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Unread 2016-10-04, 06:22 PM   #126
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Hopefully Toyota will roll out a more up to date concept like they did w/ the FT twins
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I'm guessing the rendering is probably pretty close. It'll probably have some more sheet metal creases and lines, but I imagine it's pretty close.
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I always get a kick out of the american hp per dollar argument. This might have the first (correct me if I'm wrong) battery-less hybrid system and a cf tub. This is a 100k car.
It wasn't a comparison for me, it was just my opinion that I don't want a 100k Supra... because that means I'll likely never be in the market for one.
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It wasn't a comparison for me, it was just my opinion that I don't want a 100k Supra... because that means I'll likely never be in the market for one.
You could always look into an MKII w/ an ls6 swap.
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The bumper on that render is horrid. I'm glad that's not official.
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Here's the new Toyota Supra and its FT-1-inspired tail










































Thanks to new spy photos, we now have our best look yet at the eagerly awaited Toyota Supra successor. This time, we finally get a clear look at the shapes of the head- and taillights. The latter are clearly pulled right from the FT-1 concept, as they share the same slim wedge shape and sharp corners. They complement the FT-1-inspired greenhouse and ducktail spoiler quite nicely. However, the concept's dramatic diffuser and vents have disappeared, and the exhaust outlets have been moved to more conventional cut-outs in the base of the rear bumper.

At the front, the car's connection to the FT-1 is more tenuous. This is clearest in the headlights, which are simple, oval-shaped units. These lights are almost retro in shape, looking more like the rounded lights on the fourth-generation Supra than anything in Toyota's current lineup. Our photographer also noted that the full-width lower grille indicates further deviation from the concept, on which the nose bisected the lower grille. With this in mind, it's possible the pointy nose on this test mule and on the FT-1 may disappear in favor of a smooth front bumper.

The lack of camo also provides a reminder that this car will share more than just its platform with a new BMW, the replacement for the Z4, rumored to be called Z5. The side mirrors on this test car look to have been plucked from a Bavarian parts bin, and earlier spy shots show a lot of BMW switchgear inside. We'd love to see a turbocharged inline-six make it in as well, although the rumor is that the engine will be a Toyota turbo four. Until the car makes its debut, we can dream, right?
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Toyota Supra spied winter testing alongside the BMW Z5 convertible




























Every time a new batch of Toyota Supra spy photos appears in our email, the entire Autoblog staff grows slightly more giddy in anticipation. When Toyota sets its engineers free, the automaker is capable of producing some wonderfully capable and formidable machines. Toyota head Akio Toyoda's no-boring-cars creed, not to mention the fact that the automaker is partnering with BMW, gives us hope that, like the Subaru/Toyota BRZ/FR-S/86 mashup, the project may produce something more than the neutered and milquetoast Toyota products of late.

Just hours ago, we showed you new photos of the BMW Z5. The two cars share bones, but externally the two cars diverge quite a bit. Whereas the Z5 is a sleek and simple convertible, the new Supra is an aggressive and modern coupe. The doors appear similar and the wheels are obviously the same, but the fenders, hood, trunk lid, and bumpers are all far more aggressive on the Supra than the Z5. Expect some typically Japanese flair to offset the more conservative German styling. As always with camouflaged prototypes, details are difficult to distinguish, so we won't know how alike the pair are until we see final production models.

The car in these photos appears to be a slightly more polished version of a Supra we've previously spied. Aside from the snow and some testing equipment, the two cars appear identical. There are still a lot of unknowns with this car. Expect two turbos and six cylinders, but it's unclear if it will be a Toyota V6 or a BMW inline-six. Don't rule out hybrid or turbo-four-cylinder power either. No matter what rests under the hood, we're looking forward to it. The last Toyota-developed sports car we drove shows that, even after all this time, the automaker hasn't lost its edge.
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but it really doesn't. power/weight isn't the end all be all anymore in terms of performance. a c5 zog has a better ratio than an 09 gtr, and we all know who wins that drag race. the 5th gen Z28 and a C5 z06 are nearly identical lb/hp and there is absolutely no contest in terms of acceleration coming out of a corner.

we are in an era where our engineers have become so effective at hiding/using the extra weight that it just isn't as easy as looking at a curb weight and judging a car.

"people who think a car has be light weight to handle well are amateurs" -kazutoshi mizuno
This supports what I'm saying.

The C5Z is a pure driver's car, imo. Sure the GTR is an amazing car, but it's fat as fuck, and while the gizmos can hide that around a track (I've never driven one), I'd venture to say that the C5Z is a more enjoyable experience (although that is 100% subjective).
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This supports what I'm saying.

The C5Z is a pure driver's car, imo. Sure the GTR is an amazing car, but it's fat as fuck, and while the gizmos can hide that around a track (I've never driven one), I'd venture to say that the C5Z is a more enjoyable experience (although that is 100% subjective).
it really depends on how you define a drivers car. i wouldn't consider the c5(z, base, vert, whatever) to be a drivers car. it basically does nothing well i value in a drivers car. it is a good gt car, and with some mods can be an outright track monster.

i could write a novel about how people misunderstand how the gtr actually works, but i just don't care anymore. i will say it doesn't rely on electronics to manage its weight. it uses the weight to its advantage mechanically, it weighs nearly identical to an F1 car--not a fluke.

both are an absolute riot on a track, but what isn't?
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The Gazoo brand is expected to be extended to street-legal performance cars, with a focus on hybrid powertrains.
Toyota's resurrected Supra could be among the first cars to launch under a rumored performance sub-brand, potentially borrowing the Gazoo name from the automaker's racing subsidiary. Speaking to Autocar, Gazoo Racing head Koei Saga suggested Toyota is already planning to use Gazoo's racing-developed hybrid powertrain technology, though he did not reference the Supra by name.
Sage further claimed more hybrid Gazoo-badged models are on Toyota's roadmap of future products. The first is expected to be an upgraded Yaris hatchback with a turbocharged engine delivering more than 210 horsepower.
A separate executive recently voiced confidence that Toyota was capable of building a "major sports car brand," in the same spirit as BMW's M division or Mercedes' AMG unit. A proposed name was not mentioned, but Gazoo is viewed as the most natural fit as TRD has drifted toward a focus on off-road vehicles and pickups.


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At any rate, the mkv5 looks like a sure-fire letdown.
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2019 Toyota Supra stays true to the FT-1's promise

Renderings show the full potential for Toyota's sports car.



























The Toyota Supra is nearing its return for 2019, and new renderings show off the sports car's attractive styling. Enthusiast forum SupraMKV.com imagined the next-generation coupe sans the camouflage worn by tests mules in spy photographs. Freed from those black and white curlicues, the website illustrates the Supra's proportions and curves.

The forum's renderings highlight the parallels between the Supra and the FT-1 concept, which suggested in 2014 that Toyota was serious about reprising its iconic sports car. Up front, we see wide headlights, a pointed nose, and side strakes that frame the face of the car and likely aid aerodynamics. In back are taillights and aero that also echo the FT-1. While these features are not obvious in spy shots, SupraMKV.com suggests the final production model will look much like the concept car. We're inclined to agree.

The Supra is being developed with BMW as part of a sports-car partnership that will also spawn the Z4 successor, expected to be called the Z5. The Supra name was used from 1978 to 2002, and trademark filings indicate Toyota's next sports car will use it again, though the company has not confirmed that. The rear-wheel drive car will likely have some form of Toyota's hybrid technology to aid fuel economy and performance, similar to how we expect Ford to equip its upcoming hybrid Mustang.
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I really hope thats not it............
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pretty close to the concept...
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I hope they change the styling on the front a little. The back is amazing.
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Those are unofficial, fan-created renderings. So that is not it.
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Pukedick.

A jellybeaned z4.

Pass. MKIV value will maintain increasing steadily as this shit hits the market.
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Those are unofficial, fan-created renderings. So that is not it.
pretty much Toyota hasn't released anything official it's the FT twin fiasco all over

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Pukedick.

A jellybeaned z4.

Pass. MKIV value will maintain increasing steadily as this shit hits the market.
ask the legal Skyline owners what the GTR did to their value (iirc it tanked it)
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ask the legal Skyline owners what the GTR did to their value (iirc it tanked it)
I don't know if there was a direct correlation there. The GTR didn't take nearly the lumps this thing will, and skylines we're coming up on the 25 year import rule as well, so that was likely a major influence as well
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I don't know if there was a direct correlation there. The GTR didn't take nearly the lumps this thing will, and skylines we're coming up on the 25 year import rule as well, so that was likely a major influence as well
GTR was introduced in 2007 , when was the 25 year rule? I'm also curious if people will try to get MKIVs into the states now
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Allegedly, Toyota will bring the Supra concept to the show, along with the S-FR and Corolla GTI concepts, reports Car and Driver, which cites Japanese magazine Best Car.
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GTR was introduced in 2007 , when was the 25 year rule? I'm also curious if people will try to get MKIVs into the states now
I thought 1989 was the first skyline, but I could be wrong.

I've curioys about the MKIV imports as well.
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MKIV isn't eligible for legal importation yet (1992 model yrs just hit 25)
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I thought 1989 was the first skyline, but I could be wrong.

I've curioys about the MKIV imports as well.
1989 was the first year of the r32 generation of Skyline. They began making skylines back in the 60's, IIRC.
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1989 was the first year of the r32 generation of Skyline. They began making skylines back in the 60's, IIRC.
Right. I ASSumed he was referring g to the r32.
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