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If the return spout of the fluval is agitating the surface of the water you can get away with removing the airstone. Air stones get oxygen into the tank by agitating the surface and causing gas exchange between the air and water. If you take the air stone out and your fish start all swimming at the very top of the tank with their mouths towards the surface then they are not getting enough oxygen.
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I don't have any fish right now, the outlet hose is about 1/4 in the tank on 3/4 power lever level.
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I don't have any fish right now, the outlet hose is about 1/4 in the tank on 3/4 power lever level.
House of rocks can be expensive. I bought some of that gravel you liked. The Eau Clair stuff. It's really good stuff. I would wash it out good before you put it in the tank.
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Now the fun begins, I got all of this for 27.00 at Merriam House of Rocks. I will be going back tomorrow for some more.
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I don't have any fish right now, the outlet hose is about 1/4 in the tank on 3/4 power lever level.
I don't even remember the last time I ran an air stone in a tank. If you're still using your Aquaclear filter you have nothing to worry about. If you aren't, just angle your outlet hose up a bit until the pressure is pushing around the top water a little bit. Like Shpongle said all you need is something to break the surface tension so that some oxygen is being mixed into the water, it doesn't take much.
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I love how it came together, I have my plants ordered should be here in a week. I ordered 2 dwarf hairgrass, 1 hygophila narrow leaf and a ruffle plant. I think the green hairgrass will look wicked on top of the blue sand. Hopefully I will be picking up some Convicts from pasty-t-bag this weekend. What else should I put in it? My wife wants a yellow fish.
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You'll have to be careful with the cons, especially if it's a breeding pair. They get really protective and aggressive. I had a pretty mean 10" Jack Dempsey that my pair of 4" con's kept pinned in the corner of my tank.

If you haven't yet I'd get some aquarium safe silicone and secure your rockscape together so that they don't get knocked off and potentially crush a fish or risk cracking the glass on your tank. Your con's will definitely take over one of the cave areas and use it to spawn. I always use a terracotta pot laid on it's side for my cons.

As far as yellow fish, you don't have many options. Most of the yellow cichlids are Africans which you shouldn't mix with South American cichlids. If you're getting con's you're going to have to stick with big aggressive fish because they're definitely not community fish. If you're just wanting something else in the tank I'd suggest something small, fast, and cheap like a school of zebra danios.

If you want some larger fish Green Terrors, Firemouths, Jack Dempseys and Salvini will work but you're going to have some aggression issues as these are all pretty nasty tempered fish. One way to keep the aggression down is to rearrange your tank pretty regularly so the fish have to establish new territories. If you've got spawning con's though that's going to be real tough.

There is going to be some trial and error invovled in this. All fish have their own personalities.
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I have a bunch of random tetras and such with my cons and they do fine :donno:
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Numbers help too. If they have 20 fish to chase around instead of taking all their aggression out on a single fish. That's how stocking a tank with African Cichlids works. Adding schools of small fish will also help shy or nervous fish.
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Numbers help too. If they have 20 fish to chase around instead of taking all their aggression out on a single fish. That's how stocking a tank with African Cichlids works. Adding schools of small fish will also help shy or nervous fish.
Good to know. I love the cichlids so plan on stocking my tank with them but I still have a bunch of the tetras and stuff I bought when I first got the tank.
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I think I'm going to just get 4 of the convicts, and hope they stick to the left side of the tank. They have some yellow tetras 10 should be a good offset. Should I introduce them all together to the new tank or the convicts first?
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I think I'm going to just get 4 of the convicts, and hope they stick to the left side of the tank. They have some yellow tetras 10 should be a good offset. Should I introduce them all together to the new tank or the convicts first?
it wont matter... even if they con's wanted to boss them around they couldnt they are to small now they are only about the size of a nickel or a quarter and idk about spoolin4doors con's but i know my cousin has them and dstock has them and i of course have them as well and they do just fine with my tetras and tiger barbs.. i never had one fish die from bullying...also my fish have only spawned twice in the two years ive had them
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I had problems with my con's tearing the fins off of smaller fish and killing them. All fish have different personalities so yours may do just fine.
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Tanks looks good man! Can't wait to see it when the grass fills in the bottom.
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Thank you! I've got a good 4-5 inches of gravel, substrate and sand now. Since I'm not doing CO2 injection, what type of fert sticks should I put in the tank? Amazon seems to have a lot of options.
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Sea chem flourish tabs have worked well for me. You can also buy liquid co2 that you add daily since your not going with a co2 system. Look for seachem flourish excel. There is also seachem flourish which is fertilizer so make sure to get the one that says excel.
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Depends on the type of plants you want. If you have plants that take up nutrients through the roots then root tabs work best. If you have something like ferns that take in nutrients through the stems then liquid works best.
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Thanks for the Ciclids Pasty T Bag, they are doing great. I picked up 10 penguin tetras at the olathe pet shop.
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Thanks for the Ciclids Pasty T Bag, they are doing great. I picked up 10 penguin tetras at the olathe pet shop.
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Penguin tetra's are some of my favorite tetras, good choice.
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they have been in the tank for 24 hours now. I was watching them this morning. They are taking turns going through the current from the filter. The tetra will swim across and wait for the cichlids. Then swim back and wait for the chiclids to cross. Back and forth back and forth. It's pretty funny.
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The tanks look good. I like planted freshwater.
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just don't get into reefkeeping/sps coral, if you do, your wallet will hate you.
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That's what keeps me away. Closest I've come is FOWLR tanks.
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Haha, that's a true statement. Its hard to look back once you start though. I finally got all my different species of clowns to get along and got my LPS coral to start flourishing.
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