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Unread 2016-05-05, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default Say goodbye to your neighborhood vape shop! FDA stepping in

E-cigs, e-cig hardware, cigars, pipe tobacco, and hookah all to fall under FDA regulation. Say goodbye to your neighborhood vape shop!

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Electronic cigarettes will now be regulated much like tobacco cigarettes, according to a new federal rule issued on Thursday, which also bans their sale to children.

Under the rule, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration would have to approve all tobacco products not currently regulated that hit stores after February 2007. The e-cigarette industry was virtually non-existent before then.

Premium, hand-rolled cigars, as well as hookah and pipe tobacco, are also included in the new regulation, which federal officials call "historic." The rule prohibits selling "covered tobacco products" to people younger than 18, and buyers must show photo ID. It also requires health warnings be displayed on cigarette tobacco, roll-your own tobacco, and covered tobacco product packages and in advertisements; and bans free samples and the sale of covered products in vending machines not located in adult-only facilities.

The Tobacco Control Act of 2009 sets Feb. 15, 2007, as the latest date by which all tobacco products would have to have to be grandfathered in. Mitch Zeller, head of the FDA's Center for Tobacco Products, has said publicly that he couldn't choose a later date, although industry officials disagree.

That means nearly every e-cigarette on the market and every different flavor and nicotine level would require a separate application for federal approval. Each application could cost $1 million or more, says Jeff Stier, an e-cigarette advocate with the National Center for Public Policy Research and industry officials.


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Teen e-cigarette use tripled in the past year

An amendment to appropriations legislation working its way through the House would change the date so more e-cigarettes would be grandfathered in.

The proposed rule was released more than two years ago in April 2014 and the final rule gives the industry two additional years to comply. The industry will have had "plenty of time to submit their applications," says Robin Koval, CEO of the Truth Initiative, an anti-tobacco health group.

However, stores have to comply with the rule in about three months (90 days from its publication May 10), and Zeller says contractors tasked with enforcement will be ready to "hit the ground running" on Day 91.

Koval says "it's perfectly reasonable" that people should know what's in something that "you inhale into your lungs."

Ellen Hahn, a professor at the University of Kentucky College of Nursing and co-chair of the UK Tobacco-free Task Force, said the new rule is a good first step toward controlling e-cigarettes. "From a health perspective, to reduce the social acceptance of them is good because frankly, it's the wild, wild West out there," she says. "Vape stores are everywhere."

She says so-called "vaping" can get kids hooked on nicotine and threatens to prolong "the tobacco epidemic." E-cigarette use has been rising steadily, especially among youth. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, e-cigarette use among high school students rose from 1.5% in 2011 to 16% in 2015. Federal health officials estimate that around 3 million middle and high school students currently use e-cigarettes.

Matthew Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, says the rule announced Thursday falls short in protecting children because it doesn't restrict the use of sweet e-cigarette flavors such as gummy bear and cotton candy even though the FDA's own data shows flavors play a big role in youth use.

Industry experts say treating e-cigarettes, which don't contain tobacco, the same as cigarettes could lead to such onerous and costly approval that all but the largest tobacco companies would be forced out of the market and possibly those companies too. Zeller says he expects consolidation in the number and type of products and vape shops.

The Tobacco Control Act requires the FDA to use science to weigh the potential benefits of e-cigarettes against any potential health risk, for both the individual users and the whole population, which Stier says would be all but impossible.

That could force e-cigarette smokers back to regular cigarettes, he says.

E-cigarettes help people trying to quit smoking, says Patricia Kovacevic, general counsel and chief compliance officer at e-cigarette manufacturer Nicopure. She and other e-cigarette advocates cited a Royal College of Physicians' report last week that showed e-cigarettes' benefits.

Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell says: "There are many other cessation tools available."

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Customer Jeff Kaiser, Assistant Manager Russell Major and Manager Jason Westbrook gather near the counter at 723 Vapor in Louisville. (Photo: Laura Ungar, USA TODAY)
But Russell Major, an e-cigarette user and store manager of 723 Vapor in Louisville, Ky., says e-cigarettes were the only thing that helped him quit a 13-year tobacco habit. The 33-year-old former Marine says he also tried nicotine patches and gum, to no avail. Major says he doesn't think e-cigarettes should be regulated like tobacco cigarettes.

"To me, we don't really understand the long-term health risks. We don't know if there are health risks," he says. But he adds:"I can support the ban on the sale of e-cigarettes to minors...I have kids of my own."

Lawmakers have to address the possible adverse health effects of e-cigarettes, Kovacevic says, but the rule doesn't account for the comparative benefits of e-cigarettes over regular tobacco products for improving overall public health.

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Workers at the at J.C. Newman cigar factory, using vintage machines, some 90 years old, make cigars on April 21, 2016, in Tampa Bay, Florida. Company President Eric Newman says new regulations on cigars expected any day now from the US Food and Drug Administration could end his 130-year-old business by making it too costly and complicated to introduce new blends of cigars. (Photo: KERRY SHERIDAN, AFP/Getty Images)
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IT'S FOR THE KIDS!!!!!
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The government is loosing to much money in Cig tax from the people switching to E-Cigs. They have to stop it and get people back on tobacco. It's not for the kids, it's all about the money.
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The FDA absolutely should regulate e-liquid. There is a lot of stuff being imported from China that has really horrible chemicals in it; it's totally unregulated right now. However, the rules the put in place are ridiculous.
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The FDA absolutely should regulate e-liquid. There is a lot of stuff being imported from China that has really horrible chemicals in it; it's totally unregulated right now. However, the rules the put in place are ridiculous.
There definitely needs to be some sort of regulation, but the new rules are way over the top. There are a lot of liquids that are just too questionable, and anyone can make and distribute it.

I can see vape mods now being sold as "flashlight parts" or something along those lines.
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There definitely needs to be some sort of regulation, but the new rules are way over the top. There are a lot of liquids that are just too questionable, and anyone can make and distribute it.

I can see vape mods now being sold as "flashlight parts" or something along those lines.
Yep, for sure. I don't know all the regulations, but I heard $1m per flavor, per nicotine content to get the FDA to stamp it so you can sell it... ouch. Goodbye all of the awesome, small makers (vaporchef, etc). They were the ones with the best quality liquid, usually
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Yep, for sure. I don't know all the regulations, but I heard $1m per flavor, per nicotine content to get the FDA to stamp it so you can sell it... ouch. Goodbye all of the awesome, small makers (vaporchef, etc). They were the ones with the best quality liquid, usually
Isn't it to DIY by getting glycerin, flavor and nicotine separately and mixing your own juice?
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going to be black market "vape dealers" now. Vaping is the new gateway drug.
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Isn't it to DIY by getting glycerin, flavor and nicotine separately and mixing your own juice?
I can guarantee the liquid nicotine used in diy mixing will also be subject to the approval process, effectively killing the diy market as well. This is infuriating to me as vaping has been the only smoking cessation method that has truly worked for me. Not to mention that building coils and different setups has become a legitimate hobby of mine. Big tobacco and Big pharma are absolutely behind this bullshit. I'm all for labeling of product ingredients but this Is just over the top. It will kill the industry, effectively forcing lots of individuals back to cigs which Is the real endgame.
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The amount of people opening up their own vape shops is ridiculous. Seems like you see one open up and it might last two months.
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Wichita has a ton of vape shops. Hell, there's a chain here that has 5 shops within city limits. They have been around for awhile though. Most of these shops make their money from mixing and selling their own juice lines. The prices they put on mods and atomizers is ridiculous. Usually 2 to 3 times the price of online retailers.
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