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Updated Fisker Karma teased, debuts later this month

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It looks like Wanxiang has finally ironed out all the kinks in the ill-fated Fisker Karma as the company has released the first teaser image of the revamped sedan.
While there doesn't appear to be any major styling changes, the company hinted "It's on. Luxury Energized. Energy Optimized." That's not much to go on but the teaser says the model will be introduced sometime this month.
Little is known about the updated Karma but previous reports have suggested the model will cost approximately $135,000 and have "noticeable upgrades" in key areas. There have also been reports that Wanxiang could drop the Fisker name altogether and call the model the Elux Karma.
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Fisker announces new customer support program as it gears up for a relaunch

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Fisker has arisen from their slumber to announce a new customer support program (CSP) for owners of the ill-fated Karma.
Described as "powerful evidence of our new management team's commitment to provide support for our loyal and dedicated Karma owners around the world," the program has established a series of authorized service providers who can work on the Karma.
While there's only a handful of authorized providers - including 15 in the United States and Canada - the CSP will give current Karma owners up to $2,000 worth of parts and labor free of charge. Furthermore, original owners are entitled to an additional $2,000 for parts and $1,000 for labor.
The CSP will remain active until January 31, 2016 or until the reserved CSP funds have been depleted.
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Fisker to build the updated Karma in California

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Fisker Automotive has announced plans to open a new manufacturing facility in Moreno Valley, California.
Set to build the updated Karma, the plant will become Fisker's first U.S. factory and will create approximately 150 full-time manufacturing jobs.
There's no word on when production will begin but Fisker Chief Marketing Officer James Taylor said "California's natural beauty, trend setting, technology, and environmental focus are perfectly aligned with our Karma re-launch." He went on to say the "...close proximity of this plant to our engineering and design headquarters will yield the highest quality product and maximum flexibility to meet our customers' expectations."

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New Fisker aiming for mid-2016 production Karma restart



One slow step at a time, Fisker is getting things buzzing again with a headquarters in Costa Mesa, CA, and an upcoming factory in Moreno Valley, CA. But the company is keeping quiet about when the first new Karmas might actually hit the road, at least until now. According to Jim Taylor, the company's chief marketing officer, who spoke to The Orange County Register, the reborn automaker plans for a relaunch in 2016, probably in the middle of the year. Unfortunately, Taylor didn't nail down a timeframe any more specific than that. "We won't make any promises to say this is our launch date, get ready," he said to the OCR.

Fisker still has some hiring ahead of it before the company is ready to actually produce vehicles again. The headquarters currently has 200 employees, including a new executive team, and is still adding people. As opposed to assembly at the Valmet factory in Finland (where the Karma was originally built), another 150 workers should be at the new 556,000-square-foot California factory when things get rolling there.

The Karma's relaunch is already seeing delays, and the details about any changes to the vehicle still aren't clear. The engineering team is repurposing some of the 150 unsold original Karmas as test platforms, according to the OCR, and they are creating bespoke software for it. Also, A123 Systems, now a corporate sibling of Fisker under Wanxiang, is reportedly supplying updated batteries with different chemistry compared to the previous, recalled units. Styling is rumored to be very similar previous version, and the luxury sedan remains an extended-range plug-in hybrid.

After getting sufficiently staffed, engineering complete, and production underway, the next major challenge is actually selling the relaunched Karma. Fisker still needs to expand its sales network. Although, repairing old examples for customers at points around the country could provide a foothold.
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Fisker Factory In California Is A Go!






A few months ago, I wrote about Fisker Automotive and Technology Group’s search for factory space in California to resuming production of the Elux Karma (aka Fisker Karma). This was somewhat surprising, since it’s not too common for a Chinese company* to manufacture products in California, but stranger things have happened.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Fisker has signed a contract to lease a building with 556,000 square feet of space in Riverside County. The lease is set for 11 years, and the value of the deal has been estimated at $30 million. Clearly, if these numbers are true, Fisker is serious about the Karma and Karma production in Cali.


I’ll update you if more critical information comes in, but for more detail on Fisker Automotive and Technology Group and the Fisker Karma’s history up until now, check out: Fisker Electric Car — Production Resuming? What’s New?
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In A Confusing Move, Fisker Just Changed Its Name to Karma



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There used to be a plug-in hybrid car called the Fisker Karma made by Fisker Automotive. Then there were some battery fires, a recall, lots of wasted, misused tax money, and finally,bankruptcy. Now to break from all that bad stuff, the new owner has changed Fisker’s name to... Karma. That’s odd.
Fisker has been through the wringer in the last five years or so. It built an okay car that tended to catch fire and also sold poorly. It was in production for a couple years, after which Fisker went through lots of drama. Then there was an awkward period of silence when Fisker Karma owners wondered “Uh, what do I do about my broken car?”
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Fast forward to 2014 and Wanxiang Group, the same company that owned Fisker’s infamous battery supplier, decided to pick up the struggling EV company for a whopping $149.2 million.

We thought Fisker had changed its brand’s name to Elux, but today Fisker Automotive changed its name to Karma Automotive. Is naming a brand after a failed car a good idea? Someone thinks so. Here’s video in which the electric car company repeatedly assures that the “new” car company’s future looks really bright.






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BMW to supply powertrain components to Karma Automotive

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BMW to supply powertrain components to Karma Automotive

BMW and Karma Automotive have signed a new agreement which calls for the German automaker to supply Karma with powertrain components including high-voltage battery charging systems and a "wide range of hybrid and EV systems."
The company was tight-lipped about specifics but confirmed their upcoming sedan will be launched next year and will feature a plug-in hybrid powertrain with BMW-sourced components.
That's not much to go on but previous reports have suggested the model will look virtually identical to the Fisker Karma which went out of production in 2012. Despite the styling similarities, the new Karma - or whatever is it is named - will feature a number of "noticeable upgrades" in key areas.
There's no word on what will power the new car but the previous Karma had an eco-friendly powertrain that consisted of a turbocharged 2.0-liter petrol engine, a 20 kWh lithium-ion battery and two electric motors. This setup enabled the car to produce 408 PS (300 kW / 402 hp) and 1,300 Nm (959 lb-ft) of torque. In terms of performance, the Karma could accelerate from 0-100 km/h in 5.9 seconds and hit a top speed of 200 km/h (124 mph).
In a statement, Karma CEO Tom Corcoran said "The Wanxiang Group is giving Karma Automotive the opportunity to bring a stunning car back to the market, and the partnership with BMW and their outstanding track record is a great fit for the future." He also added "We will continue to develop beautiful cars with the latest cutting edge hybrid and EV technology."
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Karma Automotive preps California factory to build 'Revero'














Karma Automotive has reportedly kicked off pre-production validations and training at its California factory.


Now backed by China's Wanxiang Group, the company is currently using the name 'Revero' for the revived Karma, according to an LA Times report. The startup had previously used the term "The New Fisker" and rumors pointed to a further branding change to "Elux," so the Revero name may not be finalized.

Despite the shifting names, Karma's Moreno Valley factory is said to be bustling with activity as the company gets closer to production. Wanxiang reportedly moved Fisker's tooling from Finland, where it sat idle since the bankruptcy. More than 100 completed Karma vehicles and unassembled components were also shipped to California to help train workers and calibrate robots.

The company clearly wants to show that it is serious about selling cars, but its new owners promise that the same mistakes won't be made -- even if the project takes more time.

"We have no pressure that this car has to be in showrooms by Thanksgiving," Karma's chief marketing officer, Jim Taylor, told the LA Times. "We'll reveal the car this summer, and the pricing."

Previous reports suggest the price will fall around $135,000, with up to 3,000 units rolling off the assembly line each year.






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Karma details Revero plug-in hybrid


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Chinese-owned startup Karma Automotive has published a full set of details about the Revero.


Karma was born from the ashes of Fisker, and the Revero is essentially an updated version of the Karma. The styling hasn't changed a whole lot, though careful observers will notice the Revero is equipped with new emblems -- which are painted entirely by hand --, a new-look grille, and redesigned headlights.

Widespread rumors indicated the born-again Karma would use a BMW-sourced engine, but Autoblog has learned that it carries on with a 260-horsepower turbocharged four-cylinder engine borrowed from the General Motors parts bin. A 21.4-kWh battery pack and a compact electric motor allow the Revero to drive for up to 50 miles on electricity alone. Alternatively, it can hit 60 mph from a stop in 5.4 seconds when both power sources are up and running.

Karma has fitted its plug-in sedan with a huge solar panel on the roof. It generates enough juice to power the Revero for about one and a half miles in ideal weather conditions, which likely means on an unusually hot summer day in San Diego.

The Revero is still a four-seater, but Karma has thoroughly upgraded the infotainment system with the help of Rightware. Pictures of the cabin haven't been published yet, however.

The Karma Revero is on sale now with a base price of $130,000 before options and government incentives are factored in, according to Autoblog.






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China approves local production for resurrected Karma

Owner Wanxiang Group has received permission to build a factory with an output capacity of 50,000 vehicles annually.




Karma Automotive owner Wanxiang Group has received permission to begin building cars in China.

A National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) notice spotted by Reuters confirms official approval for a planned factory in Hangzhou worth approximately $375 million USD.

When Fisker Automotive went bankrupt in 2013, Wanxiang stepped in to buy the design rights to the Karma hybrid and the automaker's manufacturing assets. The China-based owners rebranded the company to Karma Automotive and resurrected the Karma car as the Revero.

Karma Automotive has publicly highlighted its production plans at its Moreno Valley, California, factory with an expected output around 3,000 units each year, however the regulatory filings in China suggest the second plant closer to Wanxiang's home will be capable of churning out 50,000 vehicles annually.

The larger assembly plant may be focused on a different model in Karma's roadmap, known as the Atlantic, that shares the Revero's styling but is expected to carry a much lower price tag. Previous reports suggest the company expects the coupe to account for 80 percent of total factory output.

Karma Automotive has not yet announced a launch date for the Revero.


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Karma Automotive's next vehicle won't be the Atlantic, a coupe or a convertible, but it will be muscular

Still, Karma is getting ready for more.





It's been a few months since we've gotten an update on what's happening at Karma Automotive. Since the car is here at the Detroit Auto Show, we stopped by and talked to Karma's TIm Oleston about where the company is and what's coming soon.

  • Last fall, Karma was saying that its 550,000-square-foot factory in Moreno Valley, California would be up and running about now. But the timeline has turned into a more vague "some time in 2017," so we'll just have to wait for new about the start of actual production. Karma has run a few pre-production prototypes through the machines, and took 8-10 of them on a tour for prospective buyers in all the cities where the car will be sold (see the list here).
  • On that tour, interested buyers were able to take the cars on test drives. "We wrung these cars out, in all kinds of weather," Oleston said, and none of them had a problem. We expect a spokesperson to give us the positive side of the story, but we'll take him at his word when he says that Karma engineers were expecting lots of problems, and were instead pleasantly surprised.
  • The car itself remains pretty much the same as we're seen before, with 981 foot-pounds of torque and a top speed of about 128 miles an hour. Twenty-two-inch wheels are standard. The whole thing weighs about 5,400 pounds, so it's not going to win awards at the drag strip, but the more rigid chassis makes the Revero an excellent long-distance tourer, Oleston said, saying that he's spent thousands of miles behind the wheel.
  • Oleston said that while the upcoming factory will be able to make more, if Karma sells about 2,000 Reveros, maybe 1,000 of them in the first year, that'd meet the company's expectations.
  • As for the Karma model that's coming after the Revero, it will not be the Atlantic. Oleston said that the designers are working on "quite a few project," including ideas that take the "feline muscularity" of the Revero and crank it up a notch. Other than that, he would only hint at Karma's next model: "It's not a coupe, it's not a convertible. That's all I should say right now." More information will be coming in a few years, he said.
  • The Revero's infotainment is getting a major overhaul. We knew this, and that it will have Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. You can see more in the video below.
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2017 Karma Revero PHEV deliveries to start this month, online configurator is now available























The American automotive company Karma Automotive has launched an online configurator for its brand new Revero -- the newest plug-in hybrid sedan influenced by the now obsolete Fisker Karma. Only recently, Karma Automotive announced that it will officially launch the Revero and it then released all the specifications of the plug-in hybrid, including an updated interior.

Karma Automotive will also kick-start its deliveries of the newest plug-in hybrid sedan later this month. The American automaker has secured its first television spot, which aired last weekend on CBS during the 2017 U.S. Open Polo Championship - wherein Karma Automotive was one of the sponsors of the held affair. In the ad called "Delivery", there were scenes of the Revero being shipped to California and Florida, so we can only assume that this is the beginning of the Karma takeover. Karma Automotive's Chief Revenue Officer Jim Taylor said in his speech that the spot symbolizes the rebirth of one of the most renowned silhouettes in automotive history. They felt that this moment in time deserved to be recognized.
New Karma Revero is the modernized version of the now defunct Fisher Karma plug-in hybrid vehicle. Produced in Finland, the Fisker Karma was considered a beautiful flop, with approximately 1,950 models sold before the Fisker Automotive went bankrupt. Afterwards, Wanxiang Group Corp which is based in China, purchased the company's remaining assets in 2014 for $149.2 million.
It then announced plans to build a new factory that will be located in Southern California. In the years that followed, the company talked to Fisker owners and finally gave the go-ahead for a new plant to re-invent the vehicle that will be considered the next-gen model. Karma will utilize the original design and hardware of the Fisker's Karma extended range electric vehicle that was axed in 2012.
In addition, the company has updated and modified its different elements. The modifications included a solar panel roof suited to charge the vehicle's battery because of its fast charging capacity. It also comes with an improved infotainment system and a 2.0 L turbocharged inline 4. Two electric motor will deliver power to the back wheels and will produce a combined 403 hp.
We’ve also learned that several models will be produced in California, where most units will be hand built. However, a larger factory located in China will build most of the upcoming vehicles. Previously, Karma Automotive hinted that the new Revero deliveries will begin in the first quarter of 2017. It also said that it aims to sell as many as 900 units the first year. Well, it’s already May so that means it experienced a slight delay. But then again, a wait of a few months isn’t that significant. This Karma Revero has a base price of around $131,400.
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Karma plugs in the Revero configurator



Karma Revero configurator

Karma Automotive has powered up the configurator for its Revero extended-range electric sedan as the company prepares to make its first deliveries this month. However, instead of the traditional configuration experience, Karma has done things a little differently.
Found on the official website, the configurator confronts shoppers with a selection of scenery. "What drives you?" the website asks. How about calm, peaceful looking ocean waves?
We have expensive tastes since this turned out to net an optional $2,500 exterior color dubbed "Ocean Veil." However, there are eight total color choices to finish your own Karma Revero in. Six of the choices net an additional $1,500 or $2,500, though.
Following that selection, more scenery floods the screen, this time coinciding with the interior trimmings. Sorting through the different options shows single, dual and tri-tone options. The most expensive, and standalone option, is the "Palisades Sport" interior trim, which incorporates red, black, and carbon fiber appointments.
2017 Karma Revero

Not all options play nice together. The aforementioned Palisades Sport interior trim cannot be applied to the Balboa Blue, Moreno, or Anza Desert exterior colors.
After clicking through all the potential options, the most expensive Revero comes to $139,900 after selecting optional 22-inch, multi-spoke wheels and opting for color-finished brake calipers, $3,200 and $900, respectively.
Each Revero is powered by two electric motors delivering a combined output of 403 horsepower. Pure electric range is said to be around 50 miles, but relying on the gasoline range extender, in this case a 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4 from General Motors, sees the range increased to 300 miles.
Karma recently dropped its first-ever television ad in anticipation of launching the Revero this month. The Chinese-backed company aims to sell 900 of the Californian-made vehicles this year.
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2017 Karma Revero starts delivery

After bowing out of production in 2012, the Fisker Karma extended-range electric sedan is finally back, although now the car is known as the Revero and sold by the new company Karma.
Karma is the new electric car brand from Chinese parts supplier Wanxiang, which bought the rights to the Fisker Karma sedan in 2014.
Karma has implemented numerous updates for its Revero and is manufacturing the sedan in Moreno Valley, California. (Fisker outsourced production of the Karma to Finland’s Valmet.)
On Friday, Karma shipped out the first batch of Reveros to dealers; the company has eight dealers across the United States and plans to roll out more. There was a small celebration at the Moreno Valley plant for the start of deliveries attended by roughly 800 Karma staff.
Details on where to buy a Revero can be found on Karma’s website, where the company also has a configurator set up. Pricing starts at $130,000 and there are very few options to add.
The Revero is being introduced as a 2017 model. Changes over the Karma sedan included a higher capacity for the battery, a solar panel roof capable of adding charge to the battery, fast-charging capability, a much-improved infotainment system, and a more refined range-extender—in this case a 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4.
The powertrain hasn’t changed, though. Two electric motors power the rear wheels and deliver a combined output of 403 horsepower. Karma quotes an electric range of 50 miles on a full charge, and together with a tank of gas the Revero should be able to cover around 300 miles.
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Update: The Karma Is Still Awful

(Screenshot from our Jason Drives episode featuring the Karma back when it was a ‘Fisker’. Not much has changed, including the expression.)
The Fisker Karma went through hell and is now back again, this time spun off separate of its designer’s company as its own thing called Karma Automotive. It was bad before, and reports indicate it is, yeah, still bad.
Let’s put “bad” into context. The original Fisker Karma was an... interesting design from automotive legend Henrik Fisker, who wanted to start his own company making expensive luxury hybrid cars that kind of competed with Tesla. Unfortunately, his company lost a ton of cars to water damage along with a lot of the government’s money, and then it was sold off to a Chinese company who has brought it back from the dead for some reason.
Here’s an overview of what we found wrong with the original car:

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The new car is called the Karma Revero, and the new company is named after the original car, Karma Automotive. The price of the Revero jumped to $130,000, about $30k over the original Fisker, with an updated hybrid setup paired to the same-old 260-horsepower, turbocharged four-cylinder gas engine from GM that essentially acts as a generator. It also added a dumb, expensive solar roof gimmick to the car that only realistically adds about 1.5 miles of range on a good day.





So the old Karma had problems, and the Revero isn’t any better, according to the latest review of the car by Hannah Elliott over at Bloomberg. Here are some notable quotes from her review, which you should definitely check out in full:
As for how the Revero feels to drive, well, have you ever crunched sand in your teeth? Accidentally skied over gravel? It feels like that. I sat in traffic with this thing and it might have looked like I was someone learning to drive stick; I actually thought the parking brake was still engaged when I first pushed the gas, it felt so heavy and stilted as I turned the wheel and tried to go.

I turned to the Karma minder/marketing lady in the back seat and asked, “How much does this car weigh?” Fifty-four hundred pounds was the reply, more than a 2017 Ford F-150 truck.
The oddly shaped inserts in the dashboard and doors, which look like Pyrex containers, had me literally thinking there must be some Scientology connection here.

The front grille looks like a bad mustache—like a longer, blunt male version of the pink ones on the front of a Lyft.

But this following quote, for me, is the true sign of all of the revised Karma’s problems:
Multiple times, to several Karma employees, I asked: “Who would you say are this car’s closest competitors?” I got everything from Tesla to not-Tesla; the Maserati Quattroporte; the Aston Martin Rapid; a “Lamborghini.” Barring the Quattroporte, those all outperform the Revero in every way, and the Quattroporte is $30,000 cheaper.
But I can see how this is a difficult question. Taylor said the Karma “is not set up to go to the airport and pick up a bunch of luggage,” but on the other hand, it’s “not meant to be a rocket ship” or even, amusingly, “to replace your Maserati.” What are we talking about again?
“This is not meant to be a testosterone car,” Taylor said. “If you want a zero-to-60-mph car, go get that one.”

So we’ve got undertones of Scientology, a ride quality reminiscent of eating sand, enough mass to act as a paperweight for a continent, and a company with no clue who its competition or customer is.





I very much like the idea of Karma Automotive (and Henrik Fisker’s other, new-new car brand he’s got running now), and the idea of new, unique and special proprietary cars running around. I just hope they can work out how to make them better to drive and more desirable to own. I wish them luck, but I’m not confident karma is on their side in deciding their fate and future.
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Don’t Buy a Karma Revero, Buy a Tesla Instead. Or Anything Else.

The debut offering from the revived Karma brand, an electric sedan, is like an old car dressed up in a not-great new package.

Here are some good things about the 2018 Karma Revero:
  1. It’s basically electric. That means the Revero mostly runs on battery power and occasionally uses a combustion engine to extend range, as opposed to switching between motors throughout.
  2. It looks, uh, distinct. Not beautiful—go look at a Rapide or a 911 or even a Model S and tell me this one looks equally stunning. I dare you. But, at the very least, the Karma Revero definitely looks like you spent a lot money on it.
  3. Oh, and you will spend a lot of money on it. Some people like doing that.
That’s about it. I drove a gray-green Revero up the Palisades Parkway this week in a cool mist that would have made a prettier car look like magic and feel like a dream from behind the wheel. Instead, this redux Fisker Karma put me in a bad mood.


The Karma Revero is made in Moreno Valley, Calif. It’s a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
The Zombie Returns

Let’s rewind. Now-defunct Fisker Automotive produced the Karma four-door sedan in 2012. It was the first production car in the U.S. to offer that particular series-hybrid powertrain. This was just as Tesla’s Model S came out, so it was a big deal. Justin Bieber owned one. They were supposed to be the conscientious cars for celebrities and stars.
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But then they didn’t sell. There were some fires. The company declared bankruptcy in 2013 and Republican opponents dubbed Fisker the poster child for President Barack Obama’s “crony capitalism” after taxpayers lost $139 million. Meanwhile, founder Henrik Fisker started other projects. Wanxiang Group bought the leftover assets for $150 million in 2014 and renamed the company Karma Automotive, based in Southern California and populated with ex-Tesla and ex-Cadillac executives who have carte blanche, from what they tell me, to make something of it.


There are three drive modes (Stealth, Sustain, and Sport) and three levels of regenerative braking.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
Which brings us to the 2018 Karma Revero they’re selling for $130,000. Karma is now unrelated to Fisker Automotive. Henrik himself is not involved. But the car is fundamentally the same as the original Karma, including both the design and the platform.
This is unfortunate.
The Reluctant Driver

The thing most audacious about the Karma Revero is how it drives. I mean audacious like Florence Foster Jenkins was audacious; I wondered if I was being pranked.
First, the details: The Karma Revero has two electric motors and a 21-kilowatt-hour battery that drive the rear wheels, plus a two-liter, four-cylinder turbocharged engine that extends the range of the car when the battery depletes. General Motors supplies the engine, though it doesn’t currently make it anymore, so when supplies dwindle, the Revero will need another supplier.


The Karma Revero has two electric motors and a 21-kilowatt-hour battery that drive the rear wheels, plus a two-liter, four-cylinder turbocharged engine that extends the range of the car when the battery depletes. It put this writer in a bad mood.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
As for that range, the Revero will go 50 miles under electric-only power before it switches to gasoline—averaging 20 mpg at speed. These are not impressive numbers. The $33,200 Chevrolet Volt gets 53 miles per electric charge and 42 mpg under gasoline; the sub-$70,000 Tesla Model S gets more than 200 miles on pure electricity.
The Revero achieves 60 mph in 5.4 seconds under Sport mode, its fastest setting. Sustain mode, the slowest, sees 60 mph in 7.3 seconds. Top speed (again, in Sport mode only) is 125 mph. We all know the expensive, high-power Tesla Model S in P100D form can hit 60 mph way faster, in record-breaking sub-3-seconds time. But even the base Tesla Model S, which costs $68,500, can hit 60 mph in 5.5 seconds. The disparity here between price and speed doesn’t compute.
As for how the Revero feels to drive, well, have you ever crunched sand in your teeth? Accidentally skied over gravel? It feels like that. I sat in traffic with this thing and it might have looked like I was someone learning to drive stick; I actually thought the parking brake was still engaged when I first pushed the gas, it felt so heavy and stilted as I turned the wheel and tried to go.
I turned to the Karma minder/marketing lady in the back seat and asked, “How much does this car weigh?” Fifty-four hundred pounds was the reply, more than a 2017 Ford F-150 truck.


The Revero has bi-xenon headlights with automatic washers; the exterior mirrors fold and defrost automatically.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
Yes, the car moves smoothly enough once you have it pointed in one direction at speed. It’s compliant as it accelerates, and visibility behind the wheel isn’t bad. But nowhere in the three drive modes and the three regenerative brake settings did I find a sweet spot of actual comfort, or excitement. I kept waiting for the jerky brakes to chill out, or the weird humming to die down, but they never did.
Early reviews had critics thrilled the car “worked.” That this is the base line for evaluating a vehicle in the modern age is terrible. Being happy with a car simply because it works? For $130,000—$140,000 with all of the options—I expect it to do a lot more than that.
Almost Doesn’t Count

It better be good inside, too. In 2012, Consumer Reports said the Fisker Karma had “unfortunately routine problems” with a cramped interior and substandard performance, among other things. Which, no kidding. But the new Karma engineers spent more than two years attacking that car’s problems with the goal of eliminating each one.


The infotainment system has a touch panel interface, audio, radio, and Bluetooth with navigation and real-time traffic updates.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
They did not meet this goal.
Aside from the lackluster driving personality discussed above, the Karma Revero is just plain weird inside, with a triangular faux-crystal gear selector and un-ergonomic divot buttons for Park, Reverse, Neutral, and Drive. The oddly shaped inserts in the dashboard and doors, which look like Pyrex containers, had me literally thinking there must be some Scientology connection here. They served no purpose (I asked) and looked like something you’d expect to find in the bathroom of your berth on the Freewinds.
A moderately sized screen on the dashboard has some clever graphics that showed the flow of energy in the car, a mildly entertaining touch, but this is the BlackBerry—not iPhone—of cars. Literally. (The company uses Certicom, which is owned by BlackBerry, for the security of its connectivity and data systems.)


The car seats four adults.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
As for the back seat, I found myself asking James Taylor, the head of the company, if he had enough space when he jumped in for part of the test drive. What could he say but yes? But I wouldn’t have wanted to be the one wedged into a back seat split up the middle by a console that runs the length of the interior.
It’s not like the leather was any good, either. The Revero is apparently trimmed in Bridge of Weir leather, a company with longtime connections to some of our favorite automakers. And it’s Scottish, by gum! I love the Scots. But the brown and black upholstery in the Revero felt like a faux-leather suitcase from the 1970s.
Elsewhere: The door handles inside and out are impractical and poorly designed. The famous solar roof, while updated, offers only enough extra power on the sunniest days to gain 1.5 miles of driving. The front grille looks like a bad mustache—like a longer, blunt male version of the pink ones on the front of a Lyft.
From some angles the car is almost good-looking, like a dress shirt whose sleeves are almost long enough. Henrik Fisker is a genius creator and a very charismatic man; he designed the landmark Aston Martin DB9. This is no DB9.


Using an onboard 6.6 kW charger, the battery reaches full potential in 10 hours on a 120-volt outlet. Using an off-board 40kW charger, it charges from 15 percent to 85 percent in 24 minutes.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
Where Does It Belong?

Multiple times yesterday, to multiple Karma employees, I asked: “Who will buy this car?”
“We have some good prospects from people who loved Fisker,” (30 percent of Fisker owners have come back to the brand, they report) and “It will be people who want to stand out,” they said. (I’ll give them the latter.)
“The customers who buy this are OK being noticed,” Taylor told me. “We have a lot of interest from current Tesla owners. For a lot of them, it’s ‘My car isn’t interesting anymore,’ ” he said.
OK. At any rate, Karma has eight dealers in the U.S. and two in Canada processing a total of 100 orders for the car, so far. It has licensing in China to manufacture cars there in the distant future, after this first generation runs its course and if things go very well. But when asked when Gen 2 might appear, Taylor said he didn’t know.


One of the newest things about the exterior of the Karma car is the color. There are multiple paint options available for buyers, like this Corona Del Sol red.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
Multiple times, to several Karma employees, I asked: “Who would you say are this car’s closest competitors?” I got everything from Tesla to not-Tesla; the Maserati Quattroporte; the Aston Martin Rapid; a “Lamborghini.” Barring the Quattroporte, those all outperform the Revero in every way, and the Quattroporte is $30,000 cheaper.
But I can see how this is a difficult question. Taylor said the Karma “is not set up to go to the airport and pick up a bunch of luggage,” but on the other hand, it’s “not meant to be a rocket ship” or even, amusingly, “to replace your Maserati.” What are we talking about again?
“This is not meant to be a testosterone car,” Taylor said. “If you want a zero-to-60-mph car, go get that one.”
So if it’s not a practical daily driver and it’s not a sporty scream machine, then what is it? “It’s like the GT touring cars,” he said. “This is a third or fourth car that you take up the highway on a drive. You’re not going anywhere, you’re just driving.”
No. That’s like having a restaurant you opened to serve people who aren’t hungry, and the worst thing about the joint is the food.
I went into this test thinking the Revero could be an exciting new car, something radically different from the Fisker Karma and a new entry into the smartly evolving hybrid category. Turns out I was just spinning my wheels.


Top speed is 125 mph in Sport mode.
Photographer: Cesar Soto/Bloomberg
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Update: The Karma's Fuel Economy Is Still Awful




Photo via Karma’s website.
The old Fisker Karma was an intriguing and deeply flawed hybrid that was sort of fascinatingly disjointed. The new Karma, now called the Revero by a company named Karma, is still just as messy—and inefficient.

Last month we highlighted a Bloomberg review of the new Karma Revero, which was an almost alarming take on the car, claiming it had a horrible ride quality, felt heavier than the moon, was finished in some odd styling cues reminiscent of Scientology, and revealed that the company couldn’t even describe its target market. That made for a heavy hybrid that costs more than $130,000 and isn’t really all that practical. But that wasn’t it.
Now the EPA has gotten its hands on the new Revero, and things are still awful. According to the EPA report, via InsideEVs, Revero owners are likely to spend $500 more per year in fuel costs that the average new vehicle. That’s right—buy this fancy expensive hybrid and end up paying more for gas than if you bought almost anything else.





And why is that? Well it has to do with the EPA’s other findings. Karma claims the Revero gets 50 miles of pure electric range, but the EPA claimed only 37 miles. Karma claims the Revero has a total range of 300 miles, but the EPA rated it at only 240. The car was rated at an abysmal 60 MPGe combined, and 20 MPG combined for only the gasoline output of the car. There are better trucks on the market.
As InsideEVs pointed out, these new figures aren’t surprising considering they’re nearly identically to the old Fisker Karma, which got 33 miles of EV range, 54 MPGe, 20 MPG, and claimed owners spent an estimated $1,000 in higher fuel costs than average. Hey! The price of the car went up but you’ll spend more-than-average-but-not-as-much on fuel every year now!
So what does that leave the Karma Revero with? It’s styling? Some people seem to like it. They include Justin Bieber. I don’t mind the styling being different, but who on Earth would pay $130,000 for an inefficient, slow and heavy hybrid when they could get something good?
Then again, this is a brand whose website quotes CNET with, “Panel gaps look tight and consistent, and the paint job is flawless.” Confidence inspiring!
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Karma Spied Testing Refreshed Revero, Including New Lights












The original design appears to receive a major overhaul.





Now that China's Wanxiang Group Corp has revived and updated the Fisker Karma as the Karma Automotive Revero, the company has started the process of updating the aging design. New spy shots provide the first hint at the updates on the way.
Karma Automotive keeps the updated Revero under heavy camouflage, which does a great job of hiding the changes. However, it appears that the company intends to overall both the front and rear, and the tweaks may make the sedan look a lot less like Henrik Fisker’s original design.



Up front, the new design seems to do away with the previous highly contoured hood in favor of a longer, more rounded look. There are also revised LED headlights that have a narrow, squinting appearance. The bumper might lose the existing split grille in favor of a single, wide opening



Around back, there are also major changes but not nearly as extensive as in the front. It appears that Karma Automotive has new taillights for the model. The design seems to use an array of circular LED lights rather than the current strips for illumination.



Karma Automotive only recently began deliveries of the Revero. Prices start at $130,000 and top out at $139,900. On the outside, buyers can choose from eight exterior colors, four wheels, and colored brake calipers. Plus, there are six available shades for the cabin. The company’s goal is to sell 900 of them in 2017, but the plant in Southern California has an annual production capacity of 3,000 units.


The Revero has a total output of 403-horsepower (300-kilowatt) from a plug-in hybrid powertrain that combines a GM-sourced turbocharged four-cylinder engine and BMW-supplied electric components. The EPA rates the model has having a total range of 240 miles (386 kilometers), including 37 miles (60 km) from the batteries alone. The sedan can reach 60 miles per hour (96 kilometers per hour) in 5.4 seconds.
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