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Not until you say it.

JW is correct and Brian is wrong.

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Trump in 2016: 'I love WikiLeaks,' Trump now: 'I know nothing about WikiLeaks'

President Donald Trump, when asked if he still "loves" WikiLeaks as he said in 2016, told reporters in the Oval Office that he knows "nothing about WikiLeaks."

"I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It's not my thing and I know there is something having to do with Julian Assange. I've been seeing what's happened with Assange," Trump told reporters while meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, referring to the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
Assange was arrested Thursday morning in London after Ecuador revoked his diplomatic asylum claim. He has been charged with helping the former Army intelligence specialist Chelsea Manning access Defense Department computers in 2010 in an effort to disclose secret government documents, the US Justice Department announced Thursday morning, hours after Assange was forcibly removed by authorities from the Ecuadoran embassy in London.

Trump on Thursday repeatedly denied knowledge about WikiLeaks and Assange. But, in fact, Trump has a history of supporting WikiLeaks, saying at one rally in 2016: "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
During the campaign, Trump routinely applauded WikiLeaks for its role in disseminating the contents of internal communications stolen from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign. He even publicly encouraged the Russians "to find the 30,000 emails (from Hillary Clinton's server) that are missing."
Still, Trump said Thursday he knows "nothing" about Assange or WikiLeaks.
"I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It's not my thing and I know there is something having to do with Julian Assange," he said. "I've been seeing what's happened with Assange, and that will be a determination. I would imagine mostly by the attorney general, who is doing an excellent job. So he'll be making a determination. I know nothing really about him. That's not my deal in life."
"I don't really have an opinion," Trump asked when reporters continued to ask questions.
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Meh.

Probably one of his speech writers threw that line in for him at some point and he just doesnít recall it.

Move along.
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Meh.
Probably one of his speech writers threw that line in for him at some point and he just doesn’t recall it.
Move along.
dude you cannot honestly believe that... (start at 4:13 for a dozen examples of Trump praising Wikileaks and discussing his "love" for it...)
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this wasn't a single throwaway line, it was a central part of the argument of his campaign throughout October 2016
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this wasn't a single throwaway line, it was a central part of the argument of his campaign throughout October 2016

You want the partisan troll answer, or the truth?



Iím uncertain if itís calculated omission of the truth, or blubbering idiot.

Still voting for him in 2020 though because itís better than any Democrat candidate. Iíll never vote for the socialist movement of the left even if I have to eat a shit sandwich of a candidate from the right to do so.
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You want the partisan troll answer, or the truth?



Iím uncertain if itís calculated omission of the truth, or blubbering idiot.

Still voting for him in 2020 though because itís better than any Democrat candidate. Iíll never vote for the socialist movement of the left even if I have to eat a shit sandwich of a candidate from the right to do so.
The mere fact that anyone would ever have to wonder this about a current president is frightening.

So how far are you willing to go to not vote for "socialism"? Do you not see any potential issues with both sides of the isle essentially having this same mindset and the kinds of candidates that would be voted in due to the extreme fear of the "other" side? Given what you said about eating a shit sandwich t would seem you already agree this process began with Trump.
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The mere fact that anyone would ever have to wonder this about a current president is frightening.

So how far are you willing to go to not vote for "socialism"? Do you not see any potential issues with both sides of the isle essentially having this same mindset and the kinds of candidates that would be voted in due to the extreme fear of the "other" side? Given what you said about eating a shit sandwich t would seem you already agree this process began with Trump.


Pretty much as far as I have to. Stop reading and listening to all the BS in the media. Weíre not in near the place those that get paid to hype their side of the news up would like us to think we are.

Once you turn all that crap off and remove those that spew it from your social media, life becomes a lot more drama free.
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Pretty much as far as I have to. Stop reading and listening to all the BS in the media. Weíre not in near the place those that get paid to hype their side of the news up would like us to think we are.

Once you turn all that crap off and remove those that spew it from your social media, life becomes a lot more drama free.
We're undoubtedly in the midst of one of the biggest transitions in American history. How long it lasts and where it ultimately leads us is another story but changes are painful and neither "side" is ever going to back down from the other. It doesn't take much foresight to see possible outcomes of this.

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I hear this all the time but I actually never watch or listen to the news. I read articles and gleam factual information and peoples words from them. Having someone like Trump in office is scary and honestly it should be scarier than it already is but I won't bother rehashing 100 bullet points for that conclusion.

I feel like this Assange thing will be used to bring certain things to light which might actually end up helping Trump. Hopefully that will be a catalyst for meaningful change instead of an opportunity for a power grab.
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We're undoubtedly in the midst of one of the biggest transitions in American history. How long it lasts and where it ultimately leads us is another story but changes are painful and neither "side" is ever going to back down from the other. It doesn't take much foresight to see possible outcomes of this.

You can go back through every singe decade over the past 100 years and see similar events and say the same thing. You are just caught up in your own imagined reality.

I wouldnít even call the events of today as top ten transitional times for us.
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You can go back through every singe decade over the past 100 years and see similar events and say the same thing. You are just caught up in your own imagined reality.

I wouldnít even call the events of today as top ten transitional times for us.
So do you not believe Trump is going to MAGA then? That would seem pretty significant to me being as that is the core belief among many of his supporters. That he was averting disaster when he caused Hilary to lose. If this is indeed true then this would be a very pivotal moment in American history.

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Obviously I don't see it that was but I can understand why others do. Could not be the same said about you and other Trump supporters and your dire fears of socialism which caused Trump to be elected in the first place?
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So do you not believe Trump is going to MAGA then? That would seem pretty significant to me being as that is the core belief among many of his supporters. That he was averting disaster when he caused Hilary to lose. If this is indeed true then this would be a very pivotal moment in American history.



Obviously I don't see it that was but I can understand why others do. Could not be the same said about you and other Trump supporters and your dire fears of socialism which caused Trump to be elected in the first place?


America has always been great, at least for me and my family it has. MAGA is just a catch phrase, and a rallying cry for his supporters like me. I’d love to see some things done on his agenda which I believe will make things even better for us.


I don’t have any fear of anything. Just wanting to ensure my children and grandchildren have the best possible country to live in long after I’m gone. I’m 46 years old, on solid financial ground, and nothing could realistically change that other than myself making poor choices.

It’s a great time to be alive.

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America has always been great, at least for me and my family it has. MAGA is just a catch phrase, and a rallying cry for his supporters like me. Iíd love to see some things done on his agenda which I believe will make things even better for us.


I donít have any fear of anything. Just wanting to ensure my children and grandchildren have the best possibly country to live in long after Iím gone. Iím 46 years old, on solid financial ground, and nothing could realistically change that other than myself making poor choices.

Itís a great time to be alive.
This may be how you view things and I would have agreed before the election but this was far from your average Trump supporters point of view. MAGA was a callback to some past era, real or imagined, when America had a booming middle class. When everyone had money and people weren't so uptight about racism/sexism. The overwhelming sentiment was that if Hilary would have won we'd already be knee deep in WWIII and this is the right's last chance to "take our country back". You don't get something like Qanon out of a situation that everyone thinks is great. Things have to be pretty dire in the minds of people who believe the guy they voted for is waging a secret behind the scenes war against evil itself.

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Still voting for him in 2020 though because itís better than any Democrat candidate. Iíll never vote for the socialist movement of the left even if I have to eat a shit sandwich of a candidate from the right to do so.
Seem to be pretty deadset on not voting D even though we are a year out from really getting to know all the candidates and surely they can't all be "socialist" and at least one of them won't be a shit sandwich. You fear something about them enough that it made you take such a definitive position as to rather vote for terrible R than any D.
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