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We have been creeping up on the power level on this car, as the motor gets more and more break in miles on it. However I thought this was just amazing that the car could make this number on just boost alone (It will be sprayed with a NANO system at a later date)

This car is owned by the owner of the company "NANO" (http://shopping.netsuite.com/nano-nitrous) And will be used not only for the fun of having a high HP cobra, but also as a rolling demo, as to how awesome this car will be once it starts getting the N20 Sprayed. With the consistancy of the NANO system, its gonna be amazing how much the spool time and the HP numbers of this car are going to improve, even on a small shot (75hp). For those that haven't ever checked out their system, trust me its WELL worth looking into. And I am not even a "N2o guy"

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So here are the results of this car so far though the Automatic, with NO spray.

517rwhp on 8psi
814rwhp on 20psi
972rwhp on 22psi <-- Added 500rpm to dyno pulls
1072rwhp on 24psi
1104rwhp on 26psi

We will be starting next week over again, this time adding a 75shot of NANO on top of each of those boost levels, to see what kinda power she makes. I can't wait. Other things that might get added after that are a vacuum pump, and possibly some cams that work better in a more streetable RPM range. Also have V&P racing do their magic on set of 3" magnaflow mufflers.

Kinda scary that the HP, and TQ are still climbing strong at 7,400rpm. I wonder where she would have stopped making power. However the valve train isn't up to the task of going any faster then about 7,500rpm so no need to push it.


* The odd dip was due to tire spin











OK, so I said "more about this later" to the Aeromotive Eliminator set up. Basically when we started this project the car had the fuel system from the old Whipple set up on it. It was an A1000 with a "pick up tube" going into the tank, #8 feed to the pump, #8 feed to the rails, and #6 return. We knew when we swapped this car to E85 that the fuel load was going to go up drastically, and wondered how far the A1000 was going to hold on. Well we were blown away when it was supporting the 814rwhp pulls with ease, and lots of street abuse. This is WAY WAY WAY over the HP level I would have ever expected that pump to support based on math, and the rating of the pump. So we called it good with that, then decided to move to the Eliminator Pump and see what it could support on E85.

Well, with 1104rwhp she STILL hasn't even hinted at a drop in Fuel Pressure!!!
My jaw about hit the floor, and I was blown away again at what the little pump was doing.
Sadly at that power level we are hitting 99% duty cycle on the injectors

So we decided to have the fuel pump flow tested anyways, just to see what she was really flowing. So after running the pump on the flow bench at 66psi and 13.5volts(the pressure this car makes when in boost) the pump was flowing right at 3 gallons a min! So without a douby even based on math, the pump was keeping up with the fuel usage of this motor. To bad we are out of injector, or it would be nice to see if 1,200rwhp on boost only would be possible out of this combo on the E85. However we won't be able to see how far we can push it on boost alone until we get a set of 212lb injectors.

For now like I said, we will turn the car back down, and add the 75hp shot of NANO, and work our way back up in the power, and probably keep it around 1,000hp to the tire, and let the NANO help the spool time of the turbos, and give us just even that much more "intercooling" from the N20 spray.

Thanks for reading, I know it was long, but its interesting to push E85 this far.
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Love it. Can't wait to see Nano results!
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Put the 250 pills in it and get that bitch spoolin'
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the only thing i dont get about the nano system:

how can you tell when your nitrousbottle needs a refill? the nano is basically just putting compressed air in the n2o bottle to replace the nitrous used right, so wouldnt the pressure guage always read the same?
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I'm guessing the 75 shot will = out to be around 125 extra hp. Turbo's like nitrous for some reason. Just a quick hit and it's instaspool!
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the only thing i dont get about the nano system:

how can you tell when your nitrousbottle needs a refill? the nano is basically just putting compressed air in the n2o bottle to replace the nitrous used right, so wouldnt the pressure guage always read the same?
The NANO bottle is supposed to run out at the same time as the nitrous bottle, from what I remember.
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I'm guessing the 75 shot will = out to be around 125 extra hp. Turbo's like nitrous for some reason. Just a quick hit and it's instaspool!

Basically thats the goal..... put it back to like 15psi, and hit it with a 75 shot.
Should be around 1000rwhp with a locked converter at that point.

Then its just up to Tom to figure out how to drive it.

I talked to him last night, about going with a AMS1000 to control boost now.
Think thats the direction we are gonna go, we will finalize details later in the week.
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My god!! lol I'd love to see pics of this thing and vid of the dyno pull... Think you'll be able to translate that power onto the strip?
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First of all, I would like to thank HOB's Eric ,Dorian ,and Shawn for thier excellent craftmanship, Tuning, and buniness practices. Anyone who has known the history of this build will emediatley recognize that the HOB was the shop I was always looking for, but unfortunately I ended up at other less capable shops at the begining of the project (HOB was not established at the time I started the build).

I would also like to thank Aeromotive for there contibutions in helping us fuel this beast with E85. They comped an in-tank eliminator pro which will allow us to reach 1300+ RWHP with larger injectors.

Not to mention the loyal NANO customers who have purchased our products. Thank you for your support.

This car will go to the strip and the street. It will take alot of time to apply the power at the strip and will probably never be able to apply the power on the street.

There are a lot of plans for the car but unfortunately funds will limit it's completion this year. We should make it to 5.0's King of the street and several local events.

See you soon.

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First of all, I would like to thank HOB's Eric ,Dorian ,and Shawn for thier excellent craftmanship, Tuning, and buniness practices. Anyone who has known the history of this build will emediatley recognize that the HOB was the shop I was always looking for, but unfortunately I ended up at other less capable shops at the begining of the project (HOB was not established at the time I started the build).

I would also like to thank Aeromotive for there contibutions in helping us fuel this beast with E85. They comped an in-tank eliminator pro which will allow us to reach 1300+ RWHP with larger injectors.

Not to mention the loyal NANO customers who have purchased our products. Thank you for your support.

This car will go to the strip and the street. It will take alot of time to apply the power at the strip and will probably never be able to apply the power on the street.

There are a lot of plans for the car but unfortunately funds will limit it's completion this year. We should make it to 5.0's King of the street and several local events.

See you soon.

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Very nice setup...I never hear anything but good things about HOB. Nice work everyone!

Now its time to take it down the track and see what it does. Does it already have all of the safety equipment for the track?
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lol...might have to take it to Rogersville then. The track officials won't stop you from running it all the way through, but the wall might when you hit it because of the short shutdown.
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lol...might have to take it to Rogersville then. The track officials won't stop you from running it all the way through, but the wall might when you hit it because of the short shutdown.
Thanks for the advice Tony, I am sure Tom will take you up on that.

And also thanks for the Props as well. You two can have a battle for MPH
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I love when power curves follow boost curves.

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