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2018 Kia Stinger GT Long-Term Update 5: Can a Kia Replace an Audi?

How our long-term Stinger GT matches up to an Audi A5 Sportback

Kia benchmarked the Audi A5/S5 Sportback when develop**ing the Stinger. In truth, the Stinger platform was co-developed alongside the Genesis G70, and Hyundai/Kia/Genesis very wisely choose to physically differentiate the two by making the Stinger's wheelbase 3 inches longer. Rather than get into the messy subject of platform sharing, Kia just came out with the odd notion that it's chasing after a car that sells something like 10,000 units per year between two models (A5 and S5) in the U.S. A weird car to single out, I agree, but it is what they say it is.



I do not own an Audi A5 or S5 Sportback, but I do happen to own (well, lease) an A4 Allroad. The A4 Allroad and A5 Sportback have the same engine, wheelbase, basically everything save for what's behind the C-pillar. Living with both cars as I have been for half a year, I'm in a somewhat unique position to compare and contrast the two. Here are some big-picture observations. Please keep in mind, this isn't quite an apples-to-apples comparison.
Where the Kia Beats the Audi

Price. As you'd imagine, you can tick every single box on the Stinger GT and come out right around the starting point for an S5 Sportback (about $53,000 or thereabouts in each case). A Prestige package S5 Sportback starts at $61K and goes up. Should you have a fully optioned Allroad like me, you're looking at $58K. Our RWD GT2 showed up with a $50,100 price tag.
Steering feel. Unlike the Audi, the Kia can (thankfully) be had as a rear-driver. Unless you really, truly, totally—be honest now—need AWD, I beg, plead, and implore you to go with the rear-drive Stinger. I've driven both versions back to back, and the RWD version steers, drives, and feels so much better. The rear-driver is 150 pounds lighter, and all of that extra heft sits over the front wheels. As for the Audis, all are Quattro (except for the loss-leader $349-a-month lease specials that are FWD), and although they drive well, there's no replacement for a proper rear-driver. Just the facts.




Where the Audi and Kia Are Equal

Street presence. Although Audi's design language may be a little long in the tooth, there's no denying how handsome and well executed the B9 A4/A5 family is. The Allroad (obviously!) looks the best, especially in Gottland Green. The Stinger helped redefine not only how people think of Korean automobiles, but also how said cars look. I've lost track of how many times I've heard a form of, "That's a Kia?" The Stinger's metal is quite premium-looking. The only downside to driving the Kia is that lots of people will come up and quiz you about it at gas stations. Of course, maybe you think that's a good thing?
Where the Audi Beats the Kia

Infotainment. Audi's Virtual Cockpit is still the benchmark in the segment. It not only looks premium, it works. And you can just write out addresses (or whatever) on the scroll wheel. Moreover, no maps beat Google Maps. That's just how it is. Kia's software, by way of counterpoint, is average (better than Infiniti, worse than Mercedes) at best, and is found in much less premium offerings. Some even have Hyundai badges.
Interior quality. With 20,000 miles on the odometers of both cars, I can tell you that the Audi's leather feels nicer, the seats feel better padded, and the interior trim looks better and more premium. Even the black plastics in the Audi appear to be holding up better. There's nothing wrong with the Kia, it's just that after a year-plus of use, the Audi feels and seems higher quality. Maybe this is where the extra money goes?


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Kia Runs 11.9 Mods JB4, SSR Downpipes, SSR muffler deletes, AP intakes.

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Well here we go! Final testing on the Pure Turbos stage2 turbo upgrades for the Stinger GT. There are still tuning advancements that will come available as the platform ages for a little more power but we have pushed this setup to its limits and ended up with 480whp and 575lb/ft of torque at 26psi holy crap! Keep in mind this car bone stock made 299whp and 384lb/ft of torque. Nearly a 200increase on both sides when these stage2 are still rather small. I foresee another larger set being made if these prove good results at the track. Street testing is pointless with no traction in lower gears so we are at the mercy of the weather holding up. Thanks to pure turbos to trusting us with efficient data and good testing comparisons and thanks to Burger Motorsports for helping dial in the methanol and boost control along with Pressertech for the bench flash and assisting us with torque limitations and throttle control. Our issue before was too much torque and the factory setting on the ecu would cause the throttle to close and hesitate horribly between shifts which should be solved now. This is certainly an awesome platform with the amount of abuse we have thrown at it and it hasn’t given us one mechanical problem. We would expect this setup to be around 530-540hp and over 625trq on a dynojet. This is all while still going through a 2.5” exhaust system all the way back. Stay tuned for more updates!
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Looks like Lap3 and JB4 tuned cars were running side by side today.



Here were their best times and mods
12.15 @119.56, @Get Stung, (Panthera) 7.94 @92.04, 1.927
AWD, JB4 Map5, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane+ Boostane


12.23 @ 116.26, @ScottyCole, (Ceramic Silver) 7.98 @91.03, 1.95


AWD, Lap3 Pro, K&N Intakes, UP HFC down/mid, Borla Catback, 93 octane + E85




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As I'm pushing the limits of mine, I'm discovering more and more nannies in the ECU/TCU.

The car needs an actual flash tune for either, to control the shift points, launch control, and speed of shifts. I could send mine to Tork and have them put their stage 2 flash, and piggy back it with my current JB4 to fine tune it and my WMI, and that would probably solve issues I'm running in to at my power level. The reason why very few have broken in to the 11's is because of the ecu/tcu restrictions from the factory. I wish there was a local track because I'm sure I would be at the top of the RWD cars that retain factory turbos and 0 ecu flash.

I still love the car, but as I'm producing more power, its frustrating that I can't fully make use of it imo.
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KIA STINGER RECEIVES FIRST-EVER J.D. POWER ENGINEERING AWARD FOR HIGHEST RATED ALL-NEW VEHICLE



Award Focused on Excellence in Automotive Engineering Bestowed on the Highest Performing Vehicle in Kia’s History
IRVINE, Calif., April 15, 2019 -- After ushering in a dynamic new era for Kia Motors, the 2018 Stinger sportback has been awarded the first-ever J.D. Power Engineering Award for Highest-Rated All-New Vehicle. Based on combined consumer evaluations included in the J.D. Power Initial Quality SM and APEALSM Studies, Kia is the first OEM to be recognized by J.D. Power for delivering the highest-rated new entry into the market for a model year.
“The Stinger is the result of years of hard work and dedication from the industry’s top designers and engineers. We turned what was once considered a dream car into a startling and enthralling new reality,” said Michael Cole, chief operating officer & EVP, Kia Motors America. “Being the first auto manufacturer to receive this prestigious award from J.D. Power, an organization known for excellence in research, is a true testament to Kia’s ‘Give It Everything’ philosophy.”
The J.D. Power Engineering Award for Highest-Rated All-New Vehicle combines the results of two well-known J.D. Power studies, the Initial Quality Study (IQS) which measures new-vehicle quality by the number of problems experienced per 100 vehicles (PP100) as reported by consumers during the first 90 days of ownership; and the J.D. Power Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) award, which measures new-vehicle owners’ overall satisfaction with their vehicles within the first 90 days of ownership. Categories evaluated include exterior, interior, storage, audio, seats, heating and ventilation, driving dynamics, powertrain, visibility, and fuel economy.
“This is the first time J.D. Power has analyzed customer data in order to identify a remarkable achievement by a vehicle development team,” said Doug Betts, senior vice president of global automotive at J.D. Power. “This is feedback on both the quality and the performance of the vehicle taken straight from the owners of the vehicle. What we are seeing is a team of designers, R&D engineers and a manufacturing team that are working very effectively together to launch something quite exceptional.”
About Kia Motors America
Headquartered in Irvine, California, Kia Motors America continues to top quality surveys and is recognized as one of the 100 Best Global Brands and 50 Best Global Green Brands by Interbrand. Kia serves as the "Official Automotive Partner" of the NBA and offers a complete range of vehicles sold through a network of nearly 800 dealers in the U.S., including cars and SUVs proudly assembled in West Point, Georgia.*
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*The Telluride, Sorento and Optima (excluding Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid) are assembled in the United States from U.S. and globally sourced parts.
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2020 Kia Stinger GTS Is an Orange Special Edition with a Drift Mode up Its Sleeve

A newly optional D-AWD system can now send up to 100 percent of the power rearward for those who want both AWD traction and tail-out antics.




  • The Kia Stinger is getting a new special edition called the GTS with a few appearance tweaks and an optional all-wheel-drive system with a Drift mode.
  • To differentiate itself from the Stinger's conventional all-wheel-drive system, the GTS's "D-AWD" setup has selectable modes to control how much power is sent to the rear wheels.
  • The Stinger GTS should arrive sometime this spring or summer with a price estimated to start at $44,995 for the RWD model and $47,495 for the D-AWD car.
Kia's Stinger sports sedan is getting a new optional all-wheel-drive system with a Drift mode. The "D-AWD" setup is will be offered only on a new special-edition model for 2020 that's called the Stinger GTS, which essentially amounts to an appearance package for the V-6 Stinger otherwise and will also come in a rear-wheel-drive model.
D-AWD doesn't seem too different from the standard Stinger's already rear-biased optional AWD system, but its key distinction is that it offers three selectable modes that control how much torque from the twin-turbo 3.3-liter V-6 is sent to the rear wheels. Comfort mode puts the split at 60 percent rear, Sport mode sends 80 percent rearward, and Drift mode sends 100 percent to the rear (the non-D-AWD system can only send up to 80 percent of the power rearward). GTS D-AWD Stingers also get a standard limited-slip differential, previously available only on the RWD Stinger, and Kia says that it has changed mapping for the transmission, stability control, and steering to work with this new system.


The idea of a drift-oriented all-wheel-drive system might sound weird given that the standard rear-wheel-drive Stinger is perfectly capable of drifting on its own. But we suppose it makes it so that those who want AWD traction won't miss out on any tail-out shenanigans if they so please.


The other GTS tweaks amount to a special orange exterior color; different badging on the rear with a GTS emblem and a "Stinger" script to replace the Kia logo; carbon-fiber bits of trim for the mirrors, grille, and side vents; and faux-suede pieces for the steering wheel, center console, and headliner.


We appreciate Kia's pricing strategy for the GTS, which places it somewhere in between the GT and GT1 trims for the current car. Equipped with a sunroof and a Harman/Kardon audio system, the GTS has an estimated starting price of $44,995 for the RWD car and $47,495 for the D-AWD car.
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