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Unread 2016-07-05, 09:46 PM   #176
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Can a mod move all the posts from the other thread to here?

That thread is actually about trump and a fake scandal the left is trying to make a big deal about. This one is for the criminal acts that will continue to go unpunished for someone with the last name Clinton.
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Think there's anything to this?
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Damn. Wow.... I can't say I trust it 100%, but sure seems legit.
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Nothing would surprise me anymore.
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Some scary fucking reading right there.
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I just can't understand why people think she's not honest...

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I just can't understand why people think she's not honest...
One of the many reasons she hasn't held a press conference since December 4, 2015. Hard to get caught in a lie if you never say anything.

Could you imagine the shit storm if Trump or any other candidate refused to hold a press conference for 7 months?
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Wow. I hope Trump makes her look completely ridiculous in the debates, but I have a feeling the media moderators are going to do their best to shield her from a lot.
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Congress is grilling Comey right now.


They are going to go after her for lying under oath to congress.


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You all watching this? Mr. Gowdy fucking laid it all out with straight talk. Claiming no evidence of intent yet the hearing in front of congress with now established lies shows evidence of intent and guilty conscience which should have been enough to use as such.

God damn I can't stand Hillary.
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You all watching this? Mr. Gowdy fucking laid it all out with straight talk. Claiming no evidence of intent yet the hearing in front of congress with now established lies shows evidence of intent and guilty conscience which should have been enough to use as such.

God damn I can't stand Hillary.
It just shows how seperate "they" are from "us" .

They live in their own world.
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All the democrats can say is the GOP is on a witch hunt, the FBI did their job, thank you for being here, let me suck your dick, thanks and have a nice day.

We're so fucked.
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All the democrats can say is the GOP is on a witch hunt, the FBI did their job, thank you for being here, let me suck your dick, thanks and have a nice day.

We're so fucked.
lol. Don't forget throwing anti-Trump jabs by bringing in information that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.


I was waiting for the "well the other SoS did it too" argument. Looks like we got there.

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So will these congressional hearings achieve anything or will it just be more of the same lack of any results?
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So will these congressional hearings achieve anything or will it just be more of the same lack of any results?
Their minds are already made up...Comey is doing his best to convince everyone that this couldn't have ended up with charges, but it's clear as fucking day to me that she Lied, Withheld/removed evidence. I don't see how he came to the conclusion he did and he's being suspiciously political in his responses, not wanting to say that these facts would disqualify someone from a job, that she lied, that they didn't review her testimony to congress (WHAT?!)....it's not just fishy, it fucking wreaks of corruption.
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Their minds are already made up...Comey is doing his best to convince everyone that this couldn't have ended up with charges, but it's clear as fucking day to me that she Lied, Withheld/removed evidence. I don't see how he came to the conclusion he did and he's being suspiciously political in his responses, not wanting to say that these facts would disqualify someone from a job, that she lied, that they didn't review her testimony to congress (WHAT?!)....it's not just fishy, it fucking wreaks of corruption.
Agreed, but with that said will it change the outcome on anything happening to HRC?
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Agreed, but with that said will it change the outcome on anything happening to HRC?
Her die hard supporters (Forcefed, looking at you buddy) won't give a flying fuck and still say she's got experience!!

If this is what experience brings, count me out. Fuck, I'm to the point now where I might actually think Trump is the lesser evil.
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Her die hard supporters (Forcefed, looking at you buddy) won't give a flying fuck and still say she's got experience!!

If this is what experience brings, count me out. Fuck, I'm to the point now where I might actually think Trump is the lesser evil.
So aside from swaying public opinion which could cost her the presidency, these hearings won't bring anything else?
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So aside from swaying public opinion which could cost her the presidency, these hearings won't bring anything else?
I don't see anything else...Ryan's calling for removing security clearance but not sure that's going to happen and is anything more than a publicity stunt.
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I don't see anything else...Ryan's calling for removing security clearance but not sure that's going to happen and is anything more than a publicity stunt.
I will be curious what percentage of the dems this will sway. I would think that the GOP has already made up their minds.
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What about lying to Congress under oath? Comey clearly stated that she did send or received classified information. Clinton stated repeatedly under oath that she did not receive classified information.

How is there no case here?
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Her die hard supporters (Forcefed, looking at you buddy) won't give a flying fuck and still say she's got experience!!

If this is what experience brings, count me out. Fuck, I'm to the point now where I might actually think Trump is the lesser evil.
Not a die hard supporter. Her political agenda simply aligns best with my views out of the entire 2016 field, Bernie included. If Bernie pushed for the same things, I would've much rather seen him get the nod. He didn't though.

I feel like I'm the only person that is judging the candidates on their policy instead of their personality. I don't dislike Trump because of his antics, I dislike Trump because his policy positions scare the crap out of me as does his threats to create a trade war because I don't want the prices of things I need to survive to go through the roof. Or my stocks tanking.

With that said, reaching back to that 4chan chat, to be honest, that person has no credibility, nothing said matches up with what has transpired and everything said could be found in any other conspiracy theory blog.

Straight from Comey's mouth, which none of you give any credibility to anyway, is that the classified emails she sent were not appropriately marked.

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Comey said they were not, that they should have had banners and headers indicating classified material inside.

Cartwright asked if Hillary Clinton, knowing the manual, would have likely assumed an email did not have classified information if there were no banner.

“That would be a reasonable inference,” Comey said.

The classified markings point will likely be one of the biggest takeaways from the hearing.
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Straight from Comey's mouth, which none of you give any credibility to anyway, is that the classified emails she sent were not appropriately marked.

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Comey said they were not, that they should have had banners and headers indicating classified material inside.

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“That would be a reasonable inference,” Comey said.

The classified markings point will likely be one of the biggest takeaways from the hearing.
Incompetence? That's your justification here? Comey has given a good explanation as to why he believes criminal charges should not be brought forward, but at the end of the day, black and white, she did send/received classified information on an unauthorized server. Period. Comey said this much. Doesn't mean they can prosecute or send her to jail, but at a minimum you should lose your security clearance.
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What about lying to Congress under oath? Comey clearly stated that she did send or received classified information. Clinton stated repeatedly under oath that she did not receive classified information.

How is there no case here?

Comey said that congress had not requested that he look into that at this point, and the first person to interview him today stated the order would be over in a matter of hours.
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Incompetence? That's your justification here? Comey has given a good explanation as to why he believes criminal charges should not be brought forward, but at the end of the day, black and white, she did send/received classified information on an unauthorized server. Period. Comey said this much. Doesn't mean they can prosecute or send her to jail, but at a minimum you should lose your security clearance.
They could try to prosecute her but transmitting classified information on unsecured lines is (sadly) common practice among many civilians of both parties. If you prosecute Clinton for it you open the door to Rice, Powell and anyone that's picked up the phone to have a more efficient conversation when gov't tech sucks (which it appears to do with some regularity).

Bills of Attainder are unconstitutional so going after Clinton when the gov't has let so many others walk isn't going to stand even a moderate amount of scrutiny.

for BuddyLee - no, most likely nothing with come from this but more bluster and more theatre/leaks from congressional committees that are going to try and drag the ever living fuck out of this. actual criminal charges/punishment aren't the point of this exercise for Congress. its political theatre to keep a negative line of attack open for a few more months. its the same reasoning behind investigating something that 7 other committees have investigated and all come to the same general conclusion about... they convened the longest Congressional investigation in history (longer than 9/11, Pearl Harbor, Watergate, etc) and found almost literally nothing new about that situation. its theatre and politics, not actual investigation so the potential for/the actual punishment doesn't really matter to them, its all about the show and creating headlines along the way.
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