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The first few paragraphs read more like something written by one of those "chemtrails" idiots.
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North Korea declares it has given approval for a nuclear attack on the United States


  • North Korean army says it has 'final approval' for nuclear attack
  • United States to move anti-missile system to Guam
  • Two advanced missile destroyers moved closer to North Korea




THAAD missiles

The United States is sending its new, ultra-advanced THAAD missile defence system to Guam.













NORTH Korea says it has approved a nuclear attack on the United States in its latest threat as US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel warned Pyongyang to back down.



With the world on alert, experts say North Korea does potentially have the capability of hitting Australia with a missile - but only if they're very lucky.
University of NSW Professor of International Security Alan Dupont recently told defence correspondent Ian McPhedran that North Korea had only a "rudimentary" intercontinental ballistic missile system.
"The capability is pretty rudimentary and has more to do with pretence than substance," he said.
While a well-prepared missile may be capable of reaching the top-end of mainland Australia, it would not be able to hit a specific target - yet alone carry a nuclear warhead.









It also faced being shot down by the growing numbers of anti-missile systems being deployed around North Korea.
NORTH KOREA'S MISSILE THREAT TO AUSTRALIA `REAL'.






NUCLEAR ATTACK 'APPROVED'
North Korea's supreme military command said in a statement this morning that The White House and Pentagon had been notified that "reckless operations'' using nuclear weapons had been approved,
"The moment of explosion is approaching fast,'' the North Korean military said, warning that war could break out "today or tomorrow''.
The General Staff of the Korean People's Army said it was formally informing Washington that US threats would be "smashed by... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means".
It would launch "merciless" military strikes on the United States, involving the possible use of "cutting-edge" nuclear weapons.
"The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified...






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N Korea a 'real and clear danger' - US

North Korea's threats represent a 'real and clear danger' to the US, US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said.










"The US had better ponder over the prevailing grave situation.''
Analysts have said North Korea is not technologically capable of carrying out a strike on the US mainland but could target US troops stationed in South Korea or Japan.
The North Korean announcement came shortly after the US said it will deploy a ballistic missile defence system on its Pacific island of Guam as part of Washington's efforts to beef up its military presence in the region.
GALLERY: KOREAN TENSION INTENSIFIES.
THE THREAT THAT WON'T GO AWAY.
The land-based Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (THAAD) "will strengthen defence capabilities for American citizens in the US territory of Guam and US forces stationed there,'' the Pentagon said.

A South Korean soldier stands on a road linked to North Korea at a military check point in Paju near the demilitarized zone (DMZ) dividing the two Koreas.




The land-based missile defense system includes a truck-mounted launcher, tracking radar, interceptor missiles, and an integrated fire control system.
Hagel called on Wednesday on Pyongyang to back down from its "dangerous rhetoric.''
"We take those threats seriously. We have to take those threats seriously,'' Hagel said at the National Defence University in Washington.

The US had taken measured, reasonable steps in response to North Korea's recent moves, he said, noting the danger of being wrong about the seriousness of the threats.

The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain (DDG 56) sailing in the waters off the Korean Peninsula.




"It only takes being wrong once, and I don't want to be the secretary of defence who was wrong once,'' Hagel said.
"They have nuclear capacity now, they have missile delivery capacity now," Hagel said, calling Pyongyang's "bellicose dangerous rhetoric" problematic.
"We are doing everything we can, working with the Chinese and others to defuse that situation on the peninsula.
"I hope the North will ratchet its very dangerous rhetoric down."


The Sea-based, X-band Radar (SBX 1) transits the waters of Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The United States has deployed a sophisticated sea-based radar to the ocean east of Japan to track any North Korean ballistic missile launches.




JOINT INDUSTRIAL PLANT CLOSED OFF
North Korea on Wednesday blocked South Korean employees from entering an industrial complex operated jointly by the two countries, only allowing workers to leave, a Seoul official said.
In recent days, Pyongyang has threatened to close the Kaesong facility, which lies at the western end of the border inside its territory, amid heightened tension on the peninsula.
It notified Seoul that it would block entry to Kaesong for South Koreans, a spokesman for the South Korean Unification Ministry was quoted as saying by the Yonhap News Agency.
Workers were waiting on the south side of the checkpoint, a ministry spokeswoman said.
Workers would be allowed to leave normally, Pyongyang reportedly said. The Kaesong complex, 10km north of the border, opened in 2004 as part of reconciliation agreements between the once-warring neighbours.
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The park is one of isolated North Korea's only sources of hard currency, earning an estimated $US80 million ($A76.90 million) a year.
South Korean Defence Minister Kim Kwan Jin told legislators from the conservative ruling Saenuri Party that using military force to free hundreds of workers at the industrial area was a possibility if they were held hostage, Yonhap said.
Officials in Seoul said the likelihood of North Korea holding South Korean workers hostage was slim, according to the report.
North Korea last week cut the hotline with the South used to co-ordinate traffic movements in and out of Kaesong, after previously cutting another hotline between the countries' Red Cross offices on March 11.
GROWING INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNATION
Tensions have been rising since Pyongyang's third nuclear test in February led to a tightening of international sanctions against it.

A US Air Force F-22 stealth fighter jet takes off from the Osan US Air Base in Pyeongtaek.




The isolated communist regime has said its recent threats against the South and the US were in response to the sanctions and to recent US-South Korean military drills.
North Korea was the topic of a phone call on Wednesday between the defence chiefs of the US and China, North Korea's chief ally.
Hagel told Chinese Defence Minister Chang Wanquan that the two nations should co-operate to halt North Korea's "growing threat''.
"We've been trying to work with the North Koreans to try to persuade them it's not in their interest, and certainly not in the Korean peninsula interest... to pursue nuclear weapons,'' Hagel said.
"There is a pathway that is responsible, for the North to get on the path to peace, working with their neighbours... but they've got to be a responsible member of the world community."
Unease and irritation toward North Korea has risen internationally. Australia has condemned its "belligerent behaviour'' and said it was considering further sanctions against Pyongyang. Germany called for "utmost prudence'' from both sides and urged China to use its influence to help quell North Korean aggression.
Pyongyang said that it would restart a nuclear plant with the capacity to produce weapons-grade plutonium, after it shut down and partly demolished the facility in 2007 in return for promises of international aid.
NUCLEAR PROGRAM 'RESTARTED'

A United States research institute says North Korea has already begun construction at a shuttered plutonium reactor that it is vowing to restart and it could be back in operation sooner than expected.
Pyongyang announced its plans earlier this week, the latest in an almost daily string of threats toward the US and South Korea that have ensued since it faced international censure over its nuclear and missile tests.
The US-Korea Institute has analysed recent commercial satellite imagery of the Nyongbyon nuclear facility, where the reactor was shut down in 2007.
A cooling tower for the reactor was destroyed in 2008. The institute says rebuilding the tower would take six months, but a March 27 photo shows building work may have started for an alternative cooling system that could take just weeks.

Forces deployed on the Korean Peninsula.
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And now NK is moving a medium range delivery system to it's coast.

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North Korea kept tensions simmering around its borders Thursday, reportedly moving a medium-range missile to its east coast and continuing to put pressure on a joint industrial complex where hundreds of South Koreans work.
Wednesday, the United States announced it was sending ballistic missile defenses to Guam, a Western Pacific territory that's home to U.S. naval and air bases. North Korea has cited those bases among possible targets for missile attacks.

This comes amid the disclosure of what one U.S. official calls an Obama administration "playbook" of pre-scripted actions and responses to the last several weeks of North Korean rhetoric and provocations.

South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin told a parliamentary committee in Seoul that the North has moved a medium-range missile to its east coast for an imminent test firing or military drill. The missile doesn't appear to be aimed at the U.S. mainland, Kim said, according to the semi-official South Korean news agency Yonhap.The movement of the missile is "of concern, certainly to the U.S. military and to Japan," said Mark Fitzpatrick, director of the Non-Proliferation and Disarmament Program at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

He said he believed the missile in question was a Musudan, a weapon the North hasn't tested before that is based on a Soviet system with a range of about 2,400 kilometers (1,500 miles), far enough to reach Japan but not Guam.
The U.S. military, which has a string of bases and thousands of troops in Japan, has already moved two warships and a sea-based radar platform closer to the Korean Peninsula to monitor possible missile activity, U.S. defense officials said earlier this week.

"The concerning development is if they test a Musudan and it works, then they have a new proven system that could reach anywhere in Japan," Fitzpatrick said.
Another worry is that the missile's test flight could pass over Japan, straining nerves in an already jittery region.
North Korea isn't believed to have an operational missile that can reach the U.S. mainland at the moment.

The medium-range missile will probably take about two weeks to prepare, Fitzpatrick said, which means a potential launch could coincide with the April 15 anniversary of the the birth of Kim Il Sung, the founder of North Korea and grandfather of its current leader, Kim Jong Un.

Known as "the Day of the Sun," Kim Il Sung's birthday is a major public holiday in North Korea that is usually accompanied by large-scale parades.
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Haven't they only tested 1 or 2 of those rocket systems and they all failed?
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Haven't they only tested 1 or 2 of those rocket systems and they all failed?
They did get a satellite into orbit successfully if I am not mistaken.

As for weapon launches I do believe you are correct. However that doesn't mean there isn't something going on inside NK that we don't know about. To assume our intelligence to be infalable would be naive.

They are making very dangerous threats and moving pieces around on the chess board to to try and make it appear that they are willing to back up those threats.

IMO I don't believe we should do anything pre-emptively. However if they do launch any sort of attack I feel we should bring the full might of the conventional, American military to bear on NK.

I stress the conventional part because I do not support using nuclear weapons against NK even if he launches one at us.
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Per reports we are putting defensive measures in place and moving ships, so let's hope history repeats itself and they fail or decide it's a really bad idea.
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I don't think there's any way that we go nuclear on NK, no matter what they do.
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They did get a satellite into orbit successfully if I am not mistaken.

As for weapon launches I do believe you are correct. However that doesn't mean there isn't something going on inside NK that we don't know about. To assume our intelligence to be infalable would be naive.

They are making very dangerous threats and moving pieces around on the chess board to to try and make it appear that they are willing to back up those threats.

IMO I don't believe we should do anything pre-emptively. However if they do launch any sort of attack I feel we should bring the full might of the conventional, American military to bear on NK.

I stress the conventional part because I do not support using nuclear weapons against NK even if he launches one at us.
I thought they launched a satellite into orbit but it was broken once it arrived?
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It's really piss or get off the pot time for NK. You can't really threaten any higher than "We've approved a nuclear strike on your country."

Jon Stewart made a good point on his show the other night. If he's doing this all to boost his image, and outside television isn't allowed into the country, why doesn't he just make up a story and continue brainwashing them? Why even involve other countries?
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That may be, however the delivery method worked.
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From CNBC’s Twitter account, minutes ago: “BREAKING: North Korea army says it has final approval for nuclear attack on U.S. – DJ.” That, as they say, isn’t good.



Does, however, the ‘final approval’ in fact constitute a real threat? Given the level of hubbub bouncing around on Twitter concerning North Korean missile technology, I took a quick look around at publicly available information and have come to the following conclusion: Unless the United States is quite confused about the state of the DRPK’s ability to aim and fire rockets, we’re just fine.



Except for the Western portion of Alaska. At the furthest edge of North Korea’s longest-ranged rocket, part of Alaska is, in theory, in a landing zone for the Taepodong-2 ballistic missile, which has an estimated range of 6,000 kilometers.



That said, two caveats: the only time North Korea has attempted to fire a Taepodong-2 – back in 2006 – it didn’t go so well, as CNN reported [Formatting: TNW]:



North Korea test-fired a long-range missile and five shorter-range rockets early Wednesday, but the closely watched long-range test failed within a minute, U.S. officials said.



The tests began shortly after 3:30 a.m. local time (2:30 p.m. Tuesday ET) and lasted for about five hours. The Taepodong-2 missile, which some analysts believed capable of hitting the western United States, failed after about 40 seconds, U.S. officials said.



Right, then.



However, in a bit of bad news, North Korea did manage to shoot a rocket based on the Taepodong-2 into space late last year. It carried a satellite. However, things did quickly go south, as reported by the New York Times:



The North Korean satellite launched into space last week appears to be tumbling in orbit and is most likely dead, astronomers are reporting. The evident failure will not cause the spacecraft to fall quickly back to earth but seems to represent a major blow to the North’s portrayal of the launching as a complete triumph.



What does the range of the Taepodong-2 look like when superimposed onto the Earth? The Telegraph has us covered:
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Someone reported 10 B2's leaving Whiteman. Anyone actually see these or get a picture?

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I wonder if this whole thing is just a big distraction for something else. That thoughts been in the back of my head.
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That's a sign your a little to baked.

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Map: This is how far those North Korean missiles can actually reach




North Korea displayed what it said was the new KN-08 missile during a military parade in April 2012. (Pedro Ugarte/Getty)

North Korea has redeployed some of its missiles to the countryís eastern coast, a provocation and implicit warning that it just might carry through on some of its recent threats.
How far can those missiles actually reach? We canít say for sure because we donít know what kind of missiles they are. But there appear to be two most likely possibilities: either itís the Musudan missiles, as the South Korean military says, or itís the KN-08, as reported in the Japanese press, or its both. Fortunately, neither is particularly scary for the United States.
First off, hereís a map showing how far North Koreaís various missile systems can reach. The outermost green circle indicates the range of the Musudan: It includes Japan and South Korea but not Guam or Hawaii and certainly not the U.S. mainland.

The Musudan, though tested, is not thought to be particularly accurate. Still, it could cause some terrible mayhem in South Korea or even Japan if it were launched.
What about the range of the KN-08? Well, hereís the thing about that: It sure looks like an intercontinental ballistic missile, and North Korea claims it can reach about 6,000 miles, which puts Los Angeles in range, except that no one knows if it works because itís never been tested. And that means it probably canít hit squat at long range, if it can even take off.
New ICBM models arenít like iPhones; you donít just take them out of the box and expect them to function properly. They have to be rigorously, painstakingly tested. Markus Schiller, an expert in the North Korean military, told Global Security Newswire that it was ďtotally impossibleĒ for the KN-08 to be operational without tests. Even countries that have successfully built and launched ICMBs before, which North Korea has not, wouldnít expect a new model to work perfectly on the first try. The KN-08 was just unveiled last April in a military parade in Pyongyang and has never been test-launched. Analysts arenít even sure that itís real.
The most bullish analysis of the KN-08′s potential threat that Iíve seen this week, published in the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun, speculated that North Korea had only moved them to the coast so that, in the event of a test launch, they would be less likely to fall onto North Korean soil.
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A North Korean soldier looks through binoculars at the truce village of Panmunjom in the demilitarized zone (DMZ) dividing the two Koreas on April 4, 2013





U.S. scripts North Korea 'playbook'



The Obama administration established a "playbook" of pre-scripted actions and responses to the last several weeks of North Korean rhetoric and provocations, an administration official said Thursday.
The plan, the official explained, basically details "if the adversary does this, we do this, we say this."
The scripted actions included an increased show of U.S. military force - such as the flying of B-2 bombers - during the annual U.S.-South Korea military exercise, the Foal Eagle.
"Eyebrows started to go up when it was clear Foal Eagle was going to be protected from the budget cuts of sequestration," the official said, referring to the forced federal spending cuts that went into effect in March.

The playbook planning actually began under former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, but was picked up and supported strongly by now-Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, the official said.
Details of the playbook were first reported by the Wall Street Journal. The administration official declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the situation.
Some moves not scripted
At the same time, some of the U.S. military's reactions to Pyongyang's saber-rattling were not part of the playbook planning.
Instead, they arose from concerns about what North Korea has planned as the U.S.-South Korean exercise comes to an end, the administration official said.
Those moves include the deployment of ballistic missile defenses closer to North Korea, and a land based missile-intercept system to Guam.
Those actions were ordered in recent days when U.S. intelligence began to gather information that North Korea might be planning additional missile launches.
South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin told a parliamentary committee in Seoul Thursday that the North has moved a medium-range missile to its east coast for an imminent test firing or military drill. The missile doesn't appear to be aimed at the U.S. mainland, Kim said, according to the semi-official South Korean news agency Yonhap.
The movement of the missile is "of concern, certainly to the U.S. military and to Japan," said Mark Fitzpatrick, director of the Non-Proliferation and Disarmament Program at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.
He said he believed the missile in question was a Musudan, a weapon the North hasn't tested before that is based on a Soviet system with a range of about 2,400 kilometers (1,500 miles), far enough to reach Japan but not Guam.
A 'complicated, combustible situation'
U.S. officials have publicly stressed that the American military moves - including the sending of B-52 bombers and F-22 fighter jets, in addition to the B-2 bombers - were meant as much to assure the South Koreans that they have Washington's full support and not an excessive response to an unpredictable North.
"What I can tell you is that our response and the mix of assets we have applied to our responses is prudent, logical and measured," Pentagon spokesman George Little said earlier this week.
"We are in the midst right now of - of very important annual exercises that we regularly conduct with the South Koreans, and these exercises are about alliance assurance. They're first and foremost about showing the South Koreans and showing our other allies in the region, including the Japanese, that we are ready to defend them in the wake of threats."
When asked by CNN earlier this week about the "message" the United States was trying to send to North Korea, Little said it was the North Koreans who are being provocative.
"The North Koreans - even before those exercises started - had undertaken provocative steps, and they've conducted underground nuclear tests, they've conducted missile tests outside their international obligations. So they have a track record now over the past few months of provocative behavior," he said.
"We are in the business of ensuring our South Korean allies that we will help defend them in the face of threats," Little said in response. "So I don't think it's a contradiction. I think that North Koreans have engaged in certain actions and have said things that are provocative. We are looking for the temperature to be taken down on the Korean Peninsula."
Hagel hinted at risks in reacting to North Korea, calling the tensions a "complicated, combustible situation" that could "explode into a worse situation."
"It only takes being wrong once. And I don't want to be the secretary of defense who was wrong once. So we will continue to take these threats seriously. I hope the North will ratchet this very dangerous rhetoric down," Hagel said Wednesday.
"But they've got to be a responsible member of the world community. And you don't achieve that responsibility and peace and prosperity by making nuclear threats and taking very provocative actions."
CNN's Chris Lawrence contributed to this report
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SEOUL, April 4 | Thu Apr 4, 2013 5:15am EDT

(Reuters) - South Korea is to buy Taurus bunker-busting air-to-ground long range missiles for its F-15K strike fighters in a move to boost its strike power amid rising tensions with North Korea, its defence minister told a parliamentary committee on Thursday.
The decision to pick a European supplier is due to Washington's unwillingness to supply Seoul's first choice missile, the U.S. made JASSM, a person familiar with the plans later told Reuters and is a rare decision for a military that primarily picks U.S.-made equipment.
The decision comes as South Korea is getting ready to award a tender for 60 fighter jets, in a competition between Lockheed Martin's Corp's > F-35 stealth fighter, Boeing Co's F-15 Silent Eagle as well as Europe's Eurofighter, made by EADS.
"We intend to choose the Taurus missiles and integrate them," Kim Kwan-jin at a parliamentary meeting of the defences committee.
"U.S. missiles were one of the options we were considering, but because it is difficult for them to be sold to Korea, the only option we have is the Taurus," Kim added.
South Korea has expressed interest in the Lockheed Martin the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles (JASSMs) since 2008.
The missiles picked are made by TAURUS Systems GmbH, a partnership between a German subsidiary of the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company and Sweden's Saab Bofors Dynamics, making this the first time South Korea buys a strategic strike weapon from a non-U.S. supplier.
Local media reported that South Korea was looking to buy 200 of the missiles. The country's defence acquisition agency declined to comment on the number of missiles as the information was classified.
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North Korea's threats of war make Chinese neighbours nervous

Over the border from North Korea, residents of mountainous Kuandian county fear effects of conflict could spill over



North Korean and Chinese flags at a border crossing between the two countries. Photograph: Ng Han Guan/AP

Every time North Korea threatens a nuclear strike, Ge Weihan receives a frantic call from his mother. Although the 34-year-old filmmaker moved to Beijing years ago, his parents still live in a small Chinese village less than 25 miles (40km) from the insular nation.
"If a war ever actually breaks out, I'm very nervous about what it would do to my hometown," Ge said. "It's hard living right next to a country that seems willing to do anything."
Residents of Ge's home village in mountainous Kuandian county have become accustomed to an influx of Chinese troops every time tensions flare on the Korean peninsula Ė just in case things spin out of control. Yet this time the soldiers are so numerous, and media reports so shrill, that even the most hardened villagers are nervous.
It's no accident that China is the North Korea's most important ally, economic lifeline and primary source of humanitarian aid Ė a political meltdown in the country could send an unsustainable flood of refugees into border areas such as Kuandian and push a US-friendly unified Korea right up to China's doorstep.
Yet the vast majority of Chinese people consider North Korea just as strange and frightening as western observers. "It's just awkward," said Ge, who has lived among North Korean refugees. "It's an extremely awkward situation for the government, and that makes common people feel awkward as well."
Beijing rarely deviates in its response to North Korean tempers. Officials express concern Ė or "serious concern" as of Wednesday Ė and request that the international community "remain calm" and "exercise restraint".
Chinese news outlets have given North Korean declarations of war slightly less airtime than their western counterparts.
China's official newswire Xinhua published a dispatch from a Pyongyang-based correspondent on Thursday about how life in the city is business as usual. According to the report, 100,000 Pyongyong residents are preparing for North Korea's most important national holiday Ė Kim Il-sung's birthday, on 15 April Ė by planting trees throughout the city.
Prices in Pyongyang's "foreigner" supermarkets are stable, according to the report; schoolchildren are just beginning a new term. The city hosted an athletic competition on Thursday amid radio broadcasts warning residents to remain alert for provocative actions by American imperialists and their South Korean puppets.
Despite the state-sanctioned front of tranquillity, China's social media sites betray a widespread mix of curiosity, confusion, and unease. Some users on the popular microblogging site Sina Weibo wondered if this had all been an elaborate joke. "Actually lets hope that Kim does start a war Ė that he uses self-destruction to save the Korean people," said one user in a widely forwarded post.
Yet the most popular North Korea-related topic by far was a brief news report about a bottle of North Korean spring water discovered in a Chinese supermarket. Weibo users expressed shock at its £1 price tag Ė significantly higher than most domestic brands. In the subsequent debate about the cleanliness of North Korea's water supply, mentions of war were hard to find.
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Can't get baked in my field of work

Its sad having an open mind is grounds for being a pot head. Kinda ironic too that free thinkers get labeled that.
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Fidel Castro advises friend North Korea against war

  • * Castro says Cuba, North Korea will always be friends
  • * Calls Korean situation "incredible and absurd"





HAVANA, April 5 (Reuters) - Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro warned ally North Korea against war on Friday and described the current tensions on the Korean Peninsula as one of the "gravest risks" for nuclear holocaust since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
Saying he spoke as a friend, Castro wrote in Cuban state media that North Korea, led by 30-year-old Kim Jong-un, had shown the world its technical prowess and now it was time to remember its duties to others.
North Korea, which along with Cuba is one of the world's last communist countries, has been ratcheting up pressure by declaring war on neighbor South Korea and threatening to stage a nuclear strike on the United States.
Few observers believe it will actually attack anyone, but Castro has become an anti-nuclear advocate in recent years.
"The Democratic People's Republic of Korea was always friendly with Cuba, as Cuba always has been and will continue to be with her," Castro wrote, using an almost paternalistic tone.
"Now that it has demonstrated its technical and scientific advances, we remind it of its duties to other countries who have been great friends and that it would not be just to forget that such a war would affect in a special way more than 70 percent of the world's population," said the 86-year-old, who turned Cuba communist after taking power in a 1959 revolution.
Castro called the present situation on the Korean Peninsula "incredible and absurd," but said "it has to do with one of the gravest risks of nuclear war since the Crisis of October (Cuban Missile Crisis), 50 years ago."
He led Cuba through the October 1962 showdown when the United States and Soviet Union nearly went to war over the placement of Soviet nuclear missiles on Cuba, 90 miles (144 km) south of Florida.
At one point, Castro wrote a letter to Soviet leader Nikita Khruschev urging a nuclear attack on the United States, which he assumed was about to invade the Caribbean island.
Cooler heads prevailed as Khruschev and President John F. Kennedy reached an agreement in which the Soviet missiles were removed and the United States promised never to invade Cuba.
Castro ruled Cuba for 49 years before age and ill health forced him to step down in 2008.
He was succeeded as president by younger brother Raul Castro, 81, but remains a power behind the scenes and writes occasional columns for Cuban press.
The elder Castro also said the United States had the responsibility to prevent war, which he said if unleashed would make President Barack Obama look like "the most sinister person in the history of the United States." (Editing by Doina Chiacu)
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Sorry to break it to you, but paranoia =/= "an open mind".
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