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I thought I saw something the other day about a dohc lsx engine
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I thought I saw something the other day about a dohc lsx engine
They should just be recycling junkyard 5.3's for the new vette IMO.

Toss an eBay turbo on it and it'll make 800 hp all day and never ever have an issue. Nobody has ever blown up an eBay turbo 5.3 so it would be a sensible option for them, especially with powertrain warranties.
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Somebody took a Billy Mild post seriously. Lolz
They have talked to Mercury Marine again about their DOHC conversion for the LSx. Could be interesting.

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The LT5 wasn't based on a boat motor to be begin with, it was a lotus design that GM helped with and MerCruiser handbuilt and machined them.
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They should just be recycling junkyard 5.3's for the new vette IMO.
I would LOVE to see a mid-engine "Vette" with a high revving, smaller displacement NA 5.2-5.7 pushrod V8 with DI, variable lift/cam timing, etc. and all the latest wizardy pushing out ~500hp/400tq with a lofty 7500rpm redline and the meat of the power between 4000-7500rpms.
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F DI.
It was cool just throwing a tune on my Cobalt and making an ass ton more power due to the DI giving it the fuel capability.

However, once you run out of fuel it's $$$, and the valve coking issues that come with DI, especially with GM that can't seem to figure out a PCV system worth a damn ever.
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It was cool just throwing a tune on my Cobalt and making an ass ton more power due to the DI giving it the fuel capability.

However, once you run out of fuel it's $$$, and the valve coking issues that come with DI, especially with GM that can't seem to figure out a PCV system worth a damn ever.
Water/meth or e85 seems to keep the carbon buildup down, still not a big fan of DI yet.
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It was cool just throwing a tune on my Cobalt and making an ass ton more power due to the DI giving it the fuel capability.

However, once you run out of fuel it's $$$, and the valve coking issues that come with DI, especially with GM that can't seem to figure out a PCV system worth a damn ever.
That's why your 5.3 suggestion is perfect. 9 second ford farimonts all over the country running that set-up, hassle free.
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However, once you run out of fuel it's $$$, and the valve coking issues that come with DI, especially with GM that can't seem to figure out a PCV system worth a damn ever.
Perhaps a set of secondary fuel injectors upstream in the intake manifold could solve the issue, much like the system used on the BRZ/FRS.
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Perhaps a set of secondary fuel injectors upstream in the intake manifold could solve the issue, much like the system used on the BRZ/FRS.
It could, and has been done both factory and aftermarket.

Yet, most manufacturers aren't doing it.
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Give me a powerkey, and 16 injectors on that stock engine with a few small snails. You have a recipe for a exotic killer.
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Mid-engine Chevy Corvette C8 'Emperor' arrives in 2019




Another day, another rumbling about the mid-engine Chevy Corvette. Today's comes from the Detroit News, which reports the C8 will arrive in 2019 with the long-awaited mid-mounted engine. The News, citing unnamed sources familiar with Chevy's plans, said the front-engine C7 will linger until 2021.

The story says the C8 is codenamed "Emperor." It's expected to be shown to the public in 2018.

General Motors wouldn't comment to the News, and a spokesperson did not immediately respond to Autoblog's request for comment.

The newspaper quotes a former GM employee who says, "It's happening. Mark Reuss [General Motors product chief] wants it. It's the worst-kept secret in town."

No kidding. We've seen spy shots, car magazines have done all sorts of renderings, and breathe the phrase "mid-engine Corvette" if you want chief engineer Tadge Juechter to clam up immediately. Every time GM trademarks anything from Zora to E-Ray, enthusiasts wonder how it relates to a Corvette feature or model. Some even think the C8 will spawn a Cadillac.

The News also quotes former GM product czar Bob Lutz, who says the mid-engine Corvette was approved but then shelved before the company's bankruptcy in 2009. Interestingly, he also suggests the next-gen Vette could have some sort of electric component that could give the car up to 15 miles of range.

Going to a mid-engine layout would be a dramatic departure from the Corvette's more than 60-year history, but it would allow GM to compete with a different range of supercars, including the Ford GT and European exotics
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I am still skeptical about this happening.
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I wonder if it won't be considered a "Corvette" but rather a new Halo car to compete with the Ford GT?

They may be using the Corvette to disguise it and it may be built on a modified Corvette chassis.
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I wonder if it won't be considered a "Corvette" but rather a new Halo car to compete with the Ford GT?

They may be using the Corvette to disguise it and it may be built on a modified Corvette chassis.
That would be a great idea, except the zr1 already handles the new GT.
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That would be a great idea, except the zr1 already handles the new GT.
Maybe on a strip, doubt it could hold it off on a track though.
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Maybe on a strip, doubt it could hold it off on a track though.
Not even sure about the strip... We really don't know what the new GT can do.
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True, just going off rumored specs.
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It looks like all the rumors are about to prove true: a prototype for what appears to be a mid-engine Chevrolet Corvette has been spotted once again near a General Motors Company [NYSE:GM] facility in the United States.
The latest shots follow ones from 2015 that depicted a mysterious test mule whose body was composed from several vehicles, including a Holden Commodore Ute for the front and rear sections and a C7 Corvette for the mid-section.
The shots also come just months after it was reported that the next-generation Corvette, the C8, would be bowing in mid-engine form at the 2018 Detroit auto show.
A 2018 debut for the C8, which would likely see it arrive as a 2019 model, will give the C7 a relatively short lifespan (it arrived as a 2014 model). The reason for the quick changeover is because GM actually started working on a mid-engine design for the C7. Unfortunately those plans ended up being scrapped in the tumult of the automaker’s 2009 bankruptcy.
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Looking at the new shots, we see can see that the C8 will be similar in size to the C7 but with a lower, wider stance. It won't get vertical-lifting doors of many exotics though it looks like there will be a short front overhang. Flanking the engine bay looks to be a pair of chunky buttresses and we’re told designers will add a sheet of glass in the center to show off the car’s engine. One of the biggest challenges is heat management.
Our spies say the prototypes have been running almost exclusively at night to avoid long-distance lenses with 50 megapixels to throw around. It's also been protected from almost all employees at GM, closed to all but a small circle of designers and engineers—as was the case with Ford Motor Company’s [NYSE:F] GT supercar.
The new Corvette won’t be a pricey limited edition supercar like the GT, though. We hear the basis for the car’s mid-engine platform will be the C7’s aluminum spaceframe structure rather than a completely all-new design. We also hear there will be a new LT5 engine and plug-in hybrid option on offer in range-topping variants.
By now you’re probably wondering why GM would rock the boat with such a dramatic change to the Corvette formula. Apparently the front engine, rear-wheel-drive layout is reaching its limits. Also, the Alpha-based Camaro is already snapping at the heels of its big brother. Thus, to help separate future Corvettes from the Camaro, a more exotic design was required.
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There’s also a bit of mid-engine Corvette history. Corvette father Zora Arkus-Duntov was a huge fan of the layout, especially for motorsports. He helped GM build a number of mid-engine concepts for testing purposes, the original being the first CERV (Chevrolet Engineering Research Vehicle) concept rolled out in 1960. Don’t be surprised if a Corvette ZR1 successor is named after him, since we know GM has a trademark for “Zora”.
Going mid-engine won’t be the only major change for the C8: another will be price. While the base C7 starts close to $60k, the new price of entry is said to be rising to approximately $80k. The higher price can be justified by the more exotic layout, plus it provides a nice buffer with the Camaro. The change will also help the C8 become a semi-exotic halo model for Chevrolet worldwide, similar to what the GT-R is for Nissan and the NSX is to Acura and Honda.
Production will take place at the Corvette’s home in Bowling Green, Kentucky. GM has spent over $700 million in upgrades to the plant in the past year in preparation for the new car, and possibly a Cadillac flagship sharing its platform.
Unfortunately, the news means the C7 will likely be the last Corvette with a front-mounted engine. To send it off with a bang, GM will introduce a model above the current Z06 at 2017's Detroit auto show. The car has already been spied and is thought to be reviving the ZR1 badge.

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The 1990 CERV-III Concept, which is what I hope this thing will look like, blade wheels and pop-up headlights and all.
It seems this long-awaited mid-engined Chevrolet Corvette really will be designed to run with high-end European exotics. And by that, I mean you’ll more than likely be shifting the gears with paddles, not three pedals and a stick.
Car and Driver, thus far the leader in rumors and reports about this car which is really happening for sure we promise you guys, says the upcoming car will use a Tremec seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. It can handle a ton of torque and promises lightning-fast gear changes, presumably much quicker than the ones offered even by General Motors’ eight-speed automatic.
Tremec engineering documents show a 9000-rpm maximum input speed and a 664-lb-ft torque capacity, both of which should cover C8 Corvette needs quite nicely. The TR-9007’s die-cast aluminum housing contains seven forward gears, three of which are overdrive ratios, and a 5.6:1 ratio spread. Tremec describes the twin engagement devices as “virtually dry wet clutches.”
But! They predict, probably correctly, that this supercar is being developed with no room for a traditional stick shift.
Our suspicion is that General Motors will not follow our suggestion to Save the Manuals due to the cost and complexity of offering two transmissions. In other words, Tremec’s TR-9007 seven-speed DCT will be the one and only transmission available when the 2019 Corvette arrives in less than two years.
A huge blow to manual enthusiasts everywhere! But not really. It’s not like any of this car’s intended mid-engined competitors use stick shifts anymore, and in this day and age when customer take rate, technology and lap times rule everything, the manual is hard to justify.
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Considering the average age of a Corvette buyer is 59+, this makes sense. Old people don't actually like driving. They just want to steer while ideling through neighborhoods and parade routes.
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Considering the average age of a Corvette buyer is 59+, this makes sense. Old people don't actually like driving. They just want to steer while ideling through neighborhoods and parade routes.
Or just the fact that the autos out now are simply brilliant.
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Or just the fact that the autos out now are simply brilliant.
Right. You can get a computer to do what ever you want for you. Audi even has a car that will drive around a race track for you and you just have to sit there. Brilliant, right? It all depends on if you want to go for a ride, or want to go for a drive. No if, ands, or buts, automating gear shifting is taking away part of driving away from the human no matter how well the car is driving for you.

And old people don't want to shift.
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