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Kinda like trump becoming president would never happen, or a different type of never happen?
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I always believed Trump had a real shot at the presidency, so can't zing me there. I believe Trump would meet with KJU. But the two will never agree to each others terms to have a meeting.
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I always believed Trump had a real shot at the presidency, so can't zing me there. I believe Trump would meet with KJU. But the two will never agree to each others terms to have a meeting.
The thing is kim has no leverage. He's been sanctioned out and needs something or he wouldn't have agreed to meet.

Donald needs to squeeze him, imo. Make them scrap the nukes.
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They won't scrap anything they can't replace after Trump leaves office. I'm curious to see what comes of the meeting.
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President Donald Trump seems to think that he’s off to pick up North Korea’s stockpile of nuclear bombs. The problem is that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has said nothing of the sort. Kim thinks Trump is offering to recognize North Korea as a nuclear power. What could possibly go wrong at their upcoming meeting?
A visit between the two countries’ heads of state has been a North Korean goal for decades. It would be the ultimate symbol of recognition and, crucially for North Korea, legitimacy. In the waning months of his presidency, Bill Clinton seriously considered traveling to Pyongyang to put the finishing touches on a deal to limit North Korea’s missile programs. It didn’t work out.

Clinton of course did eventually visit North Korea in 2009, though it was to win the release of two journalists being held hostage by the regime. Footage from that trip, interestingly enough, was repurposed for the final installment of a curious series of propaganda films made by North Korea under the title “The Country I Saw.” According to the film’s narrative, Clinton traveled to North Korea because the U.S. respected North Korea’s nuclear weapons and missile programs. Produced at the end of former North Korean leader Kim Jong Il’s life, “The Country I Saw” was an early indication of how North Korean propaganda would embrace the bomb as a symbol of power and legitimacy.
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So when Trump agreed to a summit, he unwittingly cast himself in what may well be another installment of the propaganda series, one in which North Korea’s testing of both thermonuclear weapons and missiles that can strike the U.S. has compelled an American president to come to Kim Jong Un and recognize North Korea as a nuclear-armed power.
Trump may mock Kim as “Little Rocket Man,” but he has volunteered to give him a happy ending. Chuson Film Studios, the outfit behind “The Country I Saw,” must be blocking out scenes as we speak. And yet, North Korea has not offered to abandon its nuclear weapons — nor does it seem likely to do so. The whole process of how this visit has come about is so strange that it raises questions about whether it will really happen at all.
When Chosun Film Studios casts this drama, it is going to need a leading man to play Chung Eui-Yong, South Korea’s national security advisor. Chung led a delegation to the North to arrange a summit between the two Koreas, a series of meetings that ended in a dinner with Kim Jong Un and members of his family. According to Chung, Kim made a few polite references to denuclearization. But there was no offer to eliminate anything, just an offer to postpone missile and nuclear tests for a bit. There is no official statement, just Chung’s version of events. He wouldn’t be the first diplomat to improvise a few lines.
Chung returned to Seoul, offered a positive readout of his meetings in North Korea, then traveled to Washington to do the same. Once he got to the White House, according to press reports, Trump crashed the briefing, invited Chung to the Oval Office and boom!, we have a meeting. But throughout this whole drama, the North Koreans have been silent save for one email sent to The Washington Post that confirmed the invitation but said nothing about denuclearization. North Korea’s state media has said nothing. So, what is happening?
North Korea wants a summit, that’s for sure. But Trump’s staff appears uninformed or unwilling to break it to the president that the North Koreans have sought a visit from a sitting president of the U.S. since the Clinton administration. Nor does the staff seem to have told the president that North Korea has given no indication that it is prepared to abandon its nuclear and missile programs. This strikes me as rather dangerous. After all, what happens when Trump figures that out?
Some conservatives are worried that Trump will recognize North Korea as a nuclear-weapons state. They believe that an authoritarian North Korea will beguile Trump just as it did his erstwhile apprentice, American basketball player Dennis Rodman. They fear that Trump will be so overjoyed by the site of tens of thousands of North Koreans in a stadium holding placards that make up a picture of his face that he will, on the spot, simply recognize North Korea as a nuclear power with every right to its half of the Korean peninsula.
That wouldn’t be so bad. I have long argued that a nuclear-armed North Korea is a fact of life that we should accept, at least privately. That is the best outcome, however clumsily Trump does it. The U.S. needs to come to terms with a nuclear-armed North Korea, just as it did with China. The goal is that North Korea would then reform itself, just as China has. Of course, as we have seen in China, reform and opening has limits. But on the whole, the world would be far safer with this outcome.
What if that’s not how Trump reacts? What if Trump, having deluded himself into thinking he’s going to pick up Kim Jong Un’s bombs, suddenly decides that he’s been double-crossed? He could use the summit outcome to discredit diplomacy and open the pathway toward war. We have already seen U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham threaten Kim that if he were to “try to play him … it will be the end of you — and your regime.” John Bolton, the architect of the collapse of the 1994 nuclear agreement with North Korea, has said the visit will fail, show that diplomacy is hopeless and allow us to move to using military might. And the president himself has warned of the “ominous alternative” if his outreach should fail.
So why are so many people excited about such an unpredictable situation? Probably because we are all collectively terrified of where the situation was headed a few months ago and of what Trump might do if things sour again. In the meantime, South Koreans are working hard to flatter Trump, saying it is his pressure, not Kim’s weapons, that have brought about a possible summit. The White House staff seems unwilling to contradict them. Everyone is managing Trump, even as he becomes increasingly detached from the reality of the situation, tweeting that “Kim Jong Un talked about denuclearization.”
The most relevant film might not be North Korean propaganda at all, but perhaps “Sunset Boulevard” — Trump as Norma Desmond, the aging actor taking refuge in fantasy to escape a tragic reality she can’t accept. Either way, he’s ready for his close-up.
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North Korea’s state media on Wednesday rejected the idea that international sanctions or other pressure led to an easing of tensions on the Korean Peninsula, saying it is the result of the country’s strength and confidence.
“The great change in the North-South relations is not an accidental one but a noble fruition made thanks to (North Korea’s) proactive measure, warm compatriotism and will for defending peace,” the commentary said.
The peace initiative "is an expression of (North Korea's) self-confidence," it said.
The editorial commentary, which was carried by the Korean Central News Agency, was one of the few times the government-controlled media has made reference to a new easing of tensions on the Korean Peninsula.
The commentary did not make direct reference to proposed talks between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
The editorial was toughly worded but stopped well short of some of the vitriol of previous North Korea propaganda. It also seemed more directed at analysts and former officials than the White House or U.S. government.

The commentary aims to counter a narrative in the West that North Korea was pressured into agreeing to talks, said Michael Madden, an analyst at the U.S.-Korea Institute at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.
“Such rubbish as ‘result of sanctions and pressure’ … spread by the hostile forces is just as meaningless as a dog barking at the moon,” the commentary said.
“It is really an expression of small-mindedness for the riff-raffs to spoil the atmosphere and say this or that even before the parties concerned are given a chance to study the inner thoughts of the other side and are seated at a negotiating table,” the editorial said.
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People walk past a TV showing President Trump at a railway station in Seoul on August 9, 2017. Photo: JUNG YEON-JE/AFP/Getty Images

If President Donald Trump wants to resolve the nuclear standoff with North Korea by diplomatic means, he sure has a funny way of showing it.
If the upcoming meeting between Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un actually results in a deal to denuclearize the isolated rogue state and restore it as a member of the international community in relatively good standing, it will be perhaps the greatest diplomatic breakthrough in American diplomacy since the end of the Cold War. For all his many shortcomings, Trump would deserve praise for this, in a Nixon-in-China sort of way.
Unfortunately, since agreeing to meet with Kim earlier this month (likely without realizing what he was agreeing to), Trump has steadily undermined this goal with every foreign-policy-related word and deed. Hopes were already dim for such a breakthrough, but his two headline decisions announced on Thursday — $50 billion in tariffs on Chinese imports and the appointment of John Bolton as his new national security adviser — may have been the final nails in its coffin.
To start with the obvious, Bolton’s reputation as a neoconservative war hawk precedes him. An architect and unrepentant champion of the Iraq War, Bolton consistently prefers the use of force as the primary means of solving America’s problems around the world. In Bolton’s dictionary, cooperation, international law, and multilateralism are all dirty words. Hardly anyone who has carried the title of “diplomat” shares his utter contempt for diplomacy as a means of solving problems in the world.

From his last government perch in the George W. Bush administration, as ambassador to the United Nations (an institution he openly despises), Bolton could damage little beyond what remained of the United States’ reputation and international standing. As national security adviser to Trump, however, Bolton may be substantially more dangerous, as he is likely to encourage rather than temper Trump’s worst impulses.
Bolton is due to take office April 9, meaning he will have plenty of time at the president’s side to shape his thoughts and actions before the two consequential diplomatic events coming up in May: the meeting with Kim and Trump’s next opportunity to tear up the nuclear agreement with Iran. Bolton, of course, is a long-standing advocate of war with Iran, so the odds that Trump decides to pull out of that deal are even slimmer than they already were.
As for North Korea, Bolton was recently seen on television cheeringfor diplomacy to fail, so that the U.S. can proceed with the war he sees as inevitable and desirable. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed published last month, Bolton laid out his view of the legal case for a preventive strike on North Korea. A month of Bolton whispering in Trump’s ear that the North Koreans and the Chinese (and the Russians, and the Iranians, and the Arabs, etc.) are congenital liars who can’t be trusted outside the range of a Patriot missile, and these talks become less likely to actually happen and more likely to fail by design if they do. Of course, Trump should not take Kim at his word, but neither should he pass up the opportunity this diplomatic opening presents to avoid war and put North Korea on a path toward denuclearization.
If Bolton’s appointment pushes us one step closer to war with North Korea, so too does Trump’s decision to slap China with punitive tariffs. China is a key player in Northeast Asia and the only country that appears to hold any kind of sway over Pyongyang’s behavior. Enforcing any hypothetical agreement with North Korea to slow down, scale down, or dismantle its nuclear-weapons program is inconceivable without Chinese help.



China has a strong and sincere interest in resolving the Korean crisis peacefully. No country welcomes the prospect of a war next door, least of all one with a nuclear dimension. A war would devastate North Korea and send refugees pouring across the Chinese border by the thousands if not the millions, particularly if the North Korean state collapses (an outcome Bolton, incidentally, appears to favor).
In comments earlier this month, Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi expressed enthusiasm about the potential breakthrough between North and South Korea and encouraged the parties to pursue parallel dialogues on denuclearization and security normalization, addressing North Korea’s legitimate security concerns as well as those of South Korea, the rest of the region, and the U.S.

China’s strategic interests in the Korean peninsula are unchanged by the Trump administration’s trade policy, but it’s hard to see Beijing being eager to help shepherd the best possible outcome for the U.S. and its allies when we are actively engaged in a trade war. Whether we like it or not, China is a major global power just like the U.S. and has lots of options for making things difficult for Washington if it so chooses, from blocking our initiatives in the U.N. Security Council to building new frameworks for international trade in which the U.S. is not a leader or even a participant.
An administration less fixated on zero-sum fantasies of foreign trade and international relations might take the opposite tack and make a deal whereby China quietly ends some of its unfair trade practices in exchange for the U.S. agreeing to put all parties’ security concerns on the table in the Korea talks, not just those of our side. At the very least, a government with a less one-sided worldview might have the sensibility to treat China like a formidable rival and potential partner worthy of respect, rather than a misbehaving child that can be easily pushed around.
Instead, the Trump administration is antagonizing China at a moment when we could really use its cooperation in solving the world’s most pressing security problem, while welcoming an adviser who sees a catastrophic war as the only viable solution to that problem. Just as Trump was beginning to steer the U.S. away from its collision course with North Korea, he has taken a violent turn back toward it.
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Bulletproof, Slow and Full of Wine: Kim Jong-un’s Mystery Train





HONG KONG — A train, nearly as mysterious as its principal passenger, pulled into Beijing’s central train station Monday night, fueling speculation that Kim Jong-un, North Korea’s leader, had arrived in the capital for secret talks with his Chinese counterpart.

The train spotted in Beijing — 21 cars painted drab green, their windows tinted to obscure the identities of those on board — bore the hallmarks of the bulletproof private transports preferred by the mistrustful leaders of North Korea.

Both Mr. Kim’s father and grandfather, the country’s former leaders, traveled in similar style on rare foreign trips, stoking decades of intrigue and interest about the trains.

While much about Monday’s journey remains a mystery, here is what we know about the train:

More powerful than a speeding bullet, but much slower

Much of what is known about the train comes from intelligence reports, recollections of officials permitted to travel on board in previous eras and rare state news media footage.
There are believed to be at least 90 high-security carriages at the leader’s disposal, according to a 2009 South Korea news report that relied on classified information. According to the report, written during the era of Mr. Kim’s father, Kim Jong-il, three trains operate each time the leader travels: an advance security train, the leader’s train and a third carrying additional bodyguards and supplies.
Each of the carriages is bulletproof, making them thousands of pounds heavier than average. That additional weight translates to a slow ride. The trains are estimated to reach a maximum speed of just 37 miles per hour.
In Kim Jong-il’s time, according to the 2009 report, 100 security officers traveled in the advance train, searching stations for bombs and other threats and testing the safety of the track. Additionally, military helicopters and airplanes would fly overhead to provide more security.
Twenty train stations have been built across North Korea just for the leader’s personal use, according to the report.
All the comforts of home
North Korea’s state news media has occasionally covered the leaders from inside the train, offering a rare glimpse at some of the many specialized cars.
In 2015, Kim Jong-un was seen seated at a long white table in what appeared to be a conference room. In a similar video from 2011, his father, Kim Jong-il, is seen holding court in the same venue. In the older video, a flat screen television is clearly visible, and in the more recent one a laptop computer is seen.
In footage of the elder Mr. Kim’s trips, the leader is seen in an audience car with plush seats, leading a meeting in a dining car and attending a banquet in a car paneled in dark wood. In that footage, Mr. Kim is seated at a table filled with food as entertainers perform in tuxedos and evening gowns.
The former leader’s office car, including a desk and computer, is preserved as a museum exhibit at the Kumsusan Palace of the Sun, Kim Jong-il’s mausoleum in Pyongyang, the North Korean capital.

Lobster, wine and ‘lady conductors’
Kim Jong-il was rumored to have had a fear of flying and preferred to travel on his train, which was outfitted with modern communications technology and a large staff that catered to his whims.

“It was possible to order any dish of Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese and French cuisine,” wrote Konstantin Pulikovsky, a Russian official who traveled with the former leader during a 2011 trip through Russia.
© Yonhap/EPA, via Shutterstock Kim Jong-il, the former leader of North Korea, on board his train in 2006. He was rumored to have had a fear of flying and preferred to travel on his train. Mr. Kim insisted that live lobster and other fresh delicacies be delivered to the train as it crossed Siberia on trips to Russia. Cases of Bordeaux and Burgundy wines were flown in from Paris, Mr. Pulikovsky recounted in his memoir of the trip, “Orient Express.”
When bored, Mr. Kim relied on a group of female entertainers known as lady conductors to serenade him in Korean and Russian.
It is unknown what his son, Kim Jong-un, does for nourishment and entertainment while on board, but the younger Mr. Kim’s appetite is known to rival his father’s. He reportedly prefers Swiss cheese, Cristal Champagne and Hennessy cognac.
Tragedies on the tracks
The train has been at the center of several events in modern North Korean history.
More than 3,000 people were killed in Ryongchon, near the Chinese border, in April 2004, when trains laden with combustible material exploded because of a collision or an electrical malfunction.
There were initial rumors that the explosion was part of an attempt on Kim Jong-il’s life because the leader’s train had passed through the town hours earlier.
According to the state news media, he would later die on board his train after a heart attack in December 2011.
The arrival of the train in Beijing on Monday led to speculation that his son Kim Jong-un was meeting with Chinese officials to prepare for planned peace talks with South Korea and the United States.
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North Korea Agrees to Inter-Korean Talks Next Week: Seoul




North Korean People's Army soldiers stand guard at the truce village of Panmunjom in the Demilitarized Zone between North and South Korea. (AFP photo/Ed Jones)

North Korea on Saturday agreed to hold high-level talks with Seoul next week to discuss logistics for a rare inter-Korean summit, the South's Unification Ministry said, as a diplomatic thaw on the peninsula gathers pace.
The two sides will each send a three-member delegation to the border truce village of Panmunjom on Thursday for talks aimed at paving the way for a summit due in late April, it said.

South Korea on Wednesday had proposed holding high-level talks with the North to discuss details including the summit's dates and agenda.
The talks will take place at the Unification Pavilion building on the northern side of Panmunjom, which sits on the border, with Seoul's delegation led by Unification Minister Cho Myoung-gyon and his counterpart Ri Son Gwon heading Pyongyang's.
The decision by President Moon Jae-in and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to meet came amid a rapid rapprochement kicked off with the recent Winter Olympics in the South.
The United States and South Korea announced Tuesday that their annual joint military drills would go ahead next month, but the main exercise will be shortened by a month. The exercises have caused tensions for years, with Pyongyang condemning them as preparations for an invasion of the North.
The inter-Korean summit is due to be followed by a face-to-face meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and Kim by the end of May.
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Following a period of heightened tensions stoked by the North's nuclear and missile tests last year, a rapid rapprochement has been underway on the Korean peninsula.
The North on Wednesday broke its silence on the diplomatic thaw with Washington and Seoul, with its official KCNA news agency saying Pyongyang was driving the peace initiative and rejecting suggestions that sanctions forced it to dialogue table.
As diplomats scurry to arrange the North-South talks as well as the proposed Trump-Kim meeting, the North's silence has raised concerns over its intentions.
North Korean state media have not yet directly mentioned the summits.
Analysts say the North is carefully watching to see how events -- including the U.S.-South Korea military drills -- play out before making them public to its people.
State media in the North have not reported any public activities by Kim since March 6, when they said he held talks with South Korean envoys and made a "satisfactory agreement" on the proposed inter-Korean summit.
On Friday, Rodong Sinmun, the official daily of the North's ruling Workers Party, attacked the U.S. for continued sanctions and pressure on Pyongyang despite diplomatic progress.
"The good atmosphere appearing on the Korean peninsula has been created by our aggressive efforts and initiatives. It has not been brought about by sanctions by the U.S. and its sycophants," the newspaper said.
"The United States has miscalculated. The stronger the U.S. pressure, the stronger the DPRK (North Korea).... If the U.S. fails to draw a lesson and continues acting recklessly, it would surely be in for a greater humiliation and defeat."
The commentary came as President Trump named John Bolton, a foreign policy hawk, as his new national security adviser.
Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, has championed preemptive strikes against North Korea and regime change in Iran.
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If President Trump actually meets Kim Jong-un in the next few months — an encounter that many American officials still doubt will come to pass — his challenge will be much larger than merely persuading North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons.
Mr. Trump must also get Pyongyang to give up the factories, reactors and nuclear-enrichment facilities that produce the nuclear fuel needed to build more weapons — even as new satellite evidence suggests that North Korea is expanding its production.




The satellite image above shows a new North Korean reactor that appears to be coming online now, after years of construction, according to analysts. It sits in the Yongbyon nuclear complex, where the North began its nuclear program in the 1960s. Today, the site boasts hundreds of buildings that lie along a loop of the Kuryong River and cover an area of more than three square miles.
North Korea insists the reactor is intended to produce electricity for civilian use. But the new reactor can also make plutonium, one of the main fuels used in nuclear arms. It can thus supplement the output of the aging, existing facilities at Yongbyon.


Making bomb fuel in reactors is seen as easier to do than perfecting missiles that can hurl nuclear arms around the globe. While experts clash over how soon the North will develop warheads that can survive the blistering heats of re-entry, they agree that the North has already mastered the art of using reactors to make plutonium.
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China says North Korea wants denuclearization, but Kim Jong Un's motives remain shrouded in mystery as Trump meeting approaches

  • North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met Chinese President Xi Jinping during a four-day unofficial visit.
  • China said the North promises to denuclearize the Korean peninsula. The North, on the other hand, didn't mention anything about that in its readout of the talks.
  • "The key question the world needs to ask is this: What does Kim Jong Un want for those nukes?" said Harry Kazianis, director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest.




The Trump administration has been thrown another curveball ahead of potential historic talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
After two days of speculation, China announced that the North Korean regime's reclusive leader traveled to Beijing for bilateral talks with President Xi Jinping. Kim made the international trip by train in what is believed to be his first known journey abroad since assuming power in 2011.
Following Kim's visit, China said its isolated neighbor reaffirmed promises to denuclearize the Korean peninsula and meet with Trump. The North, on the other hand, continued its public silence on both matters.



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People walk past a television screen showing a news broadcast, featuring North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un during a meeting with with China's president Xi Jinping, at Seoul Station in Seoul, South Korea, on Wednesday, March 28, 2018.

"Comparing the Chinese and North Korean readouts of the meeting, I'm struck once again by the absence of any mention of the nuclear issue in the North Korean version," Joshua Pollack, senior research associate at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, California, told CNBC.
"The Chinese version says that Kim Jong Un reaffirmed North Korea's commitment to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula," Pollack said. "The North Korean version conspicuously fails to confirm this or any of the rest of the Chinese account of the leaders' exchanges."
Reacting to the news, Trump tweeted Wednesday that "there is a good chance that Kim Jong Un will do what is right" and "Kim looks forward to meeting me."

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And if the North is willing to give up its nuclear weapons, the U.S. will most likely be tasked to give the reclusive state something big in return.
"The key question the world needs to ask is this: what does Kim Jong Un want for those nukes?" Harry Kazianis, director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest, told CNBC.
"What would Kim Jong Un demand from the United States and South Korea for giving up its nuclear weapons? Would they demand, for example, the ending of the U.S.-South Korea alliance and the removal of all U.S. forces from the Korean Peninsula? Could Kim demand America also denuclearize, as has been the case in the past?" Kazianis added.
"This is all just the beginning of what will be a historic few weeks in Asia. Either history will be made, or we will be back at the brink all over again," he said.


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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un shakes hands with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing, as he paid an unofficial visit to China, in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang March 28, 2018.

Lisa Collins, a fellow with the Korea Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, described Kim's meeting with Xi as an insurance policy.
"By repairing relations with China, Kim Jong Un was likely trying to ensure that he did not put all his eggs in one basket when it came to the U.S.-DPRK summit reportedly taking place in May," Collins said. "If summit talks with the United States failed over denuclearization, he [Kim] could fall back on the traditional relationship with China."
Collins also noted that North may try to take advantage of worsening relations between the U.S. and China.
"President Trump's move to impose steel tariffs and threats to start a trade war will put significant strain on the U.S.-China relationship," she said. "North Korea may have seen this time as an opportunity to draw closer to China and convince Beijing that siding with the U.S., particularly on sanctions, does not ultimately yield benefits for Chinese national interests."
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that Trump still plans to meet with Kim but did not elaborate on any details of the proposed summit.
The summit, which is slated to happen by the end of May, would mark the first time a sitting U.S. president meets with a leader from the reclusive regime.

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Call me paranoid but I think Russia, North Korea and China are making some serious moves and Trump is the perfect oblivious baffoon to fall for their trap. They'll use his arrogance, compulsive need for praise and admiration and his need to be seen as a stong leader against him to blind him to what's really happening. The fact that Trump thinks Putin is his friend and his aggressive reluctance to put sanctions on Russia and Trump accepting a meeting with Kim without seeking counsel first just shows this tactic at work. And anyone who thinks that North Korea really wants to talk to Trump with full intention of getting rid of their nukes, well I have a bridge to sell you. Putin knows Trump is a fraud and he knows an opportunity when he sees one, especially with how dividea we are as a country right now.
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Serious moves to accomplish what goal?
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Pro tip- never go down the rabbit hole...
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Call me paranoid but I think Russia, North Korea and China are making some serious moves and Trump is the perfect oblivious baffoon to fall for their trap. They'll use his arrogance, compulsive need for praise and admiration and his need to be seen as a stong leader against him to blind him to what's really happening. The fact that Trump thinks Putin is his friend and his aggressive reluctance to put sanctions on Russia and Trump accepting a meeting with Kim without seeking counsel first just shows this tactic at work. And anyone who thinks that North Korea really wants to talk to Trump with full intention of getting rid of their nukes, well I have a bridge to sell you. Putin knows Trump is a fraud and he knows an opportunity when he sees one, especially with how dividea we are as a country right now.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/putin...destroy-the-us


Yea worrying about Russia and North Korea attacking us is foolish...
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So Putin spouted off during an election cycle, once this year and once in 2011?


You’re trying too hard, bro.
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You’re trying too hard, bro.
2011?

WHY DIDN'T TRUMP TAKE CARE OF THIS 7 YEARS AGO?

HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN IN BED WITH RUSSIA?
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Well Mueller is going back more than 10 years so i guess there is evidence Trump has been colluding that long.
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You’re trying too hard, bro.
Do you really think Russia doesn't want to be the dominant super power in the world?
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Do you really think Russia doesn't want to be the dominant super power in the world?


What does want have to do with the fact that neither of those countries are going to attack the US?
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