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The mid-engined Corvette is the automobile magazine's white whale; an elusive beast that always seems so close and yet, always, just of reach. This time Car and Driverthinks it's really going to happen. Here are the details.
The full preview of the vehicle, with research by Don Sherman and renders from the likes of Ken Okuyama and Camilo Pardo, is in the October issue of C/D, which you can find on newsstands now. As always, you can also see their ongoing coverage of the Corvette here. — Editor's Note.
GM’s head of global product development, Mark Reuss, confirms that the company is working on the next Corvette. Our sources elaborate on this salient piece of information, telling us that, after 61 years of evolution, the C8 will be revolutionary.
The new Corvette will be the mid-engined American Dream Machine that Chevy couldn’t, until now, muster the courage to build. In truth, the factory is still not prepared to detail what’s coming, which is why you’re looking at the 2017 model year through our freshly waxed crystal ball.
THE PLAN: The C8 flagship, the Zora ZR1, will debut the new mid-engine architecture. Launching as a 2017 model, it will define the top of the Corvette hierarchy just as its precursors did in 1990-1995 C4 generation and 2009-2013 C6 model years. As before, the ZR1 will be low volume, roughly 1500 units per annum, and high priced. We figure around $150,000.
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THE ENGINES: Small-block V-8s will remain the engine of choice—at least for the near future. And, beginning with the Zora ZR1, they’ll nestle just in front of the rear axle.
THE STRUCTURE: Today’s aluminum space frame will need a heavy massage to provide the C8 with strong, stiff bones. But it’s doable: The robotic frame fabrication GM tooled up for the C7 can be expanded and reprogrammed to serve the coming car.
THE BODY: Doors are the next logical candidate for conversion from sheet-molded fiberglass to lighter, stiffer, crash-resistant carbon-composite assemblies. Current Corvette supplier Plasan Carbon Composites manufactures carbon-fiber panels for both the Corvette and the Viper, and this firm has the ability to supply additional parts using its advanced press-press processes.
THE CHASSIS: Expect the current control-arm suspensions, composite leaf springs, adjustable magnetic dampers, and Brembo brakes to carry on with appropriate revisions.
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Me thinks they got their information wrong and it's going to be a front mid-engine, not rear mid-engine design. They've been talking about a "mid-engine" Vette for how many decades now? LOL
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No way the c7 ends by 2017, I would believe a zr1 c7 by 2017 tho
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Not gonna happen, imo. Always rumored, never actually done. I feel that GM cannot do this and keep the Corvette at a reasonable price tag. You can pick up a C7 for 60k OTD. I don't see this going for less than 80-90k. IF they did do it, perhaps there would be a side-by-side deal, with the C7 being the more classic 'Vette, and the C7.5 Zora being a one-off.
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Me thinks they got their information wrong and it's going to be a front mid-engine, not rear mid-engine design. They've been talking about a "mid-engine" Vette for how many decades now? LOL
Exactly. I'm reading the book "Heart of the Beast". Every generation they have talked about a mid engine vette, but yet its never made.

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No way the c7 ends by 2017, I would believe a zr1 c7 by 2017 tho
I heard they may go to a turbo V6 too....

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Car and Driver reveals spy shots of mid-engine 2017 Corvette





Some news in the car world is perennial, and some is perennially wrong. Typically news about some upcoming mid-engined Chevy Corvette has fallen into the latter category, with rumors never yet generating a road car.

This time could very well be different.

Car and Driver has some exclusive photographs of what would appear to be a Corvette test mule with a mid-mounted engine. The car in question might look like a Holden SSV ute that's undergone some indelicate modification, but C/D editor Don Sherman assures that the bones of a C8 'Vette live within that crude bodywork.

Sherman points to the closeness of the cabin to the front axle as clue number one of this car's mid-engine attitude, as well as the powertrain-sized space between the back of the seats and the rear axle. The roof and glasshouse are all clearly plucked from the current C7, and the gas tank filler positioned on the B-pillar is another huge clue.

The buff book estimates that the mule points to a timeline for sale, even. Testing on this level could mean a mid-engined C8 ready for sale in as few as 20 months, or for the 2017 model year.

Click over to Car and Driver to have a close look at this important set of spy photographs, as well as a rendering of what a finished C8 might ultimately look like
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C8 Chevrolet Corvette Exclusive! What to Expect from the Heart-Stopping, Mid-Engined Zora!

We have serious dirt on GM's secret mid-engined supercar.






From the October 2014 Issue of Car and Driver
GM’s head of global product development, Mark Reuss, confirms that the company is working on the next Corvette. Our sources elaborate on this salient piece of information, telling us that, after 61 years of evolution, the C8 will be revolutionary. The new Corvette will be the mid-engined American Dream Machine that Chevy couldn’t, until now, muster the courage to build. In truth, the factory is still not prepared to detail what’s coming, which is why you’re looking at the 2017 model year through our freshly waxed crystal ball.
Why mid-engine? Because the C7 Corvette, especially the Z06 edition, is tapped out. Adding more power to a front-engine design only accelerates the conversion of rubber into smoke at the rear. Moving the engine’s mass closer to the drive tires is the most effective means of improving Corvette acceleration and braking.
The second reason is less engineering-driven: Chevy wants to finally move the Corvette past the basic proportions and form language it has used since the C3. Today’s Stingray is a dream car for men on the wrong side of 50. But by updating the exterior with a radical remix of its visual masses, the Corvette could sweep the odd Aventador, LaFerrari, P1, and 918 posters off adolescents’ bedroom walls. As Chevy well knows, kids grow up quickly, and the fortunate ones convert their salaries to sports cars. Read on for how the C8 will take shape.



The Plan

The C8 flagship, the Zora ZR1, will debut the new mid-engine architecture. Launching as a 2017 model, it will define the top of the Corvette hierarchy just as its precursors did in the 1990–1995 C4 generation and 2009–2013 C6 model years. As before, the ZR1 will be low volume, roughly 1500 units per annum, and high priced. We figure around $150,000. It’ll be a stand-alone special that will peacefully coexist in Chevy showrooms with C7 models for a few years. The new platform, with appropriate bodywork and cockpit changes, could also support a revived Cadillac XLR (with *better sales success than the last one, we hope). By 2020, we expect the C7 to take its rightful place in the National Corvette/Sinkhole Museum and that all future models—yes, even the base Corvette—will shift to the mid-engine platform.
The Engines

Those who fear the demise of GM’s immortal small-block can relax because V-8s will surely propel the eighth-gen car. Using a single cam in the block plus pushrods offers weight, bulk, and cost incentives too valuable to squander. And the direct-injection, modular-displacement (cylinder shutdown), and variable-cam-timing technologies implemented for the C7 give this engine another lease on life. While it’s premature to quote displacement, power, and aspiration details, we expect the C8 to soundly beat today’s Stingray Z51’s acceleration (zero to 60 in 3.9 seconds), its 181-mph top speed, and its fuel-economy bogies.



Small-block V-8s will remain the engine of choice—at least for the near future. And, beginning with the Zora ZR1, they'll nestle just in front of the rear axle.
Alternative power sources are planned to keep the Corvette viable when regulations clamp down more aggressively on fuel consumption. Potent V-6s with and without boost are inevitable. Moving the engine behind the cockpit clears space for an electric motor to drive the front wheels; by 2020, a four-wheel-drive Corvette hybrid is a distinct possibility.
The Packaging

Porsche’s Boxster and Cayman are worthy case studies for the next Corvette because they’ve astutely answered knotty questions, such as “How do you construct a mid-engined roadster?” and “What about trunk space?”
Lacking million-dollar computer-drafting tools, we instead conducted our packaging study in 1/24 scale with help from Sam Haase, a crack model builder from Belleville, Michigan. The small-block V-8 he pirated from a Corvette kit didn’t quite fit the hole intended for the Boxster S’s 3.4-liter flat-six (full-scale measurements reveal that the V-8 is 3.5 inches longer, 2.3 inches taller, but 6.0 inches narrower than the Porsche flat-six). This necessitated a 4.0-inch scale wheelbase increase, yielding a C8/Porsche mock-up about the same length as today’s Corvette but with a 5.3-inch shorter wheelbase.



The radiator required to cool the Corvette’s larger engine would diminish the size of the Porsches’ five-cubic-foot front trunk—assuming said radiator is located in the nose. A viable alternative is to position all heat exchangers, including those for the engine, transaxle, and air conditioning, at the sides of the car between the door openings and the rear wheels, Ferrari Testarossa–style. A benefit of this arrangement would be shorter plumbing runs, but the C8’s aerodynamic engineers would have their work cut out coaxing enough airflow through such radiators.
A Corvette-sized muffler would fight for the space occupied by the Boxster’s five-cubic-foot rear trunk. This will surely disappoint golfers who drive their C7s to the links with more than one set of clubs in their 10-to-15-cubic-foot cargo holds. The new Zora ZR1 will be for those who enjoy long drives without using clubs.
Another packaging issue is the fuel-tank location. Porsche stuck with its historic ahead-of-the-cockpit spot for balance, but we imagine GM is more likely to tuck the C8’s gas tank in a center tunnel where it could share space with coolant plumbing.



Left: A seven-speed dual-clutch automatic likely will be the only available transaxle for the next Corvette.


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The Transaxles

This is the trickiest part of the C8 engineering equation, because the choices available and the execution costs related to transaxle design are daunting. Will a conventional manual transmission survive? Would a paddle-shifted dual-clutch automatic appeal to traditional Corvette enthusiasts? Can any torque-converter/planetary-gear automatic provide the rapid reflexes a modern sports car deserves?
READ MORE: A Mid-Engined C8 Corvette Is Coming: The 10 Cars that Paved the Way
Our snooping suggests that the Corvette engineering group will develop just one transaxle for the initial phase of the C8 program, and that a dual-clutch automatic will be its choice. Given the years it took GM to develop Hydra-Matic six- and eight-speed automatics, appointing an outside supplier to design and manufacture the Zora’s transaxle makes the most sense. There are at least six specialists up to that task. We’re betting that Oerlikon Graziano—a proven supplier to Aston Martin, Lamborghini, and McLaren—will supply the C8’s seven-speed dual-clutch transaxle. After the inevitable weeping over the demise of the manual, life in Bloomington will continue. Mourners will probably be in the minority anyway—65 percent of new Stingrays are delivered with automatics.



The C8s structure will build on GM's expertise in aluminum.
The Structure

Today’s aluminum space frame will need a heavy massage to provide the C8 with strong, stiff bones. But it’s doable: The robotic frame fabrication GM tooled up for the C7 can be expanded and reprogrammed to serve the coming car. Also, GM has recently developed advanced processes for magnesium casting and sheet forming that could be useful for the Corvette’s structure and help drop the C8’s curb weight below today’s 3450 pounds.
The Chassis

Expect the current control-arm suspensions, composite leaf springs, adjustable magnetic dampers, and Brembo brakes to carry on with appropriate revisions. Shifting weight rearward to improve acceleration and braking will necessitate new wheel and tire sizes. Expect Michelin to continue as the tire supplier.



The Cockpit

Since the engine no longer impedes the driver’s view ahead, a lower seating position is practical. A much shorter hood would also improve forward sightlines. This is the designer’s delicate balancing act, because rear visibility will be hampered by the new engine location.
We’d also love to see a larger touch screen in the center dash to take over additional secondary-control functions. This would be an ideal opportunity to switch from the common landscape *format to a portrait-mode (taller, narrower) screen, à la Tesla Model S. As long as round knobs for basic entertainment and HVAC functions remain, we’ll be happy. The absence of a traditional gear-stirring stick means that new space will be available for a smartphone dock, storage bins, and the requisite cup holders.
We’re hoping that the lessons learned from today’s GT and Competition Sport seats help the Corvette team home in on one improved bucket suitable for both soft- and hard-core users.
The Body

Doors are the next logical candidate for conversion from sheet-molded fiberglass to lighter, stiffer, crash-resistant carbon-composite assemblies. Current Corvette supplier Plasan Carbon Composites manufactures carbon-fiber panels for both the Corvette and the Viper, and this firm has the interest and ability to supply additional parts using its advanced pressure-press processes. Continued...
The Styling

Every candy bar needs an enticing wrapper, and every prom queen deserves a gorgeous gown. The Corvette is no different: It’s an automotive candy bar, a V-8–powered prom queen. To give the Zora shape and form, we held a design contest and invited three world-class automotive artists to draw their visions of the C8. To pick a winner, two dozen C/D staff members pored over the submissions. The bake-off got heated at times, but the win was decisive. Their renderings are below.


Ken Okuyama




This is the predictable outrageous proposal from the designer of the Ferrari Enzo.
Japan native Ken Okuyama’s portfolio includes the original Acura NSX and the Ferrari Enzo. He was Pininfarina’s creative director for two years and worked on the Chevy Camaro and C5 Corvette at GM. During a stint at Porsche, he helped sculpt the 996-generation 911 and the original Boxster.
Okuyama’s views of the next Corvette are, shall we say, uninhibited. He explains: “As C2 to C3 took a radical departure in styling, I thought it’s about time to do so for C8. For C3, designers Bill Mitchell and Larry Shinoda were inspired by stingray fish. This time, I was inspired by Le Mans prototype hybrid racers.
“The mid-engine model shown here takes a step upmarket,” Okuyama says, “to boost the Corvette’s image, plus GM’s as a whole, as the Enzo did for Ferrari.”
Advanced materials, such as polycarbonate and carbon fiber, are built into the design to allow more aerodynamic shapes for the cabin and fenders. A rear-mounted radiator draws cooling air from both internal and under-car flow.
“These special features will advance Corvette to the top of the super-sports category and ahead of any European competitor,” he says. We say Okuyama’s ZR1 is too extreme for series production and that it better suits a hypercar than a mere supercar. But we love the wildness of it.


Peter Stevens




Stevens aimed for recognizable Corvette forms in his mid-engine design proposal.
At Lotus, Peter Stevens designed the 1988 Esprit and the 1990 Elan. Moving to Jaguar Sport, he penned the XJR-15 roadgoing racer. But he’s best known for designing the ultimate automotive moonshot, the McLaren F1, which is still one of the most sought-after cars ever created.
Referring to America’s two-seat sweetheart, Stevens notes: “People don’t buy a Corvette after considering a Porsche, Ferrari, or McLaren. They buy one because they know this is what they want. They’re either replacing an older model or buying the car they’ve always wanted.
“To introduce these people to a mid-engined Corvette,” he continues, “means making sure they know what it is with visual familiarity. The designer has to respect the current design language for at least the first new iteration of the car.” After that, he says, things can take off in a more dramatic way.
“The Vette never took major design side trips,” Stevens says. “That’s why this proposal respects the existing design culture.”
Our Goldilocks panel thought this porridge was a bit too cold. But that’s not to say that it isn’t cool. Maybe we just couldn’t get past the taillamps.


Camilo Pardo




A fan of the C7's look, Pardo retained some of its language in his mid-engine design.
Camilo Pardo earned our cover and cash prize with a Corvette proposal that’s fresh yet familiar.
Growing up near Detroit and taking courses at the city’s Center for Creative Studies (now College for Creative Studies) nurtured Pardo’s passion for sports cars and modern art. Upon graduation in 1985, he joined Ford and had *studio assignments in Dearborn; Turin, Italy; and Cologne, Germany.
In 1999, Pardo was summoned home for a dream assignment: catapult Ford’s GT40 sports racer from the 1960s into the 21st century. The success of the resulting 2002 Ford GT concept earned him fame and the task of heading up the production model’s design while serving as Ford’s SVT studio chief.
Pardo owns a three-story building on Detroit’s Woodward *Avenue that serves as his residence, studio, and garage. When he isn’t fretting over future sports cars or competing in open-road races with his nicely patinated Ford GT, Pardo exercises his creativity with oil painting, furniture sculpting, and fashion design.
Designing Fords didn’t curb Pardo’s Chevy enthusiasm: “Mid-year [1963–1967] Corvettes are my favorites, especially the ’66 roadster. It’s a beautifully contained design, in essence a speed form with a pocket for the passengers.”
And he kept the car’s history in mind when looking to the future: “To build on Corvette’s legacy, I created a new mid-engine speed form that’s both kinetic and aggressively directional. The challenge was combining Corvette’s well-known DNA with exterior sculpture that’s fresh and contemporary.”
We loved Pardo’s ability to shift the car’s proportions while maintaining a decidedly Vette-like personality. This is a sketch that could make it all the way to the street and fully establish the mid-engined Corvette as a $150,000 Ferrari killer.
Meanwhile, in Warren, Michigan, and in other GM styling *studios around the globe, the real designers of the C8 are sweating the final details of this Corvette to be. However that car turns out, keep this issue handy to compare Pardo’s sketch with the finished product. We bet he’s gotten pretty close. View Photo Gallery
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No joke. The C7 JUST came out. GM will not be dumping that car any time soon, nor would they sell 2 different platforms of the same car along side each other. GM is neither brave enough or rich enough to tool up for a new Vette after 2 years. I'm sure they are designing the next car, but that is a process that will take the full length of this generation's run. Why is it that every experimental mule that gets slapped together for testing is such a big thing? There were LOTS of experimental Corvettes that never made it to production in the past....Heck, some of them even mid engined!
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Mid-engine Chevy Corvette captured in broad daylight

Our spies brought out the extra, extra, long lenses.


















Rumor has it the next-generation Chevrolet Corvette prototypes run mostly at night. But someone decided to hit the test track in broad daylight, and one of our spy photographers was on hand with their extra-long lenses to take advantage of that error. These photos show what appears to be a mid-engine Corvette test mule. Car and Driver claims that the Chevy's iconic sports car will switch to the new layout for the whole lineup, not just for a supercar halo model.

Admittedly, the images are extremely grainy – these shots were taken from around a mile away according to our spies. But thanks to a C7 running alongside this prototype we can see the new Vette looks a little wider than. There also seems to be body material where the rear window would be – most likely flying buttresses – but it's difficult to tell at this range. Beyond this analysis, we can't accurately comment on the C8's design because, well, the car in photo probably doesn't have production bodywork.

This leak also shows that Chevy has advanced so far beyond the mule stage. The next Corvette has moved from its Holden Ute-based mules to a very early pre-production spec. That development also comes with a severe increase in security at General Motors Warren Technical Center. Only high-level designers and execs have been allowed to float around the company's mid-engine design studio.

We're still looking for the 2019 Corvette to debut at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show. The current C7 debuted at the 2013 Detroit Auto Show. If our spies are correct, that means Chevy will replace the C7 after just five years. Only the second-generation model spent less time on sale.




































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A fresh leak has provided us with renewed hope that Chevrolet will finally make good on a mid-engined Corvette to take on the likes of Lamborghini and Ferrari.


The most recent leak wasn't from Chevrolet but rather General Motors racing partner Katech. Before GM brought its Corvette Racing team in-house, Katech built the engines for Chevy's Corvette race cars.

GM Inside News recently noticed something interesting on Katech's Web site; a section dedicated to the "C8 Corvette ZR1/Zora LT5." Katech has since removed the page from its Web site.

Although far from definitive, the C8 listed on Katech's Web site is another crumb of evidence that GM is indeed planning a super Corvette to take on the best from Europe. It's been rumored that Chevy will offer the mid-engined Corvette in both "base" ZR1 spec and high-performance Zora trim, which lines up perfectly with Katech's internet gaffe.

The LT5 part of the equation likely refers to the engine that will power the C8. GM used an LT5 V8 developed by Lotus and built by Mercury Marine in the C4 ZR-1. That mill used quad overhead cams, indicating the ZR1/Zora will ditch pushrods in favor of modern engine tech.

GM recently announced a $290 million investment into the Corvette's Bowling Green, Kentucky production facility, which could be the start of preparations for the C8. If the C8 ZR1/Zora is indeed slated for the 2018 model year, we should see it in the flesh sometime next year.






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A new LT5 with Mercury Marine's DOHC conversion on an LSx Block would just be insane. 800 HP N/A. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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Anxiously waiting...

Not sure I will want to see the price.
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Mid engine, dohc will be mid 6 figures
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Pocket change for Dave B.
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A lot of things have changed since he rocked his 93 Z28 around Manhattan
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Pocket change for Dave B.
He read on a forum already that this new Corvette isn't going to shift as well as the European competitors, so I doubt he's interested in one.
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I heard it's going to be a powerglide
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A lot of things have changed since he rocked his 93 Z28 around Manhattan
Lawrence, Boss. And yes, things have changed quite a bit since my young and dumb college days. I can't believe I was happy with owning that car LOL
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A new LT5 with Mercury Marine's DOHC conversion on an LSx Block would just be insane. 800 HP N/A. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
800hp? God I hope not. It's not necessary for a car like this. Naturally aspirated would be a huge plus.
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800hp? God I hope not. It's not necessary for a car like this. Naturally aspirated would be a huge plus.
It is if you don't want to limp away from the accident.
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Somebody took a Billy Mild post seriously. Lolz
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I wouldn't be surprised that if whatever is in the C8 is nearing 800 hp.
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