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Trump never admits to sexual assault. If a woman was coming in to him, he's just making his move. That tape is so non-specific, yet the world takes it as some kind of admission of a sexual assault.
Forget reps vs dems.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Remember when no one let that go and finally got the truth?

Funny how Trump supporters want everyone to drop it, knowing full well if ther pressed the issue as hard as they did with Clinton and ONE woman, they'll find out pretty fast what a scumbag Trump is with multiple.
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Welp, Roy Moore is an asshole for many reasons... but the allegations against him just keep getting shakier.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...candidate.html

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Also it appears my asshole Representative whom I did not vote for, resigned for impending harassment claims. Fuck congress people.

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At least now we know how to get people out of politics and any other job. Accuse them of something they did a decade ago and then see what happens.
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Welp, Roy Moore is an asshole for many reasons... but an allegation against him just got more complicated.
fixed for you.

don't be that guy... this is one of multiple allegations and whatever this woman did or didn't do to an inscription, there are still many people who have confirmed similar allegations against him and this doesn't undermine those.
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At least now we know how to get people out of politics and any other job. Accuse them of something they did a decade ago and then see what happens.

What exactly do you mean by that?
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Forget reps vs dems.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Remember when no one let that go and finally got the truth?

Funny how Trump supporters want everyone to drop it, knowing full well if ther pressed the issue as hard as they did with Clinton and ONE woman, they'll find out pretty fast what a scumbag Trump is with multiple.
Thing is, there hasn't been any evidence of him committing sexual assault. Just like Willy. That tape could have zero to do with sexual assault for all we know. Have you ever made out and proceeded to advance your hands and not been told to stop? And then gone further? It happens consenually, I'd wager to say on a fairly common basis.

It took an impeachment to get the truth out of Willy. They are not of equal standing, at least not at this point.
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It took an impeachment to get the truth out of Willy. They are not of equal standing, at least not at this point.
no they seem pretty much equal by your ruler. the "truth" that was 'gotten out' of Clinton is that he lied about a consensual relationship he had where exactly zero allegations of predatory behavior were made.

that leaves you with allegations of multiple women of a similar fact-pattern of sexual assault, including a few filed court cases that never came to a decision which were denied by the accused. seems like they're on exactly equal footing unless you want to give a nod to the Donald for volume and/or for bragging (I mean joking obviously) about staring at half-dressed underage girls under the pretense of teen beauty pageants...
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don't be that guy... this is one of multiple allegations and whatever this woman did or didn't do to an inscription, there are still many people who have confirmed similar allegations against him and this doesn't undermine those.
Many more unsubstantiated allegations. They ran with the fake one because it was the only one that might have had teeth. The others are just dating younger women, no force and no minors.
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Many more unsubstantiated allegations. They ran with the fake one because it was the only one that might have had teeth. The others are just dating younger women, no force and no minors.
facts are stubborn fucking things man...
she was #7 of 9 so they didn't run with her account first. she was not part of the initial story and instead held the all-too-standard Gloria Allred press conference about it after the fact.

Leigh Corfman was the first one mentioned and she was 14 when 32yo Roy picked her up at the courthouse so even by Alabama's fucked up standards she was a minor. nothing has come out that undermines her story that has been generally confirmed by her friends from the time

Wendy Miller was 14 when he allegedly started trying to pick her up at the mall before her mom shut it down.

I guess we should all just be happy that the Gadsden Mall didn't have a jungle gym in it or this could've gotten into Jared from Subway for Senate territory...
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facts are stubborn fucking things man...
she was #7 of 9 so they didn't run with her account first. she was not part of the initial story and instead held the all-too-standard Gloria Allred press conference about it after the fact. It's the only one they could conceivably fake to try and believable and got caught.

Leigh Corfman was the first one mentioned and she was 14 when 32yo Roy picked her up at the courthouse so even by Alabama's fucked up standards she was a minor. nothing has come out that undermines her story that has been generally confirmed by her friends from the time This is a BS story doesn't even pass the smell test, that's why they aren't persuing it.

Wendy Miller was 14 when he allegedly started trying to pick her up at the mall before her mom shut it down.

I guess we should all just be happy that the Gadsden Mall didn't have a jungle gym in it or this could've gotten into Jared from Subway for Senate territory...
If any of the other stories were close to being true Gloria would be all over them, that is what she does. The fact she isn't even trying to get involved with the others shows they don't have legs.
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Just wondering if this is a female thing...

Anyone else find it creepy how hard DIY is trying to defend this behavior? Just wondering...
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Just wondering why everyone is so silent about all the abusers while being so vocal about Trump and Moore who have not abused anyone just accusations.
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Just wondering why everyone is so silent about all the abusers while being so vocal about Trump and Moore who have not abused anyone just accusations.
Wait...YOUR fixation and obsession is OUR fault because we don't troll the same dark recesses that your mind inhabits?

You're an apologist, plain and simple.

Everyone should be afforded due process. Allegations are not the truth.

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Welp, Roy Moore is an asshole for many reasons... but the allegations against him just keep getting shakier.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...candidate.html
I'm unclear how this makes it shakier. It was obvious it was another person's handwriting.

I don't think they made the claim that the date and location was written by Moore...not sure who would have actually thought that was a single inscription. The 7s don't match and olde hickory house isn't in cursive.

Sounds to me like the conservative media is trying to spin something only folks who are desperately looking for a gotcha might actually see as an out.
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Anyone catch Moore speech? It was pretty good, but awkward given the allegations against him.
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By "good" you mean bat shit crazy talk for someone that should never ever have been allowed to hold any public office while espousing those beliefs? I'm not sure how to take it any other way.
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By "good" you mean bat shit crazy talk for someone that should never ever have been allowed to hold any public office while espousing those beliefs? I'm not sure how to take it any other way.
More or less, ya.

Even if he didn't have those "beliefs" it still doesn't make it any more wrong. What's wrong is wrong, religious or not.

The only reason I said good was because he had some valid points, putting aside his allegations.
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More or less, ya.

Even if he didn't have those "beliefs" it still doesn't make it any more wrong. What's wrong is wrong, religious or not.

The only reason I said good was because he had some valid points, putting aside his allegations.
Maybe we didn't hear the same speech...are you talking about his non-concession speech or is there a new one?
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Yes, the one he made last night.
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Yes, the one he made last night.
Interesting...I guess I didn't hear any valid points.
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I'm sorry, I was wrong. It was his campaign statement he made later that night.
His concession speech was of no interest.
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Just wondering if this is a female thing...

Anyone else find it creepy how hard DIY is trying to defend this behavior? Just wondering...
Ya, it's cringy at minimum.

...maybe it's my long hair talking, though.
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What about the speech Moore's friend gave where he basically bragged that he and Moore went to an underage brothel in Vietnam but Moore didn't fuck any of the kids?
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What about the speech Moore's friend gave where he basically bragged that he and Moore went to an underage brothel in Vietnam but Moore didn't fuck any of the kids?
Oddly enough, that one was used as a "positive" indication of what a moral and upstanding man he was.

I believe the man will commit suicide soon, though to be honest, with the support he still garnered, his career may just be beginning.
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