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I have no skin in the game. Just posted a single link with a little more info on the trans that was collaborated on.

Does anyone care as much about manual mode in an auto? Serious question. I spent some time on a BMW forum yesterday and guys were saying auto mode feels better and outperforms manual mode. They had their own complaints about manual mode of the trans you refefenced.

If guys are dragging their cars my suspicion is they will make adjustments in their tune regarding their shifts... not much need to be in manual mode at thst point

I always get a kick out of you dogging domestic fans.. you are the exact same thing in BMW form. Unable to see it without a strong bias. As the domestic creeps into these higher prices of the Germans... it will be hard to argue the fact domestics have performed well for a lot less money.

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Does anyone care as much about manual mode in an auto? Serious question. If guys are dragging their cars my suspicion is they will make adjustments in their tune.
I enjoyed it in the 6th gen SS rental I had on some twisty roads, the auto rev match and such into corners and keeping it in the gear I wanted was nice.

I'm sure daveb will have data as to why the 8 speed in those cars is a turd compared to German cars, etc., but I really enjoyed how it responded and shifted.
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a stripper ss will outperform a m3.

Wgaf about baveb fanboi shit.
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During the three HPDE days I have done, shifting the auto manually has a much better feel. Letting it shift itself even in "track" mode will downshift early or late leaving corners depending on throttle and speed. Sometimes downshifting as you roll on to WOT when it could have just stayed in the same gear it was already in.

I can also stave off overheating my trans on the vette by basically leaving it in 3rd and 4th the entire time. Only low speed (under 25-30mph) does it need to go down to 2nd. And It never needs to hit 1st, but will if you let it shift itself.

In my old 15GT with the A6 and my 16c7 with the A8, manually shifting was much smoother.
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During the three HPDE days I have done, shifting the auto manually has a much better feel. Letting it shift itself even in "track" mode will downshift early or late leaving corners depending on throttle and speed. Sometimes downshifting as you roll on to WOT when it could have just stayed in the same gear it was already in.

I can also stave off overheating my trans on the vette by basically leaving it in 3rd and 4th the entire time. Only low speed (under 25-30mph) does it need to go down to 2nd. And It never needs to hit 1st, but will if you let it shift itself.

In my old 15GT with the A6 and my 16c7 with the A8, manually shifting was much smoother.
Solid point. My mind was strictly on straightline.


LUND went 11.30s at 124mph with the A10. Tune, tire, and e85 only. Stock tires were cutting same 60s but the reduced weight picked up a little at and mph.

They went 11.50s with same combo and 93oct.

They got into the 11s on tire only with the a10.

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11.2 QUARTER MILE FASTEST N/A 2018 MUSTANG GT 5.0 IN COUNTRY TO DATE MOD LIST

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The 10 spd has been 11.8s while 100% stock. A low 11 sec car with great air, tune, and a DR
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2018 Ford Mustang | CarGurus Test Drive Review
Ford gives its 2018 Mustang a significant refresh that leaves the car looking meaner up front and deletes the previously available V6. The turbocharged 2.3-liter EcoBoost 4-cylinder and the 5.0-liter V8 continue, but the V8 produces more power and both transmissions are new. The new manual remains a 6-speed, but gets a twin-disc clutch and dual-mass flywheel, and the new automatic has 10 speeds, was co-developed with GM, and includes paddle shifters. The EcoBoost produces 310 hp and 350 lb-ft of torque, while the upgraded V8 makes 460 hp and 420 lb-ft.

All 2018 Mustangs get new shock absorbers and upgraded suspension, and the Performance Package offers an optional MagneRide magnetic damper system that improves handling. The new Mustang’s cabin also offers upgrades, from a heated steering wheel to a 12-inch customizable digital dashboard, and a number of advanced safety features, including pedestrian detection and lane-keeping assist, are optional.
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A Stock 2018 Mustang GT Is A Cheap Way To Get An 11-Second Car







Nearly 20 years ago, an 11-second car was fast. It’s still fast now, but back in the early 2000s, if you had a 11-second car, your shit was fast. Now it’s 2018 and a stock Mustang GT that you could walk off the lot with today can lay down an 11-second quarter mile like it’s nothing. What a time to be alive.

The team at Hot Roddecided to go test the new Mustang for themselves by taking it to a dragstrip. On their final and best run, they hit a quarter mile in 11.835 seconds at 119.51 MPH. This was with Drag Strip Mode and the 10-speed automatic transmission.

















To put that into perspective, a 2000 Ferrari 360 Modena could do a quarter mile in 12 seconds, according to Zero to 60 Times. So, there you have it: a muscle car in the $40,000 range that can smoke a Ferrari from just a decade before.
Will these cars plateau at some point? They have to, right?
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First 2018 Bullitt Mustang Reportedly Heading To Auction On January 19



The long-awaited 2018 Ford Mustang Bullitt has yet to premiere but it has already emerged that the first production example will be sold by Barrett-Jackson at the company’s Scottsdale auction on January 19, 2018.

Members of the Mustang 6G forums made the revelation after discovering that Lot #3006 is simply dubbed ‘Ford Charity Vehicle’ and features a darkened image of the original Mustang Bullitt. The description then reveals that “Ford Motor Company will auction a special new Ford Mustang” at the event “with 100 per cent of the hammer price benefiting Boys Republic.”

Boys Republic is a private, all-boys school for troubled adolescents in California. Interestingly, Steve McQueen from Bullitt actually attended this school and went on to serve as honorary chairman in 1966 and 1975. Giving the proceeds of the auction to the school will be a perfect way to celebrate the Bullitt legacy.

It is understood that the new Mustang Bullitt will be based around the Mustang GT and therefore continue to use a 5.0-liter naturally-aspirated V8 engine. While it won’t benefit from any significant performance increases, the styling of the Bullitt will be bespoke and include a dark green paint scheme, five-spoke wheels with chrome and black accents, distinctive badging, and some unique interior elements.

If reports prove accurate, the Mustang Bullitt will be shown to the world at the Detroit Auto Show.
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2018 Ford Mustang GT Matches Lexus LFA In Quarter Mile




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When Ford revealed the figures behind the 2018 Mustang GT, we were shocked to the say the least.

The automaker claimed the pony car, thanks to its 460-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine and new 10-speed automatic transmission, is capable of a sub-four-second zero to 60 mph time. That, as Ford was quick to point out, made the new Mustang with the GT Performance Package quicker than a Porsche 911 Carrera.

Ford, though, never provided an official quarter-mile time for the car.

Hot Rod (via Road & Track) got their hands on a 2018 Mustang GT and decided to do some instrument testing at a drag strip in Florida. Without beating around the bush, the outlet managed to clock a time of 11.83 seconds at 119.51 mph. We don’t have to tell you that’s quick, but we will – that’s a quick time.

It’s important to point out that Hot Rod also tested a fully-loaded model with every option box ticked, so it wasn’t some stripped out featherweight. And the outlet didn’t tune the Mustang GT or manipulate it in any way. All Hot Rod did was change the tire pressures – 26 psi for the rears and 45 psi for the fronts – and launched the car at 2,000 rpm using the car’s drag mode.

To put that into perspective, Car and Driver clocked the 2012 Lexus LFA with a quarter mile time of 11.8 seconds at 124 mph. So, the new Mustang with the GT Performance Package is as quick as a bona fide supercar, which is just mind boggling. If the Mustang GT is this quick, we can’t wait to see what the upcoming GT500 that’s rumored to have a supercharged 5.2-liter V8 engine is capable of on a drag strip.

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2018 Ford Mustang Bullitt will debut next week in Detroit





An unnamed source has reportedly confirmed that Ford will reveal the 2018 Ford Mustang Bullitt next week at the Detroit Auto Show. Ford has not made any announcements about the 2018 Mustang Bullitt, but a source confirmed the debut to the Automotive News.
The debut is expected to be timed with the 50th anniversary of the Steve McQueen movie that made the special Mustang famous. The car chase in the 1968 Bullitt movie with McQueen’s Highland Green Mustang GT 390 fastback made the car an icon. The 2018 Mustang Bullitt will likely feature the same dark green paint, as well as the five-spoke black wheels, like the Mustang in the movie.

Although Ford hasn’t confirmed the 2018 Mustang Bullitt, rumors about it have been going on for months. Recently a a dark green 2018 Mustang was caught during a commercial shoot in Chicago, which is believed to be the new Mustang Bullitt. Luckily a forum member on Mustang6G.com managed to capture a few shots of it.
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Spinel Green 2019 Mustang First Look!




A few months ago members of our forum discovered 2019 Mustang paint codes for the Ford Mustang. Among the color palette is one called “Spinel Green” which sparked speculation that it could either be a placeholder or successor for the Dark Highland Green paint used for the Bullitt Mustang we all know is coming.
We’re now able to put that to rest with the first photos of the Spinel Green paint on a 2019 Mustang body shell, thanks to Mustang6G member TSMam.
While Spinel Green is certainly not pretending to be a DHG replacement or stand-in, this bold green paint color will be welcomed by many Mustang fans after the discontinuation of Guard in 2016, the closest green paint option available for the Ford Mustang since Gotta Have It Green bowed out with the 2014 Mustang (S197). It’s therefore only appropriate that Spinel Green shows hints of Gotta Have It Green and, to our eyes, a mix of Grabber Green as well.
Although the new year just started, you may not have to wait long to order a Spinel Green Mustang, as a recent Ford Fleet Distribution Bulletin showed that 2019 Mustang orders could begin as early as March 2018.
Until then, feast your eyes on the very first real-life photos of the Spinel Green 2019 Mustang.
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The Ford Mustang Cements 2018 As The Year Of The Green Comeback



I don’t know how or why this happened—maybe automakers are making so much money off gray, white and silver crossovers that they just said “fuck it, why not”—but green is having something of a renaissance right now. We’ve seen more green options on new cars than we have in many years. If you ask me, the green comeback has now been firmly cemented by the 2019 Ford Mustang.
Right in time for St. Patrick’s Day—a holiday I myself enjoy but try not to drive on, and I’d advise the same of you—Ford announced that this rad new color, “Need For Green”, is available across the entire Mustang lineup this summer. If you buy a Mustang, get it in this color.
Why is this news? Because for years, cars were plagued with depressingly boring color choices, and now we’re seeing a little bit of green to brighten up our days. And it’s on fun cars, too. The current BMW M5, Volkswagen GTI, Audi RS5, Porsche 911 and various Subarus all come in various shades of green these days.
Green is good! Buy more interesting cars instead of boring stupid ones. That’s what I think!


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2018 Ford Mustang Launched In Europe With 443HP V8 And More Tech


The time has come for Ford to launch the updated Mustang in Europe, with the car maker shedding more light on the new model’s changes.

The Euro-spec 2018 Ford Mustang promises to offer a sharper driving character, more tech and more customization options than ever.
Ford will continue offering the new Mustang in both fastback and convertible bodystyles. The design changes are the same with the North American-spec Mustang, including a new front fascia and more refined aerodynamics.
V8 models will get an updated version of the 5.0-liter powerplant, which now produces 443hp (450PS) and 390lb-ft (529Nm). Paired to that is a six-speed manual transmission that now features rev-matching technology for smoother and faster downshifts.
The real highlight however is the addition of the latest 10-speed automatic gearbox. The combination of the V8 with the new automatic transmission enables the new Ford Mustang to sprint from 0 to 100km/h (62mph) in just 4.3 seconds.
The chassis features the new MagneRide adjustable suspension which is operated via the on-board Drive Modes. Ford will also offer the Active Valve Performance exhaust system that allows you to start the car in silent mode in order to keep your neighbours happy.
Europe’s passion for Mustang has proven even greater than we imagined – more than 33,000 Mustangs are already bringing one of the most iconic sights in motoring to the continent’s streets,” said Steven Armstrong, group vice president and president, Europe Middle East and Africa, Ford Motor Company. “There are few cars on the road that can deliver such a combination of heritage, style and performance to such a wide audience. The new Ford Mustang offers the most compelling package yet.”
The cabin has been updated with new soft-touch materials for a more premium feeling, as well as a 12-inch all-digital instrument cluster. For the first time, Ford’s Mustang will be available with Adaptive Cruise Control and Distance Alert systems. A SYNC3 infotainment system with an 8-inch display is also present, and is compatible with Apple Car Play and Android Auto.
EcoBoost models are powered by the turbocharged 2.3-liter four-cylinder unit. The entry-level engine now produces 286hp (290PS) and 324lb-ft (440Nm) of peak torque. A six-speed manual transmission is standard, with the 10-speed automatic still being an option.
Ford will also offer the Mustang Bullitt as a special model in Europe, featuring a upgraded 457hp version of the 5.0-liter V8. The special Mustang will be available only in either Shadow Black or the classic Dark Highland Green.
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Roush Supercharges 2018 Ford Mustang GT All The Way Up To 700 HP












How much horsepower will a Phase 2 kit produce?

Roush and Ford, especially the Mustang, have quite the history together spanning more than 25 years. The Michigan-based aftermarket tuning company is known for pumping insane amounts of horsepower from the two-door American muscle car. It seems like every few months, Roush announces a new performance package or kit for the Mustang with the explicit goal of extracting more power.

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The company’s latest supercharger kit is said to take the Mustang GT’s 5.0-liter V8 engine up to 700 horsepower. The Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat better watch its back.

The Roush Performance Phase 1 Supercharger Kit delivers all that power thanks to a 2.65-liter supercharger and a specially-designed calibration designed to work with the V8’s power and direct fuel injection system. The system produces 700 hp and 610 pound-feet of torque at 12 psi of boost on 93 octane fuel.That’s quite the bump from the 5.0-liter’s original 460-hp output.

The supercharger isn’t available just for the Mustang. Ford F-150 pickup trucks with the 5.0-liter engine can also add the supercharger. Horsepower isn’t the same 700; however, it does produce 640 hp and 600 lb-ft of torque, which is plenty for a pickup truck. Granted, this isn’t the same assortment of parts as the Phase 1 kit for the Mustang.
“It took over a year and thousands of hours to bring this new Roush Performance supercharger kit to market, involving feasibility studies, CAD and CAE, design, and development,” said Jack Roush, Chairman of the Board of Roush Enterprises. “The combination of the 2018 5.0-liter engine and our all-new, fully integrated 2018 Phase 1 Supercharger system yields simply incredible, no-compromise performance.”

The company backs the Phase 1 kit with a three-year, 36,000-mile limited warranty when installed by an authorized dealer or Automotive Service Excellence-certified technician. Roush rigorously tested the system “through 17 million cycles at wide-open throttle.” The kit comes with all the necessary installation hardware and an exclusive performance calibration.


The 2018 Roush Performance Phase 1 Supercharger is available for all 2018 Ford Mustang GT coupes or convertibles with either the manual or automatic transmission. Pricing for the Phase 1 kit starts at $7,699.99 with free shipping.
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How The 2018 Ford Mustang GT Really Compares To The Last One




The 2018 Ford Mustang GT let out a glorious, guttural belch as I rolled into the gas through a long sweeping turn. There was nothing else on the road but tire marks and tumbleweeds until I caught a twinkle in the rear-view mirror: another Ford Mustang GT, this car’s direct predecessor.
If that had been a scene in a bad movie, I probably would have grumbled something like “this should be interesting” without taking the toothpick out of my mouth before blasting into a gear-shifting montage that culminated in an explosion.



But since we’re civilized, we just pulled the 2018 Ford Mustang GT over next to my friend’s 2016 Ford Mustang GT to find out exactly how different the two cars look and feel from one another.





(Full disclosure: Ford loaned me a 2018 Kona Blue Mustang GT to test, and my friend Will just happened to own a 2016 Mustang GT in pretty similar trim. We took these cars to Angeles Crest Highway to get an earnest impression of what they’re both like to be driven properly, and Will was kind enough to let me drive his for a bit. Thanks, Will!)
This pair is really remarkably similar: both stock GT manuals with the Performance Pack, and the ’16 only has about 13,000 miles on it making this a pretty straight-across comparison. The biggest difference between the two is the MagneRide option and interior upgrade that comes with the Premium trim in the ’18.

The 2015 Ford Mustang blew minds and rocked faces with all-new underpinnings and a revolutionary design that carried through the 2017 model year. Remember how everyone freaked out over the fact that the Mustang was finally going to be fitted with independent rear suspension?


So most of the 2015, ’16 and ’17 Mustang GT reviews you’ve read probably praised the car’s improved handling over the last solid-axle model. The 2018 took the same basic setup that was introduced in ’15, gave it a little more power and a few aesthetic tweaks. The question is, how much better is it really and what can you actually feel?
Differences On Paper



The 2016 GT ran an aluminum 302-cubic inch (4.951-liter) V8 that Ford claimed could make 435 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque on 87-octane gasoline.

The 2018 GT uses the same engine “retuned,” according to Ford’s ad copy, to make 460 HP and 420 lb-ft of torque.



The spec sheet says a bore size increase from 92.2 millimeters to 93.0 millimeters, new direct fuel injectors, a new cylinder head design, additional knock sensors, a new crankshaft and connecting rod bearings plus a composite oil pan all contribute to the power boost.

As for the transmission, the 2018 GT’s six-speed manual got a new dual-mass flywheel which is supposed to reduce noise, vibration and harshness, a new twin-disc clutch that is rated for more torque capacity than the old one, plus changes to the tooth geometry and synchronizers which are designed to improve shifter feel.

The 2016 Mustang GT measured 188.3 inches front-to-back and weighed a claimed 3,705 pounds. The 2018 car is just a hair longer at 188.5 inches overall, and apparently weighs the exact same as the outgoing car.
Both Performance Packages unlock a range of tweaks, the most significant of which being big Brembo brakes and a Torsen limited-slip rear differential with a 3.73 gear ratio.
Differences You Can Feel


The 2018 cockpit has all the same shapes, but the cluster is different.
The starkest contrast between our 2018 Mustang GT and the 2016 was, predictably, in the seats and interior. The 2018 we had was a GT Premium which increased the fanciness of the cockpit markedly with leather seats, a high-quality central infotainment screen as well as, most impressively of all, a wide fully digital gauge cluster rendered in razor-sharp resolution and absolutely dripping with color.




The ergonomics and general shapes of the interior are unchanged. Remember, this is an update not a total redesign.
And to be honest, as much as I loved looking at the new car’s crisply lit dashboard, the old model’s standard cloth seats did a much better job of holding me and bolstering me against hard turns. The traditional analog gauge cluster is tidy too. I mean, as long as you can get over “GROUND SPEED” written in the speedometer.

The 2018 car has an undeniable edge in comparative straight-line pulls, though. The 2016 car is fast, but the new one’s extra 25 HP and 20 lb-ft of torque makes itself known early on. The new car hits you with a stronger bite around 2,500-3,000 RPM that pulls you just enough to make it seem significantly faster.

I liked the feel of the new car’s shifter a bit better as well. Changing gears seems slightly more definitive in the new machine, and it had a more satisfying engagement.



Our 2018 GT Premium was running the technologically impressive MagneRide suspension, which minimizes body roll and maximizes stability by constantly changing the stiffness of the car’s shocks. Basically, the shocks are filled with little metal flakes that can be magnetized to make the ride feel firmer or softer very quickly.
It works, too. The 2018 hunkered down into turns like a linebacker as its 5.0 engine churned and burned and pulled the car to warp speed. It was also reasonably compliant over rougher roads, and felt a lot more aggressive in the “Sport” and “Track” modes.


However, where the old car surprised me the most was that its handling wasn’t worse than the new one. The old car, with the Performance Pack, had a more traditional but still solid suspension setup featuring twin-tube front dampers and stabilizer bars. Edmunds.com actually wrote up a great tour of the ’15 Mustang’s Performance Pack suspension if you really want a close look, but my biggest takeaway from driving it hard through Angeles National Forest is that it’s damn responsive and well-planted. And, oh yeah, fun as hell.

With that in mind, I found the MagneRide’s real practical advantage was the fact that it could absorb bumps a little more softly while stiffening up again for spirited driving. But for pure fun-factor, the standard Performance Pack suspension is still plenty impressive.
What We Learned



The 2018 Ford Mustang GT and its immediate predecessor are both great cars, especially when dialed up a little with Performance Packs. While the ’18 has a little edge on acceleration thanks to a few extra horsepower, the most appreciable change the new car comes with is its adjustable digital dashboard.



The new screen-based gauge cluster is so crisp and interesting without looking cheesy or distracting that it’s almost cool enough to make it worth saving up for an ’18 instead of grabbing a ’15-’17. The styling of the new car is also significantly sleeker, though you really have to have both cars parked next to each other to tell the difference. That said, I’m not sure I totally prefer the new look to the outgoing car but I’m sure you’ll share your own conclusions there in the comments.




I will say though, definitively, that I favor cloth seats over leather even as I’m telling you the ’18 is a better car because of its nicer interior. It’s easier to stay planted against high-friction fabric.

If interior technology and modernism are important to you, it’s absolutely going to be worth saving up for a 2018. (That or at least waiting until they get old enough to drop in price.) But if you’re just after a great driving experience, the earlier sixth-generation GT won’t let you down. In fact, if you’ve never driven a Mustang with independent rear suspension, I think even longtime haters of this model would be impressed by how tough it can hang on twisty roads.













































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I was at a local Ford dealer writing a collision estimate on a separate vehicle and I walked by a Red 2018 GT with the Magneride, upgraded red interior, with the 10-speed auto and some other goodies ( nav, leather, etc) and it was sticker-ed at $53K!!!

Holy Fook thats a lot for a mustang
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It does seem outlandish.

However walk over to Honda a price a loaded out minivan and it will almost reach $50k as well. Not nearly the incentives that ford offers either.


Regardless to me in the past 5 years prices of Ford vehicles have drastically increased. Prices are up almost 20% in that time when I compare trucks and cars that I follow. Just seems like the vehicle market has seen crazy price inflation in regards to everything else.
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People are already getting them 4-7K below MSRP. So you can get a premium auto for under 40K. But the Camaro SS was 2-3K more then the 5.0 so now they almost the same. Think the SS still comes with better hardware standard though.

But yeah, they up there.
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People are already getting them 4-7K below MSRP. So you can get a premium auto for under 40K. But the Camaro SS was 2-3K more then the 5.0 so now they almost the same. Think the SS still comes with better hardware standard though.

But yeah, they up there.
As far as used market goes, I think GM's "facelift" on the '19 Camaro will help keep prices up on the '16-'18 Camaros.
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Yeah, I dont know what they were thinking. I was never overly fond of the 6th camaros front end anyway. But then the ZL1 dropped and they nailed the look with super aggressive grille. The redesign looks horrible IMO

But I have always favored the mustang 2010 and beyond over the camaro. I do still like the 15-17 front ends better, but the update looks good too.
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I think we're just getting old. In 1987, a loaded Mustang GT MSRP'd for around $16,000. The 2018 Mustang GT base model, which has a ton more features than the 1987 model and is light years better in every way, MSRP's for right at $35,000. $16,000 in 1987 is worth $35,000 today.

What is interesting though is how one can add nearly $20K in options in a Mustang GT. LOL. Ford has become like z-Germans.
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