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2018 Kia Stinger: Australian equipment highlights revealed












Australian buyers now have a clearer view of the features they can be expect to find in the new 2018 Kia Stinger, with the company this week highlighting key equipment items.
This latest drop follows the release in early August of pricing for the 3.3-litre turbo V6 models, which will see the 272kW/510Nm sedan kick off from below $50,000. Catch that story here.
Today, the company has handed down details that confirm the veracity of our June story, based off a leaked dealer bulletin obtained by a CarAdvice reader.
Full range details are still to come, but today’s release confirms the entry model in the 3.3-litre line – the Stinger S – will pack solid value.


Standard kit for the Stinger S will include 18-inch wheels shod with 225/45R18 Continental ContiSport Contact 5 rubber, which means we could see four-cylinder models open with either the same hoops or a smaller design.
Kia’s release today lists safety kit ahead of comfort and convenience features, declaring this a “primary concern” for the brand and buyers – although autonomous emergency braking is not among the items listed.
The $48,990 S model’s safety features include seven airbags, anti-lock braking with emergency brakeforce distribution and brake assist, Electronic Stability Control and traction control, Vehicle Stability Management, hill assist, rear view camera with dynamic parking guidelines, rear cross traffic alert, active hood pedestrian protection, LED daylight running lights and three child restraint points (two ISOFIX).

Other features include eight-way powered adjustment for the driver’s seat and six-way adjustment for the front passenger’s seat, with all trimmed in artificial leather.
Also standard for the S model are cruise control with steering-mounted controls, a 3.5-inch instrument display and a 7.0-inch main dash display, six speakers, two 12V power points and two USB points. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are also included for free.
The $55,990 Si steps up the style and performance with 19-inch alloys wrapped in a staggered 225/40R front and 255/35R19 rear tyre arrangement.

Safety is also improved in the Si, gaining Advanced Smart Cruise Control and Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) with Forward Collision Warning, Lane Keeping Assist, Driver Attention Alert, front parking sensors, and rain-sensing wipers.
The Si also gets an 8.0-inch display with nine speakers, including two under-seat woofers and “active sound design”.
And, while the S gets four cup holders, four bottle holders, centre console storage box and front seat pockets, the Si gets those and an under-floor luggage tray and net in the boot.

The $59,990 hero GT model gets a 360-degree camera view, Blind Spot Detection, Dynamic Bending Lights, High Beam Assist and full-colour Heads Up Display (HUD).
On the outside, the GT also adds electrochromatic door mirrors, LED headlights, a powered sunroof, a flat-bottomed ‘D-cut’ steering wheel and a pair of colours unique to the GT: Aurora Black and Snow White Pearl.
The instrument panel display sizes up to a 7.0-inch unit, and there’s also alloy sports pedals and suede trim for the interior roof and pillar trims.
Seating in the GT is upgraded to Nappa leather with GT logos, along with lumbar support, powered bolster adjustment and a thigh support extender. Two-position seat memory is also featured.

Finally, the GT also gets a premium 15-speaker Harman/Kardon audio system, which is made up of eight speakers, four tweeters, a centre speaker and two subwoofers powered by an external amplifier.
For more on the Stinger, catch our coverage at the links below and watch for our Australian first-drive review to come in mid-September. You can also read our Nurburgring first-drive review.
2018 Kia Stinger V6 pricing


Stinger S – $48,990
Stinger Si – $55,990
Stinger GT – $59,990
Prices exclude on-road costs
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The secrets behind the Kia Stinger design







Kia Stinger is a product of passion. Designed and engineered to head-turning perfection, the Stinger represents the realization of a longstanding dream for Kia’s design team.
With an eye-catchingly stunning design and groundbreaking performance, the Stinger marks a turn in design direction that Kia has never taken before. World renowned Kia big names including Peter Schreyer, Gregory Guillaume and Albert Biermann have labored over the vehicle’s conception for years and there is no doubt that the final outcome of their collaboration has painted big smiles on each of their faces.

Peter Schreyer, Chief Design Officer of Kia Motors,
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Gregory Guillaume, Chief Designer of Kia Motors Europe,
introducing the Stinger at the Kia Media Lounge event in Italy

Albert Biermann, Head of Vehicle Test & High Performance Development at Kia,
behind the wheel during Stinger winter testing in Sweden

Car enthusiasts worldwide may have already poured over the details and specs of our prized fastback but there are many hidden design cues that make Stinger all the more special. Let’s learn about the little-known ‘secrets’ behind the Kia Stinger design.

An Iconic Gran Turismo


With an unparalleled level of elegance and athleticism, the Stinger channels the spirit of the gran turismos of the 1970s. Taking inspiration from those icons of the past, the design team placed a strong emphasis on the balance and proportions of the Stinger’s body.


True to form, the Stinger sports sedan has been designed with wind flow in mind. The width, height, and even the individual panels have been intricately shaped and refined to achieve optimum performance. The low height and long wheelbase even takes inspiration from air crafts while the rear of the car is designed to serve as a rear wing to boost aerodynamic performance by reducing drag. Even the proportions of the model’s greenhouse have been shifted to create a leaner and roomier body.


With these functional but stylish design decisions, the Stinger boasts a broad stance and sleek fastback silhouette, striking the desired balance between elegant luxury and aggressive dynamism that is crucial for a sports sedan.

Unique Kia Accents
A fresh and modern take on the gran turismo, the Stinger is not without stylistic elements that make the model unique and recognizable.


The windshield of the Stinger is marked by a ridged cut line where it meets the roof. This design detail comes from Peter Schreyer’s idea to make Kia vehicles recognizable even when looking top down at the roof. The notched cuts also appear on other areas of the car including on the tiger-nose grille and rear bumper.


Gregory Guillaume also notes that his very own favorite Stinger design detail is the voluptuous ‘coke-bottle’ shaped flank. Inspired by the bottle of the famous cola brand, the hind curves draw the eyes to the Stinger’s shoulder lines and fastback rear. Meanwhile, the uniquely shaped LED headlights and flag-type side mirrors are design accents that make the Stinger stand out from all others.


Vivid Hues


One of the first things that people notice about the Kia Stinger is the vivid and vibrant color options. Already, High Chroma Red is a popular choice among fans who are drawn to the intense saturation of crimson paint.


The secret behind the popular color is the addition of a silver powder coating that reflects light for a deeper looking color. The paint job is also finished with a red clear coating instead of the usual transparent coating to make the color even more saturated.

A New Paradigm


Upon its debut at the 2017 NAIAS, the Stinger stole the spotlight amongst a sea of new production cars. As the first fastback sedan made by a Korean manufacturer, the model has stood out as an intriguing outlier receiving great praise from industry professionals for its excellence in design.


The Kia Stinger ushers in a new paradigm that is sure to Kia brand to another level. Stay tuned as we continue to bring you more delightful surprises about the Kia Stinger!
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I'm still holding out on my next car purchase until this thing is released. I've got the itch really bad, and it's getting really hard to wait. However, I'd be really upset if I ended up buying the other car I'm looking at and then this thing turns out to be absolutely awesome. Gah! Hurry up and release this thing, Kia!
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I should have one available to look at in the next few weeks as a display (no-vin, so its not street legal). I'll keep everyone in the loop when it drops.
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I have NO idea what they are saying but I saw Stinger vs Camaro

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Exclusive 2018 Kia Stinger GT First Test: Well Stung

Kia unleashes a premium sport sedan worthy of challenging the world's best






The concept of “grand touring” has been around for centuries, and the moniker has been applied to cars since the 1940s, but it’s a term we tend to associate with exotic sports cars. The formula, though, is pretty simple: stylish, comfortable on a long drive, and plenty of power. But there’s no rule that says it has to cost a fortune, and the Kia Stinger GT is absolutely taking advantage of this exception.
We’ve driven prototypes at an overseas R & D complex, on a frozen Swedish lake, and on the Nürburgring Nordschleife. Now, finally, we’ve driven a production-spec 2018 Kia Stinger GT on real roads and to our own Auto Club Speedway test track. How does it fare against the German luxury sedans against which it will undoubtedly be compared?

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Korean-branded cars usually aren’t synonymous with performance, but the rear-drive Stinger GT launches from 0 to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds and clocks the standing quarter mile in 13.3 seconds at 106.9 mph. An emergency stop from 60 mph requires 113 feet, and it’ll pull 0.85 average lateral g on a skidpad. On our exclusive figure-eight test track, the Stinger GT recorded a lap of 26.2 seconds at 0.71 average lateral g. Impressive numbers.
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It’s pretty good to drive away from the test track, too. Out in the mountains, the Stinger GT exhibits a surprising but intriguing combination of vertical compliance and lateral stiffness. Over bumps, the suspension was soft and the ride of luxury-car quality. In the corners, though, it was stiff with excellent body control. Even when pushing hard, the Stinger GT rode well but dug into corners with little body roll.





The power is well-matched to the vehicle and only feels inadequate if you let the revs drop too low. You want those turbochargers working for you, and the best way to do it is to take advantage of the paddle shifters because the transmission isn’t quite aggressive enough for the really twisty roads.
“The engine has a fat torque curve, strong in midrange with noticeable lag at the bottom end,” our staff professional racer, Randy Pobst, said during filming for an episode of Ignition—which you can watch right now at Motor Trend OnDemand and YouTube.com/motortrend. “Low revs mean calling ahead and waiting for the power to be delivered. The Stinger is quite powerful, and one must constantly remind oneself that this is a Kia that is tearing up this winding road or on-ramp.”
Randy’s critique continued: “The transmission is just not sport-smart enough in automatic, especially on the track. It shifts up, so I just let it. There’s no reason for me to pull that paddle. I just have to remember to downshift on the way in, or else it won’t. The shifting is reasonable. It matches revs. It’s quick.”





It’s hard to say whether the transmission programming has changed since I drove a prototype on the Nürburgring or if our mountain roads and the Streets of Willow Springs racetrack are so much tighter that it amplifies the transmission’s inadequacy, but my initial impressions were more positive.
As well as we know the Stinger GT can drift in the right conditions, it doesn’t actually want to get wild out in the real world. The suspension tuning is conservative, the default behavior at the limit understeer. It makes the car very stable, never trying to swap ends no matter how hard you drive it. Thankfully, there’s a lot of grip in the front end, so you have to push it very hard to get it to plow. Just driving fast, it feels neutral. You need to be pushing your braking points to the last second and carrying as much speed as possible into a corner to make it cry uncle.
Here again, I wonder if the American-market tuning increases understeer versus the European-spec car I drove. Or maybe Randy just carries that much more speed in the corners. It’s probably the latter. The upshot: You’ll never feel a stability control intervention.
“What they’ve done is create stability control by tuning the car for a lot of understeer in the middle of a corner,” Randy said.





That’s not to say it won’t drift. Turn the computer off, give it a Scandinavian flick and too much throttle, and it’ll do a nice power oversteer or two. It’s just not a hoon by nature.
“It seems that the stability control is always learning and adapting,” Randy said. “Even with it turned off, it became more and more invasive as the day wore on, and the wheelspin and sliding woke up the nannies that watch over us hooligans. After a few nice drifts, the car began to resolutely resist power oversteer—a darned shame and frustrating.”
In other words, this is a grand touring sedan that actually takes its GT badge seriously. Out on the highway, it’s everything you want on a road trip. It floats over bad pavement while remaining taut and responsive on long, sweeping corners. In a world of Demons and Hellcats, 365 hp might not seem like a lot, but it’s plenty when applied correctly. The in-house eight-speed auto is programmed smartly for real-world conditions, delivering downshifts with little prodding. With the revs up and the turbos spinning, the engine delivers a pleasant surge of power that whisks you past trucks and loafers. It’s a very easy and comfortable car to cover distance in.

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“The springs and shocks that control vertical motion are quite soft,” Randy said. “But transitional responses are quite well-controlled, likely by relatively strong anti-roll bars, and the ride is still quite compliant. Think ‘older Buick’ ride quality. Surprising for a sport sedan like this.”
It’s not just comfortable from the driver’s seat, either. The Kia has 2 to 4 inches of wheelbase over the Germans, and it puts them to good use. There’s ample rear-seat legroom and, despite the sloping roof, headroom for tall people. The front seats, meanwhile, are aggressively bolstered so you can concentrate on those mountain roads when you cross their path.
Capable though it may be from seat to steering, and despite testing it on the Nürburgring, Kia insists the Stinger GT isn’t a track car. We took it to a track anyway, and things got complicated. Kia’s press cars at the moment are all preproduction prototypes, and the first car they gave us suffered a power steering failure and had to be replaced. The second car, as it turns out, hadn’t yet had its U.S.-spec springs and dampers installed, and it exhibited considerably more body roll and understeer on the track than the first car. As a result, Randy posted a lap time—1:28.90—that he felt wasn’t representative of what the car could do. With a properly equipped car, Randy believes he could subtract a full second.

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Things that didn’t change on track: the car’s weight and its braking performance—113 feet isn’t anywhere near a record in our 60–0-mph braking test, but it only tells part of the story. Randy was continually impressed at the durability of the brakes. Throughout a very hot day, the pedal remained consistent, and the steel brakes refused to fade.
“The brakes are impressively strong, with a consistent and firm pedal feel that inspires confidence,” he said. “The braking does not upset the chassis, and the pad compound can take the heat.”
There will be heat, and not just from the brakes. The Stinger GT is taking on a wildly competitive segment ruled by a small in-crowd. Whether it’s staring down the German triumvirate or the American holdouts, the sport sedan from the value brand has a lot to prove.
“For a first effort at a genuine sport sedan, the Stinger is quite an accomplishment,” Randy said. “It clearly is set up for a comfortable ride as a priority over race car dynamics, but in the real world, this makes sense. Even more so among buyers of a big, powerful GT car.”
Like no Korean car before it, the Stinger GT speaks the language of the enthusiast. Will they listen?
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Show moreHow does the Stinger stack up?

How good are the Kia’s performance numbers for a 365-hp 3.3-liter twin-turbo V-6 with 376 lb-ft of torque and a roughly $40,000 starting price? They seem all right when you consider the Stinger GT falls between a midsize and full-size sedan in dimension and weighs 4,005 pounds. Making a direct comparison is trickier because it’s hard to say exactly what the Stinger competes with.





The Chevrolet SS was the most obvious spoiler, but it’s out of production. It started at about $48,000, hit 60 mph in 4.7 seconds, ran a quarter mile in 13.2 seconds at 108.9 mph, stopped from 60 in 108 feet, pulled 0.94 g average on the skidpad, and posted a 24.7-second figure-eight lap at 0.78 g average.
You could match it up with the Dodge Charger even though that car is 10 inches longer with a wheelbase nearly 6 inches longer, and it’s 300 pounds heavier. An R/T with the 370-hp 5.7-liter V-8 is cheaper by five grand, but the Kia will dust it everywhere but the skidpad and figure eight—and even then, it’s close. You need the $41,000 R/T Scat Pack with the 485-hp 6.4-liter V-8 if you want to win. And the Kia has a far nicer interior.
No, Kia wants a piece of the Germans. After all, the Stinger GT has a hatchback like the smaller Audi A5 Sportback or BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe. (The more appropriately sized Audi A7 is $69,000, in case you were wondering.)





The Audi A5 is $43,000 to start, and your only option is the 252-hp 2.0-liter turbo-four. Based on results of the lighter A4, it’s slower, but like the Charger, it just pips the Kia on the skidpad and figure eight. But it’s substantially smaller.
The BMW is also smaller but can be had with a turbo I-6 with 320 hp for about $50,000. Based on our test of the lighter 340i sedan, the 440i Gran Coupe is slower than the Kia, full stop.
Mercedes-Benz doesn’t make a hatchback sedan (yet), but to smoke the Kia, you’d need to spring for the $54,000 C43 AMG, which clips the Kia in every test but is, again, a smaller package.
In other words, the Kia can hang with the big dogs and might have carved out a pretty sharp niche.
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Kia Stinger global availability set for Q4 2017


One of the most exciting cars that Kia has unveiled in recent memory is the Stinger with its sports sedan styling and powerful motors. Kia has announced that the Stinger will be available globally in Q4 2017. That means anytime in the next several months we could see the car roll into showrooms. Kia has given no firm launch date at this time.


The Kia Stinger can trace its lineage directly back to the 2011 Kia GT Concept and is to be the highest performance vehicles in the Kia line. Stinger will be offered with three different engines depending on the market where it’s sold. The most powerful is a 3.3L twin-turbo V6 engine with an available 2.0L turbo gas engine. European and Korean markets also have a 2.2L turbodiesel.


The Stinger is designed to look sporty and muscular with a long hood and short 830 mm front overhang and a long rear overhang of 1,095 mm. The car is 4,380 mm long and 1,860 mm wide making it longer and wider than many other sport sedans to give it a more spacious cabin and more cargo area.
Kia says that the Stinger has a 406L cargo capacity allowing it to hold two full-size suitcases or golf bags. The car has front air curtains, wheel arch grills, a smooth underbody, and integrated rear diffuser. GT models will get dark chrome highlights on the grille, side fender vents, and door mirror caps along with a gloss black diffuser, and LED headlights.
Brembo brakes also come on the GT version and 19-inch wheels. 2.0 TDI versions get dual twin exhaust. At the lowest seating position the driver is only 180mm above the ground for a performance driving position. There will be nine colors available. The 2.0L engine makes 255ps with the 3.3L twin-turbo V6 version making 370 ps and 510 nm of toque. Cars with that engine can reach 100 kph in 4.9 seconds and aiming for a top speed of 270 kph. Kia says pricing will be announced closer to launch. The production Stinger was unveiled back in January.
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Is Kia Plotting A Stinger V8 For The United States?



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The most powerful version of the Kia Stinger makes do with a 3.3-liter V6 engine that delivers 365hp and 376lb-ft (494Nm) of torque to the ground.

However, this could change in the United States, as the automaker might launch a V8-powered version of the sports sedan, CarAdvice reports, citing the brand's Australia General Manager of Media and Corporate Communications, Kevin Hepworth.

"I believe they're developing one", Hepworth answered when asked about a V8 Stinger. "There may be a possibility the US could pick it up."

The Kia official refused to give word to speculations, but it appears that a V8 version of the Stinger could use the 5.0-liter naturally aspirated engine that powers the Genesis G80 and G90. In the latter two, the unit produces 420hp and 383lb-ft (519Nm) of torque.

While a Kia Stinger V8 has a chance to happen, a true performance-oriented model is currently left hanging in the air, according to a recent report. This means that those waiting for the exciting-looking saloon to become sportier (think M or AMG style) will have to settle for the V8.
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Damn it looks big... I'm loving this thing. Still price dependent though.
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This is the war cry coming to a Kia stinger GT near you.
A Stinger GT fitted with the optional bi-modal exhaust was caught being put through final testing during the model’s local launch this week.
Press were allowed to punt the 3.3-litre twin-turbo V6 powered prototype on track.
MOTOR understands this Stinger's new roar has already been signed off. The delay in confirming it as an official product follows fine-tuning its fitment and software.
The system’s durability was put under the microscope roads surrounding Canberra, where watchful eyes monitored its mounting points over bumpy surfaces and in hard cornering.
The same testers were said to be refining the system’s switchover point. The louder setting doesn’t currently engage until 85 per cent throttle. Kia wants something closer to 60 per cent.
In Comfort mode Kia plans to have the exhaust remain quiet, emitting its burble on start-up only. While Sport mode grants full access to a throatier roar. Check out the above video for audio samples from inside and outside the cabin.
Designed by Lumens, a Melbourne based company with HSV on its resume, the system features from the rear axle pipe-join to the quad tips.
It works by routing gases away from the stock muffler canister into a more free-flowing resonated pipe.
We’re told the Stinger GT’s system will be ready for the vehicle’s sale launch on October 1. Price isn’t finalised but we understand buyers should expect to fork out somewhere around $2000 for the dealer-fitted accessory.
Kia’s hoping to introduce the same product on its 2.0-litre Stingers in future.



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The 2018 Kia Stinger will start at $32,795 for a rear-drive model equipped with a 255-horsepower turbo-4, the automaker announced Tuesday. The Stinger will go on sale in the U.S. in December.

The twin-turbo 3.3-liter V-6 version, which makes 365 hp, will cost $39,895 to start. All-wheel drive is a $2,200 option on all versions, but the rear-drive version’s limited-slip differential speaks to the Stinger’s intended audience.
All in, a V-6-powered, AWD Stinger could run just north of $51,000 although detailed pricing won't be available until November.

The first rear-drive sport sedan from Kia will be available in base, Premium, GT, GT1, and GT2 trim levels. Base and Premium versions will be powered by a turbo-4, while the rest of the lineup is V-6-only. GT versions are will use Kia’s first electronically adjustable adaptive damper setup to vary the suspension’s response and ride. Former BMW M engineering boss Albert Biermann helped tune the chassis in Germany, at the automaker's newly minted facility at the Nuerburgring.

According to Kia, V-6 equipped Stingers will sprint up to 60 mph in less than 5 seconds, and will reach a top speed of 167 mph. An 8-speed automatic with paddle shifters is standard across all models. It's shared with other models including the Kia K900.

Kia’s first foray into performance car territory will undercut traditional European and American rivals. The base price is significantly lower than competitors from Cadillac and BMW, which start at roughly $3,000 more for a base ATS or 3-Series with a turbo-4 engine.

If the price for the Kia Stinger wasn’t a shot across performance automakers’ noses, then the following should be a shot up them: Kia may be developing a V-8 version of the sedan.
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The Hatch-Tacular 2018 Kia Stinger Will Start At $32,795: Report [UPDATED WITH OFFICIAL FIGURES]






The sporty Korean sedan with a hatch that came along and stole our hearts now has a price tag.
(Update: A Kia spokesperson responded with the 2018 Kia Stinger’s official pricing:
  • $31,900 for base Stinger 2.0T
  • $37,000 for Stinger Premium 2.0T
  • $39,000 for GT 3.3 T
  • $43,500 for GT1 3.3T
  • $49,500 for GT2 3.3 T
  • AWD $2,200 for all models
  • Destination $895
The person noted that these are estimates and could change before the car goes on sale in December.)












The base-model Stinger, powered by a 255-horsepower turbocharged four-cylinder engine will cost $32,795 right off the bat. The 3.3-liter twin-turbocharged V6 rear-driven version, with 365 HP, will start at $39,895. An additional all-wheel-drive option is available for $2,200.
And a fully loaded AWD Stinger could allegedly set you back about $51,000. All these figures are courtesy of The Car Connection. We have reached out to Kia ourselves to independently verify these figures and will update if we hear back.
So! First impressions: The price is a liiiiiittle high for a Kia, but when you consider what you’re getting, then it seems way more justified. For example, a BMW 340i (yes, I just went there) with 320 HP (notice: less!) already costs nearly $10,000 more than the RWD V6 Stinger. The one we tested in 2016 came out to be $58,420, mostly because of crap like a Track Handling Package.






Brand snobbery aside, though, I truly consider this a good bang-for-your-buck option. And how many other sedans have a hatch?
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