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I originally had 3 different threads going. Now that all of the tanks are in the same room, I have had those threads merged. This thread is a timeline from my first introduction to the planted tank world, to current. I try and update on a weekly basis with photos and information about the tanks. As you will see, my main tank has gone through a pretty extensive change.

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55g-Mopani Mantle
29g- Xandar Ranch
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Please take a look, enjoy the photos and feel free to ask any questions. I believe in open source, sharing knowledge baby!

Below is the original start of the Mopani Mantle Thread.

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My deck lid and light bar are a bit out dated and starting to look cruddy. I do my best to keep them clean. My current is an old plastic black one. I want something more modern. The wife and I went up to a local pet store. The led kits he had were running about 229.00 for a double string fluval kit. It looks like a nice kit. Are there better/cheaper options out there?

I want a glass deck lid and led light bar. What products are you guys using? Amazon produced some generic and higher priced ones.

Night/day options and the ability to put on a timer are my main concerns.

50 gallon 4 ft tank btw

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I just bought an LED double bright from marineland. It's still just a plain white light though and I want the salt water look so I am thinking about either getting some actinic blue bulbs if they will fit my old hood with the led kit on or just go with a full reef package like this

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that was the one I was looking at. Any pictures of it on?
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Of the amazon reef light, no. Of the marine land double bright here it is



Here is the exact lighting look I am going for and he said he had 3 white bulbs and one actinic blue bulb.



I think I will get two actinic bulbs for my old existing hoods and just trash the old yellow bulbs and see if it will fit on the back of the tank.
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I'm a fresh water tank with basic fish and eventually live plants. I'm more so just wanting a cleaner look and get away from the crappy plastic top. Thanks for the photos.

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Not a flattering pic because the dust still hasn't settled, but finally got the bags of sand out of the way. And only 3 hours later

Same double bright LED's

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I am so jealous of you guys. Your tanks look so good...
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I have one of these over my planted tank. It has been working perfectly for almost two years so far. It's bright as hell and will work well for when you go planted. Great website to order stuff from to.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...3&pcatid=23753

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That's a nice planted tank. What is your carpet?
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That's a nice planted tank. What is your carpet?
Dwarf hairgrass

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I know I've asked this before. I'm finally ready to make a purchase. Olathe water is shit for a fish tank. I'm tired of treating thewater and bbattling it week to week. I know an r/o system will help and will save money vs buying from the store. My budget is 250. What should I get? 5 gallon changes weekly.

I'm going to check out merriam house of rocks on Saturday. They said they have a wide variety of aquarium rocks. What substrate are you guys running for the live plants? Is co2 a must?
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I don't have any knowledge on R/O Systems . For the planted substrate I would recommend Eco Complete or Active Flora

http://www.petco.com/product/111998/...Substrate.aspx

http://www.amazon.com/Floracor-Premi...=Activ+-+flora


Eco Complete is really popular and can be found at any chain pet store. You'll need enough to make a substrate layer of 3-4" thick. 3" in front sloping up to 4" in back. A lot of people like to mix in Laterite as well.

There are different types of plant roots and some like substrates that are more fine grained. So I did a layer of eco complete mixed with laterite under a layer of the Active flora black which is much more fine grained. The bigger plants will reach down through the fine sand to the eco complete while the grass roots will branch out through the sand like top layer. I still don't really understand it all LOL

As far as CO2 goes you have to figure out if you want to do a low tech or high tech tank. Basically that is all going to be based on what plants you want. Some plants require high output lights like the one I posted in order to grow. If you have high output lights then you will need CO2. If you do a low tech tech tank with plants that don't need really bright lights then you can do without the CO2

You can get the high output lights regardless of what plants you get. They will make anything grow even better. Just know that adding the lights means adding the CO2, and more cost.


Check out www.Plantedtank.net for lots of good info. They have a really helpful forum.

You can also get all your equipment and plants online here http://www.aquariumplants.com/ They even have a service to help build your tank for you so there is no guess work. You send them all the info on your setup and then they put a plant package together for you.

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The water level on the tank i got from you kept going down but it didnt seem to leak anywhere. I said fuck it and bough a bowl and a beta fish, put it in a shelf in my daughters room and gave up.

Glad the Dude at pet smart talked me into cheap fish firsr lol
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Should I look at upgrading my filter system? I'm rocking an aquaclear 50 currently.
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I use a Fluval cannister filter for 125 gallon in my 55 gallon
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R/O system will be here today. I'll keep updating this thread as I start the remodel process. It won't be anything fancy at the start. I will get some before pictures this weekend and a review of the R/O system.
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Canisters are really the way to go. Sumps are even better but they are a lot more work. Fluval makes really good canisters so does Rena. I'm using a pair of XP4's on my 75 gallon which is overkill. You can find an XP3's for around $120. The best part about canisters is you can layer and use whatever media in them you want. In my XP4 I run a filter pad, 2 trays of biomax, then the top tray has a fine and a superfine polishing pad in it.
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I don't have a lot of room between the wall and the tank. I'm doing this in stages with the wife. Still need a new light bar, glass tops. Getting the decor and substrate on my next saturday off.
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Canisters are pretty decent size, but you can hide them since they only thing going in the tank is an intake and output hose. Mine sits inside of my tank stand.

You should definitely upgrade to a larger filter though. I'd say get an AC110 at minimum. The general rule of thumb in fishkeeping is you want 10x turnover with your filter. So if you have 55 gallons you'll want a filter that runs 550 GPH.
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I'm looking at the 305, does the hose just run into the tank? How far into the tank do you put the intake and output? I found the 305 online for a pretty decent price. Any good websites for decent set ups? Like hose management, tank arrangements? Google images isn't very helpful.
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I'm looking at the 305, does the hose just run into the tank? How far into the tank do you put the intake and output? I found the 305 online for a pretty decent price. Any good websites for decent set ups? Like hose management, tank arrangements? Google images isn't very helpful.
The intake hose attaches to a tube much like the intake on an aqua clear filter and it attached to the glass with suction cups. I keep the bottom of the intake about 2 inches from the substrate. My output hose has 2 attachments, a spray bar and a jet. I use the spray bar and keep it a few inches below the water line
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Its really easy and a clean setup. My hoses run behind my tank and into my tank stand where the filter itself is.
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Won a 250.00 amazon gift card at work last night. Fish tank is getting done quicker now. Going to order the filter and lights. I think I'm going to go with these ones. What do you guys think?

http://www.amazon.com/260w-Aquarium-...hu-rd_add_1_dp

Also on the list are 2 new deck lids, the fluval 305, substrate

am I missing anything?

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that light says marine.... idk if it matters or if your wanting to go salt water.... also i have a few questions as well... i have a 125 gal tank and im wanting to do a huge plant tank.... so what CO2 system would i need? and how much would it cost?
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The light fixture above will have light bulbs in a spectrum geared towards corals and such for salt tanks. I don't think it will hurt a freshwater tank but it wont help it like it would with a salt tank

Pasty T-Bag: Your probably going to spend at least 200-250 for the equipment to run CO2 on a tank that big.

You can use this kit if you want to save some cash and be more hands on
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...fm?pcatid=9935

Or use this one to keep the perfect level of CO2 in your tank automatically.
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You can also make your own kit with a 2 liter bottle and some hoses etc. Put in some sugar, water, and yeast and when the yeast eat the sugar they give off co2
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