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Unread 2014-08-01, 10:00 PM   #1
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will be a mid-engine coupe - report

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Could be built in Ohio

According to a recent report, Honda has green-lighted an S2000 successor.
Details are limited but Motoring says the model will be a coupe with a mid-mounted engine. This would be a radical departure as the previous S2000 was a front-engine roadster.
Regardless, the website says the car will use a revised version of the turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine that powers the Civic Type-R. It will reportedly be backed up by an electric motor which will give the model a combined output of roughly 365 bhp (272 kW). The powertrain is slated to be connected to seven-speed dual-clutch transmission which sends power to the rear wheels.
If everything pans out, the S2000 successor will be built alongside the Acura / Honda NSX at the company's new Performance Manufacturing Center in Ohio.
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I can't wait. Hopefully it doesn't look like an acura.
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Oh Honda. I hope you do build this and keep it around 30k
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Oh Honda. I hope you do build this and keep it around 30k
I wouldn't hold your breath. 375hp in a mid engine car the weight of an s2k for $30k would be awesome.
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They should use the old legend motor with a set of turbos.
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$45-$60k is my guess. Mid engine+turbo+ electric motor = $$$$. IF it actually gets made.
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wasn't the original s2000 MSRP around 35-36k? I don't see this being less than 40k
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I'm hoping this goes through, defiantly will be on my want to buy list!
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Wonder if they can keep it under 3200 lbs...?
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Am I the only one who thinks a hybrid roadster with no man pedal, that's probably more money than a mustang gt, sounds unappealing?
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$45-$60k is my guess. Mid engine+turbo+ electric motor = $$$$. IF it actually gets made.
This. Id bet closer to 60k.
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Am I the only one who thinks a hybrid roadster with no man pedal, that's probably more money than a mustang gt, sounds unappealing?
I have a feeling the manual transmission won't be around for more than another decade. Very few companies are offering one these days and cars that were once only manual are popping up with an auto option.
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S2000 successor should be FR, small, high-revving 4 cyl. MAYBE hybrid, but I would much rather it be small and FI. Keep the MR platform for the NSX sucessor.
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They need to keep it under 3,000 lbs.
They need to keep it under $ 40k.
They need to offer more than 360hp.

Don't expect them to do all of the above...1 of them, maybe. 2 of them...very unlikely. All 3 of them, impossible.
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Why that complicated? Just make an FR-S that's turned up to 150% and they'll sell like crazy.
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I think the 365 hp will be plenty for the car. a cayman GTS has 340hp and has a base cost of 75k (base cayman has 275 hp for 52,600). If you want more power, then you should be looking at the NSX. Porsche is the same way, if you don't like the numbers on the cayman, look at the 911.
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They need to keep it under 3,000 lbs.
They need to keep it under $ 40k.
They need to offer more than 360hp.

Don't expect them to do all of the above...1 of them, maybe. 2 of them...very unlikely. All 3 of them, impossible.
IMO keep the HP in the mid 200s. 250-260 HP would be awesome if they kept the car under 3,000 lbs. Not every car ever has to have gobs of HP to be fun.
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IMO keep the HP in the mid 200s. 250-260 HP would be awesome if they kept the car under 3,000 lbs. Not every car ever has to have gobs of HP to be fun.
That's pretty much what the S2000 was. I doubt they would make the same thing. 240 hp, 2800-2900 lbs. I loved mine but I can see why it would be a tough sell at 36k. Don't think they sold too well their last couple of years so I doubt they would remake something exactly like that considering the poor sales.
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That's pretty much what the S2000 was. I doubt they would make the same thing. 240 hp, 2800-2900 lbs. I loved mine but I can see why it would be a tough sell at 36k. Don't think they sold too well their last couple of years so I doubt they would remake something exactly like that considering the poor sales.
Fair point. Maybe something close to the 3k mark would be sweet... or honestly a similar HP number, with a better tq curve would be really nice too. I just hate how everything has to be big numbers, nowadays. Some of the most fun I've had on 4 wheels has been around or under the 200 hp mark.
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Fair point. Maybe something close to the 3k mark would be sweet... or honestly a similar HP number, with a better tq curve would be really nice too. I just hate how everything has to be big numbers, nowadays. Some of the most fun I've had on 4 wheels has been around or under the 200 hp mark.
I think a small FI would be cool. Keep it the same power to weight to compete with higher hp cars.
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They should use a rwd version of the new CTR concept turbo engine, and keep it FR. They should do without the electrically driven front wheels, one thing that i don't like about the Toyota FT1 concept as well.
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So, the S2000 successor will be nothing at all like the S2000.

Yep, sounds about right for Honda these days.
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It'll probably have styling cues from Alien Vs Predator, a huge wing, and be $5K more than any relative competition. That seems to be the trend of any new car from the J-A-Pan.

Let's all hope none of the above winds up being true.
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You are not alone.

They are pricing sports cars out of the market. It seems everyone is building for the 60-120k range which seems like its getting saturated, sales will fall and manufacturers will stop building these cars, throw up their hands and claim no one wants a sports car anymore.

Of course when they build cheaper, simpler sports cars people constantly bitch about power, but a 14 second car isn't catastrophically slow, and can be plenty of fun.

Simple is better, which has been the success of the Miata, the S2000 was kind of a more powerful step up while keeping it simple, and that is what made the car great.
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You are not alone.

They are pricing sports cars out of the market. It seems everyone is building for the 60-120k range which seems like its getting saturated, sales will fall and manufacturers will stop building these cars, throw up their hands and claim no one wants a sports car anymore.

Of course when they build cheaper, simpler sports cars people constantly bitch about power, but a 14 second car isn't catastrophically slow, and can be plenty of fun.

Simple is better, which has been the success of the Miata, the S2000 was kind of a more powerful step up while keeping it simple, and that is what made the car great.
Nah, you gotta have a minimum of 300 hp to have any sort of fun brah.

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