Mirror Finish Polishing ~ 1-816-529-6089 ~ sales@mirrorfinishpolishing.com ~ mirrorfinishpolishing.com For the best rate on home, auto, life or business/commercial insurance call me at 888-959-0955, cell 636-734-1310 or bricehazelwood@weiss-ins.com. Never Done Garage - donewhenimdead.com Peerless Automotive Reconditioning - 1155 W. Dennis Ave, Olathe Ks, 66061 - 913-893-1201 Mark H. Epstein ~ The Epstein Law Firm, LLC ~ 913-396-5123 Wilkes Automotive ~ wilkesautomotive.com ~ 246 Marion St, Olathe, KS 66061 ~ 913-254-7171 Skandalous Inc ~ www.skandalousinc.com DIY Auto Repair Inc ~ www.diyautorepairkc.com ~ 11509 Strangline Rd, Olathe KS 66062 ~ 913-226-3806 Your advertisement here! The Law Offices of Jeremiah Johnson, LLC ~ 104 E. Poplar, Olathe, KS 66061 ~ (913)764-5010 ~ www.kcatty.com - www.johnsoncountydui.com ~ jeremiah@kcatty.com Santa Fe Body, Inc ~ 8717 Lenexa Drive, Overland Park, KS 66214 ~ (913) 894-6090 House of Boost LLC Nude? HouseofHID.com - The #1 source for HID The Print Shop KC 816.200.6694 or Ryan@RMD-Photography.com the art of tyleR ~ http://tyleR.bigcartel.com ~ TYLERcoey.com ~ MUTTtoy.com ~ MUTTtoy@gmail.com W-K Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Cadillac GMC ~ 3310 W. Broadway, Sedalia, MO 65301 ~ 800-382-5088 ~ Cell 660-553-8928 ~ dustin@wkchevy.com ~ www.wkchevy.com

Go Back   KCSR - THE Kansas City Forum > General Forums > Movies, Music, TV, Books

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 2018-06-13, 08:15 AM   #101
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM Director Ruben Fleischer Teases Tom Hardy's Dual Performance And The Chances Of A Spider-Man Cameo

Venom director Ruben Fleischer talks here about his inspirations for the movie, how Tom Hardy is essentially playing two characters, and whether or not there's a chance we'll see Spider-Man show up...

There's not a great deal of excitement surrounding Venom right now and that's mostly because fans would much rather see the character swing into the Marvel Cinematic Universe to do battle with Spider-Man. However, director Ruben Fleischer may finally get you excited about what's to come.

"Venom is unique within the canon of Marvel," the filmmaker said when asked why he's a fan of the character. "You can't say there are a lot of other heroes like him. There's something about the tone of Venom that's darker and more menacing. He's not a conventional superhero by any stretch." Some fans are bound to take issue with Venom called a "hero" when he's one of Spidey's greatest foes!

Regardless, Fleischer does have some pretty dark inspirations for the movie as he adds, "Among my influences were John Carpenter, David Cronenberg, even An American Werewolf In London. Unlike most superheroes who get bitten by a spider or invent their own Batsuit, Venom is really the combination of two beings to create a third." Apparently, that's going to be reflected in Hardy's performance, something the recently released trailer for the movie definitely promised would happen.

"Tom's just so incredibly entertaining to watch. Duality is clearly something that fascinates him, so when you watch the way he's acting opposite himself, it's really impressive; just how he's able to conjure an entirely separate version of himself as the symbiote. It's a tour de force performance."

Finally, talk turned to the possibility of a cameo from Tom Holland's Spider-Man, something which has been rumoured to be the case for a while now. As expected, though, it doesn't sound as if that's actually going to happen in Venom. "This feels very much like Venom's movie. It's the introduction of the character. As to where it will go in future movies, and who he'll run across, I can't say."
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-06-26, 01:59 PM   #102
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

'Venom' Trailer Has More Views Than Any Spider-Man Trailer Ever


Sony's Venom movie hasn't generated the sort of buzz that all the other 2018 Marvel movies (and DC movie) have, but stay woke: Venom is quietly generating its own milestones. As Screen Crush's Matt Singer points out, Venom has (as of writing this) earned more YouTube views than any other Spider-Man movie, ever!

The Venom official trailer currently sits at 64 million views on YouTube - that's more than any other movie in the Spider-Man franchise (since YouTube's launch), as you can see below:

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - 37M
Spider-Man: Homecoming - 28M
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (25M)
The Amazing Spider-Man (3D) - 13M

If this proves anything, it's that Sony is at least on the pulse when it comes to Venom's viability as a potential crossover hit character. It's not just the anti-hero's staying power as a comic book icon (and merchandising brand). The combination of the Spider-Man franchise being revitalized by the Marvel Cinematic Universe's Spider-Man: Homecoming, and the popularity of comic book anti-heroes at the moment (thanks in large part to the Deadpool movies), has opened the lane for a franchise like Venom to come through and cash in big.
The question is: have Sony and Venom director Ruben Fleischer put together a film that will capitalize on that potential?
So far, the reaction to Venom has been somewhat mixed. For every person intrigued by a more horror-themed vision of a Spider-Man character, there seems to be a comic book fan whose highly annoyed by the lack of canon in this adaptation; the lack of attention to details like how to pronounce the word "symbiote"; or the fact that Venom is not at all connected to the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe.


Of course, fan buzz is usually highly critical of some aspect of an upcoming comic book movie - and as stated, Venom's appeal as a horror-themed superhero movie checks a lot of the top boxes, in terms of box office potential. While there's been a lot of talk this year about audiences possibly burning-out on superhero movies, there will be a stretch of time between when Marvel's Ant-Man and the Wasp hits theaters in early July, and when Venom arrives in early October, leading the Halloween movie wave. All of those factors could lean heavily in Venom's favor - especially if a third trailer really knocks it out of the park with its finalized footage of the Venom symbiote(s) in action.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-13, 07:34 PM   #103
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM Is Grinning From Ear To Ear In These Two Wicked New Photos From The Spider-Man Spinoff

With Comic-Con just a week away, we've seen a lot of new photos today and the latest pair comes to us from Sony Pictures' highly-anticipated Venom, which stars Tom Hardy as the titular anti-hero.





Entertainment Weekly, as part of their Comic-Con preview issue, has shared a brand new look at Ruben Fleischer's upcoming Venom, featuring a wicked new photo of the titular antihero played by Academy Award-nominee Tom Hardy.

While speaking with EW, Hardy shared a few intriguing details about what excited him most when signing on for the fan-favorite role. “As far as Marvel characters, I have to say for me, Venom looks the coolest." He admits with a laugh before adding,"That sounds a bit shallow! But I appreciate that he has a kind of brazen swagger and a zero foxtrot attitude.” He continues on to explain how he approached the task of differentiating the down on his luck Eddie Brock from the raging monster within. “It’s a bit like Ren and Stimpy, you know?," he jokes before he delves deeper into his actual mindset,"They have different sounds. I always saw Venom as sounding like a James Brown lounge lizard, and Eddie Brock is kind of…” — he switches to an aw-shucks American accent — “I don’t know, an everyday kind of guy. But he’s inherited this massive ego, this beast.” And that beast is unlike any superhero, in the loosest sense of the term, to have ever graced the silver screen with morals that are questionable at best. "There’s that biting-off-heads issue, which is not what you would expect from, say, Captain America taking down a crook.

Fleischer (Zombieland) joins him to promise a comic book movie that will fully embrace the character's violent tendencies as well as the horror he tends to leave in his wake. “We talked a lot about a werewolf and what it is when you get infected or bitten by a werewolf.” He adds, “Usually a human gets imbued with powers or an alien comes from outer space and has to figure out how to live on our Earth. But this is really about a relationship between two people who have to work together to create this hybrid symbiotic relationship.



One of Marvel's most enigmatic, complex and badass characters comes to the big screen, starring Academy Award® nominated actor Tom Hardy as the lethal protector Venom.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-13, 07:40 PM   #104
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Venom is Not Part of Marvel & Sony's Spider-Man Movie Deal



Sony's Venom is not going to be connected to Tom Holland's Spider-Man or the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The studio found another chance to reboot Spider-Man after agreeing to a deal with Marvel Studios to share the character. They brought Holland in as Peter Parker and he's made three appearances so far, but Sony wants more. They're developing multiple "Spider-Man spinoffs" that revolve around characters from Spidey's side of Marvel comics. To kick this off, Tom Hardy is set to take on his most iconic anti-hero.

Hardy is starring in Venom as the Eddie Brock version of the character. In the film, he's a journalist investigating a mysterious organization until he gains his new abilities. Thanks to Venom's ties to Spider-Man in the comics, there's been plenty of debate of whether or not the film will connect to Holland and the MCU in any way. There's been rumors of Holland appearing and even some confusing statements made by those involved, but it appears Venom will not have this connectivity.



EW released some new information and photos for Venom and in their coverage clarified the film's relation to the MCU. This lines up with most of the official word out of Marvel Studios, specifically from Kevin Feige, but some are still questioning the legitimacy. Based on this report, there will be no connection between the characters or universes. Here is the relevant excerpt from their report:

Venom is the first of Sony’s new films based on characters from the Spider-Man comics, although it’s a separate world from last year’s Spider-Man: Homecoming. (It’s also not part of the deal between Sony and Disney that allows Tom Holland’s Spidey into the Marvel Cinematic Universe).


The confusion over Venom started when Amy Pascal said it and Silver & Black are adjuncts to the MCU. She later clarified her statement and said Venom isn't in the MCU though. Since then, she's only added to the misunderstandings by saying Venom takes place in the same reality as the MCU. She's even left the door open for Holland's Spider-Man and Hardy's Venom to crossover down the line.

This is not how those involved with Marvel Studios talk about the project however. Feige's said repeatedly that Venom isn't an MCU property and is strictly with Sony. He's made it clear that Venom isn't part of his growing cinematic universe, even to the point where he became a meme thanks to his surprised response to some of Pascal's statements. As of right now, most of the signs point to Venom being a standalone film from Sony with no connection to the MCU. Is it possible they're just trying to hide a surprise? Maybe, but this back and forth is a lot to go through just try and keep something a secret that has been rumored for a while. Then again, Marvel's also the studio that isn't confirming Phase 4 plans until after Avengers 4, so who knows. At this point, don't expect Venom to tie into the MCU when it comes out later this year.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-18, 03:17 PM   #105
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Kids Love Venom,’ Avi Arad Says of Adult-Aimed Film






Despite Sony’s promotion Venom, the Tom Hardy-led film based on Spider-Man’s longtime nemesis, as a full-on action/horror affair, a new comment by one of the film’s producers has us questioning whether the movie will be an R-rated release as it has been rumored.
In a recent article on Vulture running down the ins and outs of Sony’s planned “Spider-Verse” slate of films, producer Avi Arad makes a comment that indicates the studio may have softened somewhat on its desire to follow in Deadpool and Logan‘s adult-rated footsteps.

“This is an origin story and we have to try and make it the beginning of a long journey,” Arad told Vulture, explaining Sony’s approach to the Spider-Man spinoff film. “Kids love Venom. It’s something about it that attracts the anti-hero sensibility. So we are very excited.”
That doesn’t exactly sound like Venom is going to be the blood-soaked, high-action horror fest the character’s fans have been hoping for.
To be fair, an R-rating for Venom was never officially announced by Sony (though the studio hasn’t denied the rumor, either). Even when Collider first reported the “adults only” rating was being considered for the project waaaay back in early 2017, it hedged its bets by making it clear that things can and often do change.



One reason the change may have taken place is Tom Holland’s rumored appearance in the film. Though Spider-Man was originally, explicitly not a part of the movie’s storyline, rumors have persisted in recent months that Holland may have filmed a scene for Venom after all. And while it makes perfect sense for Spidey to be involved in the origin story of his biggest foe in some manner, the idea of Marvel Studios or Sony signing off on the most kid-friendly superhero on the planet playing a role in an adult-themed horror movie just doesn’t make a lot of sense. If the appearance, cameo or otherwise, turns out to be real, we should expect Venom to aim no higher than a PG-13 rating.

Of course, there’s also the question of what Arad actually means by the word “kids.” Though his background as the CEO of Toy Biz might lead one to believe he’s referring to the pre-adolescent set, having targeted them in marketing for years, it’s entirely possible he’s talking about audiences in their mid-20s. Hell, I’m only in my mid-40s, and I’ll readily admit to falling victim to the whole “get off my lawn” mentality when it comes to certain things that are popular with the younger set. Considering Arad is significantly older than me, it’s likely his definition of “kids” is even broader than mine, in this instance at least.

__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-21, 08:32 PM   #106
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

The VENOM Movie Makes The Symbiote The Superhero









Forget everything you think you know about Venom, because this symbiote is actually the HERO of this grisly story. From the first rumors of a Venom movie, words like 'antihero' or 'villain' have been throw around in reference to the titular hybrid - suggesting that Eddie Brock and his symbiote are a far cry from your typical superhero.
But as more details concerning Venom continue to emerge (like the evil symbiote Riot set to appear) it's seeming more and more likely that Sony is adapting the later, more developed origin story of Venom. The story in which the Venom symbiote isn't the reason that Eddie feels unhinged. And in which the Venom symbiote is the only hero powerful enough to save Earth from his symbiote kin - providing Eddie can rise to its own level.

Seeing Eddie sweating and screaming as a voice takes hold of his mind, or violently injuring his enemies and acting dumbfounded are highly effective in making the Venom story seem werewolf-esque in nature. But looks can be deceiving. Let us explain just how The VENOM Movie Makes The Symbiote The Superhero.
For Starters, The Symbiote Was Never The Villain




One of the most common misconceptions about the Venom symbiote (likely due to the Spider-Man 3 movie) is that the alien symbiote itself is villainous, malicious, or just downright evil in nature. In reality, fans know that to say the symbiote "corrupted" Eddie isn't accurate at all. In fact, the opposite might be true.
As the story unfolded the first time around, Spider-Man brought the symbiote suit back to Earth, and had it removed when Mr. Fantastic discovered it was actually alive. Not evil, just a living thing. Eventually it escaped and found its way to Eddie Brock, a man with other legitimate beefs against Peter Parker. On the surface, one could look at the trailers for Venom and assume it has done the same to Eddie on film, just with a different target for his hatred.
But that might not be right, considering the bigger truth about the symbiotes that eventually came to light in the comics.
The Symbiotes Are a Force for Good, Not Evil




Over time, the larger mythology of the symbiote-- well, the symbiotes was expanded, revealing that it wasn't a cosmic virus, or infection. It was just one of an entire planet of symbiotes. Which means it's about time we started calling these symbiotes by their actual name: the Klyntar.


Born of a planet bearing the same name, the symbiotes were about as far from villainous or an 'infection' as you can get. Their goal in life was to attach to a living organism, and form a symbiotic relationship (hence the name). The creature could spread the Klyntar's reach, while the Klyntar helped the organism to do things never thought possible. Give it power, give it purpose, and protect it as much as it would protect itself.


That may even mean using deadly force to protect the host, assuming that host has the necessary makeup to do it. Which makes it easy to misread Eddie's horror at the behavior "Venom" is exhibiting in the movie's trailers. But the biggest source of confusion may be in the other alien symbiotes wreaking havoc in the film.


Symbiotes who may be part of the same evil, violent, murderous tribe to which the Venom symbiote used to belong...


<img class=" lazyloaded">

Venom Trailers Show The Real Villain Symbiotes?

If you don't know these intricacies of Venom's alien origins, don't feel bad - most people don't. Even fans may not know that the Klyntar made it their mission to form a group known as the Agents of the Cosmos. A group of powerful, noble, supremely heroic hosts who, once merged with Symbiotes, would work to bring peace to the universe. Unfortunately, even a plan that optimistic is eventually foiled. Not by Symbiotes who are evil to start with, but made so after merging with hosts who desire nothing less than interstellar peace.


Over time, these Venom-like symbiote pairs forged an alliance of their own, intent on conquering and consuming everything that the Klyntar sought to safeguard. They called themselves the Symbiote Imperium, and after being twisted into a hateful, violent symbiote, the alien half of Venom joined their ranks. Which may help to explain exactly how the Venom symbiote comes to Earth - and how a variety of other Symbiotes, including the murderous Venom-like symbiote Riot follow close behind on the upcoming movie.
In the comics, Riot and the other evil Symbiotes we expect to see in Venom were actually extracted from the titular symbiote. However, even the pseudo-science of comic books may have a hard time explaining the extraction of "seeds" from the Venom symbiote as their origin - when shoeing them arriving from the same corner of space is infinitely simpler.


Whether born of the torture inflicted upon the Venom symbiote, or corrupted agents of an evil Klyntar sect, there's only one thing that can stop Riot and its friends from rampaging across the Earth: Venom.
The Symbiote is Protecting Eddie (as The Actual Hero)

<img class=" lazyloaded">

So, why would these villainous Venom-esque monsters want to kill Venom? Assuming they're separate Symbiotes who came to earth alongside it, the Symbiote Imperium of the comics also wanted Venom dead. Where they saw it as their mandate to take a host, consume its life force until it withered and died, then take another, the Venom symbiote was different. Too twisted (beyond its own control to prevent it) to be accepted by the Klyntar, but not evil enough to be accepted by the Imperium.
The Venom symbiote felt a desire to protect its host, eventually explaining its devotion as anything but a "werewolf-like" hostile takeover:
"The bond between a Klyntar and its host is sacred. They give our lives context and our existence meaning. They give us history. All we have are our hosts to tell us who we are."
Considering how vulnerable Eddie actually is, the symbiote may be the only thing to save him. After all, the trailers show him moments from death multiple times, only to be saved by the symbiote.


<img class=" lazyloaded">

Assuming the people trying to kill Eddie for investigating the Life Foundation's symbiote experiments are the villains of the movie, that implies the symbiote is the one playing the hero in rescuing Eddie.


So perhaps we should read the scene in which Eddie is covered by the symbiote, and warns a goon that "We Are... Venom" a bit differently. Not as Eddie succumbing to the dark influence of the symbiote, but allowing it to make him into the hero it was born to create.


Lets just hope Eddie Brock is enough of a hero to make it work - because the symbiote has a head start.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-21, 09:05 PM   #107
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Confirmed: Venom DOESN'T Have Spider-Symbol On His Chest







It's now been confirmed that Tom Hardy's Venom won't be comic-book-accurate in one crucial respect; his symbiotic form won't bear the spider-symbol. Sony Pictures' Venom may be an origin story for the tongue-slavering antihero, but the studio has rewritten the classic comic book version for the big screen.
Sony doesn't appear to want - or be able to - use Spider-Man in the film, meaning this version of the Venom symbiote never bonded with Peter Parker. While smart storytelling will allow Venom to become the wall-crawler fans know and love, that nonetheless means there will be real differences between the Venom of the comics and the one seen on the big screen.

Footage shown at San Diego Comic-Con 2018 has confirmed that this will lead to one very visible change. In general, Sony's Venom is remarkably comic book accurate, with a pitch-black costume that looks strangely organic. In the comics, though, this costume is complemented by a massive white spider-symbol, adding a sense of contrast to Venom's appearance. This is entirely absent from the movie version of Venom.


The sad truth is that, from a story perspective, this absence makes perfect sense. In the comics, there's a simple reason the spider-symbol is on Venom's chest. It's because the symbiote's first human host was actually Peter Parker, and it simulated a black Spider-Man costume on Peter's behalf. Peter eventually rejected the symbiote when he realized that it was affecting his hormones and making him more aggressive. That left a deep psychological scar upon the symbiote, leading to its bearing the spider-symbol in almost all future iterations. Naturally, given Spider-Man doesn't actually seem to be in Venom at all, the big-screen version of the symbiote will never bond with Peter. It would make absolutely no sense for the symbiote to then generate a spider-symbol. Instead, this version of Venom is simply pitch-black, with the only whites being the highlights around his eyes.
Oddly enough, there is still a comic book precedent for this look. The modernized "Ultimate Comics" version of Venom doesn't have a symbol either; what's more, just as in the Venom trailer, this version tended to use symbiotic tendrils rather than webs. These comics portrayed the symbiote as more of a monster in its own right, rather than a being that had been scarred by rejection. It's entirely possible the movie version of Venom lifts liberally from the Ultimate Comics range, which would certainly fit with the changed visuals.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4

Last edited by JDLM; 2018-07-21 at 09:08 PM..
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-21, 09:14 PM   #108
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Riz Ahmed is Playing Riot in Sony's Venom Movie









Footage from Ruben Fleischer's upcoming Venom movie that was shown at San Diego Comic-Con 2018 has confirmed that Riot, another symbiote, will be featured. Riot is a symbiote that can jump from host to host, but for at least part of the movie it will be in control of Riz Ahmed's character, Carlton Drake.


Riot made its first appearance in the comic series Venom: Lethal Protector (upon which Fleischer's movie is mostly based), as one of five symbiotes who are effectively the "children" of Venom, created using extracts from the original symbiote. Footage shown during Sony's Comic-Con panel included a scene in which Venom battles another symbiote, and afterwards Fleischer clarified that it was Riot. The movie will likely also feature some, if not all, of Riot's sibling symbiotes: Scream, Phage, Agony, and Lasher.

Venom is an origin story for the lethal symbiote, and stars Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, a journalist who becomes Venom's host while investigating the sinister Life Foundation. Ahmed's character is a scientist who works for the Life Foundation and experiments on the symbiote after it crash-lands on Earth. Other footage in the Comic-Con sizzle reel showed Drake conducting tests with symbiotes on other subjects - but it seems he will either fall foul of his own experiments, or voluntarily become Riot's host. Fleischer indicated that we'll also see Riot take control of other characters, saying, "He has a unique trait. You don't know where Riot is going to turn up."
<img class=" lazyloaded">

The villain that everyone is expecting to show up in the movie, Carnage, was not confirmed during the panel, though Fleischer did tease that, "There may be other villains in Venom. But we don't want to give it away." A report last month claimed that Carnage will in fact be one of those villains, and there is speculation that Woody Harrelson will be playing Cletus Kasady, Carnage's host. Harrelson has said that he doesn't have much screen time in Venom, but there are plans for him to have a bigger role in the sequel.


Venom occupies a rather odd position in the landscape of superhero movies. Sony and Marvel Studios reached a deal that allowed Spider-Man to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but Venom is not a part of that universe and therefore won't feature Tom Holland's Spider-Man. The footage shown during the panel also confirmed that Hardy's Venom won't have the classic white spider symbol on his chest. However, when asked if Spider-Man and Venom would ever meet and fight, Tom Hardy joked, "Go toe to toe with Tom Holland? I’ll have a go!" Afterwards, on the red carpet, CinemaBlend reports that Fleischer said, "I mean... any true fan of Venom would love to see him go against Spider-Man. So I have to think that's gonna happen at some point."


Unfortunately the footage shown was exclusive to Hall H, and Sony didn't unveil a new trailer for Venom, but we'll be sure to keep you updated on any further news - including confirmation of other symbiote villains.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-22, 03:12 PM   #109
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM Is Absolutely Terrifying In This Monstrous LEAKED Photo From The SDCC Trailer

Since there were unfinished effects in the SDCC trailer for Venom, we probably shouldn't expect it online for a few more weeks, but for those that can't wait, a leaked photo has made its way online...





Even though Marvel Studios sat out San Diego Comic-Con, there's still a very strong possibility that a Marvel movie ends up being the most-talked-about trailer of the weekend.


A new trailer for Ruben Fleischer's Venom debuted last night and was met with a thunderous response from the audience as Sony Pictures finally unleashed the titular antihero (Tom Hardy), who promptly proceeded to deliver brutal beatdowns to a variety of villains, human and symbiote alike, and closed out his showcase by eating a guy's head clean off his body.

Well, actually, it probably wasn't clean.





Unfortunately, that trailer isn't expected to be released online for at least a few more weeks since there are VFX shots that still need to be completed, but one fan has taken it upon himself (or herself) to snap a photo of the titular beast - and he looks quite terrifying as he smiles down at his latest victim
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-23, 11:28 AM   #110
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

'Venom' Star Riz Ahmed Reveals New Details About the Villain


Unlike most comic book movies, Venom centers around an anti-hero, rather than the traditional protagonist. Of course, this type of situation comes with the unique challenge of creating a villain that's unlike the typical bad guy in a superhero movie.

According to Riz Ahmed, who plays Carlton Drake, a.k.a Riot, Venom does exactly that.

During an interview with EW at San Diego Comic-Con, Ahmed talked about what sets Drake apart from other villains that we've seen in the past.

"Well my character is a billionaire industrialist, he's an inventor, he's a bit of a genius, and he's really interested in trying to find a future for humanity as we face ecological collapse and war," Ahmed explained. "For him, the solution lies in colonizing other planets. So it's actually a kind of search for another suitable habitat for humanity, that leads him to the Symbiotes."

Later on in the interview, Ahmed was asked about playing the villain in a film that doesn't exactly have a hero. He responded by saying that the lines between heroes and villains are blurry, especially in a movie like Venom, and that his character believes that he's actually the one saving the world.

"No one thinks that they are the bad guy, that's the reality," the actor said. "People do crazy things, terrible things, but in their mind they justify it. They think that they're helping the world, helping the other person, helping themselves, they justify it in their own ways. So, for me, when I'm playing a character like Carlton Drake, I'm sure you'll think I'm crazy but I totally understand what he's doing and why he's doing it. He's trying to serve humanity and he just thinks that he's best placed to do that and he wants to find a future for the human race. And of course, as the most rich, powerful, successful, intelligent member of the human race, he should be at the center of that future as well. So, I think I'm playing the good guy, but that's sort of what everyone thinks."

Judging by Ahmed's words here, and the reaction to the Venom footage shown at Comic-Con, it sounds like this movie is going to be unlike every other entry to the genre that has come before.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-23, 11:32 AM   #111
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

'Venom' Cast and Director Settle the Debate on How to Pronounce "Symbiote"

When the first trailer of Sony's Venom debuted months back, it cast the fandom of the web-slinging enemy of Spider-Man into a state of pandemonium. Why, you ask? Jenny Slate's character pronunciation of the word "symbiote."

Slate's character kept pronouncing the alien parasite as sim-BYE-ote, instead of the widely-use sim-BEE-ote alternative. As Venom cast members Tom Hardy and Riz Ahmed joined director Ruben Fleischer for a Hall H panel at San Diego Comic-Con, the trio seemingly put the debate to rest.

"Yeah for sure, it's sim-bee-ote," Fleischer told Entertainment Weekly. "That's been confirmed."

Then the director threw in another curveball, joking that it could also be pronounced as sim-bee-ut. Ahmed and Hardy then agreed that it might come down to English variations between American and British culture.

"I think it's an America/British thing," Ahmed said. "Because it can be like symbiosis..."

Ahmed then suggested the EW host a poll in the comments section. Fleischer wrapped up the questioning with another popular phrase.

"You say poh-tay-to, I say poh-tah-to," Fleischer mentioned. "I think sim-bee-ote is the preferred pronunciation."

Earlier in the year, Fleischer mentioned that Venom will be much more of a horror story than the superhero genre has ever seen before.

“We talked a lot about a werewolf and what it is when you get infected or bit by a werewolf,” Fleischer shared. Usually a human gets imbued with powers or an alien comes from outer space and has to figure out how to live on our Earth.”
“But this is really about a relationship between two people who have to work together to create this hybrid symbiotic relationship.”

“There’s a tragic clown element, which I find funny and is harmonious with some of the work that I like to do,” Hardy shared of the character. “There’s something funny about the circumstances of having a gift but it’s a tragic gift. It’s a superpower you don’t really want, but at the same time, you love it. It makes you feel special. He’s a reluctant hero and an anti-hero.”
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-23, 11:50 AM   #112
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM Director Explains Why Eddie Brock's Symbiote Doesn't Have The Iconic White Spider Logo On Its Chest

On Friday, it was confirmed that Tom Hardy's Venom won't have the iconic white spider logo on his chest in the upcoming movie and now director Ruben Fleischer has explained this change to his appearance.

While there's no denying that the big screen version of Venom looks like he's been torn straight from the pages of the comic books, there's one very important component missing. We are, of course, referring to the white spider symbol that adorns his chest, something which was absent in the trailer shown in Hall H on Friday. So, what's the deal with that being left out of the upcoming movie?

"If you look at the comics, in Venom, there is just elements of white within his suit," says Ruben Fleischer. "Because our character does not originate from Spider-Man, it makes no sense to put a spider on his chest. We tried to be as accurate as we possibly could, even though some people feel it's inaccurate, but there is a lot of white and we wanted to give him a distinctive pattern."

What that pattern will be remains to be seen and we probably won't be able to take a proper look at that until the new trailer is released online. It turns out that there is actually a good reason for giving him some sort of logo in the movie, though, and it's actually quite practical according to the filmmaker.

"If you have an all-black character, especially in night scenes, he just kind of disappears. Since we couldn't use the Spider-Man symbol, we wanted to give him another graphic element, and those veins that kind of form a shape on his chest was an original idea that we just thought looked really cool." How do you guys feel about this? As always, let us know your thoughts on that down below.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-24, 09:11 AM   #113
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM Director Says There Are "No Real Heroes" In The Marvel Movie


If you've been fretting about Eddie Brock receiving a heroic makeover in Venom, comments from director Ruben Fleischer may put your mind at ease because he's shed some light on the symbiote's portrayal.


Filed Under: "Venom" Source: Entertainment Weekly
As of right now, we have no idea whether or not Venom will be R-Rated but with it quickly becoming apparent that the movie won't adhere to the source material, many fans are concerned about how Eddie Brock will be portrayed and whether or not the villain will undergo a heroic transformation.

However, during a recent interview at Comic-Con, director Ruben Fleischer explained that the movie actually lacks what could be described as a "real hero" and talked more about its unique tone.

"I was really excited about just bringing something new to the genre," Fleischer told Entertainment Weekly. "I feel like the tone of our movie is really original and distinctive, which is totally appropriate for the character, as Venom is a darker, more violent, more menacing character. I think our movie feels distinctive from a lot of the other superhero movies, in part because there’s no real hero in it."

"So it’s just a movie that kind of stands on its own, led by incredible performances by fine actors such as [Tom Hardy and Riz Ahmed]," he continued. "But Tom really just is — I think people are going to be blown away by what he brings to the table with both Eddie Brock and Venom. His performance is incredible, and sets the bar for the film." If nothing else, it sounds like Hardy will be a great Venom.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-24, 06:49 PM   #114
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default


'Venom' Director Discusses R-Rating, Promises Most Violent Marvel Character




Sony's Venom movie is going to isolate itself from any other big screen heroes not only by existing in its own universe but also by crafting a darker, more violent tone than any before it.

Speaking to ComicBook.com at San Diego Comic Con, Venom director Ruben Fleischer was asked if his film is approaching an R-rating or, at the very least, pushing the boundaries of violence and darkness. After all, Venom is a character known to be quite intimidating in Marvel Comics, given his violent and horrifying nature.

"That's the plan," Fleischer said. "It is not the plan, that's the movie. Our movie wants to honor the comics as close as we can tonally. In the comics, he bites people's heads off and eats brains. It would be weird to make a movie with Venom if he wasn't doing that. We tried to honor it as closely as possible. This is definitely a darker, more violent, more vicious Marvel character than I think anyone's ever seen before."

Footage shown in Hall H at San Diego Comic Con moments after the interview showcased a terrifying portrayal of the character. Not only does it honor his comic book counterpart with sequences which see the symbiote emerging from Eddie Brock's chest to have a conversation but also in his nature of looking down on human enemies, tormenting them with terrifying (yet beautifully animated) lines of dialogue, and biting their heads right off.

"We really want to honor the comics and the character from the comics and I feel like we did a really good job," Fleischer said.

It's worth noting, the footage did not include any foul language or extreme violence directly on the screen. Instead, it simply cut before a villain's head would be removed by the Marvel anti-hero's giant teeth. Whether or not the bloody aftermath makes its way into the film is still unclear.

Still, Tom Hardy says it is a film his kids can't watch just yet.


"Venom is, by far, for me the...coolest Marvel super hero that there is," Hardy said. "I just like the way he looks first and foremost. Then, also, there's my son and he's a massive Venom fan. He was a very strong influence on me as to why I ought to play Venom specifically...So I did something where I bite people's heads off which my son can't see."
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-24, 06:51 PM   #115
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default


How 'Venom' Movie Thrives Without Spider-Man




Director Ruben Fleischer doesn't seem to have a worry in the world about his Venom movie being isolated from Spider-Man and the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Marvel Comics fans have long known Venom as a character often reliant on Spider-Man stories to fuel his own but the anti-hero's Sony Pictures film won't exist in the big screen world where Peter Parker resides. The Venom movie, instead, will capitalize on the opportunity to differentiate itself from an otherwise crowded market of super hero films.

"I'm a huge fan of comic book movies so I just tried to pick a lane that was true to the character," Fleischer told ComicBook.com in the video above. "I think inherent to the character, he's just darker, and we talked about more violent. It's just tonally different from everything else, especially when you're focusing on just Venom. He's not a sunshine kind of guy. So, it takes place at night. It's darker. More menacing. I think that within the spectrum of all these movies, there's the DC super dark, Zack Snyder type version and then there's the Marvel movies and I like to think that we're in our own zone apart from that."

Still, Fleischer admits he would like to one day see the two Marvel characters come face to face on the big screen. "I think we can all agree it would be pretty amazing to see Spider-Man and Venom face off in a film," Fleischer said during Sony's Hall H panel. "I have to think that the studio is thinking the same way and at some point down the road they're gonna run across each other's paths."

In separating Venom from Spider-Man, the Venom movie will do its best to honor the pages of Marvel Comics which made fans fall in love with the popular anti-hero.

"Our movie wants to honor the comics as close as we can tonally," Fleischer said. "In the comics, he bites people's heads off and eats brains. It would be weird to make a movie with Venom if he wasn't doing that. We tried to honor it as closely as possible. This is definitely a darker, more violent, more vicious Marvel character than I think anyone's ever seen before."
0comments

Whether or not this means the film will earn an R-rating is uncertain, but Fleischer and company seem to be hinting towards such a scenario. "Venom is, by far, for me the...coolest Marvel super hero that there is," Venom star Tom Hardy said during Sony's Hall H panel. "I just like the way he looks first and foremost. Then, also, there's my son and he's a massive Venom fan. He was a very strong influence on me as to why I ought to play Venom specifically...So I did something where I bite people's heads off which my son can't see."
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-26, 10:47 AM   #116
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Yes, Venom’s Director Has Plans For A Sequel




The Venom movie might not be attached to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but that doesn't mean there aren't plans for the franchise to continue after the first film is over. Director Ruben Fleischer admits that Venom does lay the groundwork for a potential sequel, though, obviously, whether or not we see that sequel is dependent on how successful Venom is. According to Fleischer...

We've definitely laid some groundwork for different directions that the franchise could go but obviously it all hinges on people's excitement about this film. I hope people will stay and see what seeds have been planted.

It will be interesting to see just how seeds will be planted for potential Venom sequels because the Venom origin story here is so different from what is traditionally told, due to the fact that there is no Spider-Man. Therefore, any follow-up stories will likely also be taking a very different tact. We could be introduced to characters in Venom who could turn out to be important in a sequel but in ways completely unexpected simply because sequels will be based on this version of Venom.

Interestingly, Ruber Fleischer also tells Comicbook.com that he hopes people will "stay" and see what seeds have been planted, which implies that the sequel set-up work could all be done in a post-credits sequence, or more than one, that fans will have to wait through the credits to see. While Venom may not be an MCU movie there's no reason they can't take a page from Marvel's book that has proven incredibly successful, keeping fans around to get a small tease of what's to come.

One also has to wonder if a post-credits sequence in Venom could lay the groundwork for more than just a sequel. We know that Sony is working on several projects using characters from the Spider-Man comics, including a Black Cat/Silver Sable team up and a Morbius: The Living Vampire movie that will apparently star Jared Leto. While it may be a bit early to start teasing those films, you never know. Iron Man started setting up the Avengers when little about the MCU was a sure thing. If Venom is the start of its own film universe, and Sony knows where they want to go with it, we could see the first hints of that here.

Of course, it all depends on how Venom does financially. While it's too early to estimate how an October film will do at the box office, Venom certainly has the name recognition that will help. The character is extremely popular, which is why Sony moved this project forward first. October is a somewhat unusual time to see a comic book project released, but that also means Venom will have little similar competition. The film is certainly doing what it can to ensure success, which means we may see those sequels down the road.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-27, 08:43 AM   #117
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

'Venom' Director Reveals Tom Hardy's Approach






Taking on the role of Venom meant also taking on the part of Eddie Brock for Tom Hardy, which Venom movie director Ruben Fleischer was blown away by on set.
Speaking to ComicBook.com at San Diego Comic Con, Fleischer opened up about what he was hoping to get out of Hardy while crafting the first Venom film (which he hopes will lead to many more).


"As you know, as a fan of the character, Eddie Brock and Venom is a unique character within the universe because it's not just a singular experience," Fleischer said. "It's not like there's a guy who gets imbued with powers or makes his own suit and the becomes a vigilante or he's not an alien that comes to earth and has super powers. In our movie, or in the comics, it's about the union of these two different parts to create a whole."
As the origin story sounds like it will go, Eddie Brock and Venom will work towards becoming one functioning anti-hero force. "There's a symbiote and then there's Eddie Brock," Fleischer said. "There's a relationship. That's what Tom did so amazingly well, was to play these two characters simultaneously. That was, as a director, just exhilarating to watch someone with the capability that he has managed the two characters that he has in his head."

As for whether or not the film will be rated R to allow for explicit violence remains unclear, despite the Sony Pictures presentation in Hall H featuring an abundant amount of implied violence.
"That's the plan," Fleischer said. "It is not the plan, that's the movie. Our movie wants to honor the comics as close as we can tonally. In the comics, he bites people's heads off and eats brains. It would be weird to make a movie with Venom if he wasn't doing that. We tried to honor it as closely as possible. This is definitely a darker, more violent, more vicious Marvel character than I think anyone's ever seen before."


The footage shown in Hall H at San Diego Comic Con moments after the interview showcased a terrifying portrayal of the character. The movie does honor his comic book counterpart with sequences seen on the pages of Marvel Comics which see the symbiote emerging from Eddie Brock's chest to have a conversation face to face. However, it is also seen in his nature of looking down on human enemies, tormenting them with terrifying (yet beautifully animated) lines of dialogue, and biting their heads right off.
"We really want to honor the comics and the character from the comics and I feel like we did a really good job," Fleischer said.
It's worth mentioning; the footage did not include any foul language or extreme violence directly on the screen which would warrant an R-rating for the film. Instead, the footage consistently cut before a villain's head would be removed by the Marvel anti-hero's giant teeth. Whether or not the bloody aftermath makes its way on to the screen is unknown, for now.

Tom Hardy, however, says it is a film his kids can't watch just yet.

"Venom is, by far, for me the...coolest Marvel super hero that there is," Hardy said. "I just like the way he looks first and foremost. Then, also, there's my son and he's a massive Venom fan. He was a very strong influence on me as to why I ought to play Venom specifically...So I did something where I bite people's heads off which my son can't see."
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-27, 08:43 AM   #118
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

New 'Venom' Trailer Coming Soon





After dazzling Marvel fans with an exclusive sizzle reel at San Diego Comic-Con last week, it sounds like the rest of the world is going to get a new look at Sony's Spider-Man spinoff in the form of a Venom trailer.
The news comes from Trailer Track, which revealed a classification for a brand new trailer for the upcoming horror/superhero hybrid film. Expect to see more shots of Tom Hardy in the symbiote suit, and possibly even a gruesome tease or two.


There were rumors that the new Venom trailer would be debuting alongside Mission: Impossible - Fallout, but with this classification it seems unlikely that it would be released so soon. Trailer Track expresses that it should be coming in the next few weeks.
It's unclear if it will be the exact same clip that was shown during Sony Pictures' Hall H presentation at Comic-Con last week, which seemed more like an extended sizzle reel for the faithful campers who wait overnight to get into the room.

Either way, we might be getting a glimpse at the film's darker tone. Even though the movie has yet to be formally rated by the MPAA, director Ruben Fleischer has stated they're going for a violent, R-rated film.
"That's the plan," Fleischer said. "It is not the plan, that's the movie. Our movie wants to honor the comics as close as we can tonally. In the comics, he bites people's heads off and eats brains. It would be weird to make a movie with Venom if he wasn't doing that. We tried to honor it as closely as possible. This is definitely a darker, more violent, more vicious Marvel character than I think anyone's ever seen before."


While speaking with Entertainment Weekly, the director justified the tone by explaining there are no real superheroes in the film.
"I was really excited about just bringing something new to the genre." Fleischer explained. "I feel like the tone of our movie is really original and distinctive, which is totally appropriate for the character, as Venom is a darker, more violent, more menacing character. I think our movie feels distinctive from a lot of the other superhero movies, in part because there's no real hero in it."
Fleischer explained that his movie will set up future storylines for sequels, which will obviously be determined by how well Venom does at the box office.

"We've definitely laid some groundwork for different directions that the franchise could go but obviously it all hinges on people's excitement about this film," Fleischer told ComicBook.com's Brandon Davis at Comic-Con. "I hope people will stay and see what seeds have been planted."
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-31, 08:49 AM   #119
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Venom Movie Trailer Reveals New Symbiotes - Including Riot



Something went wrong. Please make sure you added the video correctly.

Video URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLCn88bfW1o

Sony Pictures releases a new Venom movie trailer, teasing director Ruben Fleischer and star Tom Hardy's film following Marvel's Eddie Brock. Sony surprised many when they announced a Venom movie that would ultimately launch a line of films utilizing their catalogue of Spider-Man related characters. However, since Tom Holland's Spider-Man currently appears in Marvel Studios' Marvel Cinematic Universe, it was unclear whether Sony's movies would tie in and, if so, how. For now, Venom is completely separate from the MCU, and Fleischer's film is expected to follow Hardy's Eddie Brock as he becomes fused with the Symbiote that makes him the titular character.

The first teaser trailer for Venom debuted much earlier this year - perhaps too early, as it received a great deal of criticism for not offering a glimpse at how Hardy would appear as Venom. The first full trailer for Venom was far better received, and gave fans their first look at the Symbiote. More recently, Sony screened some Venom footage at Comic-Con in San Diego earlier this month, and the reactions out of the panel were largely positive. Now, to continue hyping up Venom before its early October release date, Sony has unveiled a new trailer.

After teasing the new Venom trailer last week, Sony released it online today. The latest Venom movie trailer can be seen in the space above. It features much of the same footage that was screened at Comic-Con two weeks ago, offering fans their first look at Venom's main villain, Riot (Riz Ahmed) the fellow Symbiote. The trailer also showcases a few other Symbiotes - a yellow unattached Symbiote early on that may become Phage, and then a woman after she's been merged with a Symbiote. There's also a man being experimented on with a Symbiote but it's unclear if he survives the merging.

In addition to Hardy and Ahmed, the latter of whom's character name is Carlton Drake, Venom stars Michelle Williams as Anne Weying, Scott Haze, Reid Scott, and Jenny Slate. Woody Harrelson is also confirmed to appear in Venom, and all reports point to him portraying Cletus Kasady, the psychopathic serial killer who becomes Carnage. However, the reports - and Harrelson himself - have said he's barely in the movie, causing many to suspect Carnage appears in Venom in a final scene or post-credits teaser setting up a sequel. That would explain why Harrelson has yet to appear in any of the Venom trailers.

Still, though Sony may be gearing up to a Venom versus Carnage fight in a potential sequel, this latest trailer reveals Eddie Brock and his Symbiote parasite will have plenty to contend with in their first film. Between Drake/Riot and the other Symbiotes on the loose, and Eddie battling the murderous tendencies of Venom, there's a great deal going on in Fleischer's anti-hero movie. And, considering how different it looks to other superhero films, as well as Venom's last live-action appearance in Spider-Man 3, Hardy and Fleischer's movie may prove to be a successful new entry in the genre of comic book adaptations. Fans will be able to find out for themselves when Venom hits theaters later this year.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-31, 06:39 PM   #120
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM: Breaking Down All The Biggest Moments, Easter Eggs, And Spoilers In The New Trailer

The new trailer for Venom is here and it's packed full of big reveals and, uh, terrible dialogue? Regardless, we're breaking down all the most noteworthy moments here, so check them out after the jump...





As expected, Sony Pictures released the first trailer for Venom earlier today and it's left fans with plenty to talk about. Featuring plenty of huge reveals and teases about what's in store for Eddie Brock in this standalone adventure for the symbiote, the three-minute sneak peek definitely makes it clear what sort of movie this is going to be and it may not be what a lot of fans were hoping for from the film.

Regardless of the questionable special effects and Syfy level dialogue, it is good to know a little more about the direction Sony is taking Venom in, especially as it looks set to be the first of a number of spinoffs the studio is launching set in a Spider-Verse (minus Spider-Man, of course). So, to take a look at our breakdown of the footage, all you guys have to do is click on the "View List" button to check it out.

Is This Ravencroft?



The trailer kicks off with Eddie Brock doing his reporter thing and visiting what looks like some sort of institute; could this be where he meets Cletus Kasady? I wouldn't be remotely surprised if this scene is actually from the end of the movie and it's where he inadvertently leaves a piece of his symbiote behind which ultimately bonds with the serial killer and transforms into the villainous Carnage.

Either way, it would definitely make sense for Venom to introduce this iconic location and if it is indeedRavencroft, then it could set the stage for more villains to be introduced in this Spider-Verse.

Infected



After being thrown out of the Life Foundation in the first trailer, it appears as if the intrepid journalist breaks in to try and find out more and it's then that he crosses paths with a woman who has bonded with a symbiote (I'm guessing she's either Scream or Agony). It appears as if this is the moment Eddie becomes infected and what we see next is him coming to terms with his newfound "partner."

Human Experimentation



Carlton Drake is in charge of the Life Foundation and appears to be a complete lunatic as he believes that bonding unwilling human guinea pigs with these alien symbiotes will create a new, superior lifeform. It's your typical evil plan really but one which does make sense as he clearly believes that humanity is dying and that the only way to save them is by using symbiotes to create new lifeforms.

With any luck, it won't be as simple as that because it's pretty easy to predict that Eddie/Venom will probably be the only fully successful bonding and that a frustrated Carlton will then throw one on in a bid to stop him before ultimately being defeated. Fingers crossed for some surprises along the way!

The Symbiote Is In Charge



The relationship between Eddie and his symbiote has always been pretty complicated but it's usually Brock who is in charge. However, there's a big difference here because he and Venom have completely separate personalities and it's the symbiote who is in charge and actually able to control Eddie's movements and actions. Whether or not this will remain the case from start to finish remains to be seen but they could end up working together by the time all is said and done as actual partners.

Eddie Meets The Symbiote



Further driving home the fact that Eddie and Venom are two distinct personalities in this movie is the fact that the symbiote actually separates himself from his host at various points throughout this adventure so they can have a conversation. We see many examples of that here (usually in mirrored surfaces or mentally) but this is actually a pretty cool visual and one which works really well on screen.

Once again, this does seem like something of a departure from what we're used to seeing in the comic books but there is a precedent for this happening so fans probably shouldn't be too upset or angry.

Healing Factor



It looks like Eddie is going to be pretty much invulnerable once he's bonded with Venom as a nasty crash off his bike results in the symbiote repairing broken bones and various abrasions before essentially returning its host to life. While you may think this makes the anti-hero a little a too powerful, bear in mind that Venom does have some vulnerabilities but we'll get to those a little later.

Terrible Dialogue



"Eyes...lungs...pancreas. So many snacks, so little time." Yes, that's an actual piece of dialogue in Venom and it's one of many examples of terrible lines scattered throughout this lengthy trailer.

Honestly, it's on the same level as what you'd expect to hear in a Syfy movie but based on Avi Arad's mentality and approach to comic book adaptations such as this one, that's no massive surprise.

Unfortunately, if these are the best lines Sony could pluck out of the movie for the trailer, that doesn't bode well for the movie itself and the quality of the screenplay is going to be very problematic.

Another Villain



I mentioned Agony and Scream earlier on in this feature and it definitely looks as if one of them will be a secondary antagonist in Venom. Whether she's working with or against Carlton Drake remains to be seen but it definitely appears like she's up to something sinister which will lead to Venom attempting to take her down. Interestingly, it looks like he's wielding the same knife/sword that she has later on in this trailer; could that be an alien weapon which is capable of killing a symbiote once and for all?

Fire



At one point in this preview, we get to see Venom plummetting into a fire and that has to be a nod to the fact that it's one of his few vulnerabilities. This bodes well for the movie adhering to the source material in at least some respects and it will be fun seeing what sort of impact the heat has on him.

It's only a very brief shot, though, and Venom doesn't look too bothered so we'll have to wait and see.

Meet Riot



We knew that Riot would be making an appearance in this trailer and, well, he just looks like a silver version of Venom! However, it does look like he has some additional powers, including massive axes for arms. The trailer also confirms that Carlton Drake is in the "suit" as we see him try to tear the symbiote from Eddie and get a glimpse inside both of those as they engage in an admittedly epic looking battle.

Riot obviously isn't the villain we wanted to see in this movie (that would be Carnage) but the symbiote on symbiote action does look pretty good and this is a pretty killer shot at the end of this trailer.

"We Are Venom"



Well, this is...unique. As Eddie threatens a random crook as Venom, the mask peels away to reveal his face below and he looks, well, a little vacant? I'm not really sure what the point of this is but it could be from nearer the end of the movie and an indication that he now has control over the symbiote (let's face it, it wouldn't be out of character for Sony to spoil a key moment like this in a freaking trailer).

Brains



After comparing the limbless crook to a "turd" blowing in the wind, Venom seemingly chows down on the poor guy and has clearly retained his taste for brains from the comic books. That's a nice enough nod to the source material but does robbing a convenience store really warrant having your head chomped off? Apparently so and it seems this movie with put the "Lethal" in Lethal Protector.

Regardless, the visuals and dialogue here are not great and the signs are pointing to this being BAD.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-07-31, 08:08 PM   #121
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Something went wrong. Please make sure you added the video correctly.

Video URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUGPzyrOgyQ
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-08-01, 09:11 AM   #122
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

VENOM: This Japanese Poster Might Be Good Enough To Restore Your Faith In The SPIDER-MAN Spinoff







Following last night's international trailer for Sony's Venom movie, we have an awesome Japanese poster featuring a new look at the comic-accurate antihero of the title. Check it out after the jump...



Yesterday's Venom trailer certainly had its moments, but the general consensus seems to be that Sony's R-rated Spider-Man spinoff is looking a bit... well, to quote the titular beast, "like a turd in the wind."

That said, trailers aren't always a fair representation of the final product, so there's every chance Venom will still surprise us when it hits theatres later this year.

Plus, some of the marketing has been on point. Take this new Japanese poster for example.



Is this enough to restore your faith in Venom? Or did you think the movie already looked awesome and don't get all the negativity?
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-08-02, 02:30 PM   #123
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

In Defense of the ‘Venom’ Trailer’s “Turd in the Wind” Line







Sony Pictures recently released a lengthy second trailer for Venom, the non-Spider-Man Spider-Man spinoff in which Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy)symbiotically bonds with an alien ball of Gak that gives him super-strength, slime-tentacles, and an appetite for mugger pancreas. A lot going on here, folks, and that’s before you get to the very end of the trailer, which features a line from the Venom symbiote so sublimely stupid that it rounds back to being flawless art. Collider usually sets a firm 50,000-word limit on opening paragraphs so I can’t adequately describe it’s absurd beauty in this space, so here it is word-for-word:
We will eat both your arms, and then both of your legs, and then we will eat your face right off your head. You will be this armless, legless, faceless little thing, won’t you? Rolling down the street like a turd in the wind.
A turd.
In the wind.
Image via Sony Pictures

There’s so much to unpack there. I could write a thesis. Would a turd in the wind even go anywhere? (The average wind speed in San Francisco is 7mph and Venom creator Todd McFarlane has not responded to multiple inquiries into the weight of the character’s turds.) If a monstrous, gooey abomination with razor sharp teeth suddenly used the word “turd” to threaten you, could you stop yourself from chuckling just a little? Is Tom Hardy aware he doesn’t have to talk like that? So many questions, so many layers, and yet, and yet, the “turd in the wind” line is, at my last reporting, being viciously dunked on across social media and various pop culture critic circles.
I am here today to explain that “rolling down the street like a turd in the wind” is Good, Actually, for the reasons I will lay out here forthwith:
1. That Line Is Hilarious
Come on. Come on. I know that we live in an age where every other release is a comic book movie and not everyone enjoys their caped-and-cowled characters in the same way. But I worry that we’re taking for granted that Tom Hardy, encased in an alien slime monster suit and using a voice I assume he crafted by watching Charlie Kelly rants and drinking Mezcal, threatens to eat a man’s face off his head—the logistics of which astound me—by calling that man a turd. A turd. That is objectively funny and anyone who thinks otherwise is an undercover cop.
Image via Marvel Comics

2. That Line Is Incredibly On-Brand
The Venom character—at least, the character you picture when you think of Venom—is the product of a very specific time in comic books. The idea for the Symbiote and the black Spider-Man suit was dreamed up in 1988, but the archetypal Venom—the bulging muscles, the claws, the uncomfortably sensual tongue—is a product of the 1990s. And in the 1990s, comic books were Extreme. No, Xtreme. Every book had an X added to the title, even the X-Men. Every character had a machine gun now, and that machine gun was also a sword that was on fire. While a lot of that aesthetic doesn’t hold up—female characters were drawn with a very misinformed idea of the way spines work—the Venom character is rooted in a very certain brand of stupidity. I say that mostly as a compliment. Much of the 90’s were a big, loud, stupid time for comics, and a ten-foot-tall space beast would definitely, for sure, 100% called someone a turd in the wind without regard to the physics of such an insult.
3. That Line Is Hilarious
Just want to reiterate.
4. Marvel Would Never
Marvel would never. Look, by now Marvel Studios has this thing down to a gosh darn science. For better or worse, they know how to make a superhero movie that appeals to everyone, all at once. But Marvel’s storytelling revolves fully around the idea that their characters are the coolest. All of the time. Groot is a tree and he’s cool as shit. Even Marvel’s more “racy” humor, like Peter Quill’s spaceship looking like a Jackson Pollock painting under a blacklight, makes them look cool. Marvel would never let one of their characters look as singularly un-cool as Venom does saying “turd in the wind.” And that’s what it is, by the way; I feel like a lot of negativity toward that line comes from the idea it’s supposed to be earnestly badass, which ignores the odd-couple tone of the rest of the trailer. It’s not badass. It’s an alien from another planet melding minds with down-on-his-luck, incredibly sweaty newspaper reporter to try and sound tough. It is a decidedly un-Marvel-like moment, which these days feels like a breath of fresh air. Or, you know, not so fresh.
Check out the trailer below and form your opinion. Please be aware that I respect your right to disagree, as long as you respect my right to believe that makes you a turd.
A turd in the wind.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-08-03, 10:00 AM   #124
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

Venom Theory: Riot Will Turn Into Carnage




The villain of Sony's Venom movie has been confirmed to be a little-known symbiote known as "Riot" - but is it possible this being is destined to become the far more famous Spider-Man villain, Carnage? A sociopathic serial killer, Carnage is Venom's most powerful nemesis. The monstrous creature was created when a symbiote bonded with a man who's addicted to death and bloodshed.

When Sony first announced the Venom movie, viewers assumed that Carnage would be the main villain. Superhero films tend to use "mirror image" bad guys, and Carnage seemed a natural choice. Where Eddie Brock tries to keep his bloodlust in check - the trailers have shown him battling with the symbiote, trying to insist that it should only harm criminals - Cletus Kasady revels in it. The feud between Venom and Carnage is deeply personal, and the stakes are high - when Carnage is around, anyone and everyone is in danger.

However, while Woody Harrelson is rumored to appear as Kasady in Venom, that's said to be more of a cameo tease; it appears that Sony is saving Carnage for a sequel of some kind, possibly even setting up a Maximum Carnage-inspired crossover event that pits their various antiheroes against the ruthless murderer. But could the studio actually be playing a bait-and-switch, subtly changing Riot so that he actually becomes Carnage? Let's look at the evidence.

THE CHANGES MADE TO RIOT FOR THE VENOM MOVIE

Riot is a character lifted straight from the comics, although Sony appear to have taken great liberties with the concept and design. In part that's to fit with the new origin story presented in Venom and make Riot a credible threat for Eddie Brock. After all, in the comics Riot is usually accompanied by four sibling symbiotes, and Venom has handily defeated all five of them at once. However, the changes that Sony have made are a little too significant for these two arguments to account for all of them.

The comic book version of Riot was introduced in the Venom: Lethal Protector miniseries, one of five symbiotes created by the Life Foundation after they forcibly extracted symbiote "seeds" from Venom himself. Each symbiote was bonded to one of the Life Foundation's security officers; in the case of Riot, the creature was bonded to the brutal mercenary named Trevor Cole. Unlike Venom, the Riot symbiote was initially unable to influence its host; it was too young, and thus lacked the symbiote's typically formidable mental resources.

The Five Symbiotes all had their own distinctive color, with Riot's being dark blue. Influenced by Cole, Riot developed a preference for forming the symbiote into blunt-edged, brutal weapons like maces and hammers. After Cole's death, the Riot symbiote spent some time jumping from host to host. It was most recently seen working for the US Government, bonded with Petty Officer Howard Ogden.

Venom's take on Riot is very different. In the film, the symbiote is one of several found by the Life Foundation, who believe that bonding with a symbiote may give humans the evolutionary edge to survive an imminent ecological catastrophe. At San Diego Comic-Con, we learned that the cinematic version of Riot will be unique in that it jumps from host to host; you can never see it coming because it could have bonded with anyone. What's more, given the symbiote was discovered rather than "hatched," it's unlikely to be as young; thus it could conceivably control any of its hosts. The Venom trailer confirmed that Riot will ultimately bond with Carlton Drake. Visually, the Riot symbiote of Venom is also different to the comics. Rather than deep blue in color, it's silver with red veins. What's more, it appears to prefer forming sharp, ax-like weapons rather than the typical blunt instruments of the comics.

It's important to note that, in Venom, the symbiotes themselves appear to have an agenda; in the trailer, Eddie Brock asks his symbiote what it wants; it's response it to assure him that he will find out. Whatever Riot's goals may be, though, they seem to involve a lot of death and destruction. It's also opposed by the Venom symbiote, which is significant given that Venom seems to have a rather pronounced bloodlust too.

CARNAGE'S ROLE IN THE VENOM MOVIE

Sony CEO Tom Rothman confirmed that Carnage would appear in Venom back in June last year, but his role appears to be little more than a cameo. It's generally believed that Woody Harrelson is playing the part of Cletus Kasady, the maniac who becomes Carnage. Harrelson himself has noted that he's "in a little fraction of the movie," but promised viewers that will be setup for "the next one."

It seems that Sony is in no hurry to use Carnage. They know he's a popular character and an ideal villain, but seem uncharacteristically reserved in how they plan to tease him out. Venom is really the origin of Eddie Brock, only setting the scene for Carnage for Venom 2 or some crossover event movie (this was originally mooted in the Sony email leaks). Some comic book readers have been disappointed at this, eager to see Venom and Carnage duke it out on the big screen, although they may not have to wait as long as expected...


THEORY: RIOT BECOMES CARNAGE

Could Sony have played something of a bait-and-switch, with their version of Riot destined to become Carnage? Certainly, almost all of the changes Sony has made to Riot make the creature much more like the Carnage symbiote: the deep red veins upon its surface are obviously more like Carnage than its comic-book counterpart: Riot's ax-like weapons are atypical of the comic version but standard for Carnage (or Riot's "brother" symbiote in the comics, Phage); and, importantly, the symbiote is clearly reveling in the destruction it causes, another character-trait typically associated with Carnage.

All of this leads to the suggestion that Venom's Riot is really the proto-Carnage symbiote, ready to become the sequel's villain once it connects with a truly ruthless host. It's definitely not difficult to envision a situation for the symbiote to get from Dr. Carlton Drake to serial killer Cletus Kasady; if Venom defeats Riot (all but guaranteed to be the case) and Drake survives, the bad doctor is sure to wind up in prison, putting him and any surviving symbiote fragment in close proximity of Kasady. That's exactly the sort of cameo that Harrelson has teased.

Crucially, there's some key comic book precedent for multiple aspects of this theory. It's Kasady's bloodlust that makes Carnage so dangerous, meaning Riot would evolve somewhat by its new host into a new form. And the Carnage symbiote has bonded to other hosts before, including villains like the Wizard, Karl Malus, and Carla Unger. In one What If? story, it even wound up possessing the Silver Surfer. Why not Carlton Drake?

HOW THIS THEORY MAKES VENOM 2 EVEN BETTER


This revelation would instantly transform Venom. Rather than just being an origin story for the titular tongue-slavering antihero, it would also become an origin story for Carnage. There'd actually be something of a character arc for the symbiote; viewers would see its already-terrifying bloodlust demonstrated in Venom, only to watch as the symbiote bonded to a serial killer. When Riot returned as Carnage, the insanity of Cletus Kasady would have infected the symbiote itself; all trace of the logic that drives Riot in Venom would be gone, replaced by nothing more than a desire to kill and maim.
ADVERTISING [X]
The Carnage of the Venom movies would become a true "mirror image" villain. The two symbiotes would be "brothers," both arriving on Earth in the same crashed spaceship, both victims of the Life Foundation, and both dealing with the same bloodlust. After all, as the Venom trailer demonstrates, Venom himself has no qualms about threatened to chow down on humans - he just chooses to keep that dark part of himself under control, sating it by attacking criminals. In contrast, Carnage is what you get when the bloodlust is unrestrained and all-consuming, overriding all other motives and desires. Carnage would be the personification of everything Eddie Brock fears he could become. And their shared origin would make that all the more terrifying to Venom.

You can get that with Carnage in general, of course, but transforming the Riot symbiote into Carnage would provide a clear narrative throughline from Venom to the next film - whether Venom 2 or a Maximum Carnage event. Venom would truly lay the foundations for what is to come and the apparent absence of Carnage would be transformed from a disappointment to comic book fans to a promising declaration that great things are in store.
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 2018-08-05, 09:10 AM   #125
JDLM
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Olathe
Posts: 169,955
Post Thanks / Like
Default

‘Venom’ Trailer Line Was Ripped From a Spider-Man Comic Book



The threat issued by Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) that closes out the just-released second Venom trailer comes straight from the pages of an Amazing Spider-Man comic book.
(Photo: Marvel Comics)The Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #374, scripted by David Michelinie and pencilled by Mark Bagley, sees the web-slinger defend his parents from the psychopathic Venom, who has just escaped federal custody.


(The Parkers, long believed dead, reunited with adult son Peter just issues earlier. They were later outed as imposter robots created by the Chameleon under the orders of Harry Osborn, the new Green Goblin.) During their battle, Venom vows to “protect” the Parkers from Spider-Man, telling the surprised superhero which body parts he intends to consume.


The symbiote-covered psycho hopes for a similar sick snack in the Venom trailer, where the people-eating creature holds up an enemy, menacingly telling him, “Eyes, lungs, pancreas... so many snacks, so little time,” before using his protruding tongue to lick the face of his terrified meal.


Star Tom Hardy previously confirmed the movie is inspired by Venom: Lethal Protector, a six-issue 1993 miniseries scripted by Michelinie with art by Bagley, Ron Lim, and Sam Delarosa.


That series saw the anti-hero relocate to San Francisco, where he was pursued by a mysterious organization, the Life Foundation, who aimed to acquire the Venom symbiote for their own nefarious means. Brock then clashed with five new symbiotic spawn: Scream, Phage, Riot, Agony, and Lasher.


As revealed by the newest trailer, Riz Ahmed’s shadowy Dr. Carlton Drake will undergo a transformation into Riot, and Scream — whose features include a bundle of wild yellow tendrils — appears to have been spotted in the same trailer.


Director Ruben Fleischer told ComicBook.com during San Diego Comic-Con he wanted to carry over traits Venom is well-known for in the comic books — including the character’s penchant for eating brains.




“Our movie wants to honor the comics as close as we can tonally. In the comics, he bites people's heads off and eats brains. It would be weird to make a movie with Venom if he wasn't doing that,” Fleischer said. “We tried to honor it as closely as possible. This is definitely a darker, more violent, more vicious Marvel character than I think anyone's ever seen before.”
__________________


B68 | F82 |///M | S55B | NAV | LED | Avant Garde | Toyo Proxes 4
JDLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:58 AM.


Design By: Miner Skinz.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.13.37
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright (c) 1993-2012, KCSR.org