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In the next year or so I wanna upgrade to a bigger, nicer truck! I need some opinions on what to look for, what to avoid, where to shop, etc.

I've only just started looking at the 97+ F250's. I prefer a regular cab short bed, but Im unsure if a RCSB was offered in a Diesel 4x4. If not, I'd look at a extended cab, short bed. But, at the very least it will have to be diesel, short bed and 4x4. Those are my only real stipulations.

I only mentioned the Ford, cuz I like them the most. Now, if a Dodge or a Chevy is offered in what I'm looking for I'd be interested in that as well. Obviously it will have to be financed so monthly payments are a concern as is insurance rates. If insurance is outrageous, then well this just became a wish/want instead of something that I might actually do.

So, post up some suggestions, tips and hints on what to look for when looking at a truck, etc.
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Every one of the major makers has a rcsb diesel brian... Now you really to figure out exactly what you wanna do with it man... Other fine tuning things and i can probably hunt down something for you broseph...
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I havent been able to find an RCSB diesel. But, I'm not the best at lookin' either. I'd be perfectly fine w/crew cab shortbox (6ft bed)

I just need it to haul Barney back and forth to different events. Probably only as far as Topeka. Not to mention it would be used as a winter DD

My buddy has a newer body style 2500 Ram w/the cummins.

If I were to look into a used Dodge, what should I be weary of? Same for Ford and Chevy/GMC... that was the point of this thread.

Budget would probabyl be about $20k (financed of course - $2000 down maybe more)
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I havent been able to find an RCSB diesel. But, I'm not the best at lookin' either. I'd be perfectly fine w/crew cab shortbox (6ft bed)

I just need it to haul Barney back and forth to different events. Probably only as far as Topeka. Not to mention it would be used as a winter DD

My buddy has a newer body style 2500 Ram w/the cummins.

If I were to look into a used Dodge, what should I be weary of? Same for Ford and Chevy/GMC... that was the point of this thread.

Budget would probably be about $20k (financed of course - $2000 down maybe more)
First real questions, do you have a garage? Any way of plugging the truck in during the winter months? Auto or Manual? Chipped or stock?

With that being asked I know people that drive 97 to 11 Dodge, Chevy, and ford diesels. The only problem I hear from the dodge cummins is the OD goes out aft 500k miles and will have to be replaced because the whole cluster goes out after 650k miles.

The Chevy's have some drive train issues except for the solid Allison Transmission that tranny is a tank for hauling and DD, I haven't heard any bad things about the transmission at all. Now the other drive line components tend to go out frequently under loaded conditions. I don't know about DD though.

Now Ford they are all right except for the 5.9L and the 6.0L diesel motors those are the worse motors I think, I personally havent seen anything wrong with the ones I see but I have been told many horror stories but I wont tell them cause i don't believe any of them cause they cant ever come up with any proof. all i see is they normally put the old 6.7L Cummins in there and match it up with an Allison transmission.

Just my 2 cents

Hope this will help you decide but remember its your discussion and yours only we can only offer our opinions on this.
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Ill have a way to plug it in over winter. As far as chipped or stock it'll more than likely stay stock.

I think the most ill pull w/it is a trailer and my car so not even 7k. Maybe a diesel is overkill?

I'd love a cummins that's for sure. I like that a 1ton dodge has solid axle up front too. Just not sure on price and maintenance.
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If you want a ford stay away form the 6.0s.. Buy a pre 03 with a 7.3 or newer with a 6.4.
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Going diesel is never overkill cause you'll get a ton better fuel milage pulling 7k lbs vs pulling it with a gas motor with the same weight. Plus if you ever decide to go green you can start running biodiesel with just a few mods.
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Going diesel is never overkill cause you'll get a ton better fuel milage pulling 7k lbs vs pulling it with a gas motor with the same weight. Plus if you ever decide to go green you can start running biodiesel with just a few mods.
Except for when shit breaks. then you wallet will be screaming overkill.


If you plan on pulling enough to justify the added up front cost, the added fuel(per unit) cost, and the added maintenance/labor cost, then diesel is the only way to go.

If you want one , and can afford it, go for it.

If cost is a major concern, an you will not be pulling a lot, then I don't see how the cost can be justified.

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Except for when shit breaks. then you wallet will be screaming overkill.


If you plan on pulling enough to justify the added up front cost, the added fuel(per unit) cost, and the added maintenance/labor cost, then diesel is the only way to go.

If you want one , and can afford it, go for it.

If cost is a major concern, an you will not be pulling a lot, then I don't see how the cost can be justified.

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Ill have a way to plug it in over winter. As far as chipped or stock it'll more than likely stay stock.

I think the most ill pull w/it is a trailer and my car so not even 7k. Maybe a diesel is overkill?

I'd love a cummins that's for sure. I like that a 1ton dodge has solid axle up front too. Just not sure on price and maintenance.
3/4 ton has a solid axle up front too. I absolutely love my 04 Ram 2500 with the 5.9L Cummins. I was a little apprehensive at first to jump into a diesel but I got it for about half of what it was worth.
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Cummins!! Don't have to worry about glow plugs therefore a lot more likely to start without needing to be plugged in during the colder months. The straight 6 is a whole hell of a lot easier to work on as well. The only downside to the dodge is the auto trans however if you maintain it as required you will greatly reduce probability for problems.
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Cummins!! Don't have to worry about glow plugs therefore a lot more likely to start without needing to be plugged in during the colder months. The straight 6 is a whole hell of a lot easier to work on as well. The only downside to the dodge is the auto trans however if you maintain it as required you will greatly reduce probability for problems.
I think a gas truck with decent gearing would be better for me. I wont be doing a lot of pulling and its just a lil civic and trailer. Nothing enclosed or anything like that.
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Diesel has a better resale value too. I can sell my diesel Excursion for as much as I bought it 2 years ago. Mileage does not hurt diesels like it does gas.
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my buddy recently replaced the head gasket on a 6.0 powerstroke at his shop and had to take the whole cab off...id go chevy, that allison tranny is a beast. also you should chip it, or get a programmer for it so you can switch between economy and towing. just my $0.2
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duramax for the win but there also the most expensive of the three but seem to last the longest im a diesel tech and drive a duramax....ford keeps us in business if that tells you anything we work on them non stop the 6.0s ford makes are junk to many problems, cummins is a good truck to but have alot of trans problem with any chip or extra hp added but the 5.9 motors are one of the best ever made IMO
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i agree with cummins. my dad had one and parked it after 380k. It got 20 to the gal.
mine gets 24 easy and ive never plugged it in the 2 winters ive had it. plus you dont have to drop a lot of coin on a programmer. just tweek the pump... unless its a 24 valve or newer.
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I have heard that the Allison trans doesn't quite stand up to extra power very much. For a stock truck its bulletproof, but once the power gets turned up that is when they fail. Any truth to that? My buddy has had a Duramax for a while now and he loves it. Big exhaust, intake, and programmer.
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As much as I am a Ford guy, I'd definitely agree to stay far far away from the 6.0, which is not technically a Ford built motor, and is the reason the Ford - Navistar/International relationship ended.

However, the Duramax (Especially the earlier ones) are pure junk. Injector problems, head gaskets / cracked heads, etc .

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As much as I am a Ford guy, I'd definitely agree to stay far far away from the 6.0, which is not technically a Ford built motor, and is the reason the Ford - Navistar/International relationship ended.

However, the Duramax (Especially the earlier ones) are pure junk. Injector problems, head gaskets / cracked heads, overheating while towing etc . Also, the Allison transmission is a joke. As soon as you start modding the truck, might as well plan for a new trans.

I would rather walk than drive a duramin (or a stock 6.0 PSD for that matter.)
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