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Originally Posted by Ricerking13 View Post
B- It likely will increase the deficit. But your question was about possible hypocrisy because I favor one Rand Paul action and didn't lambaste him for the other... I clarified they aren't the same. Increasing spending to create a deficit is totally different than cutting taxes which creates a deficit. I realize they have similar end results ON THE DEFICIT... but you have to be able to see the difference in why one could support cutting taxes and not support increasing spending... regardless of the deficit reality. As I said, if you can't see that it's due to partisan blinders
you were proud of him for his speech, right? his speech was "ON THE DEFICIT" and how he hates that his side only cares about it when they are out of power. that's utter fucking hypocrisy because he voted to blow up the deficit (unless, like you, we're willing to pretend like we just can't tell if there will be an additional $1.5T-$2T in economic activity that results) less than two months ago. he is castigating his party for only caring about the deficit when it suits them as he stands there only caring about the deficit (based on his votes) when its not a tax cut... if anything he's even more of a hypocrite than the people he's grandstanding against and calling hypocrites because he's adding another layer to it.

and you're proud of him because you are the same kind of hypocrite he is... you give a shit about the deficit so long as its not a tax cut that puts money (even if its relative "crumbs") in your pocket.

you may not have "partisan" blinders on but your "self-interest" blinders seem just as strong.
C- If you think we're approaching the tax cuts the same from a political angle, then you don't have a clue how my brain works clearly and haven't been paying much attention. You are left and proud of it... I'm a moderate, that absolutely goes both ways on many issues. Your left-leaning blurs your vision to see the left angle on most things. Since I hate both sides, and review each and every discussion from the middle. My vision is not blurred like you.
I know we're not approaching them from the same political angle. I was pointing out that you accusing me of coming at the issue with blinders on is staggeringly hypocritical. yours may not be political in the sense of a party but they are there just the same. you're so "blinded" to the simple math that even smaller tax cuts (much less the outsized ones like the one that just passed) never have ever paid for themselves in economic activity that you want to pretend like we just can't say they will... except that its reality and we already know they are going to increase the deficit to a large degree. whereas someone without blinders would look at the course of human history, see that its never happened and say "well they certainly won't pay for themselves (aka they will add to the deficit) but I want them for my own self-interest so I'm willing to accept that"... but instead you've deluded yourself into thinking that this may be the first time in human history that they pay for themselves so you don't have to accept that they will be added to the deficit like every other tax cut (because spending is not cut to the same degree) and Rand Paul is hypocritical ass for his grandstanding.
Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that ”all men are created equal.” We now practically read it “all men are created equal, except negroes” When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read “all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.” When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocricy. - Lincoln
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