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'Venom' Director Explains Eddie's Choice in Snack Food



Between new villains and the mechanics of a symbiote, there's quite a lot that Venom leaves ambiguous -- but it looks like one food referenced in the film isn't one of them.
Mild spoilers for Venom below!

In a recent interview with SYFY, Venom director Ruben Fleischer was asked about the film's love of tater tots, which Eddie Brock/Venom (Tom Hardy) can be seen eating throughout the film. As it turns out, the tater tots were meant to show the different palettes that Eddie and Venom have, as well as just being for the sake of comedy.


"There was no deal with Ore-Ida, it just was in the script originally." Fleischer revealed. "It was always kind of a funny thing that the writers came up with, that he loves tater tots. We actually had to pare it down a little bit. There was a scene that we shot that didn't make it in the film, where he's at the grocery store buying and the Venom tendrils come out and grab a bunch of tater tots.


Of course, this isn't the only (non-human) food that Venom can be seen consuming in the film, with live lobsters, chocolate, and leftover chicken also being part of the plot. Still, fans have seemed to take quite a liking to the tater tot joke.


"It was definitely a funny runner but we also wanted to make sure it was clear that he was carnivorous and he wants live things to eat." Fleischer added. "And then at the end, they put in the thing about chocolate. Just as a nod to the comics where he finds chocolate as a replacement for adrenal glands. He's a bit of an omnivore but the tater tots are a funny runner."


In the days since Venom has made its debut, the critical and fan reception has been all over the map, with some arguing that the film's tone juggles between quite a few extremes. Still, it seems like those behind the filmtried to honor the character -- tater tots and all.


"I'm a huge fan of comic book movies so I just tried to pick a lane that was true to the character," Fleischer told ComicBook.com in a previous interview. "I think inherent to the character, he's just darker, and we talked about more violent. It's just tonally different from everything else, especially when you're focusing on just Venom."
"He's not a sunshine kind of guy." Fleischer continued. "So, it takes place at night. It's darker. More menacing. I think that within the spectrum of all these movies, there's the DC super dark, Zack Snyder type version and then there's the Marvel movies and I like to think that we're in our own zone apart from that."


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VENOM 2: Eddie Brock's Notebook Reveals New Details About Cletus Kasady's Murderous Past







At the New York Comic-Con this weekend, Marvel displayed Eddie Brock's notebook featuring details about a character comic book fans will be all too familiar with: Cletus Kasady, a.k.a. Carnage...


In Venom's mid-credits scene [SPOILER WARNING], Eddie Brock pays a visit to serial killer Cletus Kasady. The intrepid journalist has been promised an interview with him but Cletus quickly makes it clear that he plans on escaping and causing "carnage." At the New York Comic-Con this weekend, Sony put Eddie's notebook on display and it sheds some light on what happened in Carnage's past.

As you can see below, he was responsible for a massacre in New York City, pushed a woman who wouldn't go on a date with him in front of a bus, and tortured his mother's dog with a drill when he was a child. Oh, and he also dug his mother's body up, perhaps because he was attracted to her when she was alive. Clearly, he a total psychopath and that will make his Carnage transformation fun.

Are you guys excited to see Carnage in the Venom sequel? Let us know your thoughts below.

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Venom 2 Will Not Be Rated-R Either, According to Avi Arad



Warning: This post contains SPOILERS for Venom



 


Sony is already thinking about Venom 2 and they won't make the jump to an R-rating. After bringing Spider-Man into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Sony once again wanted to get a shared universe of their own. Tom Hardy was cast to lead Venom as Eddie Brock, and the early box office results - a record setting $80 million opening in October - indicate that this will hardly be the last Spidey-related property the studio makes. Next up is going to be Jared Leto's Morbius, but attention is turning towards what seems to be an inevitable sequel.

Based on the post-credits scene for Venom, it's quite clear where they want to take the character next. Eddie visits the prison cell of Cletus Kasady (Woody Harrelson), who ends the movie saying, "When I get out, and I will, there will be carnage." An appearance by Carnage was heavily rumored for Venom and, with the violent symbiote set to be the villain of a sequel, many fans wanted to see Venom and Carnage let loose with an R-rating, but that isn't happening.
Related: How Venom Sets Up A (Much Better) Sequel
Collider spoke to Venom producer Avi Arad about the chances for Venom 2 to move up the MPAA's rating scale. After all, the first Venom was reportedly envisioned as an R-rated movie, but was PG-13 when everything was all said and done. Despite Carnage joining the mix, Arad doesn't believe he can only be done right with an R-rating.
"When you hear Carnage, the only thing you can think of is R. But, if you know his story, if you really know the comic, there’s no R here. He’s a tortured soul. It’s not about what he does, because we never have to show the knife going from here to there, and the blood is pouring. What you have to show is, what is the motivation? Was he born like that, or [is he] someone we should feel for, because if you succeeding in making a villain someone you can feel for, jackpot."



As disappointed as some fans may be that Venom 2 won't jump to an R-rating, one can hardly blame Sony for sticking with a PG-13 vision. The first movie just broke box office records with a PG-13 rating even with largely negative reviews from critics. If a sequel is better executed and has more positive reactions, there's no reason to believe Venom 2 won't perform even better if Carnage is included. Sony found success with PG-13, so why would they switch to R and potentially shrink their audience?

Of course, this may still not sit well with many. But, Arad believes they'll be able to craft the right story around Carnage that won't mandate extreme violence or anything else that would warrant an R-rating. This will, obviously, put a ton of pressure on the writers of Venom 2 to do this, so that way they can make a complicated foe in Carnage, and then leave it up to director Ruben Fleischer (who will likely return for the sequel) to deliver on the action. Hopefully, Arad is proven to be true and Venom 2 does the story and characters justice in a PG-13 environment.
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Venom’s Biggest Unanswered Questions





In addition to breaking records at the box office, Venom left behind some big unanswered questions. Despite critics' brutal reviews of Sony's spinoff about one of Spider-Man's most popular villains, citing that the film is more akin to a superhero film made 15 years ago, many fans had a blast watching the titular symbiote bond with reporter Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) and cause chaos all over San Francisco. While it's true that Venom is a bit of a mess, it's also a lot of fun to watch.

Director Ruben Fleischer's film draws many influences from Marvel Comics, specifically the "Lethal Protector" storyline, and it also has an eye on becoming a proper franchise by setting up Venom's adversary for the sequel. Venom not only introduces Eddie Brock and Venom (who is also voiced by Tom Hardy), but it also suitably sets up Eddie's supporting cast and villains. This includes other alien symbiotes brought to Earth by billionaire Carlton Drake (Riz Ahmed), who becomes bonded to the Big Bad symbiote called Riot. Venom and Eddie eventually have to foil Riot and Drake's attempt to bring even more symbiotes to Earth so they can invade and conquer the human race.

Venom does explain the mechanics of how symbiotes bonding with humans works and its deadly after-effects, but the movie nevertheless generates some strange plot holes and inconsistencies. A number of aspects in the film don't quite add up or make sense, especially for moviegoers not fully versed in the Marvel source material. The answers to some of the questions Venom poses can be found in the comics, but let's look at the confusing questions the movie created.

WHY DOESN'T CARLTON DRAKE FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE INSTEAD OF LOOK FOR ALIENS?

In Venom, the Earth is in danger of becoming uninhabitable for humans thanks to climate change, reflecting urgent issues in the real world. Carlton Drake is well-aware of the crisis facing the planet and he even estimates that the Earth is only one generation away from becoming inhospitable for humans. But Drake also seems to hate humans for wrecking the environment. Nevertheless, Drake's solution is to launch spaceships into space. One encountered a comet containing symbiotes and they ended up bringing four of the aliens to Earth.

Now, Drake didn't know symbiotes existed, but once he acquired them, he planned to bond humans to the symbiotes so that as hybrids, both species can survive the impending environmental catastrophe. This plan is... not great; it begins with Drake needing to kidnap homeless people in San Francisco for lethal experiments of bonding the symbiotes to humans. Ultimately, Drake and Riot opt for a full-on invasion of Earth by symbiotes.

Much like Shane Black's The Predator, the climate change crisis is merely the backdrop to bring alien invaders to Earth to battle gun-toting humans. Neither film is particularly interested in addressing climate change or offering any solutions to the crisis within the context of their movie universes. In Venom, a man with Drake's resources could likely make real progress in dealing with this important issue, but instead, he preferred to be a supervillain.

WHY WAS CARLTON DRAKE NEWS BUT THE SPACESHIP CRASH WASN'T?

As a prominent TV reporter in San Francisco, Eddie Brock is assigned to do a profile on Carlton Drake. He is essentially asked to do a puff piece on the billionaire, but Brock suspects a man like Drake has to be hiding more than he lets on. By snooping in his lawyer fiancee Anne Weying's (Michelle Williams) email, he finds legal documents suggesting Drake has been subjecting people to experiments against their will. Eddie goes to the Life Foundation with a plan to ambush and expose Drake, but it backfires and it's Eddie who loses both his career and his relationship.

However, Eddie's interview happens after a Life Foundation spaceship crashed in Malaysia, which is the incident that kicks off the film. A space shuttle crash is big news but neither Eddie nor his news organization seemed particularly interested in reporting about it. Granted, the whole thing was supposed to be a puff piece to make Drake look good to help cover up the crash, but if Eddie was going to go off-script to expose Drake and the Life Foundation, the crash seems like a good starting point, especially because it doesn't rely on confidential information.

WHAT KIND OF COMPANY IS THE LIFE FOUNDATION, ANYWAY?

It's also not really clear what kind of a company the Life Foundation is. They're obviously well-funded with a huge laboratory and headquarters in San Francisco Bay. They also employ an army of heavily-armed security personnel who spend much of the movie trying to hunt down Venom and getting slaughtered. But what are their corporate goals? When Dr. Dora Skirth (Jenny Slate), one of Carlton Drake's top scientists, clued Eddie Brock in on the Life Foundation's secret human/symbiote experiments, she said they were originally trying to cure cancer. This means the Life Foundation is a pharmaceutical research company of some sort - but one that also has a space program and owns an independent fleet of spaceships, complete with their own launch pad adjacent to their HQ in San Francisco Bay!

The Life Foundation of the comics was a bit simpler; it was a cabal of evil, wealthy people who planned their own Utopian society and created symbiotes spawned from Venom to protect it. In Venom, the Life Foundation, like Oscorp in the Spider-Man movies, just seems to be some sort of evil catch-all multinational corporation that has the resources for whatever the plot requires.


RIOT AND VENOM WERE THE SYMBIOTES' NAMES BEFORE THEY CAME TO EARTH?

After he bonds with Eddie Brock, who originally believed he was infected with a parasite, Venom revealed himself to his human host by introducing himself as "Venom." Later, when explaining more about his background and the origins of the symbiotes, Venom told Brock that he was part of a team and that the symbiote team leader was named "Riot". This means "Venom" and "Riot" were the symbiotes names before they came to Earth, bonded with humans, and learned the English language!

However, there is a possible explanation for this: among the symbiotes' powers are telepathic abilities and extra-sensory perception. For example, Venom exhibits a version of Spider-Man's Spider-Sense where he's aware of danger and informs Eddie before it happens. Once they bond with humans, the symbiotes can read their minds and learn everything about them, including learn languages. So the most likely scenario is that "Venom" and "Riot" are the English translations of their alien names. But the way it plays in the movie, it simply comes off as strange that the symbiotes already have names that sound suspiciously like comic book supervillain codenames.

HOW DID RIOT KNOW TO GO TO SAN FRANCISCO?

After their shuttle crashed in Malaysia, the Life Foundation recovered three symbiotes and brought them back to Carlton Drake. The fourth symbiote, Riot, infected and murdered several people across Malaysia until he boarded an airplane and flew to San Francisco. Never mind the trail of bodies Riot left behind, but how did Riot know to go to San Francisco specifically to find Carlton Drake? At what point did Riot ultimately plan to bond with Drake and then use Drake's ship to go into space to bring back more symbiotes?

The answer to Riot's awareness of his surroundings and goals have to lie in who the symbiote possessed en route. Most of the people Riot took over and eventually killed were just common people he encountered in Malaysia, but tracing his body-snatching back to its original source, Riot initially possessed the spaceship's pilot, John Jameson. It must have been through reading Jameson's mind that Riot learned about Drake, the Life Foundation, and that they are based in San Francisco. Riot then methodically made his way across the world to find the billionaire. Riot also somehow didn't murder people on the airplanes he was riding on while possessing the body of a little girl. Riot also stayed in that girl's body upon landing in SF and making it all the way to confronting Drake inside the Life Foundation.


WHY WAS ANNE FINE AFTER BONDING WITH VENOM?

Venom does get gruesome in depicting the effects of a symbiote bonding with a human. The symbiote needs to feed so it attacks the human's organs unless the human can supply it with raw meat (later, Venom is able to substitute tater tots and chocolate to control his desire for human flesh). The moments of an out-of-control Eddie gorging himself on old chicken from a trash bin and sitting in a restaurant lobster tank eating live lobsters are some of the most memorably hilarious in the film.

After Eddie has separated from Venom thanks to his "Kryptonite," sonic attacks, Brock is captured by the Life Foundation. Venom then bonds with Anne Weying and together they go rescue Eddie as She-Venom. Yet despite everyone fans saw suffering grotesquely from being bonded with a symbiote, including Eddie himself, Anne seemed perfectly fine and showed no after-effects from her time possessed by Venom. The symbiote didn't attack her organs or end up killing her. Maybe en route to saving Eddie, Anne was able to feed Venom to keep him satisfied while they were together. Or maybe, Venom didn't brutalize his temporary host because admitted he "likes" Anne.

HOW CAN EDDIE BROCK HAVE A SECRET IDENTITY?

Eddie and Venom formed a pact at the end of the film: they'd stay together as a team but Venom can't kill humans (unless they're really bad people). This means occasional murder will be part of their method of operation as "lethal protector" of San Francisco. But how can Eddie maintain a secret identity at all?

All throughout Venom, Eddie was seen in public leading car chases and morphing into Venom in full view of people - who all have smartphones and must have recorded the spectacle of a monster on the city streets. Eddie was also spotted by his security guard friend trying to break into their TV news building. Not to mention that Venom left a pile of dead bodies in Eddie's apartment when the Life Foundation attacked them - with Eddie's musician next door neighbor as a witness to the carnage. This is all compounded by the fact that Eddie was already a locally famous news personality even before he became part-monster. Not only should it be impossible for Eddie/Venom to maintain a secret identity, but Brock should also be in jail, not back working as a reporter as if nothing ever happened.

IS VENOM PART OF THE MCU OR SPIDER-VERSE, AFTER ALL?

The big question for the Venom franchise is whether it will be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Venom is very much a standalone movie that sets up its own sequels in the mid-credits scene, which introduces Cletus Kasady (Woody Harrelson), who will become infected with a symbiote and become Carnage. However, Venom was also careful not to contradict anything in the MCU, keeping the possibility open that the film could be folded into the MCU at some point in the future. If that were to eventually become the case, it's possible Venom could share the city with the San Francisco-based Ant-Man and the events of the film may have happened before Thanos' finger snap.
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While there is no mention of Spider-Man in Venom (despite pre-release rumors of a Tom Holland cameo), the film does include John Jameson, who is the son of J. Jonah Jameson. It also mentions the Daily Globe, which is a reference to the New York newspaper Eddie Brock once worked for in the comics. Neither J. Jonah Jameson nor the Daily Globe have been mentioned in the MCU but Jameson is in the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies. Astronaut John Jameson (Daniel Gillies) was J. Jonah Jameson's (J.K. Simmons) son and the boyfriend of Mary Jane Watson (Kirsten Dunst) in Spider-Man 2. While it's very unlikely Venom is set in the universe of Sam Raimi's trilogy, it currently has more ties to those films than it does to the MCU.
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Venom: 25 Crazy Fan Redesigns Better Than The Movies





Venom opened last Thursday to lukewarm reviews, with critics citing the movie’s lack of logic and weak character development, leading to an approval rating of 32% on Rotten Tomatoes. However, fans have been disagreeing with the critics, and the movie has broken the October opening weekend record by more than $20 million as a result.

The movie’s popularity is hardly a surprise, though. The symbiote has had a large following ever since its introduction as Spider-Man’s enemy in the Marvel comics back in 1984. Eddie Brock made his cinematic debut back in 2007 in Spider-Man 3 and the Venom symbiote made a cameo appearance in the trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man 2. But this standalone film in Sony’s Universe of Marvel Characters marks the villain’s biggest mainstream break yet.

The Venom symbiote’s first host in the Marvel universe is Spider-Man, and is initially a sentient alien costume, but it is perhaps best known for its association with Eddie Brock. The symbiote and its offspring have also taken over plenty other psyches and bodies throughout the comics, boosting the aliens’ popularity even further. Before you read the article, keep in mind that there are spoilers for the new Venom movie as well as some for the comics. There are also spoilers for the Marvel Cinematic Universe, particularly for Avengers: Infinity War, and other related comic books. After all, Venom is closely associated with Spider-Man, so we’d be remiss not to talk about our favorite web-slinging hero.Without further ado, here are 25 Crazy Fan Redesigns Better Than Venom.

25 VENOM VS SPIDER-MAN

Venom is perhaps best known in conjunction with Spider-Man, but sadly neither Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield, nor Tobey Maguire are in the new movie. However, Jebedai Couture has inked some astonishing works featuring a Venom-Spidey showdown. The tension is especially apparent thanks to the high level of detail in Spider-Man’s face, even with the mask on. He looks a bit beaten up, so let’s hope that Spidey ends up okay.

Unfortunately, we can’t find the original post because the account is deactivated, but the artist has plenty of other amazing art included in his portfolio.

24 COLLEGE VENOM


Tom Hardy has reached his forties now, and his portrayal of Eddie Brock is a grown man as a result, much like the original comics.

What would Venom be like if Eddie were a young adult?
In mangamie’s “Marvel College” project, various Marvel characters are now college students. Now instead of an investigative journalist, Eddie seems more like the English major who pens incendiary op-eds in the school paper and constantly documents everything with an edgily souped-up vintage camera. It could also make the dynamic between Venom and Spider-Man all the more interesting if they’re closer in age.

23 VENOM BLACK PANTHER

Thanks to the 2018 movie of the same name, the iconic Black Panther has seen another surge in popularity. T’Challa was even a veritable scene-stealer when he made his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut in Captain America: Civil War.

Sadly, he’s one of the folks disintegrated by Thanos in Infinity War. Perhaps he’ll make a comeback with a symbiote, like in this drawing by junkome. Sure, the chances of that actually happening are slim to none, but combining an alien symbiote with the powers of the heart-shaped herb is an awe-inspiring and fear-inducing concept to toy with nonetheless.

22 SHE-VENOM

If you didn’t know already, Anne Weying becomes She-Venom when the symbiote bonds with her in the comics. She-Venom does make a brief appearance in the Venom movie before Anne transfers the symbiote back to Eddie, but she deserves even more screen time, like in this piece by Chronorin.

It’d be interesting to explore Anne and Eddie’s differing experiences with the symbiote.

She does meet an unfortunate end due to the trauma of having bonded with the symbiote, so let’s hope she gets a happier ending on the big screen.

21 VENOM TRANSFORMATION

The internet freaked out over the character designs when the first trailer dropped, especially over Eddie’s transformation into Venom. The process goes by pretty quickly, but this piece by Royy_Ledger gives us a glimpse of what Eddie looks like just as the symbiote is about to take over.

In the movie, it kind of seems like Eddie’s just being covered up by a sentient suit, but in this drawing, you can see his body beginning to meld with the symbiote, with his skin giving away to alien tissue. The eyes are the cherry on top of this creepy sundae.

20 VENOM WITH THE INFINITY GAUNTLET


Clayton Crain is a professional comic book artist who has worked on Marvel projects, but this painting is too good to pass up. As if Venom weren’t powerful enough, Crain has drawn the creature with the Infinity Gauntlet, ready to obliterate half of the lives in the universe with just a snap of its fingers.

Let’s just be glad that the symbiote isn’t bonded with Thanos while in possession of the Gauntlet.

Venom is usually associated with dark, grim colors, but the multicolored lights of the Infinity Stones enhance rather than undercut the symbiote’s authority.

19 VENOM SUPERMAN

The Venom symbiote has been in several alternate Marvel universes, so who’s to say it can’t cross over to DC? Charddskinnylee imagines an alternate universe in which the symbiote has bonded with Superman.

The Kryptonian superhero is next to invincible and has a super strong moral compass, so in order for the symbiote to take over, it would really need to dig deep for Superman’s darkest traits. Or perhaps this is an alternate timeline in which Superman willingly gives up control, giving into his most sinister impulses and teaming up with the symbiote.
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18 VENOM GHOST RIDER

The 2007 Ghost Rider movie and its 2011 sequel—both starring Nicolas Cage as the titular superhero—aren’t what you’d call the best in the genre. That said, now that the film rights to Ghost Rider have been reverted to Marvel Studios, maybe Johnny Blaze will get another chance to shine.

Johnny doesn’t get completely lost when transforming into Ghost Rider, so maybe he’ll be able to fight off the symbiote.

Mephisto bonds Johnny with the demon Zarathos since he fails to get Johnny’s soul, which makes for an interesting dynamic if Johnny ever bonds with the Venom symbiote, like in this piece by junkome.

17 FEMALE VENOM

She-Venom already exists in canon as the result of Anne Weying bonding with the Venom symbiote, but this work by alecyl imagines a world in which the symbiote bonds with a woman from the get-go, instead of with Eddie Brock.
Having the symbiote bond with a woman would put a female character at the forefront in a genre dominated by men. Perhaps Dora Skirth actually survives being exposed to a symbiote, and comes back as a possible ally for Venom’s next adventure, strongly hinted in the post-credits scene as a clash with Carnage.

16 TOM VS TOM


Tom Holland’s take on Spider-Man in the MCU has delighted fans and critics alike, so it’s no surprise that folks like raichu.copper would want Venom to face off with a revamped Spidey. The details in this piece are stunning, complete with passersby in the background taking horizontal videos of the altercation.

The physical difference between the two huge, making us worry about Spidey’s safety.

Plus, Peter isn’t exactly feeling well after the events of Infinity War, so he’s not really in the best position to fight Venom at the moment.

15 VENOM SPIDER-GWEN

Gwen Stacy’s unfortunate passing has long been a point of contention among fans of both the comics and of Marc Webb’s series. In an alternate universe, the radioactive spider bites Gwen instead of Peter Parker, leading her to become Spider-Gwen.

She-Venom-1 has created a piece that merges Spider-Gwen with the Venom symbiote, and she looks positively scary. She still has her iconic white hood, but everything about her has jarring angles now, and even her hands and feet are claws.

14 VENOM VS ANTI-VENOM

With the limited runtime of a movie, it’s obviously impossible to stuff a ton of characters from the original comics. Maybe Anti-Venom—another one of Venom’s “offspring”—could make a cameo at some point, resulting in a showdown like the one in this piece by thorup.
In the original story, Mac Gargan eventually becomes the new Venom and attacks Eddie.

However, the symbiote tries to reunite with Eddie, who ends up becoming Anti-Venom due to a new symbiote created by the remnants of Venom and the white blood cells in his body.

13 VENOM BATMAN

Another potential crossover with the DC Universe is Venom Batman, drawn here by Algiark.

Batman’s already a formidable force without any superpowers of his own, relying on intense training and advanced technology. Bonding with the symbiote would certainly make his enemies cower. Or he might actually join forces with his enemies with a symbiote feeding off of the darkest impulses in his heart. After all, Batman has had to bring himself back from the brink before. So let’s just hope that Superman would be there to prevent disaster by mentioning Martha again.

12 MAYDAY PARKER


Mayday Parker, aka Spider-Girl, has yet to make an appearance on the silver screen, but she’s been kicking villain butt in the comics. Even though she’s yet to appear in any movies, she’s been wildly popular with fans like Hunter407, who has created this mesmerizing piece of Venom Mayday in black and red.

Peter and Mary Jane were already super worried about May being Spider-Girl, trying to hide their past from her. They would most likely be devastated to hear that their daughter has bonded with one of Spider-Man’s most menacing enemies.

11 VENOM JOKER

Yet another frightening Marvel-DC crossover idea? Venom Joker, as drawn by Anny-D. Joker has already shown time and time again how little sympathy he has for others, a trait that makes him all the more menacing.

Adding the Venom symbiote to the mix would be an absolute nightmare.

Spider-Man and Batman would have to team up to fight two of their worst enemies. They might also want to brainstorm a game plan with their other superhero buddies. We’re hoping Venom Joker don’t get access to the Infinity Gauntlet.
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10 LASHER, RIOT, AND PHAGE

The symbiote Riot appears in the movie and bonds with Carlton Drake, the main antagonist, but there are plenty of other symbiotes that have yet to be featured. Two of those symbiotes include Lasher and Phage, drawn here by HellMivenaro.

In the comics, the Life Foundation tries to create super-cops, and bonds its best security guards with the seeds of Venom. These five symbiotes have relatively short-lived appearances. Given the changes made to Venom and Riot for the movie, maybe they can have even more significant roles in a potential sequel.

9 VENOM BATMAN VS SPIDER-MAN

As a highly imaginative addition to a Marvel-DC crossover, Talez01 pits Venom Batman against Spider-Man in a distressingly one-sided battle. Batman has shown that he can hold his own fighting crime both alone and with the Justice League, even though he has no superpowers. Spidey versus Batman would already be quite a sight to behold, but add in the Venom symbiote?

Things aren’t looking great for Peter Parker.

He’d better enlist the help of both the Avengers and the Justice League-- maybe even with a side of the Defenders for good luck.

8 MARVEL SYMBIOTES


If the Venom symbiote bonds with supervillains, the good guys are going to have to team up. But what if multiple good guys join forces with the symbiotes instead? ShadetheMystic gives us a look into a dark alternative reality in which Iron Man, the Hulk, Captain America, Daredevil and Wolverine have bonded with these aliens.
The most heart-wrenching new villain would have to be Cap, the moral center of the Avengers who has fought against every evil imaginable. And poor Bruce Banner—now he also has to grapple with a symbiote, too.

7 APRIL PARKER

Mayday Parker doesn’t bond with a symbiote in the comics, but she does have a clone named April Parker, drawn here by thelivingmachine02. The kicker?

April is a Symbiote Hybrid, which grants her the powers of both Spider-Girl and Venom.

Thankfully, April, aka Mayhem, is largely on the good guys’ side. She becomes a vigilante who, unlike other superheroes, was totally down to stop villains by any means necessary. She’s no longer alive in canon, but if she ever makes a cinematic appearance, hopefully she’ll stick with the good guys.

6 VENOM DEADPOOL

Deadpool is one of the most popular antiheroes in pop culture, so it’s no wonder that fans like Vinz El Tabanas have merged him with the Venom symbiote. Maybe Deadpool’s ability to break the fourth wall would make it easier for him to stay in control of the symbiote and hopefully keep his sense of humor.

Regardless of the ramifications, it’s good to see that at least Venom Deadpool still retains his fondness for Mexican food, although he might now be a little more tactless when trying to get a taco.

5 VENOM VS SPIDER-MAN

The Venom symbiote makes an appearance in Spider-Man 3, taking over Spider-Man’s suit, enhancing his powers and making Peter’s personality more sinister. In this fan-made poster by TheGlassEmperor, Spider-Man gets another shot at his symbiote story arc.

Since Tobey Maguire’s Peter Parker is a grown man, it would be interesting to see the effects of an alien symbiote on the teenaged version played by Tom Holland.
He’s nerdy, chipper, and painfully earnest, approaching everything with wide-eyed curiosity. Maybe Peter will come back with the symbiote feeding off of the trauma caused by the events of Infinity War.

4 VENOM VS CARNAGE


If you stuck around for the credits of Venom, you would’ve seen the post-credits scene in which Eddie interviews Cletus Kasady, played by Woody Harrelson. It’s only a little snippet of footage, but Kasady eventually becomes Carnage, one of Venom’s most notable enemies in the comics.

Director Ruben Fleischer actually deliberately saved Carnage for a possible sequel in order not to steal the spotlight from Venom. With the movie’s stellar opening performance at the box office, fans might be able to see a showdown between the two characters, like this one by xericho with a Jurassic Park twist.

3 VENOM ROCKET RACCOON

The Avengers and even some DC characters have been included in this list, so of course the article wouldn’t be complete without showing some love to the Guardians of the Galaxy. Well, “love” is one way of describing merging the Venom symbiote with Rocket Raccoon.

Rocket Raccoon has been genetically modified, but he pretty much retains the physical appearance of a normal raccoon.

It wouldn’t be a surprise if he’d gotten bigger after bonding with the symbiote.

In this incredible piece by jumkome, however, he looks a lot more menacing, even a bit wolf-like.

2 VENOM VS SUPERMAN

In a less bleak timeline, however, fans like DanielDahl imagine Superman staying true to himself and the values instilled in him by Jonathan and Martha.

Superman blasts Venom, promptly obliterating him- for now.

The Superman symbol in the background does give off a slightly ominous tone, though. Maybe Superman did bond with the symbiote, and fights back after it goes to another host. The fight seems one-sided, but merging Venom with the old Kryptonian symbol for hope (according to Superman: Birthright) suggests that Superman might not be rid of the symbiote so easily after all.

1 VENOM YODA


Fandom has its ups and downs, but it’s definitely not lacking in the creative department. David Vercher has created a Venom version of Yoda that also incorporates elements of Darth Vader. Not only has Yoda bonded with a symbiote, he’s also turned to the dark side with his strong Force sensitivity.

If the Jedi Order wasn’t in trouble, it certainly is now.
If this were the alien being that Luke encountered on Dagobah, the young Jedi certainly would not have underestimated Yoda the way he did in Empire Strikes Back.
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Venom Erases Spider-Man To Avoid Marvel Mistakes






Venom may owe his origins to Spider-Man in the comic books, but in the movie version, Marvel's hold on Disney means no Spidey at all. But while some fans worried that removing Spider-Man from Venom's origin would be a problem, it actually makes for a way better story - and honestly, one much closer to Venom's current origin, too.
By now even casual fans will be familiar with the classic origin story for Venom, if not from the comics, then the fact that Spider-Man 3 adapted it almost to the letter. Spider-Man brings an alien suit back from space, which eventually shows an 'evil' mind of its own. Spider-Man rejects the symbiote until it finds the same level of hatred for Spidey in Eddie Brock. Man meets suit, and together they become Venom to launch their revenge on Spider-Man in a tale many claim the Venom movie SHOULD have told.
The problem with that version of a Venom origin movie? It's faithful to the original version of the comic books, sure. But it's a story that makes Spider-Man the real star of the show, plus... that's not what really happened, according to modern Marvel Comics.

VENOM SHOULD BE EDDIE'S STORY, NOT SPIDER-MAN'S

It's easy to see why there would be an outcry over the need to remove Spider-Man from Venom's origin movie. After all, the moviegoers who would know Venom's origin best are Spider-Man fans, and who would wish to see Spider-Man in the movie more? (Not to mention removing Spider-Man means no iconic Venom logo.)

But what fans want isn't always what's best, and in the case of Venom, the existing origin has one major problem: in the comics, it's told as one of Spider-Man's most formative stories, with Eddie Brock a victim of Peter, the symbiote, and professional failure. While a victim's story could be interesting, and has been used as a jumping-off point for other superhero origins... those heroes aren't Venom. Besides the fact that the Venom movie is trying to have some fun with Eddie and the symbiote's fusion, it's built on the idea that Eddie is a good man, ruined by evil forces - not a bitter, angry, jealous man fueled by hate of Spider-Man as he was in the comic.

One of those descriptions fits a movie hero... the other fits a villain unlikely to star in a fun, subversive, and oddball body horror adventure. The result is a better version of a Venom movie. "But," we're sure some die-hard Spider-Man fans will cry, "you're making Venom a different character!" And by twisting his origin to make Eddie and the symbiote a misunderstood antihero, the makers of Venom have done just that... but Marvel Comics did it first.

MARVEL HAS CHANGED VENOM'S ORIGIN ALREADY

Revisiting the comic book history of Eddie Brock and his time as Venom means traversing more than one major retcon, or retroactive changing of his origin story. Fictionally, it's an expansion and deepening of Eddie's story. But practically, like most other retcons, it's about 'fixing' past writing or plot that hinders the character's next step forward. And for Eddie Brock, the idea of him being a byproduct of Spider-Man has been minimized, downplayed, or altogether changed since he first set out to play a hero in Venom: Lethal Protector, upon which the movie is based.
People who walk out of Venom excited to read that comic book inspiration are in for a rude awakening, however, since Spider-Man is without question the WORST part of it. Because Peter Parker is misinformed about who Venom is, what motivates him, and who he has become as more than just the hero's villain. Arguably, every bit as misinformed as the people claiming the Venom movie 'got it wrong' by removing Spider-Man altogether.

As we see it, the makers of the Venom movie just learned from the missteps and corrections Marvel Comics has made so they wouldn't make them in the movie, too. The first step? Taking Spider-Man out of the equation to create the Venom modern comic readers know and love.


VENOM AVOIDS MARVEL'S OWN COMIC MISTAKES

In Venom's first solo comic outing, Spider-Man is an antagonist for completely flawed reasons. Despite Eddie being every bit the normal, evil-hating human he is in the comics, Spider-Man actively fights him, believing he's still as evil as Marvel made him in his origin story. In his defense, Spider-Man was just late to the party, unaware that Marvel editorial, and a long line of writers and artists were already beginning to make Eddie and Venom not evil, just... misunderstood.

The changes came one by one: the Venom symbiote wasn't hateful, but a traumatized member of an alien symbiote race, Eddie Brock's rough exterior becomes a result of a cold, distant, single father, and just weeks ago, the origin was changed once more by showing that Spider-Man was evil, not the symbiote when they first merged. It's flawed thinking to assume a movie should recreate each one of those steps, rather than looking at who Venom is today, and aiming for that from thee outset.

Still, one feels for director Ruben Fleischer for having to make that call, since he has admitted that removing Spider-Man from Venom was a challenge (that's the origin everyone knows). But the finished film shows it was the right path to take for one simple reason: the Venom of the movie is basically the one Marvel took decades to arrive at. Not just Eddie the relatable hero, but the symbiote's personality, voice, sense of humor, and even love for its host.

THE MOVIE VENOM IS THE TRUE COMIC VENOM

In fact, the moments of humor and love from the symbiote may turn off older fans of the origin hero, while hitting the bullseye for the modern incarnations. After all, Eddie and the symbiote had a baby not too long ago in the comics, and it's not hard to see a Venom movie sequel embracing that strange, borderline ludicrous plot. Leave the theater and go pick up the newest issue of Venom, and the version may not be perfect copies, but more importantly, the strengths of one are alive in the other.

And, perhaps most importantly, the existence of Spider-Man is a footnote, or back-up character at best. By now even Peter Parker understands that his time with the symbiote was a fluke, or coincidence, compared to the character Eddie and Venom became.

In Marvel's Universe, there may not be a greater romance than Eddie Brock and the Venom symbiote - and when audiences line up for a great love story, you don't bother starting with the flings, one-night stands, or bad dates that came before.
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VENOM Director Ruben Fleischer Attempts To Address One Of The Movie's Biggest Plot Holes




Love it or hate it, there's no getting around the fact that Venom isn't a particularly well-written movie and now director Ruben Fleischer has been quizzed about one of the movie's biggest plot holes...


Venom is a movie full of a plot holes but one of the biggest has to be when it becomes clear that no time has passed for Riot since he bonded with that little old lady in Malaysia despite the fact that we get a six month time jump for Eddie Brock after he's fired. Being bonded with the same host for six months should have had a greater impact on the Symbiote so how does Ruben Fleischer explain that?
The simple answer is that he doesn't; instead, he actually laughs it off as being a "necessary" plot hole!

"Our idea was that Riot was using up the life force of whoever he took, and then he jumped ship when he'd consumed them and then find a new host to carry him further on his journey. That's a good question. That's one of our few - hopefully - few logic bumps. But we had to have a passage of time in order to show Eddie's downfall, and that was the one thing that doesn't entirely track."

That really doesn't seem like a satisfying explanation and the fact that the director was happy to release the movie with "logic bumps" and things that don't "entirely track" is mind-blowing.

Fleischer then went on to reveal what Riot was doing all those months he was attempting to find Carlton Drake. "But I like to think that old lady was going around murdering all throughout Malaysia, and she was just having a good old time just shooting shards through different people in Malaysia.
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Venom Does One Comic Thing So Much Better Than The MCU



Warning: Spoilers for Venom!

Venom may have received some brutal reviews from critics but it still does something much better than the Marvel Cinematic Universe: call characters by their superhero/supervillain codenames without being embarassed.

In Venom, the titular antihero bonds with reporter Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy). What's more, he introduces himself to his unwilling human host as "Venom." The toothy, carnivorous alien also explains that they have to stop the symbiote team leader named "Riot", who ends up bonding with billionaire Carlton Drake (Riz Ahmed). They plot to bring more alien parasites to conquer the Earth, but regardless of how it's strange that they both have names in English that sound just like comic book codenames, the symbiotes are very comfortable just being called "Riot" and "Venom."

Many fans wish the superheroes of the MCU would be as proud of their names as Venom is. The Avengers actively shy away from using their codenames and they rarely refer to each other by their "made-up names", as Spider-Man (Tom Holland) calls them. After all, in Avengers: Infinity War, Spider-Man introduced himself to Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) as "Peter" first. Meanwhile, Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.) may revel in being Iron Man, but he's actually more famous as his billionaire-genius-playboy civilian identity. The moment at the end of Iron Man when Stark impulsively told the press "I am Iron Man!" likely opened the door for the MCU to play very fast and loose with the comic book staple of codenames.


In the MCU, characters tend to tiptoe around using their codenames, which can be annoying. Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) shies away from calling himself Captain America, leaving it to others to refer to him by that moniker. Others called out even having a codename: Scott Lang (Paul Rudd) bristled at being called Ant-Man and he even apologetically told Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) that the codename "wasn't my idea". Meanwhile, the MCU's Spider-Man apparently didn't even name himself; he became known as "the Spider-Man of YouTube" thanks to the videos of his heroic deeds people uploaded onto the Internet. James Rhodes (Don Cheadle) was called Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3, but he hasn't been referred to as War Machine properly since.

Still, there are Avengers who have not been referred to by their codenames at all. Fans know Wanda Maximoff (Elizabeth Olsen) as Scarlet Witch and Natasha Romanoff (Scarlett Johansson) as the Black Widow, but those codenames haven't been uttered on screen. Natasha being referred to as "Agent Romanoff" when she was part of S.H.I.E.L.D. was the closest she has come to using a codename, but maybe the Black Widow solo film will finally remedy this. Clint Barton (Jeremy Renner) is similarly never called Hawkeye, though he was winkingly referred to as "the Hawk" in Thor. And as for Sam Wilson, his winged flight pack had the designation EXO-7 Falcon, but the hero himself doesn't seem to be called the Falcon. Overall, the MCU heroes who have headlined their own movies use their codenames more, which could be part of the reason by Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Falcon have dodged being called by their comic book monikers.
Instead of fully embracing superhero names, the MCU tends to use them indirectly - like a drunken Stark challenging Rhodey by saying "You wanna be a War Machine?" in Iron Man 2 - or make offhand jokes about them. However, perhaps the biggest cause of codename rejection is that most MCU heroes avoid the secret identity trope, so they are much more free with just referring to each other by their real names. Even Spider-Man, who protects his real identity from the general public, has been more open about other superheroes knowing who he is, which is a big break from the comics.

Simply embracing the absurdity of the comics, right down the unexplained comic book names, is just another example of what makes Venom refreshing for fans. However, in the post-credits scene Cletus Kasady (Woody Harrelson) drops a coy wink to his red symbiote's name, saying "There's gonna be carnage!" So maybe Venom does belong in the MCU after all.
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Venom 2 Can Add His Logo WITHOUT Spider-Man



Sony's Venom movie brought the symbiote superhero to life, but without his iconic chest logo. The filmmakers had a good reason for leaving Venom's white spider insignia out, but in Venom 2, the door is finally open to create the exact Venom seen in Marvel Comics - and do it without Spider-Man.

For some fans who know the original origin of the symbiote and Eddie Brock, that might seem downright impossible without completely rewriting the comic source material. We would argue that's not necessarily a reason NOT to change comic history, since Venom ignoring Spider-Man in the movie actually gave fans a better adaptation of who Venom is today. Could the same hold true here? We won't know until Venom 2. But there's one thing we do know:

Venom did NOT get his logo from Spider-Man. And trust us, the true origin of the Venom logo isn't just better... it has all the makings of a Venom movie trilogy like no other.



The Myth: Venom's Logo is Just Spider-Man's


For most casual (or simply not current) comic book fans, the origin of the symbiote's insignia comes from Spider-Man along with the suit itself. Spider-Man found the black ooze-suit during the Secret Wars event, it covered him and synced with his mind to create his new Spider-Man comic uniform, until he learned it was a living "parasite" trying to permanently bond with him. Marvel would eventually clarify this story to confirm that Spider-Man was wrong, not the symbiote, meaning Eddie Brock was a better fit for "Venom" all around.
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In that first version of the story, Eddie simply wore the same suit worn by Peter Parker, just with more muscles and a monstrous mouth. Fans knew long before the Venom movie was released that Spider-Man wouldn't be included, simply having Eddie find the alien symbiote and cut out the friendly neighborhood middle man. As a result, logic dictated, Venom couldn't have that classic spider logo.

But that's only been true in the first version of Venom's origin. In recent years the symbiotes have had their history rewritten as part of a much larger, much more fantastic godly epic. Besides changing the origin of the symbiotes as a whole, it also made the Venom insignia something far more meaningful.

The Truth: Venom's Logo is an Ancient Symbol

It's understandable for fans of Spider-Man to bristle at the modern rewriting of symbiote history, since - like most retcons making Venom his own character - it paints Peter Parker as something of a galactic dunce. Where he was once the creator of his own great villain, the symbiote lore has turned his part in Venom's creation into a coincidence - a brief role akin to a small child finding the Holy Grail, drinking from it, then tossing it aside for a new champion to begin a great quest worthy of such a relic.

So yes, the filmmakers and fans are right to say that Venom's logo WAS similar to Spider-Man's. But the Venom comics have made that factually incorrect in recent years. Well, in recent year, to be exact. Because the latest Venom reboot finally unlocked the true origins of the symbiotes, as the creation of an Elder God billions of years in the past. An Elder God named Knull who created the symbiotes as a weapon. And an Elder God whose symbol is still pressed on Venom's chest.

So removing Spider-Man from Venom's movie origin doesn't have the slightest impact on his famous logo. But embracing the TRUE origin of the symbol Venom wears on his chest means a Venom movie villain that would blow Thanos out of the water - and make Carnage nothing but an appetizer...



Venom's Logo is Knull's, God of The Symbiotes

The current Venom reboot from Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman has changed the cosmic side of Marvel's comic history in some big ways, revealing the true origin of the symbiotes and their creator, one of the Elder Gods of the Marvel Universe. Before the Celestials set about shaping the universe, there was the Abyss - and it had one ruler, named Knull. To fight back the light Knull forged a blade out of his living, black Abyss to slay one such Celestial. This blade would become the first symbiote, with which Knull would conquer the universe built where his Abyss once rested.


This is the new history told to Eddie Brock just months ago in the pages of Venom #4, when an ancient symbiote dragon emerges from S.H.I.E.L.D. containment to terrorize New York. When Eddie challenges the creature, it parts to reveal the Host controlling it: Knull himself, in the form of a pale-faced man in a suit of symbiote armor... with the famous winged, horned Venom logo emblazoned on his chest. The only difference being the tail of said winged dragon.

The implications are confirmed as the story continues, showing the symbol to be the one chosen by Knull upon leaping into war with his first symbiote blade, All-Black the Necrosword in hand (the same weapon seen back in 2015's Thor: God of Thunder epic). And if the red color is making it hard to see Venom's logo as that of Knull, take a look at how he first appears in the full armor:
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So how could Knull, God of the Symbiotes be forgotten? When Knull's connection to the millions of symbiotes he created was cut - thanks to an ancient blast from Thor - they claimed new Hosts, and eventually rallied to imprison Knull. Their plans worked, and over millennia the symbiotes forgot (or at least Eddie's did, being so long removed from the symbiote Hive Mind). But when Knull reconnects Eddie's symbiote to his own power once again, a new insignia forms upon it in response, unlocking its full memories and new powers, including remembering the true purpose of the Venom logo's "stripes," which unfurl into demonic wings like Knull's.
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The symbiote's love for Eddie reunites them as Venom, of course. But for movie fans, the emergence of Knull shows a direct way of Venom's ancient insignia forming upon its chest - even if the symbiote itself isn't sure whose idea the logo really was. Now, if only there was some pivotal life moment, or key event in a symbiote's lifespan expected in Venom 2 that would connect Eddie's symbiote to the larger Hive Mind...

The Birth of Carnage Can Give Venom His Logo


As the Marvel fans certainly know, the Venom post-credits scene introducing Woody Harrelson is as direct a tease for Venom 2 as one could possibly have. Cletus Kasady, a.k.a. Carnage becomes a symbiote serial killer when Eddie unknowingly leaves behind a spawn of his own symbiote. The symbiote bonds with Cletus, and both sides of Venom are now responsible for bringing him down.

In the comics this surprise spawning began a new chapter of Venom's history, and fans will hope for the same on film. But most of those fans will probably hope Venom 2 makes a bigger deal of the symbiote spawning than the comics, as the idea of anything unknowingly giving birth is a little silly (the most recent time Eddie and the Venom symbiote gave birth was a larger affair). And since ignoring Spider-Man isn't a problem for giving Eddie his ancient logo in Venom 2, the symbiote reproducing seems as fitting a time as any to connect to the Hive Mind in preparation.

No need to complicate things further, or even explicitly detail the history, or existence of Knull in Venom 2. The comic fans will know what the logo means, whether it sports the dragon tail of Knull or a subconscious tweak by Eddie to the body of a parasite (nice callback). The fans who just want the logo returned will be just as pleased, and it will all be connected to Venom's true origin story - not the Spider-Man version we all believed was the truth.
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'Venom' Chinese Trailer Released




Sony Pictures has released the Chinese trailer for Venom. The film opens in the region on November 9th.
Venom has been in theaters for two weeks in North America. The film won its second weekend in a row with $35.7 million following a record-breaking $80 million opening weekend. Venom's domestic box office total will climb to $142 million domestic, making it the 12th-biggest movie of the year
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Venom is also the top number one film worldwide. Globally, Venom has earned $378.1 million, making it the 16th-biggest film of the year before opening in China.
Venom helped push Sony to a more than $1 billion box office total in 2018. Venom's success could be just the start to of big things for Sony. The film is meant to be the starting point for Sony's universe of films focused on Spider-Man supporting characters and villains such as Morbius, Black Cat, Silver Sable, and Nightwatch. The Morbius movie stars Jared Leto and is expected to begin filming in early 2019.

Venom is directed by Ruben Fleischer and was made with a $100 million budget. The film has received mostly negative reviews from critics, managing only a 30 percent Rotten Tomatoes score, but fans have been much more positive on the film, awarding it an 88 percent audience score.
Venom also set up a sequel with Venom's nemesis Carnage. While the studio is looking ahead, producer Avi Arad has said that the film might not be the R-rated take that fans expected.

"You know what? When you hear Venom…forget Venom. When you hear, Carnage, the only thing you can think of is R. But, if you know his story, if you really know the comic, there’s no R here." Avi Arad said in an interview. "He’s a tortured soul. It’s not about what he does, because we never have to show the knife going from here to there, and the blood is pouring. What you have to show is, what is the motivation? Was he born like that, or it’s someone we should feel for, because if you are succeeding to make a villain someone you can feel for, jackpot."
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Venom 2 Will Have To Change Carnage's Origin





The inevitable Venom 2 already faces a major challenge: Sony is going to have to make dramatic changes to Carnage's origin story. Sony has good reason to be delighted with Venom's performance. In its opening weekend, Venom grossed $80 million in the domestic box office and a total of $205 million worldwide, with an impressive second-week hold. Considering that the film had a budget of $100 million, it's already made a profit.

All this means Sony's Spider-Man villain universe has gotten off to a remarkably strong start, and a Venom sequel is inevitable. Star Tom Hardy has already revealed that he's signed up for three Venom movies, and he seems amenable to extending the contract too.


What makes Venom 2 so exciting is that its story has already been heavily teased. Going by Venom's post-credits scene, the tongue-slavering symbiote go head-to-head with one of his most popular foes, Carnage. However, fans who know the backstory of Cletus Kasady may have noticed Sony has a bit of a problem there...


CARNAGE IS VENOM 2'S VILLAIN

Venom's post-credits scene sees Eddie Brock pay a visit to San Quentin prison, the oldest and most infamous jail in California, to meet a convicted serial killer, Cletus Kasady, played by Woody Harrelson. Kasady has scrawled a message on the wall of his cell in his own blood, welcoming Eddie to San Quentin, and delivers an ominous warning that he's planning to escape - and that there will be "carnage." It's a fan-pleasing scene; in the comics, Kasady is ultimately exposed to the spawn of the Venom symbiote. The murderer's psychosis damages the symbiote, driving it equally insane, and he takes up the identity of "Carnage" - one of Marvel's most dangerous, bloodthirsty villains.

Sony put on an exhibit at New York Comic Con in support of Venom, and it included a notebook that reveals Carnage's cinematic backstory. It tells a chilling tale, of a bloodthirsty boy who seems to have been taken in by his grandmother after his parents passed away. The young Cletus killed her by pushing her down a flight of stairs, and was then placed in the care of St. Estes Home for Boys. Brock suspected the fire that burned the orphanage down was Kasady's revenge against a disciplinarian administrator. It looks as though Kasady's murderous impulses became more pronounced in his teenage years, and when one girl turned him down he shoved her in front of a bus. Kasady was incarcerated after going on what Brock called a "huge massacre" in New York City, but proved too dangerous to be held in Ryker's Penitentiary when he slaughtered 11 other people there. That's when he was moved to solitary confinement at San Quentin. It's unclear why Kasady has fixated on Brock, but that's an obsession Eddie should be deeply concerned about.

Venom director Ruben Fleischer has openly admitted Carnage was being saved for a sequel. The first film was about establishing Venom's world, with the post-credits scene demonstrating that there are legs for the franchise. At the same time, though, he's already set up the narrative to work in a slightly different way to the comics; in the comics, Eddie Brock was imprisoned at San Quentin in the cell next to Kasady, and when he broke out he unwittingly left the spawn of his symbiote behind. In the film, Brock (a good guy) merely visits Carnage's cell at San Quentin, and the post-credits scene doesn't hint that his symbiote spawned at all. Instead, it looks as though Kasady will break out and go hunting Brock down.

VENOM'S RIOT USED UP CARNAGE'S POWERS

But that's not the only problem facing Sony. In the Venom films, it looks as though every symbiote has a slightly different powerset. The Venom symbiote is considered something of a "loser" by its own people, and has very basic powers. But higher-ranking symbiotes are far more formidable, as demonstrated by "team leader" Riot's abilities. The Riot symbiote was able to form strands of its symbiotes into fearsome weapons; spears, swords, or - its favorite - axes. It could even launch fragments of itself as razor-sharp projectiles, killing all around it.

But here's the catch; in the comics, none of these tricks are typical of the Riot symbiote. Instead, they're characteristic of Carnage. Venom appears to have made Riot more of a threat by granting him Carnage's powerset. Worse still, the film clearly demonstrates that Riot's personality is very similar to Carnage's. Riot killed indiscriminately for no other reason than it liked the feeling of shedding blood, revelling in violence and bloodshed just like the comic Carnage symbiote.

This causes a lot of problems for Sony; how do you make Carnage truly feel like a unique new threat in Venom 2, when you've already used his typical powerset and even a rough version of his character attributes?


IS CARNAGE A CHILD OF VENOM?
The most obvious way Sony could rewrite Carnage's backstory for Venom 2 is to mesh the movie setup with the comics. Cletus Kasady breaks out of San Quentin and, true to his word, targets Eddie Brock. Based on that diary backstory, Kasady's goal won't just be to kill Brock; he'll want Eddie to lose everything first. That opens up the notion of Kasady first targeted the people Eddie cares about, ranging from friends to colleagues to his ex. Brock may be able to protect himself from Kasady, but will even Venom be able to keep everyone around him safe from the maniac's ire?

Related: Carnage's Origin is Too Twisted For a Marvel Movie
Meanwhile, another sub-plot could see the Venom symbiote reproduce. Perhaps Venom hopes its spawn will bond with Anne Weying, as part of a wrong-headed desire to bring her back into Eddie's life. But the young symbiote wouldn't cross paths with Anne; instead, it would be found by Kasady. Young and vulnerable, the symbiote would be overwhelmed by Kasady's own homicidal nature, and thus Carnage would be born.

This is a simple concept, and it could make for quite a chilling film as Kasady and Brock play a dangerous game of cat-and-mouse even before Cletus truly becomes Carnage. Unfortunately, it doesn't really explain why the Carnage symbiote's powerset is so different to Venom's. That raises the second possibility.

IS CARNAGE ANOTHER TEAM LEADER?

But will Venom 2 go bolder? It's easy to forget that the symbiotes are still coming en masse. Venom revealed that the symbiote race had discovered life on Earth, with the comet stumbled upon by the Life Foundation was their idea of a spaceship. We don't know how long the symbiotes had been traveling before the Life Foundation picked up some samples - inadvertently granting the symbiotes an advance scouting party - but it's surely not the end of their mission.
Given that the movie Riot has Carnage's powers, it may be that Venom 2's Carnage will be another team leader: Kasady escapes from San Quentin and begins to hunt Eddie Brock before coming into contact with the more space-side of the universe. This brings two aspects of Venom - Eddie and the symbiote - together in the villain, and has enough story potential to perhaps build into a third film, possibly a Maximum Carnage-style event. It's a change-up from what's in the comics, but better fits the thrust of Sony's universe so far.

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These are the two main possibilities, both of which take some liberties with the comic book canon. The second idea fits best with Riot's powerset in Venom, and indeed turns Riot into a sort of precursor to Carnage. As such, that's probably the strongest theory, but only time will tell which route Sony choose to take with Carnage in Venom 2.
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VENOM Hi-Res Images Focus On The Symbiotes And Venom's Epic Battle With Riot


Now that Venom is in theaters, some incredible VFX images have been released which put the spotlight on quite a few of the movie's symbiotes along with the action-packed battle between Venom and Riot...



Believe it or not, Venom cost Sony Pictures only $100 million and while an argument could be made that that was reflected in the meagre 90-minute running time, there's no faulting the movie's special effects. In fact, both Venom and Riot looked incredible and it's easy to see why so many comic book fans are now anxious to see Eddie Brock go toe to toe with Cletus Kasady (Carnage) in the sequel.

Now, with Venom in theaters, some VFX images from the movie have been released and they put the spotlight on some of the best scenes, including Venom's battle with Riot during the final act. If you haven't watched Sony's first live-action Spider-Verse movie, then there are some minor spoilers here but nothing which should ruin your enjoyment. For the most part, they're all just really cool.



Tom Hardy's bizarre facial expression in this image pretty much sums up his crazy performance in Venom, right? Regardless, it's easy enough to see why Eddie Brock was freaked out by Riot's ugly mug.


The symbiotes didn't play as large a role in the movie as some fans would have liked and the reason why they killed some hosts pretty much instantly was never delved into. They sure look cool, though!


It's widely thought that this symbiote was supposed to be Scream but seeing as it ended up dying due to not being bonded with a suitable host, we never actually got to see that villain in this movie.


Regardless of whether you loved or hated Venom, there's no denying that the visual effects were impressive. Sony has a spotty track record in this regard but the VFX exceeded expectations.


Riot had many of the same powers as Carnage so Sony will have to really come up with something special to distinguish that villain form this one when he inevitably makes an appearance in the sequel.




While the symbiotes look incredible here, Eddie Brock and Carlton Drake look like video game characters! Ultimately, this sequence was so quick, it didn't hurt as they weren't on screen that long.



While it's a shame that Venom didn't have the white spider logo on his chest, Sony deserves some props for giving him some sort of white pattern and that will hopefully further develop in the sequel.



Here, Venom is about to eat the head of the crook who has been making Mrs Chang's life a nightmare for so long. Whether the punishment fit the crime is something we'll leave you to decide.

What do you guys think of these images from Venom? Were you impressed by the visual effects in the Marvel movie? Let us know your thoughts on that in the comments section down below.
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Venom Theory: Spider-Man is DEAD in Sony's Universe

Warning: SPOILERS for Venom



The Venom movie may have disappointed fans hoping to see Spider-Man make an appearance, but there may be a good reason for Peter Parker's absence. The more Sony reveals plans for their own Venom-led universe... the more it seems like its version of Spider-Man may already have been killed.

Strange as it may sound, there really is evidence to support the theory that Peter Parker died long before Venom begins. But even stranger is the fact that given how little Marvel seems to care about Venom crossing over with Spider-Man and the MCU, building a movie universe with a dead Spidey night actually be the best idea. Especially since it opens the door for Sony to debut a Spider-Man of their own. One a bit more... Ultimate.

VENOM IS BORN INTO A WORLD WITHOUT SPIDER-MAN



There are practical reasons for telling a Venom movie that ignores Spider-Man, the most important being Marvel's apparent disinterest in backing a film starring Eddie Brock that's as incorporated into the MCU as Spider-Man: Homecoming. And to be honest, the writing needed to remove Spider-Man from Venom's origin story is minimal: Eddie stumbled onto the Venom symbiote after Peter Parker... so just have Eddie stumble on it first. The result isn't just an easy fix, but as we've explained already, removing Spider-Man from Venom's origin is better than trying to make Eddie his own character after the fact - a lesson learned by Marvel Comics.

But that only establishes that in Venom's continuity, Spider-Man isn't required to appear. There is other evidence in the film suggesting that Peter Parker no longer exists in Venom's universe. At least not in the way that he should.

By now most fans will have noticed that the one survivor of the Life Foundation shuttle crash is referred to as "Jameson," an overt nod to J. Jonah Jameson's astronaut son John from the comics. But the moment is more than one of the many Spider-Man Easter Eggs in Venom - but a major hint that the webslinger is missing from this story. You see, John Jameson was introduced as an astronaut back in Amazing Spider-Man #1 experiencing a similar crash - until Spider-Man showed up to save him. Several different stories have adapted the same plot as tribute, whether it's Spider-Man battling Rhino robbing the shuttle, or John being infected with an alien parasite (just like in Venom) and having Spider-Man show up to save him. Which makes the callout, and the lack of Spider-Man in this version of the story a conscious choice.

KRAVEN THE HUNTER'S MOVIE SEES SPIDER-MAN KILLED


The real smoking gun (pun intended) that suggests Spider-Man may not just be absent from Sony's movie universe, but has actually been removed from it by force is the Kraven The Hunter movie also in development. The titular villain is well known to Spider-Man fans, originally planned to appear as one of the Sinister Six teaming up to take down Spidey in their own movie. But that was before Marvel's deal, and the sudden sense that Spider-Man wouldn't be "allowed" to appear in films not produced by Marvel Studios.
That alone made a movie starring Kraven The Hunter an enigma, since the one story he's best known for stars Spider-Man in a central role. That mystery turned to confusion when reports arrived that screenwriter Richard Wenk was actually relying on that very same comic story, "Kraven's Last Hunt" for his movie adaptation. The story in which Kraven famously killed Spider-Man, claimed his identity for himself, and having bested his greatest prey, took his own life.

It's a heck of a story, and one that was and could be focused on Kraven, with Spider-Man existing unseen, but felt. Set it in the same timeline but before the events of Venom, it could become a semi-prequel, with everyone now knowing why Spider-Man is "missing" from Eddie Brock's story. However, some might protest, Sony would never give up on a Venom crossover with Tom Holland's Spider-Man, would they? But that's where the real potential of this theory kicks in. Because even if Peter Parker is dead in the Venom movie universe... that doesn't mean Spider-Man has to be.
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Every VENOM Easter Egg & Marvel Secret You Missed




Warning: SPOILERS for Venom

The launch of Venom may not officially be adding another branch onto Marvel's Cinematic Universe, but it does man another batch of Easter eggs and less than obvious franchise connections. Just don't tell Marvel any of the ways that Sony's first Spider-Man Universe movie after Homecoming hints at the comic book source material.

You don't make a movie based on Eddie Brock, ak. Venom, without letting your love of the antihero take over, and even before Venom's post-credits tease, the movie is filled with extended universe nods, cameos, shared Marvel connections and comic book references. Naturally, this list is packed full of spoilers, so if you haven't seen the movie yet and don't want to be spoiled, don't continue.

Director Ruben Fleischer made no secret of the Easter Eggs that he was hiding in Venom, even letting a few spill before the movie's release. However, now that the film is out, we've done our best to collect some of the subtlest, coolest, and most exciting Venom Easter eggs, secret backstories, references, and tiny details that most fans might miss.

With one final SPOILER warning, let's get started.


Here are the 20 Things You Completely Missed In Venom.

20 J. Jonah Jameson's Astronaut Son


It's hard to believe that Sony was the first to pay some kind of tribute to J. Jonah Jameson, the famed editor of New York's Daily Bugle. As the Marvel side of the Spider-Man universe has yet to follow up J. K. Simmons' portrayal since Peter is still years away from his photojournalist job, Venom does drop the name every fan is waiting for - just... not where you expect. When the emergency vehicles arrive on the scene of the Life Foundation's crashed ship, only one member of the shuttle's screw actually survives the landing.

Eventually it's revealed that the Riot symbiote has kept him alive, but at first, all we know is his name: Jameson.

He is John Jameson, the adult, astronaut son of J. Jonah, reliving his brush with space born symbiotes that fans witnessed in Spider-Man cartoon series.

19 Carnage's Venom/Eddie Separation


The brutality with which Riot fights can't be understated, even with Venom warning Eddie that the "team leader" has tricks unlike anything they've faced before. Still, Venom holds its own for a while, until Riot determines that the traitorous symbiote has found himself a strong host - and starts trying to forcibly rip the symbiote away from, then off of Eddie's body. It climaxes in a storm of liquid symbiote tendrils, Eddie and Carlton Drake duking it out along with their symbiotes.

However, it starts with Riot tearing the top half of Venom's head and jaw off of Eddie's skull, forcing both to let out a scream in pain. The director promised that they had tried to recreate comic covers and panels directly, and the homage to the famous cover art for Venom: Carnage Unleashed #3 is impossible to miss - even if it's Riot doing the separating, instead of Carnage.

18 "So Many Snacks... So Little Time."

The scene in which Venom makes his full-body debut is a bit different than the version of it glimpsed in the trailers (there's no instance of the antihero's iconic "We... Are Venom" line until the final scene). However, Venom does make the longer form of his threat, embracing his carnivorous urges and his delight in tormenting "bad guys," eyeing up one goon and considering aloud, "Eyes, lungs, pancreas. So many snacks... so little time." It's a line that got made fun of in early marketing by skeptics since it's not your typical superhero dialogue, but it too is another homage to the comics.

This exact line of dialogue is first delivered in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man #374. Even better is that Venom is delivering it directly to Spider-Man in the comic version. Unfortunately, another goon intercedes before Venom can really get to selecting an organs as a human delicacy, but it doesn't mean that he's kept himself from consuming human bodies. Of course, it's actually biting off heads that turns out to be Venom's greatest pleasure - and with very good reason, should fans do research into the comic book source material...

17 Why Venom Craves Brains... Or Just Chocolate

When the trailers for Venom seemed to depict the symbiote opening its jaw unnaturally wide and swallowing its prey whole, most comic book movie fans probably assumed it was for effect, and didn't actually imply that Eddie was going to eat bad guys. However, that's exactly what he was after. Believe it or not, he does have a reason for doing it. It's the same one as the comics, and the final scene of the movie makes a clever, winking joke of it to the audience members in the know.

After Eddie tells his new symbiote that they must establish ground rules for coexisting - the most important of which is to almost never eat people - Venom seems to agree.


Instead of a brain, Venom requests "Tater Tots... And chocolate." As the comics eventually explained, the eating of heads isn't wanton violence, but the symbiote's best way of attaining phenethylamine, a chemical that stimulates the brain in humans. This is required by symbiotes of Venom's species. However, it can also be found in another substance: chocolate. The good news is that Venom gets to enjoy both sources of phenethylamine in the movie's last scene.

16 Finally, The Venom Dog


For all of the variations of symbiotes, there is sure to be none more appreciated than the combination of symbiote... and a Papillion puppy. The dog, named Gemini (which is a clever bit of foreshadowing) is accompanying its owner in the hospital where Anne's new boyfriend is employed. While said boyfriend, Dan, says that the dog can't be kept in the hospital, even if the owner is staying next to her husband in a hospital room, she ignores him - and that's all the difference for Eddie Brock's story. When the symbiote is separated, it sneaks through an air vent until encountering the next stable life form available: Gemini.

Sadly, only the dog's determined walk and a brief glimpse of the black and white of the symbiote sliding across Gemini' s eyes is offered up for fans. However, it's still a fantastic homage to the grand tradition of symbiote dogs, which are seen in the comics. However, whether it's the War Dog Lasher in a modern Carnage epic or the dog Venom adheres to in order to escape the arctic colds, neither has been so brilliant as to combine this insatiable monster and one of the most objectively dainty and adorable breeds.

15 The Birth of She-Venom


The moment of understanding that flashes between the symbiote puppy and Anne, Eddie's ex-fiancee is one of the movies weirdest, but their partnership soon saves Eddie's life. As much as our hearts soared, hoping that the lashing limbs taking out Eddie's kidnappers would be revealed as the work of a symbiote dog, the reveal is even better. With one final attack on Treece, Carlton Drake's head of security, and a sensual, somewhat sinister "Hi, Eddie," the first case of a female Venom is revealed. Anne has teamed up with the symbiote, making yet another comic book character part of the movie's canon: She-Venom.

The movie version of Anne may differ from the comics, where Eddie and Anne were married and divorced, but the design for her time in the symbiote suit is virtually identical (minus the spider suit, of course). Also in the comics, Anne dealt out shockingly lethal levels of violence, which made the experience a painful one in later issues, not the simple power rush of the movie. However, the comics drove Anne into enough guilt to take her own life, so we'll accept this change.

14 The Venom Kiss

What will probably be pointed to as one of the weirder moments of the movie is the way that Anne and the symbiote reunite. Seeing Eddie passionately kissing the face of Venom isn't what any fans expected - even if the actual time spent kissing the symbiote is mere seconds, before it pulls away to reveal the kiss is happening between Anne and Eddie (less weird). However, when Eddie asks Anne about the kiss in the final scenes, she slightly stammers, before claiming that it was the symbiote's idea.

This may just be a cover for Anne revealing her feelings, but if she's right, then the Symbiote's urge can be taken two different ways.

It may be have sensed Anne's feelings, and decided a kiss between former loves was the best way to move from one host to another (which makes us really happy we didn't see Venom combining with that dog). Or the symbiote may have desired the kiss itself, reflecting the fairly straightforward love between them in the comics. Heck, Eddie and Venom just had a kid together in the comics, although this kiss isn't quite as memorable as Thanos kissing a Venom-ized Death. However, it's close.

13 Stan Lee Cameo


It wouldn't be a Marvel or Marvel-related movie without a cameo from comic book icon Stan Lee, now downright expected by even casual fans. The tone of Venom might make many fans assume that Lee passed this one up, but once the dark breaks, Eddie recovers, and establishes some kind of peace with the symbiote, the cameo arrives. As Eddie leaves Anne behind, trying his best to hide the fact that he retained the symbiote, he walks right past Stan Lee - who offers words of encouragement, saying that he really will win Anne back… that both of them will.

It's a new level of meta for a Stan Lee cameo, as he's apparently able to see both Eddie and Venom. Perhaps it's a sign that Lee's role as a Watcher informant is becoming less of a secret. The real twist is Venom replying by asking who the old man - credited as Dapper Dog Walker - even is. It's an extra joke for comic fans, since Lee had nothing to do with the creation of the black symbiote suit or the superhero it became.

12 Carnage Post-Credits Scene

Stan Lee's cameo is good for some laughs, but it won't be the one fans leave the theater talking about. That distinction goes to Woody Harrelson's post credits cameo as Cletus Kasady, aka Carnage, still locked up in San Quentin. Having requested a meeting with Eddie Brock, the interview is brief, to say the least. The scene is meant as a true tease of Carnage, the red-hued, psychotic symbiote, but it also shows what changes will likely be made to the story.

For starters, the first time Eddie and Cletus met in the comics was when they were assigned to the same prison cell. Venom came to rescue Eddie, and left a spawn behind to enter Kasady's blood, creating Carnage. Should fans assume that this take on Cletus recognizes the symbiote in Eddie, perhaps after having a run in with a symbiote that helped him commit crimes, perhaps? We'll just have to wait and see.

11 Eddie's Apartment Building is No Coincidence


Fans or comic historians may already know the strange origin of Venom -- back when he was introduced as nothing but a black suit Spider-Man picked up in space. The idea was actually offered to Marvel years earlier, when a fan sent a letter to Marvel's editors recommending Peter Parker get a new suit, colored black, and made from the same recarice material as the Fantastic Four. The fan soon got a letter and an offer of $220 in return, since Marvel wanted the idea. The fan agreed, and Spidey's black suit eventually followed.

It was only within the last decade that the fan in question publicly revealed himself as Randy Schueller, not seeking ownership, just wishing that he had been given recognition somewhere along the line.

Thankfully, he gets it in Venom, when the goons chasing Eddie reveal that he lives in The Schueller Building, of all places.

10 Michelinie & McFarlane Law Firm

It wouldn't be right to only pay credit to one of the people responsible for the creation of Venom proper, and the movie makes sure to include them all. In fact, since it's Eddie's snooping into Anne's work emails and her being fired for it that sets his mission in motion, you could say the creators are just as integral to the movie. The law firm at which Anne works also represents The Life Foundation - the firms of Michelinie and McFarlane, as in Mike and Todd, the creators of Venom, respectively.

Plenty of other comic writers and artists have handled the character and its related symbiotes since, but Eddie's early struggles with his Other, and the visual design of Venom belongs to Michelinie and McFarlane.

9 The Closest We Get To Venom's Chest Symbol

For as much of the core Venom look as the movie gets rights, for many fans, Venom just isn't Venom without his famous insignia: the white spider emblazoned on his chest, with white lines extended outward under the arms. This design is missing from the movie version, but for good reason. Since these images were based on the symbiote's time with Spider-Man - an aspect of his comic book origin that is skipped over in the movie - there's no logical explanation for it to be there at all. However, there is a nod to it.

When Eddie is impaled through the chest by one of Riots spears, he seems to be passing away until the symbiote returns to him. When it covers him, joins with him, and heals him, the symbiote pulls the spear back out of their chest. When it does, the void is filled by bright white symbiote material. It only lasts a second, but kudos to the filmmakers for nodding to his comic insignia at all, let alone in such a pivotal scene.
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8 The Famous Wilhelm Scream

It just might be the oldest Easter egg in existence, relying on being heard and not seen to lay hidden in too many movies to count.

Known as “The Wilhelm Scream,” the over dramatic wail of a wounded, falling, or far-flung man is impossible to miss.

It's so much of a known quantity for movie fans that some viewers of Venom are likely to see other audience members react to it when the audio sample makes its way into Venom's second act battle scene (when Swat surrounded Eddie in the lobby of his former employer).When the fight gets going, and one man is grabbed by a symbiote tendril and yanked off his perch, you hear the sound, and know beneath the body armor and mask… we have our Wilhelm.

7 Eddie's Connection to San Francisco's Homeless


Its no secret that the movies uses the comic book arc titles “Lethal Protector” for its foundation, but in truth, it only uses it as a basic premise. The comic took Eddie Brock and his symbiote to San Francisco, sure, but that was already after he merged with the symbiote in New York and ran afoul of Spider-Man. Upon arriving in San Francisco and starting fresh, Eddie finds himself embroiled in a wild story of homeless people developing sunken buildings from an earthquake into a secret community.

The movie never gets as silly as that, but it's nice to see the bond between Eddie Brock and those living on Dan Francisco streets honored. In fact, it's Eddie's friendship with one homeless woman who makes him Venom to begin with.

6 Eddie's Old Editor, Barney Bushkin

There are several allusions to Eddie's past work as a reporter in New York, which is also where his comic book story begins - and where it ends in embarrassment, after his investigation into a criminal called The Sin-Eater is foiled by Spider-Man catching the real guy. The movie doesn't go into details, but it does call out the Daily Globe by name - the rival newspaper to the famous Daily Bugle - as Eddie previous place of employment. However, things didn't go too bad when Eddie left, judging by his text messages.

During a short montage of Eddie looking for work, he's shown texting someone for a possible lead on a job. That someone is listed as Barney Bushkin, editor of the Daily Globe, and fierce enemy of J. Jonah Jameson.

5 The Original Goal Was To "Cure Cancer"

The villain of the movie graduates to totally evil pretty quickly, making it hard to believe that he was ever trying to actually do good. However, a single line of dialogue hints at what The Life Foundation's mission actually started as (or the team assigned to the symbiotes, at least). Originally, the doctors were trying to cure cancer.

This is often used as a throwaway excuse for doing good, but in the case of the symbiote, it's also a nod to the comics.

It's a nod to the Ultimate Spider-Man version of Venom, to be specific. In this alternate universe, the symbiote suit was the creation of both Eddie Brock and Peter Parker's father, built as a suit that could diagnose and cure the body by tapping into the wearer's brain. It's nice to see it connected to in the movie, even if the rest is sticking to the original Eddie origin.

4 Venom Was an Outsider on His Planet, Too

For those who don't pick up on Eddie's repressed urges to help his fellow man and defend those most vulnerable in the world, the symbiotes decision to ditch its plans and be a hero may seem to come out of nowhere. However, it does offer a single excuse for its change of heart, admitting that Eddie Brock is a loser... but so was it, on its home planet. This actually alludes to some major Venom storylines from the more modern expansions on the symbiote mythology - the biggest being the introduction of a whole planet of symbiotes, designed to be good, and virtuous symbiotes to other species.

Sadly, Venom made the mistake of selecting a host who was anything but virtuous, leading it to be traumatized and unstable. This made Venom a runt of the symbiote litter, so as much as older Venom fans might be thrown by this line of dialogue, readers of the modern Venom get the reference.

3 Meet Riot, The Symbiote Team Leader


While early rumors claimed that the movie would be following the comic book arc revolving around The Five Symbiotes, the assumption is incredibly misleading. Not only are there not five symbiotes in play, but the comic book arrived at those five symbiotes by removing them from Venom, and attaching the Spawn to hosts. In the movie, the symbiotes are on a mission to apparently take over Earth - led by the massive, vicious symbiote named Riot.

Riot is referred to as the "team leader" by Venom, which helps clarify how the filmmakers are combining two different symbiote groups. The "team" actually sounds like the group of soldiers loyal to the Symbiote Imperium of the comics, where Venom found himself due to not fitting in with the virtuous symbiotes of his home-world. In the end, it was Venom's inherent goodness that made his teammates hate him, just like in the movie.

2 Another Venom Artist Gets a Namedrop

While McFarlane and Michelinie get shout-outs on screen for creating Venom, they're not the only talent due some credit. After all, it was the "Lethal Protector" series that formed Venom and Eddie into the heroic duo being formed in the final scene - and this series relied on artist Ron Lim to show Venom could be his own headlining hero (who succeeded in the task beautifully).

Ron Lim would remain a major artist for many Venom fans in the years after, so it's only right that he should get some love from the movie.

Keep your eyes peeled on the background San Francisco businesses, and you'll spot Ron Kim's name used for an herbal shop.

1 Into The Spider-Verse Credits Scene

Finally, fans will want to stay all the way through the credits for what could be a disappointing preview, or an incredibly refreshing one. Not for a sequel movie starring Tom Hardy, but for the next Spider-Man movie: Into The Spiderverse. Marvel has stuck post-credits scenes onto the end of their movies that undercut the conclusion, while advertising a completely different hero's film.

Because of this, fans will have to decide if it's a good or bad surprise to find an extended preview of the new Spidey movie, without a glimpse of Venom. A resurrected and unconscious Peter Parker being dragged behind a train by Miles Morales, though? Sign us up.

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These are all of the Venom Easter eggs, subtle secrets, cameos, and Marvel references that we could spot. Did you notice any others? Let us know in the comment section!
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New 'Venom' International Trailer Reveals She-Venom


Venom is set to continue its box office invasion when it opens in China on November 2nd and Japan on November 9th. In order to promote those Asian market releases, Sony has put out a new Venom international clip and poster. While the one-sheet is a great piece of simple artwork capturing Venom in an iconic pose, the clip reveals a pretty pivotal part of the film: the introduction of She-Venom!
Watch the new Venom clip above, and check out the Chinese one-sheet, below:

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Video URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wt67BHV-hc

Now that the clip is out, here's the full SPOILERY breakdown of how She-Venom appears in the film:

"During the end of Venom's second act, Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) is finally discovered and captured by the Carlton Drake (Riz Ahmed), and is transported back to the Life Foundation for study. Unfortunately for Eddie, his former GF Anne and her boyfriend Dan (Reid Scott) have just used an MRI machine to separate Venom and Eddie - and when Drake discovers that, he instructs his man Roland Treece (Scott Haze) to take Eddie out into the woods behind the Life Foundation and execute him.
Eddie is on his knees about to get executed when he gets a miraculous save - from Anne, who tracked Venom through the hospital air ducts to where the symbiote was hiding in a small dog. Since Venom grows to like Eddie - and Anne - he decides to help out, and temporarily bonded with Anne in order to save Eddie. As She-Venom, Anne ruthlessly dispatches Treece and his men, and afterward, Venom quickly jumps back to Eddie. Anne is left slightly enamoured by the power she wielded as She-Venom - and slightly horrified that she bit one man's head off."

A lot of Marvel fans were impressed with Venom's She-Venom scene, and would love to see more of the character in sequels - which now some guaranteed, since Venom has earned more than half a billion dollars at the worldwide box office. For her part, actress Michelle Williams teased the future of Anne Weying as She-Venom, when we spoke to her at Venom's press junket:

"I actually only had one girl come up to me and say 'She-Venom... Man that is so cool.' Maybe once the movie [Venom] opens, then maybe more comic book fans will let me know more about this world... Gimmie a challenge."
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VENOM: New International IMAX Posters Are Easily The Most Wickedly Awesome Ones Yet

Despite a rough theatrical poster, Sony has really upped its game with some terrific alternate posters for their latest superhero blockbuster, Venom, and these new Chinese posters may be the best yet.




As we reported earlier, Ruben Fleischer's Venom has gotten off to an exceptionally strong start in China with an approximate $34.7 million opening day and is widely expected to top $100 million before the end of the weekend, which would make it only the second superhero movie ever to top the box office milestone in its opening frame, behind only Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War.

The Tom Hardy-starrer has, to date, earned $554.28 million worldwide ($201.3M domestic; $352.9M foreign) without China, but it's looking increasingly likely that it will have topped $600 million, maybe $650 million, worldwide by Sunday evening. A final finish in the $700 million to $750 million range also seems very doable now and is incredibly impressive considering its estimated $100 million production budget.






One of Marvel's most enigmatic, complex and badass characters comes to the big screen, starring Academy Award® nominated actor Tom Hardy as the lethal protector Venom.
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Venom Officially Beats Justice League at the Box Office


Continuing to exceed expectations, Venom has officially beat Justice League at the box office. Propping up an antihero as the lead in a big-budget tentpole may have been a creative gamble on Sony's part, but it clearly paid off.


In Venom, Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) is an investigative journalist who comes into contact with an alien substance while investigating the founder of an organization called Life Foundation, Carlton Drake (Riz Ahmed). In doing so, the alien substance - officially known as a symbiote - bonds with Brock and manifests as a super-powered alter ego known as Venom. Traditionally one of Spider-Man's arch enemies, this version of the character is more of an antihero than a villain, and despite mediocre reviews, Venom managed to garner a strong reaction from audiences; so much so that its box office earnings bested Zack Snyder's Justice League.

Data from Box Office Mojo reveals that Venom has already beat Justice League global box office with a current haul of $673.5 million - $15 million more than Warner Bros.' ensemble film, which capped off its theatrical run with a total $657.9 million earnings. With the movie still shown in cinemas around the world a month after its North American release, the antihero flick is close to being well on its way to $700 million gross.
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Venom's box office edge mainly comes from international markets, with Justice League maintaining a bigger haul domestically with $229 million against Venom's $206 million. Globally, however, Sony's film has already pocketed $467 million compared to Justice League's $428 million. The latest boost in ticket sales comes from China, where the film just had a record-setting $111 million opening, becoming the second highest opening weekend for a superhero movie just behind Marvel Studios' Avengers: Infinity War.
While Venom besting Justice League at the box office is impressive, it's also veiled in some irony. In 2013, before Snyder was brought aboard to helm Warner Bros.' first foray into the DCEU - Man of Steel - it was rumored that Venom director Ruben Fleischer was being considered to direct Justice League himself. This obviously didn't turn out to be the case, and Fleischer managed to avoid what turned out to be a difficult undertaking. Not only did Justice League face negative reviews from critics and audiences alike, it was marred by rewrites, extensive reshoots, and Superman's now-infamous digital upper lip. Fleischer, on the other hand, personally steered Sony towards its own cinematic universe, alongside upcoming movies likes Morbius the Living Vampire and Silver and Black.
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25 Things That Make No Sense About The Venom Movie



WARNING: There will be spoilers for Venom.

Despite poor reception from critics and low expectations all around, Venom is devouring box office sales. The newest Marvel film is even on track to smash the previous October weekend record with an estimated $80 million in sales.

Everyone around the world seems to be completely absorbed by Venom and the symbiote has been able to quickly invade and possess our minds. However, there were some scenes throughout the movie that broke us out of the alien parasite’s trance and brought us back to reality.

These scenes are those plot holes, oddities, and straight-up confusing devices that made us take a step back from the movie’s story and caused us to question its plausibility.

Even though superheroes and villains don’t live in our universe, we’d like to think that they could. We want the people in the movie to act like they would in real life and for the movie to essentially make sense in the real world. Therefore, when we catch these little nuances, it can break our concentration and cause us to get distracted from the film’s underlying plot.

So, get ready to break the symbiote’s bond, because here are the 25 Things That Don’t Make Sense About The Venom Movie.

25 Why didn't Eddie just text the evidence to his old boss instead of scaling a building?





We see Eddie doing everything it takes to get his old boss some evidence of the human trials at the Life Foundation. He even scales a building to leave his phone in his boss’ office – but what was he thinking?


Why didn’t Eddie just text or email the images to his old boss? Did he forget how phones worked?

Also, he ended up leaving his phone next to a note that said, “do the right thing”. How was his former boss supposed to know what that meant? Even if the phone didn’t have a passcode on it, the boss wouldn’t have known what he was supposed to be looking at on the phone.


24 What was Riot's plan?



Riot planned on going home and returning with an army of symbiotes. However, he didn't have a plan to get back. The symbiotes were forcibly brought to Earth so they didn’t know the planet's coordinates or have a big enough vessel to bring them back. In fact, how did they even have a plan to invade Earth if it wasn’t even their plan to be on the planet in the first place?
Riot also told Drake he needed Venom before they could leave. However, if the plan was to come back to Earth, why not leave Venom and see him when they returned? Venom said he was a “loser” so he clearly wasn’t vital to the plans.
23 What happened to the yellow symbiote?



Throughout the movie, we saw four different symbiotes. Venom was in the black symbiote and Riot was the silver one. Then, the blue symbiote was destroyed when Dr. Dora perished. So, what happened to the yellow symbiote? Also, why didn't anyone know about Riot?


A lot of people perished in Malaysia because of the symbiote, so why didn’t Carlton Drake link those events to that of a symbiote?

He also potentially knew there was a fourth one that got away and never went looking for it.
22 Venom's powers



When we’re first introduced to Venom, he tells Eddie Brock not to open the door. He could sense that someone was going to knock on the door before it happened. So why wasn’t Venom able to sense the drone approaching them in the alley or the car that hit their motorcycle at the end of the car chase?


Since Venom can’t stand sounds over 600Hz, it seems as though he has sensitive hearing and should’ve been able to hear the drones following him. Also, how does Venom know how to fight in a human body? He has never been to Earth and therefore wouldn’t have ever possessed a body with butt-kicking skills.
21 Were the San Francisco police trained by the Gotham PD?



There’s a running gag in the DCU that the Gotham police are absolutely useless when it comes to stopping crime. However, the San Francisco Police Department might give them a run for their money. During the entire scene when Drake’s henchmen chase Eddie throughout the city, there isn’t one cop around until the end.


These cops also let the henchmen go at the end of the scene and don’t seem to know how to apprehend criminals.

For example, when the SWAT team corners Eddie in the news station, an officer yells “MASK” to tell the squad to put on their gas masks. However, this also warns Eddie of their plans and gives him time to prepare.
20 Why didn't Carlton Drake's henchmen have a weapon to stun symbiotes?



The Life Foundation knew a lot about symbiotes. So, why didn’t they create a weapon to stop or stun the alien creatures? When Carlton Drake’s henchmen went after Eddie Brock in his apartment, they didn’t seem to know anything about symbiotes or what Venom was capable of doing.


However, they did know that symbiotes don’t like sounds over 600Hz. So, why didn’t anyone think to bring some music to stun Venom and get the symbiote back to the lab? It would’ve saved them a lot of headache and evil henchmen.
19 Why is Venom so emotional?



For a villainous alien parasite, Venom seems to be very emotional without any real reason. Throughout the movie, he made Eddie apologize to Anne for betraying her trust and protected the kids playing video games in the apartment he crashed into.


Venom also cried about being called a parasite and told Eddie that he wants to stay on Earth for him.

The last one was particularly odd because there was nothing in the movie that made Venom want to stay on Earth. We never see him connect with humans and we aren’t given any evidence as to why he fell in love with the planet or Eddie.


18 How do the scientists get the symbiotes back in their containers?





The symbiote in the blue container made its way through many different people. At the beginning of the movie, we see it attack Carlton Drake’s first “volunteer” and then, later on, it re-emerges from its container again to destroy Dr. Dora.


However, how did Drake and his fellow scientists get the symbiote back inside its container? They wouldn’t have been able to get close to the symbiote, let alone touch it, or else it would’ve possessed their body and potentially demolished every person it came into contact with.
17 Fire is everywhere yet doesn't hurt the symbiotes



Venom tells Eddie that symbiotes have two weaknesses: sounds over 600Hz and fire. However, the symbiotes come into contact with fire in multiple scenes throughout the movie and didn't seem too phased by it.


At the beginning of the movie, Riot comes across fire when he eats the eel in Malaysia but barely flinches when he sees the flames.


The symbiotes also all survived an explosive crash onto Earth and Venom walks through firey explosions throughout many points in the movie. Lastly, Anne calls these weaknesses the symbiotes’ “kryptonite”. How does she know what kryptonite is? This is a Marvel movie!


16 How does Venom know Riot's plan but not know who Anne is?





When Venom tells Eddie about Riot’s plan to invade Earth, Eddie asks him how he knows all this. Venom simply responds saying that he sees all and can see Eddie’s memories.




However, this explanation makes no sense because Riot’s plans were never in Eddie’s memories. Venom also never came into contact with Riot prior to this scene, so it feels a little random that he knew the symbiote’s entire master plan. Also, if Venom was telling the truth, why did he have to ask Eddie who Anne was later on in the movie? Venom should’ve been able to access Eddie’s memories and therefore would’ve known exactly who Anne was without having to ask.
15 Why is Dr. Dan such a bad doctor?

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Dr. Dan may have a Ph.D., but he doesn’t seem to act like a very good doctor. The entire audience saw Eddie’s MRI results and clearly noticed a large black entity circulating around his body.


So, why did it take Dr. Dan so long to notice it? It takes him hours to call Anne and tell her about Eddie's decaying body.

Also, even if he didn’t know about the parasite, Dr. Dan told Anne that there’s something terribly wrong with Eddie’s charts and that his heart seems to be decaying. Wouldn’t that have been immediately noticeable as soon as he got the results?
14 Are there no cameras in Drake's lab?



Eddie Brock is able to waltz into the Life Foundation without anyone noticing he was ever there. However, shouldn’t a lab as advanced as the Life Foundation have cameras?
A lot of illegal activity happens within the walls of the Life Foundation, so it would only make sense that they would install high-tech cameras in the event of an intruder. If they did have cameras, they would’ve easily been able to see Eddie in the labs and would’ve instantaneously known who betrayed the company.
13 Eddie just happened to be looking at Anne's laptop when she received a Top-Secret email



Eddie Brock doesn’t seem like he’s a top investigative reporter. However, it might just be because he has more luck than Deadpool’s Domino. At the beginning of the movie, he just happens to wake up in the middle of the night and walk over to his fiancé’s computer at the very moment that she’s receiving a top-secret email about the man he’s about to interview.


Not only is this very lucky for him, but it’s also very careless of Anne. Why is her laptop set to show the topic of emails before a password is entered?

If she’s used to working high profile cases, she should’ve developed some high-level security settings.


12 Venom likes chocolate and tater tots now?





Throughout the movie, we see Eddie Brock transform into a literal vampire. He’s always hungry after he merges with Venom and is constantly on the search for warm, living meat. However, at the end of the movie, Venom requests chocolate and tater tots as his meal of choice.
Does that mean that the symbiote and their host don’t actually have to eat meat? Or does that just mean that Venom adapted to his new way of life and evolved into an alien that doesn’t need meat to survive? Either way, we don’t get the answer from watching the film.
11 How can Anne program an MRI machine and the sound system at Drake's lab?



Anne is a lawyer in the film, but it seems like she’s actually in the wrong line of work. Based on her skills in the movie, she really should be in the IT field.


Without any medical or technical background, Anne is able to quickly turn on the MRI machine when Venom starts to attack Dr. Dan in the hospital.

She’s also able to find a working computer in a room that Riot trashed and easily program the sound system to play a deafening sound over 600Hz. Both of these feats don't seem like something a lawyer could’ve easily accomplished without any tech background or training.


10 Why don't the symbiotes attack any of the scientists in the room when it's released?



When Carlton Drake or his scientists release the symbiotes to bond with the lab’s “volunteers”, the alien blob immediately goes after its target. However, why don’t the symbiotes ever attack the scientist that lets it free?
Symbiotes simply need a body or host to live, so wouldn’t it have gone to the nearest warm body? Why have they been sparing the bodies of the scientists that free them? This is particularly true when Drake releases the symbiote to attack Dr. Dora. It seems as though the symbiote listened to Drake and attacked her on his behalf.
9 Why does Dr. Dora give up so easily?



Dr. Dora was terrified of Carlton Drake and what he would do to her children. However, she very easily gives in to his demands when she’s caught.


When Drake’s henchman confronts Dr. Dora about who betrayed the lab, she doesn’t even try to deny it.


Then, when Drake questions her about who she let into the lab, she very easily gives Eddie’s name and simply ignores the fact that the man standing before her threatened her children. Furthermore, if Drake wanted to keep things hush-hush, why did he hire so many doctors to work on his program or fire so many people? Wouldn’t they just leave and tell the world his secret plans?


8 The kids in the movie



arlton Drake doesn’t know how to interact with children. At the beginning of the movie, he tells a little girl an inspiring speech about how she shouldn’t let anyone silence her. However, he’s literally using his speech to silence her and never lets her ask him her question.

Later on, we also see him interact with the little girl from the Malaysian airport. He awkwardly asks the girl how she got into his lab and where she came from. However, as bad as he is with children, why is he the first person to do so? No one else wondered why there was a little girl walking the streets alone? And where were her parents?
7 The qualities of a "good host"



Both Venom and Riot describe Eddie as being a good host. However, he seems to be the very opposite of a “good host.”


Eddie has consciousness while he binds with Venom and can act out of his own free will. Wouldn’t that be the definition of a bad host?


Wouldn’t you want a host that will literally just do whatever you ask it to do? Also, why is Riot able to find so many tolerable hosts throughout Malaysia, yet the other symbiotes failed to even find one in a controlled lab setting?
6 Venom and Riot's fight was only 4 minutes according to the rocket's launch timer



One of the best parts of Venom is the fight scene at the end of the movie. In this scene, we see Venom and Riot fighting and catch some amazing clips of Eddie and Drake battling underneath it all. However, despite how epic the fight was, it was apparently only four minutes long.


When Drake sets the launch for the rocket, it flashes a five-minute countdown. By the end of the Venom-Riot fight, the countdown says “launch in t-minus one minute.” This means that only four minutes elapsed between Drake pressing the launch button and Anne turning on the deafening sounds that defeated the symbiotes.
5 Why isn't Eddie in jail at the end of the movie?



At the end of the movie, we see Eddie talking to Anne on her doorsteps. However, this isn’t where we should’ve seen Eddie. He actually should have been in jail. Many police officers and witnesses saw Eddie transform into Venom and eat people's heads. So, why is everyone able to move past this all and let a villainous man roam the streets of San Francisco?


Instead of being arrested for his crimes, Eddie gets everything he’s ever wanted.

He gets his job back, lands an interview of a lifetime, and starts winning back the love of his life. According to this movie, even villains can have a happily ever after.
4 How did Venom return and why is Eddie okay with the symbiote making his body decay?



The biggest question at the end of the movie is how Venom managed to come back after his grand sacrifice. Also, how much time elapsed between Venom’s goodbye and his return to Eddie’s body? The beginning of the movie had time lapses (ie. the main events of the movie started six months after Eddie lost his job) but these hints seemed to disappear by the end of the film.


We also learned that Venom was slowly decaying Eddie’s body. So, why is Eddie okay with this now and why didn’t he come up with a plan for his heath?
3 Stan Lee's Cameo



No Marvel movie is complete without an infamous cameo from Stan Lee. However, this cameo seemed a tad out of place. After Venom returns, Eddie walks down the street and runs into Stan Lee walking a tiny dog. The old man laughs and tells Eddie something along the lines of, “I hope you two can work it out with her.”

Now, this is simply comic book fan service, but it also raises some interesting questions.

Stan Lee has been revealed to be a Watcher through his cameo in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. So, why would he risk his cover by chatting with Venom and revealing that he knows more than he should?
2 The Mid-Credit Scene



“When I get out of here, and I will, there’s going to be carnage.” This line is what criminal Cletus Kasady tells Eddie Brock during Venom’s mid-credit scene. It provides great fan service for people that love the character but also leaves the movie on a mysterious and confusing note.


What does this mean for the future of Venom? Will there be a sequel? How does Cletus become Carnage? Is there another symbiote waiting to be discovered or has Cletus already been bonded? Also, more importantly, what is up with Woody Harelson’s cheap red wig?
1 The end-credit scene has nothing to do with Venom... or does it?



Meanwhile, in another universe, Sony utilized their end-credit scene to advertise their next feature film: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. We get a glimpse of the first time Miles Morales meets the alternate-universe Peter Parker at the grave of Miles’ Peter Parker. Then, the cops appear and Miles drags an unconscious Peter Parker on a chase through New York City.


Although the end-credit scene seems to be totally disconnected from the rest of the film, could it hint at Venom’s connection to the Spider-Verse? Can we expect him to appear in future Spider-Man movies, or was this simply a teaser for the next Sony film?
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How Venom's Success Could Change The MCU (And Spider-Man)



The unexpected box office success of Sony’s Venom could have a substantial impact on the Marvel Cinematic Universe. While many industry experts and critics had written off Sony’s attempts to turn its Spider-Man license into a viable superhero franchise independent of Marvel Studios, few could have predicted how financially successful it would end up being. Venom’s reviews were decidedly mixed, although that did little to discourage audiences who turned out in droves.

Against a reported budget of $100 million, Venom has grossed over $210 million domestically. Yet its real success lies in its international grosses. Venom opened in China with a staggering $111 million; that's the second highest ever debut for a superhero film in the market as well as Sony's largest debut ever in the country. Overall, Venom’s international grosses now exceed $780 million, which makes it the sixth highest grossing movie of 2018, ahead of Deadpool 2 and Ant-Man and the Wasp. What was widely written off as an inevitable flop has become one of the year’s real success stories. It’s also given Sony the seal of approval for its much-mocked Spider-verse.

Sony’s Marvel franchise exists in a curious state of limbo. It’s not officially part of the MCU and there are no official plans for the two to merge, but it’s clear to anyone who watches Venom that Sony’s ultimate aim is for Spider-Man’s iconic villains to one day stand alongside (or against) The Avengers. Now that Venom is a bonafide success story in its own right, though, things are shifted, to the point where Sony's successes could have a substantial impact on Marvel Studios.

VENOM’S SUCCESS MAKES AN MCU CROSSOVER MORE LIKELY



Currently, Marvel Studios, part of The Walt Disney Company, own the rights to the vast majority of the Marvel expanded universe. Once the merger with 20th Century Fox is completed, they will also have the X-Men, Fantastic Four and Deadpool under their control. Spider-Man and his universe fall under the umbrella of Sony. In 1999, at a time when Marvel was financially struggling, they sold the film rights to Spider-Man to Columbia Pictures, a subsidiary of Sony. As a result, Sony owns the film rights to over 900 Marvel characters, so it's no surprise that the studio is keen to make their own franchise as expansive as possible. While the MCU and Sony's franchises remained totally separate for much of the early 21st century, after The Amazing Spider-Man 2 proved critically and financially disappointing, the latter seemed to change track.

Soon a deal was struck; Sony would finance Spider-Man movies set in the MCU, while Marvel could also use Peter Parker et al in team-ups with the Avengers. This led to Tom Holland's Spidey joining the MCU, appearing in Captain America: Civil War, Spider-Man: Homecoming and Avengers: Infinity War, with future appearances in Avengers 4, Spider-Man: Far From Home and more in the pipeline. Aside from this, Sony started building their own shared universe in a bid to have a Spider-Man movie more frequently than once every two years.

Sony's desire for that spinoff universe to be in the MCU comes from positive branding, while Marvel's reluctance was deemed to come from the unproven nature of Venom, Morbius and others. However, now Venom is a proven hit (it's made more than every MCU origin movie aside from Spider-Man: Homecoming and Black Panther) there's considerably more motivation on the Disney side to reach some sort of crossover deal.


THE MARVEL/SONY SPIDER-MAN DEAL COULD CHANGE



For many MCU fans, the dream is for all Marvel properties to be under the control of one studio, thus ensuring maximum cross-over potential and a true expansion of the franchise as envisioned by the source material. The Fox merger with Disney is a big step towards that, and it's clear that the potential is there for Sony to dive further into that particular pool. However, the success of Venom may actually stop such things from happening.
According to box office analysts, Venom's financial success may end up invigorating Sony to the point where they feel like they don't need Marvel Studios' help anymore. This would mean the relationship between the studios would get weaker, not stronger, perhaps even putting strain on Peter Parker's presence in the MCU.


Bringing in over $780 million worldwide against the odds and making a bigger mark in China than your competition is good enough reason for Sony to feel confident in their Spider-verse game plan, with or without Marvel Studios'. Indeed, they may hold more bargaining chips on that front than the home of the MCU in that current context. With real money in the bank, Sony has little reason to give into Marvel Studios or sell the Spider-Man rights over wholesale.



MORE SPIDER-MAN VILLAINS MAY BE OFF-LIMITS FOR MARVEL

The crux of Sony’s Spider-Man villain universe lies in the rich, varied and iconic slate of villains that Peter Parker has faced up against over the years: from the Green Goblin to Doctor Octopus to Venom to Carnage and much more. While many of these characters have already been seen in other Spider-Man films, a lot of the fan favorites have yet to make their way to the big-screen. Venom’s post-credits scene promised Woody Harrelson's Carnage and reports indicate plans bring in everyone from Black Cat to Jackpot to Nightwatch. In the light of Venom's success, even obscure characters like Silk seem more probable to get a movie.


This too could have an impact on the MCU. So far, there's been no real overlap between characters rumored for Sony solo movies and villains primed to appear in MCU Spider-Man films; it's been assumed that the two companies work to keep things exclusive. With Venom's success, there'll be more Spider-Man villain movies and thus fewer characters for Marvel to pick from. Why let Carnage be a second tier supporting villain in the MCU, fighting for screen-time with more established figures, when he can be dominant in his own movie or front and center as Eddie Brock’s next fight?


Now, Marvel Studios aren’t short of villains for Peter to fight on their own turf, but Sony may limit that going forward even if the deal doesn't change.

VENOM TEACHES THE MCU A LESSON

Marvel Studios have done a remarkable job of establishing a consistent style and tone over the past decade. While some movies deviate into stylistic changes – for example, the neon-tinged retro nature of Thor: Ragnarok or the afrofuturism of Black Panther – ultimately audiences can watch the franchise and know, from film to film, exactly what they’re getting. They have, for the most part, eschewed the darker, more realist approach of their competition over at DC, and that has worked wonders as audience tastes shift. Sony’s big problem in establishing their own franchise was in finding a suitable style and tone that helped them stand out from the competition but wasn’t too disconnected from the MCU, just in case a crossover were ever to happen.



Venom is a curious movie in that, visually, it’s a darker style than its MCU counterparts, but its tone is also surreal and goofy. Sure, Venom may be a slick black parasite that eats people’s heads but he’s also a wise-cracking sidekick to Eddie Brock, who indulges in banter and casually dives into lobster tanks in restaurants. It’s a completely unexpected direction to take a Venom story in, given that the character is typically associated with an edgier tone. Instead, Venom is somewhere between a buddy comedy, a superhero movie, and a sci-fi-horror. It doesn’t always work but when it’s firing on all cylinders, it’s an absolute blast to watch.



Venom proves that taking well-known characters out of their comfort zones and playing with audiences’ expectations of them can pay off in a big way. It can be risky – there’s a reason everyone thought Venom would flop – but the benefits are also worth discussing. The MCU is unlikely to change direction any time soon since their own robust formula has proven near indestructible, but it may give filmmakers more freedom to consider their options. There is certainly room in their franchise for contrasting tones and styles.

Venom’s success offers a glimmer of variation in an increasingly saturated blockbuster market, but its future is inextricably tied to the MCU in the eyes of fans and the industry alike. For many, Venom will be incomplete without Spider-Man and the rest of Marvel’s universe by its side. Sony have far more options for their long-term business plan now that Venom is an undisputed success. The interesting part will be in seeing where they go when they have all the choices in front of them.
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'Venom' Blu-ray Reveals Hidden Easter Eggs in the Film




Sony's Venom might not have contained an appearance from Spider-Man, but it was certainly packed with plenty of Marvel Easter eggs and references. So many in fact, that some weren't even discovered until now, as press are getting the first looks at the special features on the Venom Blu-ray.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, two of the smallest, yet most insightful Easter eggs in Venom have been confirmed in scenes during the special features. Both of the references in question are nods to important creators in Venom's history.


The first of these comes early on in the film, when Anne (Michelle Williams) breaks up with Eddie (Tom Hardy) after learning that he read classified files on her computer, which led to hear being fired from her law firm. What you may not have noticed is that the law firm she's seen walking out of is named Michelinie and McFarlane.
If you're familiar with Venom comics, you'll probably recognize those names instantly. David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane were the duo who created Venom.

The second reference comes from Eddie's home. The film's protagonist lives in the Schueller Apartment Complex. This is a nod to a more unknown figure in Venom's history.
In the 1980s, a man named Randy Schueller wrote to Marvel and planted the seeds for Venom by suggesting that Spider-Man get an updated black suit, designed by Reed Richards. Marvel liked the idea and Jim Shooter, editor-in-chief at the time, wrote back to Schueller and offered him $220 for the idea. Schueller was supposedly also going to have a chance to write the story, but that didn't come to fruition.


The Venom Blu-ray will be available to purchase beginning December 18th, and it's packed with the following special features:
  • Venom Mode: When selecting this mode the film will engage informative pop-ups throughout the film to provide insight on the movie’s relationship to the comics, and to reveal hidden references that even a seasoned Venom-fan may have missed!
  • Deleted & Extended Scenes: These deleted and extended scenes will give fans even more of the Venom action they loved in theaters!
    • Ride to Hospital – Eddie and Venom take a ride to the hospital.
    • Car Alarm – Let’s just say that Venom is not fond of car alarms.
    • San Quentin – Extended post-credits scene at San Quentin.
  • From Symbiote to Screen: A mini documentary about the history of Venom in comics and his journey to the big screen. Interviews with Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, Ruben Fleischer, Oliver Scholl, and Director and Comic Fanboy Kevin Smith.
  • The Lethal Protector in Action: Go behind the scenes with the production crew and learn the secrets behind the awesome Motorcycle stunts, wire stunts, and drones.
  • Venom Vision: A look at how Ruben Fleischer came to the project, gathered his team, and made Venom a reality. Utilizes interviews from cast, crew, and producers as well as Fleischer himself.
  • Designing Venom: Designing and creating Venom meant a huge challenge for VFX artists; follow the amazing journey.
  • Symbiote Secrets: Blink and you may have missed it! Enjoy the hidden references throughout the film.
  • Eight Select Scenes Pre-Vis sequences: See the progression of the visual effects, storyboards and fight chorography compared to the finished film.
  • Venom” by Eminem – Music Video
  • “Sunflower” by Post Malone, Swae Lee (From Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse)
  • Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Sneak Peek: Meanwhile in another universe…
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