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Unread 2017-05-10, 02:25 PM   #1
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Default Is there any PROOF in the WH/Russia investigation

I figured I'd make a separate thread so this doesn't get lost in the almost as large as the pron thread.

Has anyone seen any proof of the admin working with the Russians before the election?

By proof I mean, a transcript of a conversation or such. All I see is, investigating, subpoena etc, etc. I'm sure since the FBI leaks like a sieve from the liberal insiders if they had any proof, it would be all over the Fake media.

Maybe someone on here has seen such a document or substantial proof they could post it here.
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I would imagine once they finish investigating, the lead guy will issue a statement/report.

oh, wait...
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LOL. Period.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-russia-237550

As for getting to view the actual evidence itself, show me any investigation where the investigating agency releases that information to the public before trial? Be smart man. Obviously there is enough evidence there to look into it. Maybe it's nothing, or maybe it's something. But there definitely isn't enough not there to take a stance of absoluteness that the admin is innocent.
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I'm curious, David, why do you care so much if your Golden Boy and his staff (current and former) didn't do anything illegal?

What would they have to worry about once all the facts are in and they didn't do anything wrong?

Given what's known right now, what if the tables were turned and this was about Obama or Hillary. Would you care then?

Be honest.
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I will check back later, maybe some evidence will appear.
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Yaaaahh, still not seeing any proof. But let's keep investigating, maybe we will find something if we turn over enough rocks. Whatever we find doesn't have to even be related.
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Yaaaahh, still not seeing any proof. But let's keep investigating, maybe we will find something if we turn over enough rocks. Whatever we find doesn't have to even be related.
Yeahhhh I mean there are so many ties there it's uncanny, but hey, let's just ignore them all because ya know, there's probably nothing there. I've never seen the fanboi of anything be so blind. I'm not saying he's guilty or that there is 100% something there, but Christ man, how can you not see that there is enough there to warrant an investigation.

Your claims of his innocence are based on what facts exactly? Because I've sat here and shown enough fact that warrants the matter being looked into. You on the other hand, can't produce one single fact that is enough to say it isn't worth being looked into. All you have is a gut feeling based solely on your like of the man, what he wants to do with our govt, and/or his politics.

You sir suck at debate/arguing.
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Emails. Benghazi. Birtherism. How long those investigations last?
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As I said in the other thread, if there was actual proof, something would've leaked by now. We are talking about the USG ffs.
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Looks like Brennan spent the day testifying and didn't provide any evidence.

Contacts between Moscow and Trump campaign began last summer, ex-CIA chief says

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Looks like we finally have proof that Russia was attempting to influence the election against HRC.

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Emails. Benghazi. Birtherism. How long those investigations last?
Funny you bring up the emails.

A former head of the FBI completed an investigation, found that laws were indeed broken, yet chose to not charge HRC.

Oh, still waiting on actual evidence of Trumps wrongdoing.
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Oh, still waiting on actual evidence of Trumps wrongdoing.
I wonder how long it will take you and DIY to get it through your skulls that it's the Trump campaign that's under investigation. As the ring leader, Trump is ultimately responsible for the decisions and actions of his staff, just like an CEO. It goes with the job. It's boggling that with his business experience he doesn't get this.
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I wonder how long it will take you and DIY to get it through your skulls that it's the Trump campaign that's under investigation. As the ring leader, Trump is ultimately responsible for the decisions and actions of his staff, just like an CEO. It goes with the job. It's boggling that with his business experience he doesn't get this.
It's boggling that the issue with the Russians began with the previous administration. Hell, Russia is puffing its chest right now daring the US to fly in Syria.

Yet all you cry is Trump is getting impeached. Which I'm still waiting for. How much time and money has been wasted with this shit?
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probably not as much as Trump has charged for his golf weekends...
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probably not as much as Trump has charged for his golf weekends...
But he's not going to have time to play golf like Obama did
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so less than a week ago, the position on Russian meddling was; "it didn't happen, this is all just a hoax that the Dems came up with to explain losing an election they should've won" and now he's running around saying that "its all Obama's fault for not doing anything about the very real Russian meddling, you should investigate him and he should apologize to me"...

his supporters are like the political equivalent of battered wives:
- he beats them by supporting cuts in programs they rely on
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and as I'm near certain we'll see when/if someone responds to this post;
- expects and receives their support when outsiders come to question his abusive treatment


in the immortal words of a moron "SAD!"
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So do you think Obama should have made the public aware of Russia's meddling early on or do you support his decision to keep it quiet?
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so less than a week ago, the position on Russian meddling was; "it didn't happen, this is all just a hoax that the Dems came up with to explain losing an election they should've won" and now he's running around saying that "its all Obama's fault for not doing anything about the very real Russian meddling, you should investigate him and he should apologize to me"...

his supporters are like the political equivalent of battered wives:
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and as I'm near certain we'll see when/if someone responds to this post;
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in the immortal words of a moron "SAD!"
The key difference is that Dems were trying to say Trump influenced it with colluding with Russia.

Now that it's known that Russia attempted to hack machines, yes, it happened on the previous admin's watch.
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So do you think Obama should have made the public aware of Russia's meddling early on or do you support his decision to keep it quiet?
He had two very bad options.

1. Bring it to light and investigate it. That would have hurt the Trump campaign and it would have the appearance of the administration attempting to influence a contentious election (and you can bet without a shadow of doubt that the GOP and Trump would have accused Obama of trying to influence the election).

2. Keep quiet about it to not bring attention to it in an attempt to keep partisan biases from affecting it or from making it appear as though he's attempting to influence the election at the cost of being criticized later for failing to act.
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He had two very bad options.

1. Bring it to light and investigate it. That would have hurt the Trump campaign and it would have the appearance of the administration attempting to influence a contentious election (and you can bet without a shadow of doubt that the GOP and Trump would have accused Obama of trying to influence the election).

2. Keep quiet about it to not bring attention to it in an attempt to keep partisan biases from affecting it or from making it appear as though he's attempting to influence the election at the cost of being criticized later for failing to act.

I tend to agree that these are the two most likely outcomes. However, I think there is a third choice. Russia's meddling didn't need to be tied to Trump early on, the media is to blame for that one. So how about Obama reveals what Russia is doing and instead of the media turning it into a Russia/Trump scandal, you play the sympathy card to favor Hillary. Instead of "Russia is helping Trump" you push the "Russia is trying to hurt Hillary" theme. It makes Russia the bad guy, Hillary the victim and takes the focus off Trump.
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There was no Russian meddling, only an attempt to hack voting machines.
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