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Toyota says sportscar co-developed with BMW will sit above the GT86

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Supra is back?

Toyota Europe vice-president and product planning chief Karl Schlicht has disclosed preliminary details about the company's upcoming sportscar.
It was January 2013 when Toyota and BMW officially joined forces to co-develop a sportscar and since then many unconfirmed rumors emerged about both versions. Now, we finally have something official from Toyota as their vice-president and product planning for Europe told Autocar in Geneva the model in question will be positioned above the GT 86.
One could speculate that Toyota will bring back the iconic Supra moniker since it wouldn't make much sense to use Celica taking into account the previous model had roughly the same size as the GT 86 which Schlicht said will carry on "with its own mission."
Toyota has already provided a sneak preview of the new sportscar through the breathtaking FT-1 concept and apparently the production version will benefit from BMW's knowhow in carbon fiber. We don't know for sure what will power the new "Supra", but reports have suggested an AWD plug-in hybrid setup with a BMW-sourced 4-cylinder 2.0-liter engine and electric motors getting their energy from supercapacitors.
If all goes according to plan, Toyota's version will be out in 2017 and will apparently cost more than a Corvette which in the United States kicks off at $55,000 for the 2015MY Coupe.
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Toyota Supra could eschew a hybrid powertrain

Toyota FT-1 Concept

New details are starting to emerge about the highly-anticipated Toyota Supra.
According to Car & Driver, the Supra will arrive in approximately two years and feature a BMW-sourced turbocharged six-cylinder engine. While previous reports have suggested the car could be offered with multiple engines, the magazine begs to differ.
Speaking of engines, C&D says there's "no indication" that either the Supra or the BMW Z4 successor will actually be offered with a hybrid powertrain. However, the German variant will should have an assortment of four- and six-cylinder engines.
If everything pans out, the Supra will go on sale as a 2018 model and feature styling inspired by the FT-1 concept.
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Toyota trademarks S-FR name; could be used for Supra successor

Toyota FT-1 concept with graphite paint

Supra replacement coming 2017

Toyota has registered the "S-FR" nameplate with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
Set to be used for "automobiles and structural parts thereof", chances are the "S-FR" moniker will be seen on Toyota's long-awaited Supra replacement scheduled to come out sometime in 2017 as a 2018MY. The moniker could create some confusion taking into account Scion already sells the FR-S and perhaps it would be a good idea to just stick to the Supra name since it has such an important historical significance.
The latest gossip indicates the model co-developed with BMW won't have a hybrid setup after all as Toyota will likely install a six-cylinder turbocharged gasoline engine sourced from its Bavarian partner while the styling is going to be influenced by the FT-1 concept.
Toyota has already confirmed the new sports car will be positioned above the GT86 and it is believed the model will cost more than a Corvette which begins at $55,000 in United States.
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Toyota trademarks S-FR name; could be used for Supra successor

Toyota FT-1 concept with graphite paint

Supra replacement coming 2017

Toyota has registered the "S-FR" nameplate with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
Set to be used for "automobiles and structural parts thereof", chances are the "S-FR" moniker will be seen on Toyota's long-awaited Supra replacement scheduled to come out sometime in 2017 as a 2018MY. The moniker could create some confusion taking into account Scion already sells the FR-S and perhaps it would be a good idea to just stick to the Supra name since it has such an important historical significance.
The latest gossip indicates the model co-developed with BMW won't have a hybrid setup after all as Toyota will likely install a six-cylinder turbocharged gasoline engine sourced from its Bavarian partner while the styling is going to be influenced by the FT-1 concept.
Toyota has already confirmed the new sports car will be positioned above the GT86 and it is believed the model will cost more than a Corvette which begins at $55,000 in United States.
Please make more than 600hp and cost less than $ 100,000. It is a beautiful car.
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I can already see the BMW tuners BMS/Vishnu/COBB waiting to get one
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BMW-Toyota sports-car venture progressing 'according to plan'


BMW and Toyota have reportedly made further agreements on specific details of their shared sports-car platform, allowing development to move forward.

Efforts to design the midsize model with common components is "progressing according to plan," BMW said in a statement to Bloomberg. The companies have not yet publicly outlined a launch window for their respective cars, however.

The co-developed platform is expected to underpin BMW's next-generation Z-series roadster, while Toyota is said to be considering a new model, potentially reviving the Supra nameplate, that will slot above the GT86 ( Scion FR-S).

Executive comments suggest the architecture will be flexible, allowing both automakers to create vehicles that will not necessarily be segment rivals. BMW's Z4 successor would presumably be shorter than a resurrected Supra.

Unconfirmed reports point to a hybrid all-wheel-drive system for both models, pairing electric motors with a turbocharged six-cylinder engine for a combined output of more than 400 horsepower.

Rumors point to 2018 as the earliest arrival timing for either of the sports cars. The companies are also working on a common fuel-cell powertrain, however their respective hydrogen-powered vehicles are not expected until 2020 or later.






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New details about a new Supra (or its successor), the product of a joint venture between Toyota and BMW, are emerging, according to a report from Motoring. The report, of course, cites “insiders” and “sources” at Toyota, and it all sounds pretty flimsy, but as I’ve said before, it sure is fun to speculate.
The key negative take away from the Motoring report is that Toyota engineers are frustrated with their lack of access because the development prototype is in Germany and under lock and key by BMW, despite the fact that the two automakers announced they would be sharing responsibilities for the vehicle equally. That doesn’t sound very partnership-y to me.
The key positive takeaway seems to be that unlike Toyota’s venture with Subaru which produced the 86 and the BRZ, the shared platform between the two vehicles won’t be readily apparent to consumers: the two cars will have entirely different bodies. One will look like a BMW and the other will look like a Toyota, and apparently never shall the twain meet. Or something like that.
We still don’t have any idea what the final product will look like on the Toyota side, of course, but the FT-1 is still the closest we’re likely to get for a while, so here’s a video to refresh your memories.
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Next generation Toyota Supra render / Theophilus Chin

New Supra co-developed with BMW

"Automotive manipulator" Theophilus Chin is back with two renders showing his vision of the next generation Toyota Supra and Nissan 370Z.
He used the Toyota FT-1 concept as foundation for elaborating the new Supra which we all know it's being co-developed with BMW and recently we heard it will have roughly the same size as the Porsche 911. It will feature an aluminum spaceframe chassis wrapped around in carbon fiber reinforced plastic panels so it should be very light and nimble.
In terms of engines, reports are indicating the availability of an inline-six 3.0-liter pushing more than 335 bhp (250 kW) along with a plug-in hybrid version rated at 473 bhp (353 kW). It should be mentioned that Toyota might not use the Supra moniker as recently they registered the S-FR nameplate which could be used for the much anticipated sports car due in 2017.
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Toyota still mulling green-light for BMW joint sports car




Toyota has cast doubt on production plans for the new sports car it is currently co-developing with BMW.

The companies have been collaborating on a new platform that could underpin new models from both brands, however Toyota now cautions that it has made no final decision on whether to move forward with the project beyond a design study.

"The whole study before that, on what kind of platform, on what kind of architecture, that's been progressing quite well," a spokesperson told Reuters. "We haven't yet decided to give the green light to the project, but it's coming up."

A broad range of rumors have focused on what each company might build upon the jointly-developed platform. BMW is widely believed to be working on a next-generation Z4, which could borrow design cues from the 3.0 CSL Hommage R concept. Toyota, meanwhile, could stretch the wheelbase for a revived Supra, or offer an entirely new model to slot above the GT86 ( Scion FR-S) and take styling inspiration from the FT-1 concepts (pictured) that appeared last year.

The platform is rumored to be powered by a turbocharged six-cylinder engine with a hybrid all-wheel-drive system, delivering a combined output of over 400 horsepower. Such a proposition likely won't come cheap, and unconfirmed reports suggest the production cars would likely cost at least $60,000 and potentially approach the six-figure threshold.

Both companies may be discouraged from investing too much on the roadster and small sports car segments, both of which have continued to slowly contract in recent years. Sales of the current Z4 are down by more than nine percent for the year, while FR-S deliveries have declined by approximately 24 percent during the same period.

The Japanese and German automakers still plan to partner on several different technologies, including composite materials and hydrogen fuel cells, even if the sports-car plans fall through.





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Toyota confirms Supra revival concept for 2016 reveal


Toyota confirms Supra revival concept for 2016 reveal

Toyota Supra fans will be happy to hear the man responsible with the company’s sports cars has announced a concept will be introduced next year.
The S-FR concept currently on display in Tokyo is Toyota’s preview of an upcoming entry-level sports car, but work is already well underway at the other end of the spectrum where the long-awaited Supra revival is planned for a release in the years to come. Last year’s FT-1 concept pictured here served as a first glimpse for a modern Supra and will receive a follow-up in 2016, according to Tetsuya Tada, the boss of Toyota’s sports car division.
He didn’t say exactly when the new concept will be revealed, but our money is on NAIAS in January since the FT-1 made its debut at the same show in Detroit. Tada revealed the concept will employ new technologies and hinted it will have a sequential gearbox and an engine that won’t try to win the horsepower war since the car will be more about having fun than sheer power. That being said, Tada mentioned the engine will outperform many German rivals and the car will be better than a Porsche 911.
Described as being the GT86’s “big brother”, the new Supra is being developed with BMW and is expected have just about the same size as a 911. Engine options remain unconfirmed at this point, but the new range-topping sports car from Toyota will allegedly get an inline-six 3.0-liter turbo with at least 335 bhp (250 kW) and 331 lb-ft (450 Nm) along with a beefier plug-in hybrid version generating a combined output of 473 bhp (353 kW).
Hopefully we will find out more about the new Supra once the previewing concept will be introduced next year, with the production version to follow in 2017.
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Better than the 911, huh? That's quite the benchmark.
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Mystery BMW-Toyota Supra To Be Built By Austrian Shadow Car Company: Report




Pictured: The Toyota FT-1 concept everyone expects will be the next Supra. Please. Please. Photo Credit: Toyota.
Yes, that mysterious BMW-Toyota sports car joint production is still happening. Now we know who might be building it.
One of the most interesting car companies in the world is one that isn’t: Magna-Steyr, the Austrian super contractor known for building everything from ultra-tough offroaders to the Aston Martin Rapide. Now they may be gearing up to make the next Toyota Supra, if that’s indeed what they call this thing.

To recap: Since 2012 BMW and Toyota have been said to be jointly developing some kind of new sports car, or rather a sports car platform. All other details, from pricing to powertrain to size, remain shrouded in secrecy.

As for its possible builder, Magna-Steyr, they aren’t a car brand but they are a company that makes cars. Located in Graz, Austria, they design and build cars, trucks, ultracompacts, and sports cars for other companies too busy to make small runs of high-quality, low-volume vehicles. Check out Magna-Steyr’s list of credits and you’ll see what I mean.
Local paper the Kleine Zeitung reports that Magna-Steyr will be ending their production run of BMW’s ugly Mini Paceman and Countryman. In their stead, according to the Kleine Zeitung, will be BMW’s next sports car.
And that’s supposed to be the partner project with Toyota to make a new Supra, as Automotive News Europe dutifully reports. That’s even though demand for roadsters and sports cars is dwindling as SUVs take over the universe.
Demand for two-seaters is largely dormant, which prompted BMW to ax the Mini Coupe and Roadster, along with the Paceman. Z4 sales fell 47 percent in the first quarter and the model accounts for just three-tenths of 1 percent of BMW brand’s volume.
When asked then by Automotive News Europe whether it was still financially worth competing in the roadster segment, BMW CEO Harald Krueger said the company’s cooperation with Toyota would help. “BMW has a long roadster tradition,” he said. “We will occupy the segment once more. It’s not big, but it’s important for the strength of the brand.”
The Kleine Zeitung expects production for the BMW Z4 successor to start in 2018, with the Toyota Supra partner car to get going a few months later, not so drastically different from what Mazda and Fiat did with the new Miata and 124 Spider, or what Toyota and Subaru did with the GT86/FR-S/BRZ.
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Always loved the concept. Really curious to see what production looks like...
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A recent trademark filing from Europe indicates that Toyota is moving forward with plans for a new flagship sports car.


It's no secret that Toyota is jointly developing a new halo sports car with BMW, but there has been plenty of speculation as to what the company with call the new coupe. Toyota previewed a sports coupe design with the FT-1 concept, but it was widely believed that the car could dawn the Supra nameplate in production form.

Toyota's plan to revive one of its most storied nameplates became a little clearer in early 2014 when the company renewed its trademark for the Supra name with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. However, as automakers routinely renew trademarks for vehicles not currently in production, a definitive conclusion could not be made.

But thanks to a European Union Intellectual Property Office document discovered by fan site SupraMKV, we may have the best evidence yet that the jointly-developed sports car will be called Supra; Toyota recently registered the Supra name for "Vehicles; apparatus for locomotion by land, air or water" with the EUIPO.

Not much is known about the upcoming Toyota Supra, but it will likely take aim at vehicles like the Porsche 911 and Mercedes AMG GT. Keeping true to its roots, the Supra will be powered by an inline-six engine, albeit sourced from BMW. However, the Supra could make use of a Toyota hybrid system that would give the sports car at least 500 horsepower.

Look for the new-age Toyota Supra to launch sometime in 2019.


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There Won't Be an M Version of the BMW-Toyota Sports Car

The M division will have nothing to do with BMW-Toyota's upcoming sports car, and that's okay.











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My recent chat with the leader of BMW's M2 project revealed that while the cooperation between Toyota and BMW will indeed result in new vehicles and shared hybrid-electric technology, BMW's upcoming sports car, which will likely debut as a roadster, won't get the M treatment.
Meanwhile, what follows that from Toyota's side can easily be a size bigger thanks to the scalable architecture, and since they already secured the Supra name in Europe, the FT-1 concept remains our best guess at what to expect. If we can trust endless rumors surrounding this project, a coupe like that concept, with a BMW inline-six and some hybrid boost, is what Toyota has in mind for us in 2018.




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When it comes to BMW, the situation is simple. Nobody is buying the current Z4, but while the premium compact roadster segment is tiny, BMW is not going to abandon it—if there's space for all of their GT cars in this world, there should be room for something as traditional as a lightweight BMW drop-top.
Interestingly, while the second-generation Z4 is only 5.8 inches longer than the first one, it definitely feels like a bigger and more complicated car, with its folding hardtop and the added weight that comes with such luxuries. Considering the hype surrounding the Mazda Miata (and its slightly more comfortable Italian sibling, the Fiat 124 Spider), BMW might want to take a good look at the smaller Z4, the E85 from 2002.




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If a hardcore M version is out of the question from the start, a lighter and cheaper successor might just be the ticket.
Either way it goes, according to the local papers, Austria's Magna-Steyr (most famous for producing the Mercedes G Wagen since 1979) is already gearing up to produce both the German and the Japanese version of this ghost we've been chasing since 2012. They should be worth the wait.




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New Toyota Supra To Pair Electric Motors With A BMW Engine




It seems that our long wait for a Supra successor might be nearing the end as reports starting to emerge again, giving us more details about Toyota’s upcoming sports car.

Based on a platform commonly developed with BMW, the new Supra will share many components with the Z4 successor but the Japanese sports car will be physically bigger than its Bavarian sibling as it will use an extended version of the said platform.

This will allow Toyota to comfortably position the new Supra above the GT86 while the totally separate from BMW design direction will lead to two completely different visually models eventually.

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The system will also feature regenerative braking which will store energy in a lithium-ion battery pack while the new Supra will be Toyota’s first model to come with a brand new double-clutch gearbox to better match the sporting credentials of the car.

There is also the possibility of both BMW and Toyota to offer at some point plug-in versions of their new models. The final production car is expected to tip the scales at less than 1.400kg thanks to BMW’s weight-saving methods and Toyota’s in-house designed electric motors. With that said, the BMW is expected to be even lighter, thanks to its smaller size.

The two new sports cars will debut within a few months of each other with the earliest prediction set at 2017.

Note: Toyota FT-1 Concept pictured
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New Toyota Supra may get a twin-turbo Lexus V6

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We've heard endless rumors that a successor to the much loved and much missed Toyota Supra is in the works. Toyota hasn't done much to deny these conversations. On the contrary, the FT-1 concept from two years ago and the partnership with BMW have only fueled the fire. Now, talk of a new Lexus engine has led to speculation about the supposed Supra's powertrain.

To be clear, this is mostly heresay. Few things have actually been confirmed, but based on what we know a few conclusions can be drawn. We know that BMW and Toyota are working on a joint product. We've seen mules testing out in the wild. In BMW guise, the possibly Austrian-built car will more than likely powered by turbocharged inline four and six-cylinder engines. Unless Toyota wants to use Bimmer power, they'll need to shoehorn one of their own under the hood.

That leads us to this rumor of a twin-turbocharged V6 that will presumably power the new Lexus GS and LS. Japanese automotive publication Mag-X first reported on this engine. It was then picked up by YouWheel and Car Keys. Mag-X cites Toyota insiders and even gives an engine code, 943F. This engine allegedly will make more than 400 horsepower and more than 300 lb-ft of torque.

While unconfirmed, this makes sense for Lexus. Nearly every luxury competitor has a six-cylinder engine with forced induction. While Toyota has previously had turbocharged inline-sixes, they've never produced a factory turbo V6. Every automaker is downsizing engines in an effort to meet fuel economy and emissions regulations. Toyota and Lexus will follow suit. Taking that V6 and tuning it for a performance application is a solid, if unverified, possibility.
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Toyota's chief engineer wants the Supra name back

One high-ranking Toyota official thinks the BMW-codeveloped car needs a classic name.



There's no guarantee that Toyota's forthcoming sports car will revive the Supra name. For all we know, it could be some senseless alphanumeric. But there's at least one powerful voice among Toyota's developers pushing for a new Supra – Global Chief Designer Tetsuya Tada.

Tada-san, a died-in-the-wool sportscar enthusiast known as the father of the Toyota 86, is fighting for the iconic nameplate. He told Australia's CarAdvice, "I love the Supra and I love the Supra name. It's historically important to Toyota. We're pushing for the name Supra for the new car we are developing with BMW."

This is a good thing. There are too many brands willing to throw away prestigious vehicle names in favor of trendy but less endearing alphanumerics. We hope Toyota follows Tada-san's advice and brings the Supra name back.

Besides sending enthusiasts around the globe into a fit of chop licking by merely mentioning the Supra name, Tada-san also gave a few insights about how work on the car, which Toyota is developing alongside BMW, is going.

"I'd say the partnership is going well, very smooth," Tada-san told CarAdvice. But despite the cooperation between the two very different brands, the resulting vehicles should be unique, which is something Toyota's engineering boss supports. CarAdvice sees this as further support for rumors that Toyota's variant of the jointly developed car will lean more towards performance, potentially with a twin-turbocharged Lexus V6. The BMW version, supposedly called the Z5, will hew more towards a grand tourer's roll, succeeding the current Z4 and combatting the new Audi TT and Mercedes-Benz SLC.
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Yes! The Toyota Supra is spied

It's what we hoped for.































It looks exactly like the Toyota Supra. That's our initial impression after Toyota's long-awaited successor to its iconic sports car was spied this week. It has a long hood, doors with concave panels, and what appear to be fake headlights. The sides and back fenders channel the look of the FT-1 concept revealed in 2014 at the Detroit auto show. Put simply, it's the Supra straight out of central casting.

Toyota is working with BMW to develop the new sports car, which will spawn a Z5 for the German carmaker. You can see BMW stalks in the cabin in these photos. The project was first announced in 2012. The Supra name was used from 1978 to 2002, and rumors have swirled for years that Toyota will bring it back for its next sports car. Trademark filings and comments from engineers have only added to the clamor. As excited as enthusiasts are, Toyota has not confirmed the Supra name. Yet.

So what exactly will the next Supra be? Based on a rear-wheel-drive chassis, the car will be Toyota's signature sports car. Expect it to arrive for the 2019 model year, which is inline with the Z5's arrival. The powertrain lineup will likely include four- and six-cylinder engines, and perhaps employ some electrification (likely from Toyota's side of the development). Lexus is rumored to be supplying a twin-turbo V6 for the car.

The partnership is a sign of the times. Even giants like Toyota and BMW are finding it's better to work together on low-volume models like the Supra and Z5, which independently they would struggle to fund and muster the needed resources. Fiat and Mazda used a similar approach and worked together on the MX-5 Miata and the 124 Spider.

The test driver in these photos is waving as he navigates the Supra away from the auto paparazzi. We've waited along time for the Supra. Hopefully we'll see him soon.
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Here's The First Video Of The Next Toyota Supra In Action





The upcoming, much awaited Toyota Supra was captured for the first time on video entering and leaving the BMW M Test Center at the Nürburgring, and it sounds absolutely delightful.


The low-slung coupe is a joint project between BMW and Toyota, and is expected to go on sale in either 2018 or 2019. The Supra will share its platform with the upcoming BMW Z5, and is expected to have about 400 hp.


Our tipsters at SupraMKV.com believe this sounds like the expected top-of-the-line performance hybrid V6 engine. Other powertrain options they expect to go on sale include a turbo four-cylinder and a twin-turbo six-cylinder.

Looks good. Sounds mean. Can’t wait.















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Are my speakers garbage, or does that sound V10-ish?
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Sounds like an inline 6 to me
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Definitely sounds like an i6, but the whine it makes sounds like electric motors.
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Yup, hear the electric motor :/
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I was wondering about that. Sorta sounded like a supercharger, but then I heard the turbo... That makes sense it's an electric engine. The way of the future, boys!

On another note, I'm glad that it's not all batmobile-y looking like the concept. The shape of that test car is simple but attractive.. I like it.
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