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The new one from the article above said it took hints from it
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Chrysler's 5-Year Business Plan: The Product Breakdown

Chrysler LLC has concluded its 7-hour-long marathon presentation of the business plan (read our Live Blog of the event here) that will see it through the next five years, and what we're left with is a little confusing. It's almost as if the automaker's new executives, amidst apologizing for the company's past and promising to do better in the future, were hoping we'd all fall asleep or get lost in the details. Well, we didn't fall asleep or get lost, and below you'll find a breakdown of what we learned while spending the day hip deep in Chrysler's future product. You can also check out the slides from Chrysler's presentation relating to product in the gallery below.


Models On Their Way Out

* Jeep Patriot (end of 2012)
* Jeep Compass (end of 2012)
* Jeep Commander (end of 2010, may continue being sold internationally)
* Chrysler PT Cruiser (end of 2010)
* Dodge Dakota (mid 2011)
* Dodge Caliber (mid 2012)
* Dodge Viper (mid 2011, may return in 2012)


New Models That Are Coming

* Jeep compact SUV (2013, supplied by Fiat, may be Panda)
* Jeep small CUV (2013, supplied by Fiat, replaces Patriot and Compass)
* Jeep Liberty (2013, replaced by Fiat product but retains name)
* Chrysler small car (2013, supplied by Fiat)
* Chrysler compact sedan (2012, supplied by Fiat, replaces PT Cruiser)
* Chrysler Sebring (2013, replaced by Fiat product but retains name)
* Chrysler midsize CUV (2013, supplied by Fiat)
* Ram midsize unibody pickup (under consideration for 2011)
* Ram large and small commercial van (2012, supplied by Fiat)
* Dodge small car (2013, supplied by Fiat)
* Dodge compact sedan (2012, supplied by Fiat)
* Dodge Avenger (major update 2010, replaced by Fiat product 2013)
* Dodge full-size CUV (2010)
* Fiat 500 (late 2010, convertible 2011, Abarth 2012)


Models Staying, Receiving Attention

* Jeep Wrangler Diesel (2010/2011, not confirmed for U.S. market... yet)
* Jeep Grand Cherokee (all-new 2010)
* Chrysler 300C (all-new 2010)
* Chrysler Town & Country (major update 2010, next-gen 2014)
* Ram 1500/2500/3500 (major update 2012)
* Dodge Journey (major update 2010)
* Dodge Nitro (major update 2011 under consideration)
* Dodge Challenger (refresh 2011)
* Dodge Charger (all-new 2010)
* Dodge Grand Caravan (major update 2010, next-gen 2014)
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Chrysler and Dodge cars to be sold as Lancia and Fiat models in Europe



At its 5-year business plan yesterday, Chrysler repeatedly said that Jeep will be the only brand exported on global scale and it wasn’t lying. While the Chrysler badge will disappear from cars sold in Europe by 2011, most Chrysler and Dodge branded vehicles will be re-badged and sold as Lancia or Fiat mold to streamline capital expenditure and distribution costs.

“In North America, Lancia models will complement the Chrysler brand and in Europe the opposite will happen,” said Olivier Francois, CEO of the Chrysler and Lancia brands.

Some of the plans include selling the Chrysler Voyager as a Lancia to replace the Phedra minivan, reports Automotive News. Other plans include to rebadge the next-generation Chrysler 300C as a successor to the Lancia Thesis sedan and selling the Chrysler Sebring sedan and a new mid-size crossover as a Lancia.

Fiat may get a version of the Dodge Journey to replace its Ulysee minivan and the Fiat Croma hatchback will be replaced by a Dodge-based mid-sized sedan. The Dodge Nitro will replace Fiat’s Sedici.
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Chrysler/Fiat to have 3 brands at dealers by 2011, will share two-thirds of suppliers by 2014

Chrysler Group LLC plans to finish the consolidation of its dealerships into three-brand stores by the end of 2011. Speaking at the company’s 5-year business plan conference today, the automaker’s vice president of network development and fleet Peter Grady said that Chrysler is looking to dramatically increase the number of vehicles it sells at each store so dealers can be more profitable and financially healthy.

Separately, Fiat and Chrysler will share more than two-thirds of their suppliers by 2014, reports Automotive News. Chrysler’s purchasing chief Daniel Knott said that Chrysler is looking to cut purchasing costs and expects $2.9 billion in cumulative savings from 2010 to 2014. It hopes to save $500 million next year, he said.

Knott said that Chrysler will improve its relationships with suppliers.

“Chrysler purchasing will be accountable,” Knott said. “We will be firm, and we will be fair.”


Jeep will move over to Fiat platforms in 2013, “I live. I ride. I am. Jeep”



Speaking today at Chrysler’s 5-year business plan conference, Jeep brand CEO Mike Manley said that the SUV brand will use Fiat-supplied platforms starting 2013. He said that Jeep will also eliminate the Patriot and Compass after 2012 and replace them with one C-segment vehicle based on a platform from Fiat.

Jeep is also planning a B-segment small SUV for 2013. The Liberty crossover will also move to a Fiat platform, reports Automotive News.

Manley said that the Jeep Wrangler will also receive “major modifications” in 2011.

It was reported earlier that Jeep will be the only global Chrysler Group LLC brand. Jeep is aiming for global sales to reach 800,000 by 2014. That compares to 497,000 sold in 2008.

A new slogan will also be attached to Jeep “I live. I ride. I am. Jeep.”


Chrysler/Fiat: Expect fewer V8s and more 4-cylinder and diesels by 2014

We’ve been providing you live updates on Chrysler’s 5-year business plan press conference all day. However, some of the things being discussed this morning are more significant and deserve their own post.

Chrysler and Fiat said today that V8 engines will account for only 11 percent of the mix by 2014 – down from 18 percent in 2010.

The Auburn Hills automaker said that it anticipates 4-cylinder engines to make up 38 percent of its vehicle mix in 2014, up from 19 percent in 2010. Diesels will also join the mix and will make up 14 percent of the vehicle lineup by 2014, up from 9 percent today.
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Among the news from today's New New Chrysler briefing was this slide of the 2012 Dodge Charger. The design is so good it apparently made Ralph Giles weep with joy. Look familiar? There's a reason...

This image reveals a sloping belt line and strong curve building from the front to the shoulders, reminiscent of the 1999 Dodge RT Charger Concept (below) it seems to borrow heavily from. We're also told the new Charger initially had rear door handles in the roof line rather than the door panel — giving it a two-door look — but this was eventually dropped. Any other details stick out?


I always thought this was a concept too sexy not 2 be a production car. Can't wait to see the final result
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That Charger concept was supposed to run on compressed natural gas.
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Chrysler Brand Being Phased Out Overseas

Wednesday marked the big unveiling of Chrysler's five-year recovery plan and while there has been a lot speculation about the company's new strategy, we can now reveal that CEO Sergio Marchionne is planning to phase out most Chrysler brands outside North America.

The sole exception? Jeep, which will instead receive a boost to its international marketing budget, especially in emerging markets like Brazil. Chrysler vehicles will appear on distant shores, but only as part of the shared technology underpinning other brands like Lancia and Alfa Romeo.

Company bosses have revealed that Chrysler will disappear completely from European car markets in 2011, while Dodge will have a very niche role.

Some of the cars will remain, however. For example, the Chrysler 300 and Voyager will remain but be rebadged as Lancias, replacing the Lancia Thesis and Phaedra, respectively.

Lancia will also sell a version of the next-generation Sebring saloon, effectively replacing the Lybra, which went off sale in 2006. Lancia will also get a version of Chrysler’s upcoming medium-size crossover.

Additionally, Dodge models will be rebadged as Fiats, with the Journey crossover set to replace the Ulysse.
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That concept is ugly as sin
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I dont want to see the Viper turned into a rebadged Ferrari or Maserati.

I dont want Dodge to be nothing more than rebadged Fiats. Look for Fiat to kill the Challenger/Charger in the future.

Chrysler as a Cadillac competitor?

Well in the past Chrysler's were the cars you bought if you couldnt afford a Cadillac or Lincoln.

And now they want to rebadge Fiats as Jeeps. Blasphemy.

I guess time will tell.
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I dont want to see the Viper turned into a rebadged Ferrari or Maserati.

I dont want Dodge to be nothing more than rebadged Fiats. Look for Fiat to kill the Challenger/Charger in the future.

Chrysler as a Cadillac competitor?

Well in the past Chrysler's were the cars you bought if you couldnt afford a Cadillac or Lincoln.

And now they want to rebadge Fiats as Jeeps. Blasphemy.

I guess time will tell.

It all makes sense really Chrysler has been mis managed and sucks ass in the market they want to try to be in, Fiat seems to be the savior.
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Fiat as a savior.

A car company that is financially strapped and builds crappy cars. Taking over another financially strapped car company that builds crappy cars also. Albeit not as crappy as your own.

Yeah makes sense to me.

Not dissing you by the way.
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A car company that is financially strapped and builds crappy cars. Taking over another financially strapped car company that builds crappy cars also. Albeit not as crappy as your own.

Yeah makes sense to me.

Not dissing you by the way.
Fiat (as a whole ) is more than just one brand, granted not all the brands are on the same level, this will be a good thing for Chrysler in the long run, it isn't like it will be an over night thing) Fiat has the technology that Chrysler doesn't and the money to back it up (fwiw they have $$ or obviously wouldn't own some of the car companies that they do ) Chrysler needs to get into a niche all their own, if that means cutting them out of certain markets, and building onto a Fiat platform etc.. then so be it) Fiat has planned a return to the US Market since their departure and this is going to be it)
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French Abarth importer creates special edition Cinquecento



The Fiat 500 Abarth is a pretty sweet little retro rocket all on its own, but the Italian automaker's performance division hasn't stopped churning out a seemingly endless stream of special editions, from the Opening Edition to the 695 Tributo Ferrari. We can now add to that list the 500 Abarth SpeedGrey by Neubauer.

Unlike the Competizione edition made specially for the Dutch market, the SpeedGrey is actually an undertaking of Neubauer, the official Abarth distributor for France. Starting with the up-rated EsseEsse spec, the Neubauer edition gets a special Monza exhaust system for an extra five horses (boosting output up to 165), a pair of Sabelt bucket seats, tinted windows, Blue&Me navigation system and special Maserati gray paint job. Looks pretty sweet, but Neubauer will only be making 10 examples exclusively for the French market, so we'll just have to bide our time until the stock hot hatch arrives Stateside.
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Chrysler will learn how to make cars in the Italian style

2010 Chrysler 300CFiat S.p.A. doesn’t have the reputation of producing quality cars in Europe and yet, its engineers are coaching their Chrysler Group counterparts on producing high-quality cars quicker and more cheaply. At last week’s presentation of Chrysler’s five-year plan, Doug Betts, Chrysler’s senior vice president for quality, said that the company was aware of these issues.


Betts said Chrysler has adopted Fiat’s assembly line audit system and durability testing methods. But Fiat’s way may not be all that much of an improvement. In Europe, Fiat’s quality has been improving but is still well below average. In J.D. Power and Associates’ 2008 Customer Satisfaction Index studies for France, Germany and the United Kingdom, Fiat scored in the bottom quarter of more than 20 brands in vehicle quality and reliability. Nonetheless, one change from Fiat that no one will argue with is an order to keep manufacturing equipment clean.

Scott Garberding, interim head of manufacturing, said it’s far easier to spot problems on clean, uncluttered equipment and work areas. Betts, who joined Chrysler in 2007 from Nissan North America Inc., said Chrysler has adopted Fiat’s quality audit standards, which require better fit and finish. In fact, outside auditors are being brought in to assembly lines to take up to 320 measurements.


Chrysler’s new wing logo gets patent approval

Chrysler and Fiat CEO, Sergio Marchionne, revealed the company’s 5-year product plan. Marchionne describes the moment as being the “first day of a new Chrysler.”

Among the massive changes, there will be a new logo to work alongside product refreshes in changing brand associations in the minds of consumers. The logo that has been in use since the mid-90s was streamlined, moving the ‘Chrysler’ lettering from above the wings to at their heart within a new blue block central to the design.


Chrysler has reported sales plunges across its brands. However, in 2011, it expects to break even, following the repayment of some $9 billion in government bailout money and a rise in revenue from $42.5bn in 2010 to $67.5bn in 2014. What these targets mean is that the company will be required to double global sales from 1.3 to 2.8 million vehicles. The brand change is significant and it reflects an ongoing restructuring that begins with a new 5-year product plan. Marchionne said that improvements were seen even before the development of new products.

He asserted that the break-even was achieved in September and the last few months have seen more money roll in than out. With this, Marchionne remained confident the cash won’t deplete as new models are developed off Fiat technology. By 2010, it’s anticipated that “emergency” facelifts will renew 75% of the line-up while the remainder will be refreshed by 2012. This strategy will align with a range of new platforms from both Chrysler and Fiat arms. The Fiat 500 will place Chrysler into a new B segment market, while two further platforms set to be received from Fiat will allow new C and D segment offerings. New Chrysler platforms will underpin models in SUV, Minivan and CUV segments
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Jeep’s small SUVs will use Fiat-supplied platforms starting in 2013

According to Crysler’s five year plan, the upcoming Jeep small SUVs will be using Fiat-supplied platforms starting in 2013. Jeep brand CEO Mike Manley said that the legendary American brand will drop the Patriot and Compass crossovers after 2012 and will be replacing them with a single C-segment vehicle whose platform will originate with Fiat Group.

Also, the Liberty crossover will have a Fiat platform starting in 2013. The Jeep Wrangler will also receive a major modification says, but in 2011. Chrysler Group is planning to sell over 800,000 Jeeps by 2014… a big target if we consider the 497,000 units sold in 2008.
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Chrysler Group vehicles will receive Fiat dual-clutch transmissions

Chrysler Group’s powertrain lineup in the next five years would be anything but stagnant. From one dominated by larger-displacement engines, it will soon be filled with Fiat-derived four-cylinder engines, V6s and, eventually, electric vehicles. Chrysler also said that it will soon add Fiat-designed dual-clutch transmissions in its North American products. Continued after the jump!


Paolo Ferrero, Chrysler’s powertrain chief, confirmed that the new Pentastar V6 engine will be launched on the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee in the second quarter next year. The Pentastar will replace all Chrysler’s V6 engines, from 2.7 liters to 4.0 liters in displacement.

At the end of 2010, it’s expected that the first dual-clutch transmission will appear on a new D-segment vehicle. That would also be the approximate time frame that Chrysler will launch stop-start technology on the Jeep Wrangler diesel, an existing vehicle in Europe.

The Chrysler-Fiat companies will divide into centers of powertrain expertise. While Fiat will produce small gasoline engines and diesels, Chrysler will be responsible for V6s and V8s.

Fiat diesels will come into the North American lineup but the date remains unclear. Gradually, Chrysler’s current engines will give way to a new mix dominated by four-cylinder engines and the new V6.
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New Details On U.S.-Bound Alfa Romeo 169

The Alfa Romeo 166 was a premium executive sedan built by the Italian automaker between 1998 and 2007 and was roughly about the same size as a BMW 5-Series, one of its main rivals.
A replacement for the Alfa Romeo flagship is currently in the works and is due in late 2011. Donning the 169 title, the new sedan will pick up the sultry corporate styling seen on the new Mito hatchback and upcoming Milano and will be aimed directly at the BMW 5-Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and even the Cadillac CTS.
With the latest generation, one of the biggest criticisms of the previous 166 will finally be addressed--a lack of a rear-wheel drive platform. This is where Fiat’s new partnership with Chrysler comes into play.
The new 169 is expected to borrow the rear-wheel drive platform destined for the 2011 Chrysler 300, ensuring a more dynamic and premium-feeling driving experience. Expect the 169 to feature its own engines and suspension settings to give it a unique flavor, however. One possibility is that the 450 horsepower 4.7-liter V-8 from the 8C Competizione supercar could be reserved for a high-performance GTA model that could go up against the M5 and E63 AMG.
This ties in with reports that Fiat will build two new sedans off the next-generation Chrysler 300 platform at a former Bertone plant in Italy--the second model being another premium sedan to replace the Lancia Thesis.
The story doesn’t end there as there are reports that production of the 169 could even start up in North America to keep the price of local versions down. It’s expected to start around the $40,000 mark in the U.S., and should target a position roughly equivalent to the Cadillac CTS and BMW 5-Series in terms of features and output.
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any fiat engine/transmission can't be worse then most the shit chrysler has shat out and slapped in its cares.

The jeep inline 6 was the only saving grace they have had in a long time, I hope they keep that motor.

As for the 2.7 and 3.5 fuuuuuu throw them in the trash and fire the people who made that shit, the FWD tranny they mated with them is also trash.


Seeing how we haven't seen a fiat engine / trans in like 30 years, I welcome it, I want to see how it does, I know it can't be worse then the current shit they have.
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Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche dishes out advice for Chrysler



It's said that certain cultures don't handle the concept of irony well. You know, irony – where the intended answer is the opposite of the actual answer. Case in point: Back when cab forward cars were all the rage and the once mighty Plymouth brand was put out to pasture, Chrysler looked as if it had a fighting chance at remaining solidly within the Big 3. The Dodge Ram was a gauntlet thrown, the V10 Viper had sports car fans atwitter and the Dodge Intrepid really was a smart, good looking car.

Chrysler, meet Daimler, your new "equal." And by equal we mean Daimler gets the all the profits and you get cast off, last-generation Mercedes platforms on which to underpin your new cars. In the case of the 300C/Charger/Magnum, this particular strategy worked, for a couple of years at least. In the case of the Crossfire, not even a little bit. And then under Daimler's watch – and specifically under the eyes of Dieter Zetsche, a.k.a. Dr. Z – Chrysler was piledriven through the mat. Have you driven a Dodge Journey lately?

Here's the irony – Dr. Z is handing out unsolicited advice to Fiat's Sergio Marchionne vis-a-vis Chrysler – and we just can't help but laugh. Zetsche claims, "I continue to be emotional about this company and am crossing my fingers for the very best future." And while we're 51% sure he's being sincere, where was that emotion when he green lit the Jeep Compass? Or the Chrysler Sebring? Or the Dodge Caliber? All cars that led directly to the bankruptcy of Chrysler. We could go on, but you get the idea. Our advice to Sergio? Do the opposite of whatever Zetsche is telling you.
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Unread 2009-11-15, 04:41 PM   #50
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Chrysler was doing good until Daimler took them over. Thats when they started to go down. The introduction of the 300/Charger/Magnum only slowed the downfall.

Chrysler's engines arent bad. Save for the 2.7 when it was first produced. The 3.5 is a solid motor and of course the Hemi. It's their transmissions and cooling systems that dont hold up.
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