priced monthly plans. This will apparently save customers more at the end of their contract than if they went the traditional route (cheap phone, expensive rates).
Will T-Mobile survive?

As you can see, T-Mobile is doing more than outfitting Carly in black leather, they seem to be offering consumers with a real alternative. I’m excited to see how it all pans out. Anyone planning on sticking it out with T-Mobile a little longer? Any readers out there suddenly seeing T-Mobile as a viable network option for your new Android device? Oh, and if you got some time on your hands, you can watch the full announcement streaming from YouTube below.


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I like this because this means that I can sell my HTC One S and get the HTC One X = Happy Casey
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First we had news of T-Mobile killing off their “Classic Plans” and subsidized devices, then we found out about their plans to sell Apple products, and now we have confirmation from FierceWireless that the carrier is planning on testing a new prepaid brand called GoSmart Mobile in select markets. If all goes well the company “plans a potential national launch sometime in 2013”.

No details on which markets will be included in the initial testing phase or which devices will be supported on the network, although we can assume that any T-Mobile GSM compatible phone will work. As of right now the GoSmart official site lists only the Alcatel OT 838 (2.4 inch screen and 2 megapixel camera), which reminds me of a BlackBerry knockoff.

GoSmart Mobile looks to be offering three plans as of right now:
  • A $30 plan for unlimited voice and text
  • A $35 plan for unlimited voice, text, and 2G Web
  • A $45 plan for unlimited Voice, Text and 3G (up to 5GB) Web. With unlimited 2G after that

One glaring omission is the lack of 4G data, which can be had on other MVNOs that use T-Mobile’s towers like Solavei or Straight Talk. Even T-Mo’s in house prepaid plans offer the higher HSPA+ speeds so hopefully this will change before the national launch.

Between their own offerings, the soon to be merger with MetroPCS, and now GoSmart Mobile, the carrier is setting itself up to be a powerhouse in a cluttered prepaid field. Consolidating the three in the near future will hopefully provide enough of a push to get the option of a major prepaid service into the mainstream. Having switched over to their $30/5GB plan myself recently I find this news spectacular. Doing quick math over the average of two years I’m saving roughly $1,440 from what I was paying with Sprint. And that’s with better speeds. Granted I live in a great coverage area but they are currently upgrading their infrastructure.

If Google keeps driving down the prices of high-end, unlocked phones like the Nexus 4 and T-Mobile can give great service at a cheap price, we can finally put the big two (sorry Sprint) on notice that they can’t keep us bent over the barrel forever.
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